Re: [Amsn-devel] WEBCAM - MSN 7.5

2005-11-30 Thread Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
Le 05-11-30 à 05:15, Sander Hoentjen a écrit :Well.. I looked at the code, and I couldn't find anywhere where the webcam bit was set. It should be set in the webcamwizard, i grepped for it but couldn't find. Is it set somewhere?It was supossed to be in the webcam assistant but we delayed it so no it's not in the webcam wizard neither Maybe setting it will fix things, otherwise try changing config.tcl:620: ::MSN::setClientCap msnc4 to :MSN::setClientCap msnc3 but that is a long shot Yeah that's the only place we declare it.Why do you say it's a long shot? What is supose to be the difference betwen msnc3 and msnc4?

Re: [Amsn-devel] WEBCAM - MSN 7.5

2005-11-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
the webcam clientid means we can send webcam, it doesn't mean, if not set,  
that we can't receive webcam...


KaKaRoTo

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:15:19 -0500, Sander Hoentjen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Well.. I looked at the code, and I couldn't find anywhere where the
webcam bit was set. It should be set in the webcamwizard, i grepped for
it but couldn't find. Is it set somewhere?
Maybe setting it will fix things, otherwise try changing
config.tcl:620: ::MSN::setClientCap msnc4
to :MSN::setClientCap msnc3
but that is a long shot

On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 22:50 -0500, Jerome Gagnon-Voyer wrote:
 About the clientid possibility ask Sander, he should know theses  
things.
Le lundi, 28 novembre, 2005, à 19h51, Youness Alaoui  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :


okkk.. I just checked and yes, it's a big problem...
It seems that MSN 7.5 now automatically sends a video conference
invitation instead of a webcam invitation... amsn doesn't support  
this...

I don't know if there is a way using the clientid to specify whether we
support video conference or not...
As I said a long time ago, the appId, the GUID and everything is the  
exact
same thing for webcam and video conference.. the only difference is in  
the

Context field of the mnsp2p invite, the context is the base64 encoded
string containing the app to launch...
anyways, you have two GUID possibilites, one is to send the other to
receive, they both are for video, and the context defines whether  
it's

video-conference and video-webcam...
We should check the context before accepting or not, but I'd like to  
know
if we can change the clientid to say we don't support video  
conference...

now we're receiving data that is invalid simply because it's a
video-conference codec, not the webcam codec...
We should, before 0.95, fix this.. Ill work on it now, but we need to
check the clientid possibilities...
Salatiel, thank you for all the feedback and the help you provided us.
Please ask your friend to do :
Actions-Voice/Video-Send my webcam

p.s.: If I remember correctly, depending on the clientid, when we  
click on
send video, a popup menu would appear and you could choose send  
webcam
or start video conference.. from what I heard, it seems that msn 7.5  
now
automatically uses video conference by default (probably because every  
MSN
client supports it and every non official client supports webcam :P  
damn

M$)

KaKaRoTo


On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:07:20 -0500, Salatiel Filho
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 attached. CVS from right now :)
 []'s

Salatiel


 On 11/28/05, Le Philousophe - Phil  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
 
  yes please.
  Phil
 
  Le Lundi 28 Novembre 2005 20:54, Salatiel Filho a écrit:
   should i send log from lastest cvs ?
  
   On 11/28/05, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

ok...
we'll wait for more info..
   
KRT
   
   
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:51:38 -0500, Le Philousophe - Phil
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 nbread should work like the read function of the Tcl core  
but

  waiting
 using an
 update. It works very well for me so I don't think it is  
due to

  it...
 After a look at the status_log and the code I saw that it's  
in

 the
 GetCamDataSize that there is the error : so I decided to  
read my

  nbread
 code
 which provides the data and the proc loops until it has the  
data

  asked
 or if
 there is an error it returns an empty string and the  
status_log

 is
 informed
 so...
 Phil

 Le Lundi 28 Novembre 2005 18:18, Youness Alaoui a écrit:
 it looks like the anonymous CVS is not yet synchronised  
with

 the
  devel
 CVS, maybe you should wait a few hours (I think it's  
updated on

  the
 website every 3 hours)
 but anyways, from what I saw, I think Phil should look at
 this...
 Phil, look at the sock8 and 9, 9 is successful, 8 we're  
still

  reading,
 then nbread fails because we closed the socket, and I don't
 know
  what
 happens but we do a conenction failed.. I don't thin kit
 bothers
  us,
   
but
   
 anyways, we received an invalid data there... I don't know  
if

  it's
 normal
 or not... it looks like in ASCII, it's
 V  but I need the whole string, maybe it will help...  
that's

  why I'm
 waiting for him to update the CVS andretry...
 you're the one who did the nbread, maybe you know more  
than me

  about
   
how
   
 it works.. if it's not because of nbread, I'll also take a  
look

  at
 this tonight..


 KaKaRoTo

 On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:25:32 -0500, Salatiel Filho

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  log attached from latest cvs...
 
  On 11/28/05, Youness Alaoui 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  Hi,
  first, the log is not complete... you're sending only  
the

 last
  part

 of

  the
  status log, I suggest you send the full log...
  secondly, I just changed some debug messages in the  

Re: [Amsn-devel] WEBCAM - MSN 7.5

2005-11-30 Thread Sander Hoentjen
I know but it should still be set

On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 08:58 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 the webcam clientid means we can send webcam, it doesn't mean, if not set,  
 that we can't receive webcam...
 
 KaKaRoTo
 
 On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:15:19 -0500, Sander Hoentjen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 
  Well.. I looked at the code, and I couldn't find anywhere where the
  webcam bit was set. It should be set in the webcamwizard, i grepped for
  it but couldn't find. Is it set somewhere?
  Maybe setting it will fix things, otherwise try changing
  config.tcl:620: ::MSN::setClientCap msnc4
  to :MSN::setClientCap msnc3
  but that is a long shot
 
  On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 22:50 -0500, Jerome Gagnon-Voyer wrote:
   About the clientid possibility ask Sander, he should know theses  
  things.
  Le lundi, 28 novembre, 2005, à 19h51, Youness Alaoui  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 
  okkk.. I just checked and yes, it's a big problem...
  It seems that MSN 7.5 now automatically sends a video conference
  invitation instead of a webcam invitation... amsn doesn't support  
  this...
  I don't know if there is a way using the clientid to specify whether we
  support video conference or not...
  As I said a long time ago, the appId, the GUID and everything is the  
  exact
  same thing for webcam and video conference.. the only difference is in  
  the
  Context field of the mnsp2p invite, the context is the base64 encoded
  string containing the app to launch...
  anyways, you have two GUID possibilites, one is to send the other to
  receive, they both are for video, and the context defines whether  
  it's
  video-conference and video-webcam...
  We should check the context before accepting or not, but I'd like to  
  know
  if we can change the clientid to say we don't support video  
  conference...
  now we're receiving data that is invalid simply because it's a
  video-conference codec, not the webcam codec...
  We should, before 0.95, fix this.. Ill work on it now, but we need to
  check the clientid possibilities...
  Salatiel, thank you for all the feedback and the help you provided us.
  Please ask your friend to do :
  Actions-Voice/Video-Send my webcam
  
  p.s.: If I remember correctly, depending on the clientid, when we  
  click on
  send video, a popup menu would appear and you could choose send  
  webcam
  or start video conference.. from what I heard, it seems that msn 7.5  
  now
  automatically uses video conference by default (probably because every  
  MSN
  client supports it and every non official client supports webcam :P  
  damn
  M$)
  
  KaKaRoTo
  
  
  On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:07:20 -0500, Salatiel Filho
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   attached. CVS from right now :)
   []'s
  
  Salatiel
  
  
   On 11/28/05, Le Philousophe - Phil  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
   
yes please.
Phil
   
Le Lundi 28 Novembre 2005 20:54, Salatiel Filho a écrit:
 should i send log from lastest cvs ?

 On 11/28/05, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  wrote:
  ok...
  we'll wait for more info..
 
  KRT
 
 
  On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:51:38 -0500, Le Philousophe - Phil
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,
   nbread should work like the read function of the Tcl core  
  but
waiting
   using an
   update. It works very well for me so I don't think it is  
  due to
it...
   After a look at the status_log and the code I saw that it's  
  in
   the
   GetCamDataSize that there is the error : so I decided to  
  read my
nbread
   code
   which provides the data and the proc loops until it has the  
  data
asked
   or if
   there is an error it returns an empty string and the  
  status_log
   is
   informed
   so...
   Phil
  
   Le Lundi 28 Novembre 2005 18:18, Youness Alaoui a écrit:
   it looks like the anonymous CVS is not yet synchronised  
  with
   the
devel
   CVS, maybe you should wait a few hours (I think it's  
  updated on
the
   website every 3 hours)
   but anyways, from what I saw, I think Phil should look at
   this...
   Phil, look at the sock8 and 9, 9 is successful, 8 we're  
  still
reading,
   then nbread fails because we closed the socket, and I don't
   know
what
   happens but we do a conenction failed.. I don't thin kit
   bothers
us,
 
  but
 
   anyways, we received an invalid data there... I don't know  
  if
it's
   normal
   or not... it looks like in ASCII, it's
   V  but I need the whole string, maybe it will help...  
  that's
why I'm
   waiting for him to update the CVS andretry...
   you're the one who did the nbread, maybe you know more  
  than me
about
 
  how
 
   it works.. if it's not because of nbread, I'll also take a  
  look
at
   this tonight..
  
  
   KaKaRoTo
  
   On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:25:32 

Re: [Amsn-devel] Amsn serious connection problem

2005-11-30 Thread Harry Vennik
I think the best you can do is getting a new version of aMSN. Version 0.95 is 
to be released very soon, so maybe just wait for that. Otherwise you can try 
latest cvs version, which will differ from the 0.95 version only in very 
small details.

If the problem remains with the new version, you can report again.

Op woensdag 30 november 2005 19:21, schreef Sam Abou Sawan:
 Hello, i am having a big problem with my amsn, that is about 1 or 2 years
 old. I am on a slow connection, about 4K/s so sometimes my connection to
 the msn server takes about 2-3 minutes, and i have lots of contacts. So
 after those 5 minutes of waiting i get connected then suddenly i get
 disconnected and amsn reconnects again and the same thing happens. When i
 try to connect with gaim, i get no problem, but honestly i
 don't want to use anything but amsn.
 Below are the last few lines of my protocol log!

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Re: [Amsn-devel] WEBCAM - MSN 7.5

2005-11-30 Thread Youness Alaoui

I have msn 7.5, who has msn 7.0 (or even 6.2) and can test ?


On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:19:03 -0500, Sander Hoentjen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



remember there are 3 things:
Video Conference: MSN 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0 (netmeeting?)
Webcam: MSN 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0, 7.5 (ole andre :))
Video Conversation: MSN 7.5 (can do fullscreen and stuff)
at least.. if i understand things correctly..
i think you are right about nudge.. so forget about msnc3
what i meant was: what happens if someone with 7.5 start video
conversation with 7.0?
a) 7.0 was already prepared for video conversation and is able to
receive, but not send (don't think so, easy way to know: can 7.0 do
fullscreen?)
b) when 7.5  7.0: 7.5 doesn't have the option for video conversation.
This would mean that there is something in clientid or msnc version that
reveals it (or some other unknown way?).
c) 7.5 tries video conversation, but 7.0 replies it can't do it, 7.5
will get message on screen (maybe) that tells user that other partie has
a version that is too old, and 7.0 will get a message telling to
upgrade?
d) something else

On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 12:05 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:

ok,
I think msn 7.0 does video conferencing, so I don't think it replies
something different... we can try and see how msn 6.2 reacts though..  
but
I don't think it will give us anything.. whether it supports it, then  
it's

all good, or it doesn't, in which case, msn 7.5 won't send a video
conference invitation (because of msnc3).
If we use msnc3, it might work good, BUT, do we really want to do this ?
we might loose a lot of things, like maybe Nudge ? I don't think it's
supported in msnc3... what else is specific to msnc4 ?

KaKaRoTo

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:57:59 -0500, Sander Hoentjen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 MSNC3 = MSN Msgr 6.2
 MSNC4 = MSN Msgr 7.0
 MSNC5 = MSN Msgr 7.5

 so.. can 7.0 receive video conversation? If not, how does it reply to  
an

 invitation from 7.5 for that? I really don't have the time to install
 windows and check it out myself.

 On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 08:54 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 msnc3 has limited things, like for example, no XXX feature...
 where XXX could be anything.. maybe msnc3 doesn't have the whole  
msnp2p

 thing!

 On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:49:39 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Le 05-11-30 à 05:15, Sander Hoentjen a écrit :
 
  Well.. I looked at the code, and I couldn't find anywhere where  
the
  webcam bit was set. It should be set in the webcamwizard, i  
grepped

  for
  it but couldn't find. Is it set somewhere?
  It was supossed to be in the webcam assistant but we delayed it so  
no

  it's not in the webcam wizard neither
  Maybe setting it will fix things, otherwise try changing
  config.tcl:620: ::MSN::setClientCap msnc4
  to :MSN::setClientCap msnc3
  but that is a long shot
 
  Yeah that's the only place we declare it.
 
  Why do you say it's a long shot? What is supose to be the  
difference

  betwen msnc3 and msnc4?






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Re: [Amsn-devel] Fwd: [ amsn-Patches-1208242 ] A fix for global alarms

2005-11-30 Thread Le Philousophe - Phil
Too late for now it will be for tomorrow if you leave me enough time...
About debian packaging I advanced well this evening I hope to finish tomorrow 
too
Phil

Le Mercredi 30 Novembre 2005 22:02, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
 hehe, relax Phil, don't get too excited.
 Thanks for working on this so fast, I guess you can commit it, but make
 sure it works first, try setting different alarms, and the global alarm,
 none should be broken.
 If after a few tests (15minutes, don't waste the whole day on this :P),
 you can commit it.
 Thanks again.

 KaKaRoTo

 On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:02:22 -0500, Le Philousophe - Phil

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey,
  I had this bug assigned to me !!
  I did the patch on my local copy !
  Can I commit it ??
  Youness I need a fast reply !!
  Phil
 
  --  Message transmis  --
 
  Patches item #1208242, was opened at 2005-05-24 22:03
  Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by kakaroto
  You can respond by visiting:
  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=472657aid=1208242grou
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  thread,
  including the initial issue submission, for this request,
  not just the latest update.
  Category: Runtime
  Group: CVS
  Status: Open
  Resolution: None
  Priority: 5
  Submitted By: Steve (steve_herrell)
 
  Assigned to: Le Philousophe - Phil (lephilousophe)
 
  Summary: A fix for global alarms
 
  Initial Comment:
 
  Global alarms was not working correctly. It would check
  the configuration of user all but would pass the user
  generating the alarm to run_alarms.
 
  This patch makes run_alarm take another parameter, the
  configuration entry handling the alarm.
 
 
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Re: [Amsn-devel] cam2mpeg

2005-11-30 Thread Youness Alaoui

ok..
anyways, I'll try to make a binary of it that works... or at least, I hope  
so, if you find someone with knowledge of C programming and avcodec, I can  
give him the file I have and let him play with it until it works...

for now, it's on standby...

KaKaRoTo

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:45:46 -0500, Alvaro J. Iradier [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



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If it doesn't work, then no  need to get it. It's just a user asked me
about a way to convert .cam files to some video format.

Greets.

Youness Alaoui wrote:

on my system :P

it's outdated, it uses the old libmimdec API instead of the new
libmimic  API, so it doesn't work, I need to modify it, but we said we
should wait  for 0.95 and provide it as a plugin or something...

do you want me to send it to you even if it doesn't work and you'll try
to  fix it or can you wait until I fix it ?

KaKaRoTo

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:18:28 -0500, Alvaro J. Iradier
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


Hi, some days ago you talked about a script named cam2mpeg. Where can
it be found?

Thanks.








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Re: [Amsn-devel] WEBCAM - MSN 7.5

2005-11-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
Sander wanted to test, and it seems msn 6.2 doesn't connect, it says a  
new version is available, you HAVE to upgrade to continue..


question is closed...
suggestion is now : when we get video conversation request, we decline it  
and we answer with a new invite for the other user to send his cam...


KaKaRoTo

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:01:00 -0500, Youness Alaoui  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:45:49 -0500, Harry Vennik [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Op woensdag 30 november 2005 20:41, schreef Youness Alaoui:

Hey Boris,
sending webcam is not a problem, the problem is when the user from msn  
7.5

send you a video invitation, it's not a webcam invitation, it's a
webcam conversation invitation.. we try to find out how we can make  
it
work without telling the user no, don't click on the Webcam button,  
but

click on the menu actions-video/audio-send my webcam
Aren't you messing up the sending and receiving of webcam from/to  
MSN7.5?
Doing this will make MSN7.5 send. What Boris says is all about getting  
it to

receive from aMSN isn't it?



yes, Boris talked about getting it to receive from aMSN, but we ALWAYS  
were able to send from amsn to msn 7.5.. the only problem was the invite  
that we get from msn 7.5...



.. we want to find
a way to tell msn 7.5 client that we do not support video conversation  
but

we only support webcam...
about ink, what did you do ? something special ? the normal send ink  
proc
? did you need to modify the clientid ? without modifying it, did it  
work ?

thnx

KaKaRoTo


On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:01:29 -0500, Boris Faure (billiob)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've just succeed in sending webcam to a msn 7.5.0311 !
 And by the way, i manage to send an ink to this guy !
 my client id : 1073741860

 2005/11/30, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I have msn 7.5, who has msn 7.0 (or even 6.2) and can test ?


 On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:19:03 -0500, Sander Hoentjen  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 wrote:
  remember there are 3 things:
  Video Conference: MSN 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0 (netmeeting?)
  Webcam: MSN 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0, 7.5 (ole andre :))
  Video Conversation: MSN 7.5 (can do fullscreen and stuff)
  at least.. if i understand things correctly..
  i think you are right about nudge.. so forget about msnc3
  what i meant was: what happens if someone with 7.5 start video
  conversation with 7.0?
  a) 7.0 was already prepared for video conversation and is able to
  receive, but not send (don't think so, easy way to know: can 7.0  
do

  fullscreen?)
  b) when 7.5  7.0: 7.5 doesn't have the option for video

 conversation.

  This would mean that there is something in clientid or msnc  
version


 that

  reveals it (or some other unknown way?).
  c) 7.5 tries video conversation, but 7.0 replies it can't do it,  
7.5
  will get message on screen (maybe) that tells user that other  
partie


 has

  a version that is too old, and 7.0 will get a message telling to
  upgrade?
  d) something else
 
  On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 12:05 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
  ok,
  I think msn 7.0 does video conferencing, so I don't think it  
replies
  something different... we can try and see how msn 6.2 reacts  
though..

  but
  I don't think it will give us anything.. whether it supports it,  
then

  it's
  all good, or it doesn't, in which case, msn 7.5 won't send a  
video

  conference invitation (because of msnc3).
  If we use msnc3, it might work good, BUT, do we really want to do

 this ?

  we might loose a lot of things, like maybe Nudge ? I don't think  
it's

  supported in msnc3... what else is specific to msnc4 ?
 
  KaKaRoTo
 
  On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:57:59 -0500, Sander Hoentjen

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  wrote:
   MSNC3 = MSN Msgr 6.2
   MSNC4 = MSN Msgr 7.0
   MSNC5 = MSN Msgr 7.5
  
   so.. can 7.0 receive video conversation? If not, how does it  
reply


 to

  an
 
   invitation from 7.5 for that? I really don't have the time to

 install

   windows and check it out myself.
  
   On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 08:54 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
   msnc3 has limited things, like for example, no XXX feature...
   where XXX could be anything.. maybe msnc3 doesn't have the  
whole

 
  msnp2p
 
   thing!
  
   On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:49:39 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le 05-11-30 à 05:15, Sander Hoentjen a écrit :
Well.. I looked at the code, and I couldn't find anywhere  
where

 
  the
 
webcam bit was set. It should be set in the webcamwizard, i
 
  grepped
 
for
it but couldn't find. Is it set somewhere?
   
It was supossed to be in the webcam assistant but we  
delayed it


 so

  no
 
it's not in the webcam wizard neither
   
Maybe setting it will fix things, otherwise try changing
config.tcl:620: ::MSN::setClientCap msnc4
to :MSN::setClientCap msnc3
but that is a long shot
   
Yeah that's the only place we declare it.
   
Why do you say it's a long shot? What is supose to be the
 
  difference
 

Re: [Amsn-devel] Amsn serious connection problem

2005-11-30 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Youness Alaoui wrote:

 I know someone who had similars problems (impossible to connect) with the
 official MSN client, on a slow connection, and it was due to his enormous
 contact list, the time it takes for the list to be loaded made the server
 cancel the connection...

I don't think so, Sam said (s)he has no problems connecting with GAIM, but 
it could be.

 maybe you should make sure you have 40- contacts if your connection is that
 bad...

I have 56 contacts (no extra users on allow/block lists), and it works 
perfectly at even 1KB/sec. I don't know how it would behave with many more 
contacts and 4KB/sec, but it doesn't seem to be the only problem.

Vivia


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Re: [Amsn-devel] WEBCAM - MSN 7.5

2005-11-30 Thread Ole André Vadla Ravnås
I second that! :)On 11/30/05, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excellent idea, I agreeLe 05-11-30 à 16:38, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
Sander
wanted to test, and it seems msn 6.2 doesn't connect, it says a new
version is available, you HAVE to upgrade to continue.. 
 
question is closed... 
suggestion
is now : when we get video conversation request, we decline it and we
answer with a new invite for the other user to send his cam... 



Re: [Amsn-devel] updated TODO in wiki

2005-11-30 Thread Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer

Yes? What's that for?
Le 05-11-30 à 19:25, Youness Alaoui a écrit :

http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-pagehistory.php? 
page=NextReleaseTODOdiff2=95


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Re: [Amsn-devel] updated TODO in wiki

2005-11-30 Thread Youness Alaoui
arghh.. can't even be lazy!!! for the first time my email wasn't huge, you  
had to complain? :P
well, I just kind of updated the TODO list in the wiki, I removed some of  
the things I remember were done, some other things, I'm not sure, so I  
kept them as they are.
I also added in priority 3, a new feature request that I always wanted to  
have :
show cached display pictures PER user.. sometimes, you want to see which  
DP someone had for the last month or so, and it could be troublesome to  
use the current way.. I have 1000+ cached DP, if I enable viewing them, I  
get a 5 minutes or more lag at 100% cpu, when it's done, I have to go  
search through the whole list for the user I wanted to see (thank god it's  
sorted per user)... and if it's someone who had only 2 or 3 DPs, it would  
be much more efficient to right click on his name in the CL, and click on  
view this contact's display pictures's history


KaKaRoTo

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:35:29 -0500, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Yes? What's that for?
Le 05-11-30 à 19:25, Youness Alaoui a écrit :

http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-pagehistory.php? 
page=NextReleaseTODOdiff2=95


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Re: [Amsn-devel] clearing trackers ??

2005-11-30 Thread Karol Krizka
On Sunday 27 November 2005 16:34, Youness Alaoui wrote:
 I suggest trac only, have roadmaps, timelines, whatever.. yeah, a
 milestone with tickets, the tickets being the TODO list..

I started playing with trac on sf.net servers and I think I have all the 
requirements needed installed. But it wants to write some files (sqlite db) 
and /tmp/persistent/amsn, the only place the webserver can write, is not 
accessible by me. Alvaro, could you please change the group to amsn and give 
it write persmissions?
 KaKaRoTo

 On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:54:34 -0500, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ok, we must decide... do we want a:
 
  1) 0.95.1 TODO, similar to what I mailed to the list a while back
  (0.95RC1, RC2 TODO), which would be updated via email
 
  2) tracker (sourceforge or trac)
 
  3) wiki 0.95.1TODO
 
  We only need 1 place for this... not 3 places.  It seems that past
  problems have been having the same information in many different
  places.  That doesn't work.  We need 1 location to look to for a
  specific item such as a TODO list.
 
  ~Lee
 
  On 11/27/05, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  yeah, you're right, that's what I'm doing now, cleaning the trackers,
  but
  only bugs... assigning them to people too.. but I think that we'll just
  have to release 0.95 like this... the idea of 0.95 was lately that we
  would release a buggy release, an incomplete release, but that all we
  wanted to put in 0.95 and never had the time to do it would go into
  0.95.1
  ..
  I'll try to finish this thing up before I get back to my 'chores'
 
  KaKaRoTo
 
  On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:13:01 -0500, Karol Krizka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  wrote:
   On Sunday 27 November 2005 13:04, Youness Alaoui wrote:
   Hi,
   do you think we should clear trackers before the release ?
   what I mean by clear trackers is fix what's said in the trackers
 
  or do
 
   you still suggest the feature freeze and don't do anything...
   It's just that :
 
  http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1177716group_i
 d=5
 
   4091atid=472657
  
   it's an interesting feature and we talked about it so much.. I'm not
   sure
   if we can skip it for 0.95...
  
   maybe we should open a wiki page for 0.95.1 TODO and add this there
 
  from
 
   now on...
  
   We have to respect the feature freeze, it's there for a reason. We
 
  could
 
   clean
   out the tracker by fixing the bugs only and moving the feature
 
  requests
 
   to
   the feature tracker.
 
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