[amsat-bb] Re: HEO history question
Hi John, The UK and the mid-west were mutually visible in the morning almost the entire month of November, 1997, via AO-10. There was a gap for a couple of weeks in December, 1997, but mutual visibility returned for the 2nd half of January 1998 into Feburary 1998. RS12/13 made morning passes visible to the mid-west roughly every other week starting October, 1997 to March of 1998. (didn't calculate passes beyond that) However, if you were tuning around in the FM mode and found an SSB signal loud enough to get your attention, I think you probably heard RS12/13. Do you remember how long you heard the signal? (a couple of minutes or a half an hour or more). Was the signal strength steady or was there a slow deep QSB? 73, Armando, N8IGJ Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:58:52 -0600 From: John Geiger aa...@fidmail.com To: AMSAT-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO history question Message-ID: CAFq43LZDtAvUcUDYzFtYxe4kG0XBQK_iaGNKkR6KE0tB=h1...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Back in late 1997 or early 1998 I was using a Kenwood TR9130 on 2m SSB. One morning I was tuning from the FM to the SSB portion of the band, and heard a station just below 146mhz. I tuned them in, and it was a station from Wales! Obviously going thru a satellite as the 2 meter conditions weren't that good that morning. I am now wondering what satellite it probably was. Hearing it was enough to motivate me to eventually get into satellite operations-that took a few years though. Anyways, what satellite was I probably hearing? I am guessing AO10 or AO13 but were they operational at that time? 73s John AA5JG ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward
On 12/4/2011 11:35 PM, i8cvs wrote: - Original Message - From: Gordon JC Pearcegordon...@gjcp.net To:amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:33 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lets move forward Leave SSB to the gallbladder brigade on 80m. -- Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQgordon...@gjcp.net Hi Gordon, MM0YEQ At the age of 80 (March 15th) I found that comment very very offensive. I think that the gallbladder comment was offensive from the perspective that it was derogatory. I think it's important for all parts of amateur radio to understand how other parts view them. That peer pressure helps to all have conversation (when it gets to be a bad view) which can help us arrive at educating each other about why our views, behavior, equipment, operating practices etc. are different. In addition I see that you technically don't know the advantages of the SSB over FM This is a little on the assumptive side of the conversation. He may in fact completely understand what SSB brings to the table, but also understand, that practically, FM, WiFi, PSK or any other mode doesn't necessarily enable communications through a satellite as much as it facilitates a particular type of operating practice, some of which are easier to use, than others. For very short duration conversations, SSB tuning around diminishes the usable time, because it inhibits communications for the moments that the stations are chasing each other. I.e. you don't know where the other station is at on the dial, and you tune around as they are calling, and then they start tuning away because no one comes back immediately. With FM, you either hear them, or you don't, and the small single frequency sats make it unnecessary to guess. You just need a Doppler tuning capable radio, and either software to do Doppler for you, or some experience to learn how to do it yourself, manually. Listen here please how looks an SSB QSO via VO-52 made day 28 november 2011 between my self and IW6OVD and compare with any FM satellite. http://hamradio.selfip.com/iw6ovd/VO-52.mp3 Listening to this, points out the difference in operating practices required between FM and SSB. It also illustrates a casual conversation on a satellite, which some would argue is something that you should not be using such limited resources for. The fact that you are using your native language, might say to someone who doesn't know the language, that you are trying to ignore or leave out other Amateur operators who you don't want interfering with your QSO. That is the same kind of experience that many newer HF spectrum users find on 80m. There are some decade or longer friends roundtables on that band, and many of those conversations are so specific and/or so small in interest (health issues) that others operators don't feel like they can join the conversation. On most of the other bands, conversations are very different in nature. I'm not trying to be harsh Domenico. Your contributions in the forum here, are always professional and educational. I just want you to have an idea of how someone else might perceive your intent so that you can see how the original derogatory comment can become easy to toss out, in conversation. Gregg Wonderly W5GGW 73 de i8CVS Domenico ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Wow
I've noticed lately this board is sounding more and more like the boards on a certain ham radio forum. Filled with personal attacks. Would the things you say on the internet be something you would say to a persons face? I think not. I thought we were on this board for one purpose, amateur radio satellite communications. FM, SSB, CW, packet, it doesn't matter. Making contacts through a satellite zooming overhead is just a lot of fun. And when you stop to think about it, pretty darn amazing. Let's get back to helping one another and making contacts without all the grade school nonsense. Jim Adams - K0BAM Delta County, Colorado DM68 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Wow
At 09:08 AM 12/5/2011 -0700, jim9...@gmail.com wrote: I've noticed lately this board is sounding more and more like the boards on a certain ham radio forum. Filled with personal attacks. Well the CB'ers don't have AO-51 anymore so they have to vent someplace. KB7ADL Proud member of the gallbladder Brigade ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Wow
Thanks for this clear statement. I totally agree with you except the grade school nonsense comment. That is exactly what not to do, but return to the base of the mailing list. 73 Jan PE0SAT I've noticed lately this board is sounding more and more like the boards on a certain ham radio forum. Filled with personal attacks. Would the things you say on the internet be something you would say to a persons face? I think not. I thought we were on this board for one purpose, amateur radio satellite communications. FM, SSB, CW, packet, it doesn't matter. Making contacts through a satellite zooming overhead is just a lot of fun. And when you stop to think about it, pretty darn amazing. Let's get back to helping one another and making contacts without all the grade school nonsense. Jim Adams - K0BAM Delta County, Colorado DM68 -- With regards PE0SAT Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Fwd: Wow
- Forwarded Message - From: wa4...@comcast.net To: Jim Adams jim9...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 10:42:20 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Wow I agree Jim. Sounds like a bunch of democrats wanting something for free and at someones else expence. Maybe the next bird should require a monthly fee to be a member and if you dont pay have them cut off WA4HFN - Original Message - From: Jim Adams jim9...@gmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 10:08:01 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Wow I've noticed lately this board is sounding more and more like the boards on a certain ham radio forum. Filled with personal attacks. Would the things you say on the internet be something you would say to a persons face? I think not. I thought we were on this board for one purpose, amateur radio satellite communications. FM, SSB, CW, packet, it doesn't matter. Making contacts through a satellite zooming overhead is just a lot of fun. And when you stop to think about it, pretty darn amazing. Let's get back to helping one another and making contacts without all the grade school nonsense. Jim Adams - K0BAM Delta County, Colorado DM68 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Orbital Decay and Atmospheric Density
Hi Gents, I have been working on an excel spreadsheet regarding ARISSat-1, orbital decay and atmospheric density. Its a small workbook with some calculations and a chart. The idea is to work out the volume that ARISSat-1 sweeps through per orbit, then calculate the mass of atomic material it will colloid with. Math is NOT my best subject . Is there a math guru on the list willing to take a quick look and tell me if I am on the right lines. Let me know and I will send it off list. Thanks John G7HIA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] A simple request made in a timeless video
This classic YouTube video expresses one young gentleman's concern for the future of amateur radio satellite enthusiasts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0 In the last few seconds of the video, an appeal is made to all generations. ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] NASA Discovers New Planet
Wow ... NASA discovered a new planet our of our solar system! Averages 82 degrees ... sunny ... water ... I suggest they call it, Planet San Diego. But some guy named Keplerian already had dibs ... Clint Bradford ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] info please
At one time I was seeing updates on new SAT projects. For some reason when I had my computer hard drive problem I stop seeing such updates and cant seem to find the URL now. Can someone please pass it to me again? And any word on what is happening on a replacement for AO-40 other then lack of funds. Thanks, all John, W0JAB EM48lk ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: NASA Discovers New Planet
hey, didn't they discover Planet Hollywood a number of years back, but it turned out to be a restaurant! go figure ;) 73's Peter ps a good laugh never hurts! -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Clint Bradford Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:42 PM To: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Discovers New Planet Wow ... NASA discovered a new planet our of our solar system! Averages 82 degrees ... sunny ... water ... I suggest they call it, Planet San Diego. But some guy named Keplerian already had dibs ... Clint Bradford ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] The Future Of Spaceflight As Seen Nearly 50 Years Ago
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1981/1 The predictions seem quaint now, but, back then, they seemed realistic. 73s Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: NASA Discovers New Planet
however no intelligent life was found on this new planet Bob W7LRD - Original Message - From: Clint Bradford clintbradf...@mac.com To: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 12:41:40 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Discovers New Planet Wow ... NASA discovered a new planet our of our solar system! Averages 82 degrees ... sunny ... water ... I suggest they call it, Planet San Diego. But some guy named Keplerian already had dibs ... Clint Bradford ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: NASA Discovers New Planet
Yes but they could Not fig out if it was Humans or Aliens because of all the Strange or lack of clothes Ha Ha 73 De Don KA9QJG -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Bob- W7LRD Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 8:04 PM To: Clint Bradford Cc: AMSAT BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NASA Discovers New Planet however no intelligent life was found on this new planet Bob W7LRD - Original Message - From: Clint Bradford clintbradf...@mac.com To: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 12:41:40 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Discovers New Planet Wow ... NASA discovered a new planet our of our solar system! Averages 82 degrees ... sunny ... water ... I suggest they call it, Planet San Diego. But some guy named Keplerian already had dibs ... Clint Bradford ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 status
I have renamed the files with only the first letter capitalized to fix the case-sensitive OS issue. I have also e-mailed Michael Wyrick to double-check the new Topr.txt file, as it shows the analog transponder only on for four minutes, and it definitely seemed to be on for the usual 7 minutes when I listened to a pass yesterday. I think it's a typo... George, KA3HSW - Original Message - From: Greg D. ko6th_g...@hotmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 12:29 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 status Exactly, an O/S thing. Windows (and its predecessor DOS) are case insensitive for file names. Linux (which I run) is case sensitive - EOPC.txt and Epoc.txt are two entirely different names - and the program had an awful time with the apparently missing file. I don't know what would happen on a Mac, but if you have trouble, that's one place to look. Greg KO6TH Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 09:52:26 -0600 From: n...@lavabit.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 status Interesting. I installed the program last night, and then downloaded and copied the epoch and topr files into that directory. Epoch is indeed all caps on the download, but the file in my directory from the install had just the capital e. Upon copying and choosing the replace option in Vista, the capital e is retained with the rest lower case, and the file works fine. I guess that is an operating system thing, then? 73, Jerry N0JY ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
