[amsat-bb] Re: [suitsat2] ARISSat-1 Battery

2011-08-15 Thread Phil Karn
On 8/14/11 6:11 PM, Anthony Monteiro wrote:

 Yes, Zinc dendrites will form also if the battery is
 overcharged but we should not be able to do that on
 ARISSat-1 so only the silver ones should be an issue.

Oh, so they form on both plates. Interesting. Charging the battery
plates out zinc metal on the negative plates, but any metallic silver on
the positive plates should be oxidized back to silver oxide. Silver
dendrites should form only during discharge, right?

-Phil

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[amsat-bb] Re: Arissat transponder active over Europe.

2011-08-15 Thread Phil Karn
On 8/14/11 4:34 PM, Jim Cameron KC9PXZ wrote:

 I have a question, I don't have a SSB rig so I am FM only, wish I could
 decode telemetry and CW that would be a blast! but as I understand I
 can't with just FM, or am I wrong?

That's correct. It's just not possible to design a highly
power-efficient digital modulation method using a NBFM receiver. That
requires a linear channel. A FM receiver is nonlinear; it doesn't
respond to the amplitude of the signal, and many have limiters. A SSB
receiver is linear in the sense that there's no limiter and the
stronger the RF signal the stronger the audio output. That's why SSB is
used for weak signal work, among other things.

The main drawback to the use of standard SSB receivers is of course the
great sensitivity to Doppler shift that requires constant tuning.
Ideally everyone will move to software defined radios using hardware
front ends that are both linear and wideband. The SDX satellite
transponder is itself a software defined radio, and using its full
capabilities in a future satellite will require a SDR on the ground.

-Phil

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[amsat-bb] Re: Decoding wideband recordings

2011-08-15 Thread Mike Rupprecht
Sion,

another point to the DDE aspect:

just working on the DDE link between SATCONTROL and HDSDR. At the moment
HDSDR supports only Orbitron (Doppler tracking interval 1s), HRD and
WXtrack.

If I change the application name of SATCONTROL to Orbitron, the link can be
established and it works. The idea behind is to end the LO Frequency to the
FUNCubeDonge once - and keep it fix - BUT change the TUNE frequency of
HDSDR. This is possible in 1 Hz steps, so you can follow a narrowband signal
(CW/BPSK) much continuously.
(You can't change the LO Frequency of the FCD in 1 Hz steps).

73, Mike
DK3WN


If HDSDR could use the DDE output of WISP, it can start recording when  
a satellite name appears, and stop when '*** NO Satellite ***' appears.

These are just some of my thoughts to make automatic unattended  
reception easier, but I must say that DK3WN's FCD control + HDSDR are  
really great pieces of software.  Thank you to all those involved in  
their development :)

73, Sion, 9M2CQC




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[amsat-bb] ARISSAT-1 Voice Tlm (None)

2011-08-15 Thread Rich Dailey
Heard nothing on 145.950 from 802-812 UTC Aug 15. I'm assuming this is expected
as it was in eclipse. Sri, I've not been able to follow the battery issue 
thread due to other
commitments. Just happened to be up in the wee hours to listen.

Rich, N8UX. 

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[amsat-bb] Telemetry Data

2011-08-15 Thread Dianne
Hello,

 

You asked for emergency mode data, and I'm not sure what you meant, but I
have some that may or may not qualify.

We are located in San Diego, California

 

At 03:07 UTC (8:07 PM PDT (local))

MET was 62 minutes

IHU Temp was +45 degrees C

Control Panel Temp was +50 degrees C

Battery Voltage was 33.77 V

Battery Current was -8 mA

 

At 03:12 UTC (8:12 PM PDT (local))

MET was 67 minutes

IHU Temp was +45 degrees C

Control Panel Temp was +50 degrees C

Battery Voltage was 35.73 V

Battery Current was -8 mA

 

The secret words that we heard were the ones from the two American boys
(Explore) and the two British girls (Eagle)

 

I don't know if that was what you were looking for, or if it was at all
helpful, but I figured you'd rather have extra data than not.

 

-Lindsay White

KI6LZN

www.mchsarc.com http://www.mchsarc.com/ 

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[amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 over Sacramento, CA at 2145 PDT

2011-08-15 Thread wf6j
Here is the audio I copied from ARISSAT-1 on the 9:45 pm PDT pass over  
Sacramento, CA tonight.

While dark out here, you can hear the voice say:

NEC Temp A+40 degrees C
COntrol Panel Temp A+42 degrees C
Battery VOltage A 35.74 volts

after that I wasn't sure what was said, but attached is the audio file.

73,
Carl, WF6J
w...@sbcglobal.net





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[amsat-bb] Re: Decoding wideband recordings

2011-08-15 Thread Sion Chow Q. C. (9W2QC)

Mike,

First of all, thank you for the very great software :)

Just to clarify, in this case you will be tuning dopper at HDSDR  
instead of FCD control level?  Which if I get it right will result in  
the I/Q of the pass being recorded without doppler control?


73, Sion, 9M2CQC

Quoting Mike Rupprecht m...@mike-rupprecht.de:


Sion,

another point to the DDE aspect:

just working on the DDE link between SATCONTROL and HDSDR. At the moment
HDSDR supports only Orbitron (Doppler tracking interval 1s), HRD and
WXtrack.

If I change the application name of SATCONTROL to Orbitron, the link can be
established and it works. The idea behind is to end the LO Frequency to the
FUNCubeDonge once - and keep it fix - BUT change the TUNE frequency of
HDSDR. This is possible in 1 Hz steps, so you can follow a narrowband signal
(CW/BPSK) much continuously.
(You can't change the LO Frequency of the FCD in 1 Hz steps).

73, Mike
DK3WN


If HDSDR could use the DDE output of WISP, it can start recording when
a satellite name appears, and stop when '*** NO Satellite ***' appears.

These are just some of my thoughts to make automatic unattended
reception easier, but I must say that DK3WN's FCD control + HDSDR are
really great pieces of software.  Thank you to all those involved in
their development :)

73, Sion, 9M2CQC




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[amsat-bb] Re: Decoding wideband recordings

2011-08-15 Thread Mike Rupprecht
Sion,

exactly, the LO frequency of the FCD should be set to a fixed frequency,
e.g. the center frequency of the pass band. 
You move the TUNE frequency with HDSDR through the spectrum according the
doppler correction.

73, Mike
DK3WN



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Sion Chow Q. C. (9W2QC) [mailto:9w...@9w2qc.net] 
Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2011 10:47
An: Mike Rupprecht
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Betreff: Re: AW: [amsat-bb] Re: Decoding wideband recordings

Mike,

First of all, thank you for the very great software :)

Just to clarify, in this case you will be tuning dopper at HDSDR  
instead of FCD control level?  Which if I get it right will result in  
the I/Q of the pass being recorded without doppler control?

73, Sion, 9M2CQC

Quoting Mike Rupprecht m...@mike-rupprecht.de:

 Sion,

 another point to the DDE aspect:

 just working on the DDE link between SATCONTROL and HDSDR. At the moment
 HDSDR supports only Orbitron (Doppler tracking interval 1s), HRD and
 WXtrack.

 If I change the application name of SATCONTROL to Orbitron, the link can
be
 established and it works. The idea behind is to end the LO Frequency to
the
 FUNCubeDonge once - and keep it fix - BUT change the TUNE frequency of
 HDSDR. This is possible in 1 Hz steps, so you can follow a narrowband
signal
 (CW/BPSK) much continuously.
 (You can't change the LO Frequency of the FCD in 1 Hz steps).

 73, Mike
 DK3WN


 If HDSDR could use the DDE output of WISP, it can start recording when
 a satellite name appears, and stop when '*** NO Satellite ***' appears.

 These are just some of my thoughts to make automatic unattended
 reception easier, but I must say that DK3WN's FCD control + HDSDR are
 really great pieces of software.  Thank you to all those involved in
 their development :)

 73, Sion, 9M2CQC




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[amsat-bb] AO-40/P3D image wanted

2011-08-15 Thread John Heath
Hi,

Can anyone on the list point me to source of high resolution images of 
AO-40/P3E.
Need it for a magazine article. The images found via google are all low res.

Tried Peter DB2OS at amsat-dl but no reply as yet, and my deadline is two days 
away.

Thanks

John 

G7HIA
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[amsat-bb] Re: [suitsat2] ARISSat-1 Battery

2011-08-15 Thread Anthony Monteiro

Hi Phil,

Yes, that is correct.

73,
Tony AA2TX
---

On 8/15/2011 1:26 AM, Phil Karn wrote:

On 8/14/11 6:11 PM, Anthony Monteiro wrote:


Yes, Zinc dendrites will form also if the battery is
overcharged but we should not be able to do that on
ARISSat-1 so only the silver ones should be an issue.


Oh, so they form on both plates. Interesting. Charging the battery
plates out zinc metal on the negative plates, but any metallic silver on
the positive plates should be oxidized back to silver oxide. Silver
dendrites should form only during discharge, right?

-Phil




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[amsat-bb] Re: AO-40/P3D image wanted

2011-08-15 Thread Peter Gülzow
Hi John,
will send you some pictures later this evening, but you can find them also on 
www.amsat-dl.org in the Gallery. 
73s Peter 
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John Heath g7...@btinternet.com schrieb:

Hi,

Can anyone on the list point me to source of high resolution images of 
AO-40/P3E.
Need it for a magazine article. The images found via google are all low res.

Tried Peter DB2OS at amsat-dl but no reply as yet, and my deadline is two days 
away.

Thanks

John 

G7HIA
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[amsat-bb] Videos of Presentations given at AMSAT-UK Colloquium

2011-08-15 Thread Trevor .
Thanks to the hard work of volunteers from the British Amateur Television Club 
(BATC) 14 videos of the presentations given to the AMSAT-UK International Space 
Colloquium held in Guildford July 30-31 are now available.

You can watch the video online at http://www.batc.tv/
Click on the 'Film Archive' icon
Select 'AMSAT 2011' from the Category drop down menu
Click 'Select Category'
Select the video you wish to watch  
Click on 'Select Stream'
Click the play icon '' on the player
Clicking on the icon to the left of the player volume control will give you 
full screen display.

You can also download a video file to your PC by clicking on the 'Click Here' 
link under the player.

Some of the PowerPoint slides can also be downloaded by following the links in 
the Videos story at http://www.uk.amsat.org/ 

73 Trevor M5AKA





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[amsat-bb] ARISSAT-1 report

2011-08-15 Thread g.shirville

Hi All,

Just popped outside from the IARU Region 1 Conference meeting to catch an 
ARISSAT pass.


Good signals with an Arrow and a FCD and also using a G0MRF prototype filter 
amplifier with 5v being supplied by the Dongle. (Thanks David for the loan)


Voice telemetry reported MET of 41 mins - which corresponds very well to 
when it left eclipse over the Pacific. Battery volts 35.74 and current -4ma


The signal had no fading but several occasional ~ 100 msec breaks in 
transmission were noted.


best 73 from sunny ZS6 land
Graham
G3VZV

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[amsat-bb] ARISSAT-1 report

2011-08-15 Thread g.shirville

Hi All,

Just popped outside from the IARU Region 1 Conference meeting to catch an
ARISSAT pass.

Good signals with an Arrow and a FCD and also using a G0MRF prototype filter
amplifier with 5v being supplied by the Dongle. (Thanks David for the loan)

Voice telemetry reported MET of 41 mins - which corresponds very well to
when it left eclipse over the Pacific. Battery volts 35.74 and current -4ma

I just failed to identify a ZS station using the transponder!

The signal had no fading but several occasional ~ 100 msec breaks in
transmission were noted.

best 73 from sunny ZS6 land
Graham
G3VZV 


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[amsat-bb] Article: 50 yrs of the tracking fence

2011-08-15 Thread Rich Dailey
Thought other tracking nuts like myself would enjoy this article on the 
NAVSPACR fence(s)... N8UX.

http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2011/082011/08152011/644977

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[amsat-bb] AO-40 Image found - thanks

2011-08-15 Thread John Heath


Hi
I can now meet the publication deadline.
Thanks to everyone who replied, including Peter DB2OS Amsat-DL

73 John G7HIA
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[amsat-bb] Re: A rose is a rose... is a rose

2011-08-15 Thread Gregg Wonderly
Yes Phil, you are correct.  Communications and earth observation in orbit are 
great examples of space applications that have succeeded.  But, they are also 
things that we've already done.  I admit that there is probably more to explore 
and learn here, near to us, but I was really thinking about more distant space 
exploration.  Our planet is pretty boring from the perspective that we are here, 
and get get around on it to see what's on the surface.  Subsurface exploration 
in the Ocean (I'd like to know a lot more about those now underwater cities that 
appear to have been buried by catastrophic floods from ICE age ice dams 
breaking), and other deep earth observations would be a good thing to learn more 
about what is going on without planet and how we are affecting.


Higher orbit or distant communications systems are exciting.  A repeater or two 
on the moon for example would be something that we might try and be ready to 
provide should a moon mission come up on the horizon.


Gregg Wonderly

On 8/13/2011 4:46 PM, Phil Karn wrote:

On 8/9/11 4:47 PM, Gregg Wonderly wrote:


But, if no one who has the money wants to fund space flight, then it won't
ever happen privately.  I.e. why hasn't the privetization already happened? I
think it's because it doesn't make money.  There's nothing known to generate
value out of space flight.


Actually, there's one space application that has proved quite
commercially viable: communications. Commercial earth resources
satellites are a distant second. I can't think of anything else.

Exploration for its own sake is never going to be commercially viable.
There has to be some short-term economic payoff. There's a long history
of those who have become rich in some other industry funding an earth
expedition out of personal interest, but the cost of space flight is
still far too high for this to extend to space. It means that the
funding of space exploration will have to remain the province of
governments for the time being. There's just no payoff for commercial
investment, at least not yet.

-Phil


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[amsat-bb] PiperMail Broken?

2011-08-15 Thread Clint Bradford
I normally go to the PiperMail page to see latest posts by date.

But I cannot see anything there since August 10 ...

Last message date: Wed Aug 10 09:20:13 PDT 2011
Archived on: Wed Aug 10 09:20:29 PDT 2011

What am I doing wrong now?


Clint Bradford


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[amsat-bb] Students to Call the ISS

2011-08-15 Thread Clint Bradford
MEDIA ADVISORY: M11-169

MISSISSIPPI AND LOUISIANA STUDENTS TO CALL SPACE STATION ASTRONAUTS

WASHINGTON -- Students gathered at NASA's John C. Stennis Space Center 
in Mississippi will place a long distance call to astronauts aboard 
the International Space Station at 1:35 p.m. EDT on Thursday, Aug. 
18. 

Mississippi and Louisiana students in kindergarten through twelfth 
grade will ask Expedition 28 Flight Engineers Ron Garan, Mike Fossum 
and Satoshi Furukawa questions related to mass and weight. The 
experience is designed to enhance the students' understanding of 
scientific principles, physics and space. Stennis' education office 
is hosting the call, which will include a video link with the three 
astronauts and will be broadcast live on NASA Television. 

To attend, journalists must contact Rebecca Strecker at 228-688-3249 
no later than 3 p.m. on Wednesday, Aug. 17, to arrange for clearance 
and escort to the event. 

This in-flight education downlink is one in a series with educational 
organizations in the United States and abroad to improve teaching and 
learning in science, technology, engineering and mathematics studies. 
It is an integral component of NASA's Teaching From Space education 
program, which promotes learning opportunities and builds 
partnerships with the education community using the unique 
environment of space and NASA's human spaceflight program. 

The exact time of the downlink could change. For the latest NASA TV 
schedule, visit: 


http://www.nasa.gov/ntv 


For information about NASA's education programs, visit: 


http://www.nasa.gov/education 


For more information about the International Space Station, visit: 


http://www.nasa.gov/station   


-end-


Clint Bradford
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[amsat-bb] ARISSAT-1 telemetry record

2011-08-15 Thread Mateusz



Hallo

Here is record of ARISSAT-1 telemetry (19 frames and 18 Kursk frames):


http://www.enduro.idl.pl/temp/arissat_1_telemetry_15_08_2011_1830.mp3



Today evening, UTC time, very good signal, no transponder and SSTV signals 
were heard.


I have only 1 qso via arissat-1 transponder, with IW6OVD.


It is very interesting listening and decoding this telemetry.


Matt SQ7DQX




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[amsat-bb] MET clock

2011-08-15 Thread Terry McCarthy
Can anyone tell me if the MET reading is zero after a reset or should it 
read 15?  For Arissat-1 that is.


Terry VK5GU
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[amsat-bb] Certificate for receiving BPSK-1000 telemetry

2011-08-15 Thread Ronald G. Parsons
The ARISSat web site shows how to get a Reception Certificate for Voice ID, 
Voice Telemetry, and SSTV.

I have screen shots of the BPSK-1000 reception and CW.

How does one claim a certificate for BPSK-1000 reception?

Ron W5RKN
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[amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 Voice Telemetry Over Fort Walton Beach, Florida

2011-08-15 Thread Mike Schaffer
Voice telemetry reception on Tuesday, Aug 16 at 0040 UTC on 2M 145.950 FM 
during high power mode while over Fort Walton Beach, Florida.

Satellite tracking showed Azimuth: 314, Elevation: +34

Telemetry Data:

MET is 58 minutes
IHU Temp is +44 degrees C
Control Panel Temp is +29 C
Battery Voltage is 35.81 volts
Battery Current is -12 ma


73's 
Mike Schaffer
KA3JAW
Tampa, Florida 
EL87
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[amsat-bb] Re: Certificate for receiving BPSK-1000 telemetry

2011-08-15 Thread Stephen E. Belter
Ron,

All telemetry *Reception Certificate* requests, either voice or BPSK, should be 
sent to the same e-mail address:  tlmrep...@arissat1.org .

Please send the actual voice telemetry information (MET, temperatures, battery 
voltages, etc.) as e-mail to amsat-bb@amsat.org .

Please upload BPSK decoded telemetry to arissattlm.org .

73, Steve N9IP 
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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf 
Of Ronald G. Parsons
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:03 PM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Certificate for receiving BPSK-1000 telemetry

The ARISSat web site shows how to get a Reception Certificate for Voice ID, 
Voice Telemetry, and SSTV.

I have screen shots of the BPSK-1000 reception and CW.

How does one claim a certificate for BPSK-1000 reception?

Ron W5RKN
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[amsat-bb] Voice Telem for ARISSAT1

2011-08-15 Thread Michael Wolthuis
Was able to grab telemetry off last pass over EN73.

MET 60
I8U?  +44deg C
Cpanl +30deg C
Bat Volt 35.85V
??? -16mA

MET 63
Same stats except voltage was ­8mA

There was an additional voice telem, but was not able to pull it out at 1deg
off LOS.

Heard secret word, but was in spin when I heard it I believe and missed it.
On vacation all week, so maybe tomorrow!

Mike
kb8zgl



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[amsat-bb] 2 Voice TLM Reports from 08-16-2011 @ 0:43:20UTC

2011-08-15 Thread Josh Golladay
ARISSat1 Heard at my QTH in Gridsquare EN50lm. It was in high power mode at
the time.
I'm sorry to hear that this little satellite is having battery issues.  Hope
my TLM data proves helpful.

Josh

Josh Golladay (KC9UJS)
212 Edwards Drive
Normal, IL 61761
joshgolla...@gmail.com
309-824-6347

TLM Reports to follow:
==

0:43:20 UTC 08-16-2011
MET = 62 minutes
IHU Temp = +45 Degrees C
Control Panel Temp = +30 Degrees C
Battery Voltage = 35.73V
Battery Current = -16ma

2 minutes earlier on the same pass
MET = 60
IHU Temp = +44 Degrees C
CPU Temp = +29 Degrees C
Battery Voltage = 35.73V
Battery Current = ??? (Static...could not copy.)
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[amsat-bb] ARISSAT-1 CW beacon heard

2011-08-15 Thread G. Beat


Quickly dialed up 2 meter SSB/CW receiver this evening 

Heard ARISSAT-1 CW beacon (weak) -- 15 August, 21:15 CDT. 

Appeared to be in Lo Pwr mode, No BPSK telemetry or FM heard.  

  

Copied part of the CW beacon (some fading) the old fashion way -- 

no computers were used or harmed with this method. 

  

IHU 53C; CP 31C; Battery 35 C  missed the current and then signal disappeared. 

  

== 

w9gb
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[amsat-bb] Voice TLM

2011-08-15 Thread Scott Richardson
Voice telemetry in FN43.

60442935.73-20201108160041
62453035.73-16201108160043
65453035.73-20201108160046

Scott N1AIA
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[amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 15 Aug 2205 UTC

2011-08-15 Thread Sion Chow Q. C.
Dear All,

Just to report that this morning, 15 Aug, 2205 UTC, ARISSat-1 was not heard 
over West Malaysia during 83 degree elevation pass.  Looking forward to the 
evening pass later today.

73, Sion, 9M2CQC
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[amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 Telemetry Decoding video

2011-08-15 Thread Jason Charles
I created a video demonstration of the telemetry decoding session for the 16
August 2011 0034 UTC North American pass. Two frames of both telemetry and
the Kursk experiment were decoded.

For those that are interested.

http://www.n4jtc.com/?p=121

73
Jason
N4JTC
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[amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 Voice Telemetry 03:44z 8/16/2011

2011-08-15 Thread Greg D.

An annoyingly high pass this evening (79 degrees, on the wrong side of a 
South-centered rotor)...

03:44z 8/16/2011
MET = 60 min
IHU temp = +39c
Control panel temp = +29c
Battery = 35.58v
Charge = -20ma

Satellite appeared to switch to low power mode right before this, as there were 
a couple of voice greetings (Hi this is ARISSat-1) prior to the telemetry, 
then 2 minutes of silence.

When the satellite came back after the 2 minute pause, I tried hitting the 
transponder with some CW dits.  Nothing heard on the downlink, though my rotor 
was horribly mispositioned at the time (ref the afore mentioned annoyingly high 
pass...).

Greg  KO6TH

  
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[amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 voice telemetry 05:22z 8/16/2011

2011-08-15 Thread Greg D.

Hi folks,

Another pass just now...

05:22z 8/16/2011 from CM98 in Northern Calif.

MET = 64 min
IHU Temp = +34c
Control panel temp = +28c
Battery = 35.86v
Current = -4ma

Low power mode, I think.  2 minutes off after the telemetry, then voices and an 
SSTV picture, but very poor reception for the second half of the pass, in 
contrast to prior passes.  Given that the temperatures are falling, perhaps we 
have a different orientation?

Greg  KO6TH

  
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