[amsat-bb] Re: HT supports full duplex satellite operation

2009-10-21 Thread Clint Bradford
My Japanese is poor ... from what I see, it reads ...

The handy machine whose APRS and GPS functional loading are enormous  
appears in 2010! With is.
As for design, the same as TH-D7 which is sold in the past.
If APRS, you mention GPS handy, presently the handy machine most it is  
VX-8 of popularity, but “it becomes the model of the efficiency which  
exceeds VX-8!”With is. Oh, it is the pleasure.


And, strictly confidential, it develops also 0 succession type, it is!  
With is. Whether it is 2011, ...
. You think that it can sell!
[kenutsudo], it may be able to expect future, is.

Has anyone spoken with Kenwood-US about this? If not, I'll call  
tomorrow 

Clint Bradford





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[amsat-bb] Re: HT supports full duplex satellite operation

2009-10-21 Thread myles landstein

Is that  your  usual way  of  of  asking  for info?

seems  a little strange  you assume  info  comes from that high

mostly i was googling  , I believe   tokyo ham fairs  few months ago
or something while  really looking for info onthe new  9100  
and noticed  it by accident

I noticed  a  picture and  paragraph on it,  i am sure if I found it   
anyone could



On Oct 21, 2009, at 12:45 AM, Clint Bradford wrote:

 ... I believe  Kenwood is going to  're offer '   a  newer
 version   of   their  recently disco'd   TH7 ht ...

 And your source at Kenwood's corporate offices for this info is ... ?

 Clint Braddford, K6LCS


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[amsat-bb] PIC sat tracker

2009-10-21 Thread Andrew Rich
Putting together a USB 16F877 rotator control A/D serial and LOGIC

Got a few options

Predict as the AZ/EL engine and perl scripts.

1. Completely autonomous - quite hard to do in a PIC
2. Use the A/D and just send data back to LINUX and get LINUX to turn relays on 
/ off via parra port
3. Send AZ and EL to the PIC, do a ASCII to BIN and then get the PIC to drive 
the rotators.
4. Use the A/D and send data to LINUX and then send back a serial command on 
what to do.

Cheers

Andrew VK4TEC

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[amsat-bb] Arrow 10W Duplexer Performance Measurements

2009-10-21 Thread Allan Saul
Quite a lot of guys are using the handy Arrow Model 10W
duplexer for the handheld 146/437 antenna and mine arrived here
today so I thought I would put it on the network analyser
and see how it performs.

From the Radio cable to the 2m antenna connector an Insertion Loss of 
0.75dB was measured with a rejection of 57dB at 70cm. The VSWR at 2m was
1.24:1

From the Radio cable to the 70cm antenna connector an Insertion Loss of
1.2dB was measured with an attenuation of 56dB on the 2m signal. The VSWR
at 70cm was 1.29:1

The VSWR on the 2m port was 1.21:1 and on the 70cm port was 1.20:1

For those guys wanting to look at the actual plots they can be found here
http://www.rfdesign.co.za/default.asp?pageID=785423593filePath=D:\SoftPage_V5\files\5645456\Download-Library\Amateur-Radio\ZS1LS\Mode-J-Filter

73's
Allan ZS1LS





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[amsat-bb] SATPC32 Problem Taken Care of

2009-10-21 Thread Randy
Never did get it to work properly in the program itself
However, someone off the list sent me a link to his own software ( very nice
software )
For controlling the rotor and it also ties into SATPC32, Orbitron, and NOVA.
( plus some others )
So all is well and its going great now..

Thanks for the replys..

Randy - N2CUA


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[amsat-bb] Satellite Pass Predictions

2009-10-21 Thread John Papay
There has been some discussion on how to determine
when a bird will be in view over an extended period
of time.  You really don't need a pocket computer
or laptop to carry around to do this.  Just simply
print out the pass predictions using SatPC32 sold by
AMSAT and written by DK1TB who has donated the program
to AMSAT.

There are two accessory programs included in SatPC32.
The first is called WinAOS and it will make predictions
for multiple birds of your choosing over a 10+ day period
of your choosing.  Print out the results and keep them in
your vehicle. You'll have AOS/LOS times and AOS/LOS azimuths
plus max elevation and visible time.  This is plenty of info
to allow you to work a bird with a handheld antenna.  Just
watch the time and move the antenna accordingly.

WinAos   QTH: -81.7/41.3   T#: 11616   Sat.: 5 [Standard]
  --
  Day Object   AOS (U) LOS Period maxEl   AZ
  --
  21.10.2009  VO-5200:18 00:2305   02  076 - 024
  21.10.2009  AO-0700:36 00:5721   39  187 - 338
  21.10.2009  AO-5100:41 00:4807   04  244 - 310
  21.10.2009  VO-5201:50 02:0212   39  147 - 355
  21.10.2009  AO-0702:37 02:4508   02  259 - 306
  21.10.2009  SO-5003:06 03:1408   05  140 - 066
  21.10.2009  VO-5203:27 03:3811   17  208 - 333
  21.10.2009  SO-5004:43 04:5714   57  201 - 037
  21.10.2009  AO-2706:02 06:0907   04  053 - 118
  21.10.2009  SO-5006:25 06:3813   21  251 - 026
  21.10.2009  AO-2707:39 07:5314   51  018 - 182

The other program that comes with SatPC32 is WinListen.  This
program will give you satellite visibility at various intervals
throughout the pass.  It has a two-observer feature which allows
you to enter two grids and find the mutual window on a particular
satellite.  Here's an example between Ohio and Scotland on AO-51
at 20 second intervals.

WinListen 8.0 [AO-51]  T#:11616  QTH1: -81.7/41.3  QTH2: -8.4/52.3
--
 Day  Time(U)   Az1 El1  Az2 El2   MA   Height  Lon/Lat   Orbit
--
21.10.2009   09:29:00   59   0  279   3   19.7711  314  50   27911
21.10.2009   09:29:20   61   1  277   2   20.5712  314  49   27911
21.10.2009   09:29:40   64   1  275   1   21.4712  313  48   27911
21.10.2009   09:30:00   67   1  272   1   22.2712  313  46   27911

I use this program to set up schedules when the likelihood of a window
is remote.

These two programs are selected under the Programs link in the
SatPC32 toolbar.

73,
John K8YSE


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[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Pass Predictions

2009-10-21 Thread w6zkh
Thanks John for the info.never had really looked at that before, as I've 
always used the Orbitron printout. Only thing on the SatPC32 printout is wish 
the print was abit bigger for us old guys, and abit darker, but otherwise it 
has good info..tnx again... 

\John\ 


- Original Message - 
From: John Papay j...@papays.com 
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:02:08 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Pass Predictions 

There has been some discussion on how to determine 
when a bird will be in view over an extended period 
of time. You really don't need a pocket computer 
or laptop to carry around to do this. Just simply 
print out the pass predictions using SatPC32 sold by 
AMSAT and written by DK1TB who has donated the program 
to AMSAT. 

There are two accessory programs included in SatPC32. 
The first is called WinAOS and it will make predictions 
for multiple birds of your choosing over a 10+ day period 
of your choosing. Print out the results and keep them in 
your vehicle. You'll have AOS/LOS times and AOS/LOS azimuths 
plus max elevation and visible time. This is plenty of info 
to allow you to work a bird with a handheld antenna. Just 
watch the time and move the antenna accordingly. 

WinAos QTH: -81.7/41.3 T#: 11616 Sat.: 5 [Standard] 
-- 
Day Object AOS (U) LOS Period maxEl AZ 
-- 
21.10.2009 VO-52 00:18 00:23 05 02 076 - 024 
21.10.2009 AO-07 00:36 00:57 21 39 187 - 338 
21.10.2009 AO-51 00:41 00:48 07 04 244 - 310 
21.10.2009 VO-52 01:50 02:02 12 39 147 - 355 
21.10.2009 AO-07 02:37 02:45 08 02 259 - 306 
21.10.2009 SO-50 03:06 03:14 08 05 140 - 066 
21.10.2009 VO-52 03:27 03:38 11 17 208 - 333 
21.10.2009 SO-50 04:43 04:57 14 57 201 - 037 
21.10.2009 AO-27 06:02 06:09 07 04 053 - 118 
21.10.2009 SO-50 06:25 06:38 13 21 251 - 026 
21.10.2009 AO-27 07:39 07:53 14 51 018 - 182 

The other program that comes with SatPC32 is WinListen. This 
program will give you satellite visibility at various intervals 
throughout the pass. It has a two-observer feature which allows 
you to enter two grids and find the mutual window on a particular 
satellite. Here's an example between Ohio and Scotland on AO-51 
at 20 second intervals. 

WinListen 8.0 [AO-51] T#:11616 QTH1: -81.7/41.3 QTH2: -8.4/52.3 
-- 
Day Time(U) Az1 El1 Az2 El2 MA Height Lon/Lat Orbit 
-- 
21.10.2009 09:29:00 59 0 279 3 19.7 711 314 50 27911 
21.10.2009 09:29:20 61 1 277 2 20.5 712 314 49 27911 
21.10.2009 09:29:40 64 1 275 1 21.4 712 313 48 27911 
21.10.2009 09:30:00 67 1 272 1 22.2 712 313 46 27911 

I use this program to set up schedules when the likelihood of a window 
is remote. 

These two programs are selected under the Programs link in the 
SatPC32 toolbar. 

73, 
John K8YSE 


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[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Pass Predictions

2009-10-21 Thread w6zkh
Thanks Erich for the info, and yes, that does help these old tired eyes... 
again, thanks.. 

John 

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From: Erich Eichmann erich.eichm...@t-online.de 
To: w6...@comcast.net, John Papay j...@papays.com 
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:49:04 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Pass Predictions 

The font and font size can be chosen in the WinAOS and WinListen setup menus 
for the screen and the printer. 
73s, Erich, DK1TB 

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To: John Papay j...@papays.com 
Cc: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:04 PM 
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Pass Predictions 


 Thanks John for the info.never had really looked at that before, as 
 I've always used the Orbitron printout. Only thing on the SatPC32 printout 
 is wish the print was abit bigger for us old guys, and abit darker, but 
 otherwise it has good info..tnx again... 
 
 \John\ 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: John Papay j...@papays.com 
 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:02:08 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Pass Predictions 
 
 There has been some discussion on how to determine 
 when a bird will be in view over an extended period 
 of time. You really don't need a pocket computer 
 or laptop to carry around to do this. Just simply 
 print out the pass predictions using SatPC32 sold by 
 AMSAT and written by DK1TB who has donated the program 
 to AMSAT. 
 
 There are two accessory programs included in SatPC32. 
 The first is called WinAOS and it will make predictions 
 for multiple birds of your choosing over a 10+ day period 
 of your choosing. Print out the results and keep them in 
 your vehicle. You'll have AOS/LOS times and AOS/LOS azimuths 
 plus max elevation and visible time. This is plenty of info 
 to allow you to work a bird with a handheld antenna. Just 
 watch the time and move the antenna accordingly. 
 
 WinAos QTH: -81.7/41.3 T#: 11616 Sat.: 5 [Standard] 
 -- 
 Day Object AOS (U) LOS Period maxEl AZ 
 -- 
 21.10.2009 VO-52 00:18 00:23 05 02 076 - 024 
 21.10.2009 AO-07 00:36 00:57 21 39 187 - 338 
 21.10.2009 AO-51 00:41 00:48 07 04 244 - 310 
 21.10.2009 VO-52 01:50 02:02 12 39 147 - 355 
 21.10.2009 AO-07 02:37 02:45 08 02 259 - 306 
 21.10.2009 SO-50 03:06 03:14 08 05 140 - 066 
 21.10.2009 VO-52 03:27 03:38 11 17 208 - 333 
 21.10.2009 SO-50 04:43 04:57 14 57 201 - 037 
 21.10.2009 AO-27 06:02 06:09 07 04 053 - 118 
 21.10.2009 SO-50 06:25 06:38 13 21 251 - 026 
 21.10.2009 AO-27 07:39 07:53 14 51 018 - 182 
 
 The other program that comes with SatPC32 is WinListen. This 
 program will give you satellite visibility at various intervals 
 throughout the pass. It has a two-observer feature which allows 
 you to enter two grids and find the mutual window on a particular 
 satellite. Here's an example between Ohio and Scotland on AO-51 
 at 20 second intervals. 
 
 WinListen 8.0 [AO-51] T#:11616 QTH1: -81.7/41.3 QTH2: -8.4/52.3 
 -- 
 Day Time(U) Az1 El1 Az2 El2 MA Height Lon/Lat Orbit 
 -- 
 21.10.2009 09:29:00 59 0 279 3 19.7 711 314 50 27911 
 21.10.2009 09:29:20 61 1 277 2 20.5 712 314 49 27911 
 21.10.2009 09:29:40 64 1 275 1 21.4 712 313 48 27911 
 21.10.2009 09:30:00 67 1 272 1 22.2 712 313 46 27911 
 
 I use this program to set up schedules when the likelihood of a window 
 is remote. 
 
 These two programs are selected under the Programs link in the 
 SatPC32 toolbar. 
 
 73, 
 John K8YSE 
 
 
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[amsat-bb] Postscript: Road Trip to FN56, FN57, FN66, FN67, etc.

2009-10-21 Thread Richard Crow

Hello All,

Looking back, the Road Trip to FN56, FN57, FN66, FN67, etc. was 
eminently successful. In the course of two days, I drove 1,119 miles 
from my Dad's home in Massachusetts to Maine and back: 429 miles up, 
261 miles around the back woods of northern Maine searching for 
better-than-average operating locations, and 429 miles back.

In the process, I activated every grid square north of Bangor, with the 
exception of FN45, plus I activated FN53 in southern Maine as well. Put 
another way, I worked 11 satellite passes to activate 7 rare grid 
squares in two days. In that time, I would estimate that I made over a 
hundred satellite contacts.

My appreciation goes out to all who participated.

If you're interested in the actual locations I worked from, it's 
summarized in the chart below in the order that I worked from them. The 
latitudes and longitudes were recorded on site from a Garmin GPS 
12XL, except as noted.

=

Actual Locations for Saturday, October 17th:

  #Lat  LonGridNearest Town
--  ---  ---    

  1  43.979N  69.978W  FN53   Topsham, ME

  2  45.596N  68.535W  FN55Medway, ME

  3  46.791N  68.040W  FN56   Caribou, ME

  4  47.006N  68.180W  FN57 Stockholm, ME

  5  46.854N  67.988W  FN66   Caribou, ME

=

Actual Locations for Sunday, October 18th:

  #Lat Lon GridNearest Town
--  ---  ---    

  6  47.132N  67.954W  FN67 Van Buren, ME

  7  47.132N  67.954W  FN67 Van Buren, ME

  8  47.006N  68.180W  FN57 Stockholm, ME

  9  46.854N  67.989W  FN66   Caribou, ME

10  46.692N* 68.015W* FN56  Presque Isle, ME

11  45.988N  67.862W  FN65   North Amity, ME

=

* At the time, I was so busy driving from one operating location to 
another that I didn't have time to record the latitude and longitude 
from the GPS 12XL. So, it was determined later from topographic maps.

=

You probably won't hear me on the satellites for a while. Instead, I'll 
be focused on completing several antenna related projects before winter 
sets in.  Among other things, I need to get my outdoor satellite 
antennas back in operation.

But in the mean time, send me your list of other rare grid squares you 
need in the northeast USA. I'll consider traveling to and activating 
any grid square in NY, PA, CT, RI, MA, VT, NH, and ME.

With winter approaching, this probably won't happen any time soon. But 
when the weather breaks next spring, the opportunity for doing this may 
come again. The most requested grid squares will be the ones I consider 
going to first.

So, email me your grid square wish list. And please put the phrase 
grid square somewhere on your email subject line.

73,
Richard, N2SPI
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[amsat-bb] Re: Grid Square Maps

2009-10-21 Thread Rafael Valdez G.


Try DX Atlas

 

it is not printed but you can track all contacted and confirmed grids with 
different colors... also it counts both cases

 

73





Rafael Valdez Jr.
XE2RV @ DM41mh
10-10 52716
VUCC Sat #164
 
http://sat-xe.blogspot.com
 
 
EX-XE2PWF
 
 
 
P Before printing, please think about your responsibility and commitment with 
the ENVIRONMENT. 
Antes de Imprimir, piensa entu responsabilidad y compromiso con el MEDIO 
AMBIENTE
 


 

 From: k...@cox.net
 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:33:57 -0700
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Square Maps
 
 Back in my county-hunting days I had purchased, from somewhere, a poster
 size black on white map of the continental USA with all counties shown. As
 each county was confirmed I could color in that county with a felt-tip
 marker. So I could quickly see if I needed a county heard on the air. 
 
 Is anyone aware of a similar commercially available map for the USA that
 shows grid squares which could be colored in as they were confirmed? How
 about for Europe or other areas?
 
 Thanks.
 Tom, KØTW
 
 
 
 
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[amsat-bb] Re: Grid Square Maps

2009-10-21 Thread David Gendle
Tom, I believe that the ARRL is still publishing a book that has the 
grid squares for the entire world.

Might be a bit of an overkill considering what you are looking for but 
that is your call.

73,
Dave - K4DLG

On 10/21/2009 12:33 PM, Tom wrote:
 Back in my county-hunting days I had purchased, from somewhere, a poster
 size black on white map of the continental USA with all counties shown. As
 each county was confirmed I could color in that county with a felt-tip
 marker. So I could quickly see if I needed a county heard on the air.

 Is anyone aware of a similar commercially available map for the USA that
 shows grid squares which could be colored in as they were confirmed? How
 about for Europe or other areas?

 Thanks.
 Tom, KØTW




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[amsat-bb] Re: Grid Square Maps

2009-10-21 Thread Ransom, Kenneth G.
You can print your own if you just need the USA.
http://www.oema.us/files/Amateur_Radio_US_Grid_Square_Map.pdf


Kenneth - N5VHO

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Of David Gendle
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:04 PM
To: AMSAT BB Mailing List
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Grid Square Maps

Tom, I believe that the ARRL is still publishing a book that has the
grid squares for the entire world.

Might be a bit of an overkill considering what you are looking for but
that is your call.

73,
Dave - K4DLG

On 10/21/2009 12:33 PM, Tom wrote:
 Back in my county-hunting days I had purchased, from somewhere, a poster
 size black on white map of the continental USA with all counties shown. As
 each county was confirmed I could color in that county with a felt-tip
 marker. So I could quickly see if I needed a county heard on the air.

 Is anyone aware of a similar commercially available map for the USA that
 shows grid squares which could be colored in as they were confirmed? How
 about for Europe or other areas?

 Thanks.
 Tom, KØTW




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[amsat-bb] Re: Grid Square Maps

2009-10-21 Thread Andrew Glasbrenner
David Gendle wrote:
 Tom, I believe that the ARRL is still publishing a book that has the 
 grid squares for the entire world.

 Might be a bit of an overkill considering what you are looking for but 
 that is your call.

 73,
 Dave - K4DLG

   

The ARRL also has a nice wall map with the North American grids.

If someone could do one for AMSAT, it might be a good fundraiser!

73, Drew KO4MA
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[amsat-bb] Cute 1.7 re-entry

2009-10-21 Thread John Heath
Cute 1.7 Re-entry

Its still up !!

Space Track elements for 07:24 this morning (October 21st) assign a Mean Motion 
of 16.2309
and they have revised their re-entry forecast.

Unless something unexpected happens it looks like the only serious contender 
left in the competition is Dave Bowman G0MRF who predicted October 27th.

73 John G7HIA
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[amsat-bb] Re: Grid Square Maps

2009-10-21 Thread Jari Koivurinne

 Back in my county-hunting days I had purchased, from somewhere, a poster
 size black on white map of the continental USA with all counties shown. As
 each county was confirmed I could color in that county with a felt-tip
 marker. So I could quickly see if I needed a county heard on the air.

 Is anyone aware of a similar commercially available map for the USA that
 shows grid squares which could be colored in as they were confirmed? How
 about for Europe or other areas?

 Thanks.
 Tom, KØTW



Here:

http://www.oema.us/files/Amateur_Radio_US_Grid_Square_Map.pdf

or create your own:

http://www.qsl.net/ve6yp/index.html

73s
Jari OH3UW


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[amsat-bb] Re: Grid Square Map

2009-10-21 Thread Tom
Thanks to all that responded to my post
 
I'm looking for something along the size of the grid map that ICOM supplies
(12 X 7) but in black and white so confirmed squares could be colored in.
The 8 1/2 X 11 maps that I've found online seem too small and the
resolution is not good. And, although ARRL chose to show only the cover of
it's grid square book, I think the pages inside are in color(?). 
 
Tom, KØTW 
 
 
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[amsat-bb] Re: New Kenwood HT for 2010?

2009-10-21 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Clint,

 Personally, I would be surprised if Kenwood dedicated a lot of
 engineering talent to a new, true full-duplex amateur handheld. The
 profit for them is not in the amateur world - but in the land mobile /
 commercial arenas.

 I hope I am wrong, though!

At Dayton 5 months ago, Kenwood had posters in their booth
announcing a new HT and HF transceiver for the summer of
2010.  Of course, there were no details released at that time
for either radio.

If Kenwood is simply updating the design of the old TH-D7 to
be this new HT, that might be their way to minimize RD costs.
If they are able to replace the component(s) no longer in
production with others, they may not make many other updates
in the interests of saving money.  The radio was still popular until
it was discontinued, and remains popular on the used market now.
I picked one up at a hamfest 3 months ago, and still need to make
time to play around with it.

When the TM-D710 and TM-V71 mobile radios were released,
Kenwood only developed one radio box for both of these models.
They share the same FCC ID number, and the RC-D710 adds the
TNC functionality to the TM-V71 (the RC-D710 does not attach to
the TM-V71, unfortunately).  Kenwood may be trying to stay in the
amateur market, without spending lots of money to do so.  It will
be interesting to see what this new HT looks like, whenever it sees
the light of day (or when someone puts photos of it online).

73!




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http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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[amsat-bb] Grid Square Map - Grey Scale

2009-10-21 Thread Clint Bradford
To the gentleman desiring a non-color grid square map ...

You can download the Icom grid square map as a .pdf at ...

http://www.work-sat.com

... then print it out grey scale ... or otherwise manipulate it in  
your favorite image/paint program!

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow 10W Duplexer Performance Measurements

2009-10-21 Thread Allan Saul
Hi Bruce,

I am afraid you are very much mistaken in your logic here.
For mode J on AO51 say, The 5W signal you transmit on 2m will
completely drive that 70cm preamp between the antenna and duplexer
into saturation unless you put a very good filter on the input 
(the desense issue). That insertion loss might negate any gains you make
on the preamp, increase your noise floor by 20dB and add a lot of hassle,
and more importantly weight.

Actually, the 1.2dB insertion loss is better than I was expecting
and good enough for the short cable run to the HT. It is what it is
and its good enough for the job it was intended for.

73's
Allan


-Original Message-
From: Bruce Robertson [mailto:ve9...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 21 October 2009 02:01 PM
To: Allan Saul
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Arrow 10W Duplexer Performance Measurements

I'm grateful to everyone who has contributed to this discussion.

It strikes me that the greatest improvement we could make to hand-held
yagis would be to somehow integrate a low noise preamp circuit very
close to the 70cm port. I have an indoor-style ARR preamp that I've
thought of connecting to the boom with cable ties. A powersupply using
AA batteries and a DC to DC buck-boost chip from, e.g., Maxim, would
keep the whole thing light. (Alternatively, I see that the max voltage
for my ARR is pretty high: I might get away with a pair of Nicad '9v'
batteries.)

Like so much of amateur radio, it's more of a challenge of
construction than anything else.

Has anyone experimented with this sort of improvement?

73, VE9QRP
Bruce

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Allan Saul al...@rfdesign.co.za wrote:
 Quite a lot of guys are using the handy Arrow Model 10W
 duplexer for the handheld 146/437 antenna and mine arrived here
 today so I thought I would put it on the network analyser
 and see how it performs.

 From the Radio cable to the 2m antenna connector an Insertion Loss of
 0.75dB was measured with a rejection of 57dB at 70cm. The VSWR at 2m was
 1.24:1

 From the Radio cable to the 70cm antenna connector an Insertion Loss of
 1.2dB was measured with an attenuation of 56dB on the 2m signal. The VSWR
 at 70cm was 1.29:1

 The VSWR on the 2m port was 1.21:1 and on the 70cm port was 1.20:1

 For those guys wanting to look at the actual plots they can be found here
 http://www.rfdesign.co.za/default.asp?pageID=785423593filePath=D:\SoftPage_V5\files\5645456\Download-Library\Amateur-Radio\ZS1LS\Mode-J-Filter

 73's
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[amsat-bb] Re: Grid Square Map

2009-10-21 Thread Tim - N3TL
Tom,

I have a copy of the ARRL grid square atlas, and it's all black and white 
inside. It shows the entire world, which is helpful for some of the grids you 
can work on some satellites that are outside what a U.S. map would show. That 
being said, the grids are very tiny in the atlas. 

I have a black and white map I can email you. Contact me off the BB if you'd 
like it. It's a U.S. map.

73,

Tim - N3TL





From: Tom k...@cox.net
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:13:02 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Grid Square Map

Thanks to all that responded to my post

I'm looking for something along the size of the grid map that ICOM supplies
(12 X 7) but in black and white so confirmed squares could be colored in.
The 8 1/2 X 11 maps that I've found online seem too small and the
resolution is not good. And, although ARRL chose to show only the cover of
it's grid square book, I think the pages inside are in color(?). 

Tom, KØTW 


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[amsat-bb] grid square maps

2009-10-21 Thread Jerry
 Hi : Just go to the hamfests and they give nice color Grid square
maps for free.

 In the last year I get one or two and give them away at the
club meetings.

 Jerry w0sat

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[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow 10W Duplexer Performance Measurements

2009-10-21 Thread Bruce Robertson
Good point, Allan. Actually, I was especially thinking of doing this
in some sort of arrangement that avoided the duplexer, perhaps using
an FT-817 on FO-29.

Even with the duplexer, there might be some solutions to the problem
you present. For instance, one could try making some sort of
vox-enabled power switching for the preamp, which  turned it off when
one began to transmit. Then you'd at least have the benefit of the
preamp when you were copying the other station(s).

73, Bruce
VE9QRP

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Allan Saul al...@rfdesign.co.za wrote:
 Hi Bruce,

 I am afraid you are very much mistaken in your logic here.
 For mode J on AO51 say, The 5W signal you transmit on 2m will
 completely drive that 70cm preamp between the antenna and duplexer
 into saturation unless you put a very good filter on the input
 (the desense issue). That insertion loss might negate any gains you make
 on the preamp, increase your noise floor by 20dB and add a lot of hassle,
 and more importantly weight.

 Actually, the 1.2dB insertion loss is better than I was expecting
 and good enough for the short cable run to the HT. It is what it is
 and its good enough for the job it was intended for.

 73's
 Allan


 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Robertson [mailto:ve9...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 21 October 2009 02:01 PM
 To: Allan Saul
 Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Arrow 10W Duplexer Performance Measurements

 I'm grateful to everyone who has contributed to this discussion.

 It strikes me that the greatest improvement we could make to hand-held
 yagis would be to somehow integrate a low noise preamp circuit very
 close to the 70cm port. I have an indoor-style ARR preamp that I've
 thought of connecting to the boom with cable ties. A powersupply using
 AA batteries and a DC to DC buck-boost chip from, e.g., Maxim, would
 keep the whole thing light. (Alternatively, I see that the max voltage
 for my ARR is pretty high: I might get away with a pair of Nicad '9v'
 batteries.)

 Like so much of amateur radio, it's more of a challenge of
 construction than anything else.

 Has anyone experimented with this sort of improvement?

 73, VE9QRP
 Bruce

 On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Allan Saul al...@rfdesign.co.za wrote:
 Quite a lot of guys are using the handy Arrow Model 10W
 duplexer for the handheld 146/437 antenna and mine arrived here
 today so I thought I would put it on the network analyser
 and see how it performs.

 From the Radio cable to the 2m antenna connector an Insertion Loss of
 0.75dB was measured with a rejection of 57dB at 70cm. The VSWR at 2m was
 1.24:1

 From the Radio cable to the 70cm antenna connector an Insertion Loss of
 1.2dB was measured with an attenuation of 56dB on the 2m signal. The VSWR
 at 70cm was 1.29:1

 The VSWR on the 2m port was 1.21:1 and on the 70cm port was 1.20:1

 For those guys wanting to look at the actual plots they can be found here
 http://www.rfdesign.co.za/default.asp?pageID=785423593filePath=D:\SoftPage_V5\files\5645456\Download-Library\Amateur-Radio\ZS1LS\Mode-J-Filter

 73's
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[amsat-bb] Re: New Kenwood HT for 2010?

2009-10-21 Thread myles landstein
Hi

If  you want to see  it near the end of the video

http://picasaweb.google.co.jp/ja7ude/KenwoodBoothAtTokyoHamFair2009#5372938884729290930


If  i had to guess, it's prob  the least amount of effort  to  make it  
ROHS compliant,  and   maybe  tweak a few   things  that  wouldn't run  
up the $$

drawing heavy on the   D7 vs  a  redesign




Looks  nice   very  similar  to it's  successor



On Oct 21, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote:

 Clint,

 Personally, I would be surprised if Kenwood dedicated a lot of
 engineering talent to a new, true full-duplex amateur handheld. The
 profit for them is not in the amateur world - but in the land  
 mobile /
 commercial arenas.

 I hope I am wrong, though!

 At Dayton 5 months ago, Kenwood had posters in their booth
 announcing a new HT and HF transceiver for the summer of
 2010.  Of course, there were no details released at that time
 for either radio.

 If Kenwood is simply updating the design of the old TH-D7 to
 be this new HT, that might be their way to minimize RD costs.
 If they are able to replace the component(s) no longer in
 production with others, they may not make many other updates
 in the interests of saving money.  The radio was still popular until
 it was discontinued, and remains popular on the used market now.
 I picked one up at a hamfest 3 months ago, and still need to make
 time to play around with it.

 When the TM-D710 and TM-V71 mobile radios were released,
 Kenwood only developed one radio box for both of these models.
 They share the same FCC ID number, and the RC-D710 adds the
 TNC functionality to the TM-V71 (the RC-D710 does not attach to
 the TM-V71, unfortunately).  Kenwood may be trying to stay in the
 amateur market, without spending lots of money to do so.  It will
 be interesting to see what this new HT looks like, whenever it sees
 the light of day (or when someone puts photos of it online).

 73!




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 http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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[amsat-bb] SAT STATUS upgrade

2009-10-21 Thread Andrew Rich
Hello

I have added more detail to the data stream, and have started adding stats 
graphs 

I would also like to make a calender so you can see when the satellites were 
active.

http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/sat_status/

Andrew VK4TEC

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[amsat-bb] Re: Arrow 10W Duplexer Performance Measurements

2009-10-21 Thread Michael Tondee
Bruce,
 Funny this should come up. I was doing some research on what kind of 
luck folks had with Ramsey preamps and came upon this link...
http://www.worldwidedx.com/home-brew-mods/35101-ramsey-pr40-440mhz-preamp-kit.html
I don't think this guys application used a diplexer and my 70cm antenna 
will be strictly receive as well but this struck me as kind of what you 
were talking about doing with the ARR unit.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
Bruce Robertson wrote:
 I'm grateful to everyone who has contributed to this discussion.

 It strikes me that the greatest improvement we could make to hand-held
 yagis would be to somehow integrate a low noise preamp circuit very
 close to the 70cm port. I have an indoor-style ARR preamp that I've
 thought of connecting to the boom with cable ties. A powersupply using
 AA batteries and a DC to DC buck-boost chip from, e.g., Maxim, would
 keep the whole thing light. (Alternatively, I see that the max voltage
 for my ARR is pretty high: I might get away with a pair of Nicad '9v'
 batteries.)

 Like so much of amateur radio, it's more of a challenge of
 construction than anything else.

 Has anyone experimented with this sort of improvement?

 73, VE9QRP
 Bruce

 On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Allan Saul al...@rfdesign.co.za wrote:
   
 Quite a lot of guys are using the handy Arrow Model 10W
 duplexer for the handheld 146/437 antenna and mine arrived here
 today so I thought I would put it on the network analyser
 and see how it performs.

 From the Radio cable to the 2m antenna connector an Insertion Loss of
 0.75dB was measured with a rejection of 57dB at 70cm. The VSWR at 2m was
 1.24:1

 From the Radio cable to the 70cm antenna connector an Insertion Loss of
 1.2dB was measured with an attenuation of 56dB on the 2m signal. The VSWR
 at 70cm was 1.29:1

 The VSWR on the 2m port was 1.21:1 and on the 70cm port was 1.20:1

 For those guys wanting to look at the actual plots they can be found here
 http://www.rfdesign.co.za/default.asp?pageID=785423593filePath=D:\SoftPage_V5\files\5645456\Download-Library\Amateur-Radio\ZS1LS\Mode-J-Filter

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[amsat-bb] Re: Cute 1.7 re-entry

2009-10-21 Thread Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
My prediction of a month ago was December 19th.

John Heath wrote:
 Cute 1.7 Re-entry
 
 Its still up !!
 
 Space Track elements for 07:24 this morning (October 21st) assign a Mean 
 Motion of 16.2309
 and they have revised their re-entry forecast.
 
 Unless something unexpected happens it looks like the only serious contender 
 left in the competition is Dave Bowman G0MRF who predicted October 27th.
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[amsat-bb] Re: Grid Square Maps

2009-10-21 Thread James Duffey
The ARRL makes a very nice one on 11 x 17 inch paper for $1. It is  
their #1290.
--
KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM





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[amsat-bb] Re: PIC rotator control

2009-10-21 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 21:50 +1000, Andrew Rich wrote:

 Sometime I wonder if just programming in perl on the LINUX side might be 
 just as easy

The PIC microcontrollers are frankly *dreadful*, without a single
redeeming feature.  What makes me like them even less is that you're
forced to use the bloody awful Windows software to program them, and the
programming hardware is extremely finicky.  There is a PIC assembler
that runs under Linux, but it sucks elephants through very fine mesh.

I've ditched all my PIC stuff and now use AVR, which is extremely well
supported on Windows, Mac OS and Linux.  It's a better product, the CPU
core is generally faster clock-for-clock and it's only slightly more
expensive.  How much is your time worth?

If you're not convinced yet, buy an Arduino board.  You probably
couldn't put together an AVR board for less in onesy-twoesy quantities.

Gordon MM0YEQ

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[amsat-bb] EM-97 West Virginia Operation Saturday 24 Oct

2009-10-21 Thread John Papay
A grid dxpedition to EM97 in West Virginia is planned for Saturday 
afternoon October 24th.  It's about 600 miles round trip so the first 
pass of AO-27 at 1734z will likely be the beginning of the 
operation.  Then AO-27 at 1912z, AO-27 a 2054z followed by AO-51 at 
2200z and possibly 2339z if it's not too dark.

West coast stations should try for the 2054z AO-27 pass since the 
2339z AO-51 pass could be dropped.  West Virginia is very mountainous 
and it is difficult to find a high point that can see down low to the 
horizon.  That and the fact that there are not that many hams in this 
grid are likely the cause of it being uncommon.

There are no digi's close to where I will operate but there may be coverage
from mountaintop digis far away.  Track with k8yse-8.  I'll also have 
the ISS APRS radio going which might relay the position to the aprs servers.
Unfortunately, there will not be any ISS passes while I'm at the operating
location, however, there will be passes in the morning on the way down.
The APRS radio is k8yse-9.  I will attempt to operate on the way down while
in motion.

I'll have HF capability on the way, probably on 40 meters most of the time.

The weather forecast is for rain and possible thunderstorms.  I hope they
will not be too severe.  As long as it is not lightning, I will operate in
the rain somehow.

Please email with suggestions and/or schedule requests.  As always, no qsl
card is necessary.  All contacts will be confirmed.

73,
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[amsat-bb] Re: Grid Square Map

2009-10-21 Thread Wayne Estes
The ARRL sells a plain black 11x17 inch grid map of North America for 
$1.  No color, no gray scale.  Perfect for coloring in the grids as you 
work/confirm them.

http://www.arrl.org/locate/gridinfo.html

A smaller version of the map is also in the ARRL Operating Manual and 
perhaps in the ARRL handbook.  I scanned, printed, and laminated the 
page from my ARRL Operating Manual.

Wayne Estes W9AE
Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN81ik

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[amsat-bb] ANS-294 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin SumbandilaSat Designated as SO-67

2009-10-21 Thread JoAnne Maenpaa
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-294.01
SumbandilaSat Designated as SO-67

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 294.01
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
October 21, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-294.01

AMSAT's OSCAR Number Coordinator Bill Tynan, W3XO announced he has
received an e-mail sent to the AMSAT-NA Board of Directors by Hans 
van de Groenendaal, ZS6AKV, Secretary SA AMSAT requesting that an
OSCAR number be allocated to SumbandilaSat.
 
In the e-mail Hans states that the amateur radio transponder on 
SumbandilaSat was successfully switched on from the ground by ZS6BPZ 
during the test phase on Sunday 18 October 2009 and that several QSOs 
were made through the transponder.

The amateur radio payload on SumbandilaSat was developed by SA AMSAT 
and incorporated by the University of Stellenbosch into the main pay-
load. The SA AMSAT payload was officially coordinated through the 
IARU Satellite Frequency Coordination Panel with an uplink of 145.880 
and downlink of 435.350 MHz
 
Bill replied, Therefore, by the authority vested in me by the 
AMSAT-NA President, I hereby designate this latest amateur radio 
satellite as SumbandilaSat Oscar 67 or SO-67. On behalf of AMSAT-NA 
and the world's amateur radio satellite community I congratulate those 
responsible for building, testing and launching this new satellite. 
May it have a long and successful life.
 
[ANS thanks Bill Tynan, W3XO for the above information]

/EX

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[amsat-bb] the future is coming

2009-10-21 Thread Rocky Jones

http://www.space-travel.com/reports/SpaceX_Completes_First_Stage_9_Engine_Rocket_Firing_999.html

Robert WB5MZO
  
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