Re: [Amsn-devel] WIKI
Isn't it possible to set up apache such that the URLs http://amsn- project.net/wiki/index.php/SVN and http://amsn-project.net/wiki/SVN mean the same? I don't know much about MediaWiki, but I set up a wiki with MoinMoin recently. The /wiki/ is an alias there. If that's the same with MediaWiki, I think you can setup /wiki/index.php/ to be an alias that translates to the same thing. Otherwise a rewrite rule might do the trick. Op 31-dec-2006, om 8:31 heeft Youness Alaoui het volgende geschreven: fuck.. this means 0.96 users can't access the wiki from amsn now... is it critical ? we can fix it with 0.96.1 ? KKRT On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 02:22:48AM -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote: Hello, just to announce that I finally got the amsn blootbot IRC bot back up and running.. This means that the [TODO] and all that stuff can now be used again.. for the logs and for the stats and the TODO-LIST, you can find it at http://amsn-project.net/~blootbot I'd need some of your help to fix all the factoids.. they all point to the old urls, etc... I fixed some.. and realized we had a bad way of naming wiki pages, ie. http://amsn- project.net/wiki/index.php/SVN so I played a bit with apache and made it shorter as ie. http://amsn-project.net/ wiki/SVN I also changed some of the links in the website... So I just wanted to tell you to watch out for this new naming of the wiki URLs. Also, if any of you find other wrong urls to the wiki (maybe on svn? I didn't check),then please fix those. thanks :) KaKaRoTo - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- --- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php? page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] WIKI
fuck.. this means 0.96 users can't access the wiki from amsn now... is it critical ? we can fix it with 0.96.1 ? KKRT On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 02:22:48AM -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote: Hello, just to announce that I finally got the amsn blootbot IRC bot back up and running.. This means that the [TODO] and all that stuff can now be used again.. for the logs and for the stats and the TODO-LIST, you can find it at http://amsn-project.net/~blootbot I'd need some of your help to fix all the factoids.. they all point to the old urls, etc... I fixed some.. and realized we had a bad way of naming wiki pages, ie. http://amsn-project.net/wiki/index.php/SVN so I played a bit with apache and made it shorter as ie. http://amsn-project.net/wiki/SVN I also changed some of the links in the website... So I just wanted to tell you to watch out for this new naming of the wiki URLs. Also, if any of you find other wrong urls to the wiki (maybe on svn? I didn't check),then please fix those. thanks :) KaKaRoTo - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Youness Alaoui wrote: another wiki cleaning to do (maybe for GrdScarabe) : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Webcam+In+aMSN#test this talks about the test.tcl file and we had reports about 'the file doesn't exist', I guess we should add that to get that file, you must download the source package, not the binary package. also, the output is from the nong capture extension, now nong was removed so we should show the output from libng... done ... a bit late :) - -- GrdScarabe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEjK2SPmfsnt4Id3wRAleIAKDWEqngZTlEyoCcUI7OQK0wRSEpHQCgg+yS 6rXav54L5qnrbf1UVqY+lQc= =07GQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
On Wed, 03 May 2006 15:45:48 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Wed, 03 May 2006 14:07:22 -0400, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took a look at the wiki and realized that some areas are quite outdated. For example: the Next Release TODO, in our case (0.96). http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=NextReleaseTODO Hi Lee, thanks for taking the time to look at this. If I remember correctly, Vivia already took good care of the TODO, it is up to date in the wiki afaik, anything in there are real bugs/feats that we 'might want' to implement some day, some of them won't be implemented because they are low pri or we have no clue on how to fix them... The wiki page is named Next Release TODO, which is wrong, it should instead be an Overal TODO list... I took care of it to just remove DONE things. That is a huge TODO list though, and I'm not sure we want all this stuff to be done. I just can't start removing stuff without asking anyone. How about each one of us adding an asterisk on items that they'd like to be removed? (No cheating, no adding 5 asterisks :P just discuss the reason why you'd LOVE to see that item gone in the ML!) hello, yes, it's a huge TODO list, but it's a TODO (as in 'things to do') not a MUDO(as in 'must do' :D) I don't think we should remove anything.. any new idea, or bug to be fixed should be in that TODO, they should be removed only if : 1 - they are fixed 2 - they became invalid (example, 'add option to configure linphone port..') if not one of these 2 reasons, we should keep them, maybe in 100 years, we'll have no work (or our grandchildren) or we'll have 100 devels working full time, and we'll need to add new feats!, oh, there's the TODO, it had tons of new feature suggestions, great ideas, stuff that we never had the time to do, and then, our grandchildren will say damn, vivia removed them and they'll all turn to vivia's grandchildren and beat them up :D It's also a good idea to move GUI tweaks to winskin! GUI tweaks as in ? give me an example... also, winskin plugin.. maybe it should be renamed... Do we need to keep any of this? If so, we can just add it to the 0.96 TODO. Also, how are we going to deal with the TODO? I know there's an IRC TODO, the wiki TODO, a TODO file included with aMSN. The IRC TODO is a good idea and I see there is a link to it from the wiki, KaKaRoTo, is this TODO-list automatically updated? It is indeed problematic since none of us ever had the time/motivation to build a 0.96 TODO... we have a lot of TODO items, but we needed to select which ones are high pri enough for next release.. now the TODO is almost closed, because of the proxy bugs, we need 0.96 out of the doors asap, if it weren't for small bugs that still keep popping up, vivia was supposed to release 0.96 last week (I annouced that last time...) Me? Release 0.96? No offence, but m9awda allik :P [*] Not only I am no amsn admin, I am also the newest team member!! yo, you're the one m9awda allik, I think there is a small misunderstanding here, I never said YOU would release it, calm down girl, you have no power in the chain of command here :P what I meant was that you were supposed to determine when the release is 'ready' and launch the release processes (we need to create packages, upload them, wait 1 week for the sync, etc...), and don't forget... there WILL be an RC1 this time... I was supposed to add tls 1.5 available for download, which needs testing first, and I really should have done that. But... to release 0.96... not really :P Besides, we can't release until we are 100% sure that these new webcam features work OK (don't forget we still can't pause when using reflector, and I dunno how to do these modifications you talked about!) which is why we'll have an RC1... and about tls1.5.. what's the prob ? you need to add the binary packages for the different platforms (unix, windows, x64, mac) and change the autodownloadfer for tls... what is the rpbolem ?(don't forget to change the package ifneeded from 1.5 to 1.50 in case users have tcl/tk 8.5)... [*] really, REALLY j/k, i don't mean it :) I know, don't worry, it might be vulgar, but in this case it means nothing more than 'you're crazy', so no need to 'REALY j/k ;) the TODO file included with aMSN is not to be used anymore I think, look at the CVS history, I think it's been 2years since the last time that file got updated... it's nowhere need up to date.. and I think the original TODO page in the wiki was created by copying the content of that TODO file, so I don't think we can miss anything from it, but I wouldn't mind a double check on that... I think the best way is to delete its content and simply paste the link to the wiki in it, in case someone reads it, at least he'll get the correct info... good idea (Y) but then the wiki page also needs a link to the tracker (Ouch,
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
great! perfectly what I would have wanted... maybe the name of the page should have been 'grandhcildrenTODO' :p lol, just kidding ;) now we need to keep updating it, moving stuff to the overall todo, moving stuff from that todo to the 'next release todo' everytime we release something (set new goals everytime) and we got ourselves a little bit more of an organization :) thx Lee KKRT On Wed, 03 May 2006 16:08:16 -0400, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've moved everything from the old NextReleaseTODO wiki page to the new OverallTODO wiki page : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=OverallTODO You can also find a link to it from the main wiki page. Please take a few minutes to browse it and mark everything that needs to be removed with an asterisk as Vivia mentioned, or leave a note so I know what to move to the future TODO. Thanks, ~Lee On 5/3/06, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Wed, 03 May 2006 14:07:22 -0400, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took a look at the wiki and realized that some areas are quite outdated. For example: the Next Release TODO, in our case (0.96). http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=NextReleaseTODO Hi Lee, thanks for taking the time to look at this. If I remember correctly, Vivia already took good care of the TODO, it is up to date in the wiki afaik, anything in there are real bugs/feats that we 'might want' to implement some day, some of them won't be implemented because they are low pri or we have no clue on how to fix them... The wiki page is named Next Release TODO, which is wrong, it should instead be an Overal TODO list... I took care of it to just remove DONE things. That is a huge TODO list though, and I'm not sure we want all this stuff to be done. I just can't start removing stuff without asking anyone. How about each one of us adding an asterisk on items that they'd like to be removed? (No cheating, no adding 5 asterisks :P just discuss the reason why you'd LOVE to see that item gone in the ML!) It's also a good idea to move GUI tweaks to winskin! Do we need to keep any of this? If so, we can just add it to the 0.96 TODO. Also, how are we going to deal with the TODO? I know there's an IRC TODO, the wiki TODO, a TODO file included with aMSN. The IRC TODO is a good idea and I see there is a link to it from the wiki, KaKaRoTo, is this TODO-list automatically updated? It is indeed problematic since none of us ever had the time/motivation to build a 0.96 TODO... we have a lot of TODO items, but we needed to select which ones are high pri enough for next release.. now the TODO is almost closed, because of the proxy bugs, we need 0.96 out of the doors asap, if it weren't for small bugs that still keep popping up, vivia was supposed to release 0.96 last week (I annouced that last time...) Me? Release 0.96? No offence, but m9awda allik :P [*] Not only I am no amsn admin, I am also the newest team member!! I was supposed to add tls 1.5 available for download, which needs testing first, and I really should have done that. But... to release 0.96... not really :P Besides, we can't release until we are 100% sure that these new webcam features work OK (don't forget we still can't pause when using reflector, and I dunno how to do these modifications you talked about!) [*] really, REALLY j/k, i don't mean it :) the TODO file included with aMSN is not to be used anymore I think, look at the CVS history, I think it's been 2years since the last time that file got updated... it's nowhere need up to date.. and I think the original TODO page in the wiki was created by copying the content of that TODO file, so I don't think we can miss anything from it, but I wouldn't mind a double check on that... I think the best way is to delete its content and simply paste the link to the wiki in it, in case someone reads it, at least he'll get the correct info... good idea (Y) but then the wiki page also needs a link to the tracker (Ouch, that's also outdated) about the IRC todo, yes, it is updated everyday (at 7:30 PM eastern time), I don't want it to be known by users because they might find out how it works abnd start 'requesting features' through IRC buy using the special tags for the script.. which we already had a few times, some users find noone on the channel and they reported the bug or feature using [TODO].. lol, hadn't noticed :) Also, that TODO list is basically for developers I think, it shouldn't be public.. and shouldn't be used as it is, if you look at it, you'll see some stuff marked as [DONE] and others marked as [TASKED], that todo list is there to help the lazy ones to easily add something they have in mind before the connection timesout in their brain... then all the todo items in there are moved to the SF task tracker, some devels were assigned some takss, and they are
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
assuming you finish the exams in 1 week, then make it 2 weeks, u also need to rest, ok ? ;) On Wed, 03 May 2006 19:00:57 -0400, GrdScarabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Lee, I'm not completly done with my finals yet ... but in one week or two I'll be free to start reorganizing the wiki. GrdScarabe Lee Olson wrote: I've moved everything from the old NextReleaseTODO wiki page to the new OverallTODO wiki page : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=OverallTODO You can also find a link to it from the main wiki page. Please take a few minutes to browse it and mark everything that needs to be removed with an asterisk as Vivia mentioned, or leave a note so I know what to move to the future TODO. Thanks, ~Lee On 5/3/06, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Wed, 03 May 2006 14:07:22 -0400, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took a look at the wiki and realized that some areas are quite outdated. For example: the Next Release TODO, in our case (0.96). http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=NextReleaseTODO Hi Lee, thanks for taking the time to look at this. If I remember correctly, Vivia already took good care of the TODO, it is up to date in the wiki afaik, anything in there are real bugs/feats that we 'might want' to implement some day, some of them won't be implemented because they are low pri or we have no clue on how to fix them... The wiki page is named Next Release TODO, which is wrong, it should instead be an Overal TODO list... I took care of it to just remove DONE things. That is a huge TODO list though, and I'm not sure we want all this stuff to be done. I just can't start removing stuff without asking anyone. How about each one of us adding an asterisk on items that they'd like to be removed? (No cheating, no adding 5 asterisks :P just discuss the reason why you'd LOVE to see that item gone in the ML!) It's also a good idea to move GUI tweaks to winskin! Do we need to keep any of this? If so, we can just add it to the 0.96 TODO. Also, how are we going to deal with the TODO? I know there's an IRC TODO, the wiki TODO, a TODO file included with aMSN. The IRC TODO is a good idea and I see there is a link to it from the wiki, KaKaRoTo, is this TODO-list automatically updated? It is indeed problematic since none of us ever had the time/motivation to build a 0.96 TODO... we have a lot of TODO items, but we needed to select which ones are high pri enough for next release.. now the TODO is almost closed, because of the proxy bugs, we need 0.96 out of the doors asap, if it weren't for small bugs that still keep popping up, vivia was supposed to release 0.96 last week (I annouced that last time...) Me? Release 0.96? No offence, but m9awda allik :P [*] Not only I am no amsn admin, I am also the newest team member!! I was supposed to add tls 1.5 available for download, which needs testing first, and I really should have done that. But... to release 0.96... not really :P Besides, we can't release until we are 100% sure that these new webcam features work OK (don't forget we still can't pause when using reflector, and I dunno how to do these modifications you talked about!) [*] really, REALLY j/k, i don't mean it :) the TODO file included with aMSN is not to be used anymore I think, look at the CVS history, I think it's been 2years since the last time that file got updated... it's nowhere need up to date.. and I think the original TODO page in the wiki was created by copying the content of that TODO file, so I don't think we can miss anything from it, but I wouldn't mind a double check on that... I think the best way is to delete its content and simply paste the link to the wiki in it, in case someone reads it, at least he'll get the correct info... good idea (Y) but then the wiki page also needs a link to the tracker (Ouch, that's also outdated) about the IRC todo, yes, it is updated everyday (at 7:30 PM eastern time), I don't want it to be known by users because they might find out how it works abnd start 'requesting features' through IRC buy using the special tags for the script.. which we already had a few times, some users find noone on the channel and they reported the bug or feature using [TODO].. lol, hadn't noticed :) Also, that TODO list is basically for developers I think, it shouldn't be public.. and shouldn't be used as it is, if you look at it, you'll see some stuff marked as [DONE] and others marked as [TASKED], that todo list is there to help the lazy ones to easily add something they have in mind before the connection timesout in their brain... then all the todo items in there are moved to the SF task tracker, some devels were assigned some takss, and they are working on it in there and it seems to go well this way. I think we should : 1 - either move
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
On Thu, 4 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Wed, 03 May 2006 15:45:48 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Wed, 03 May 2006 14:07:22 -0400, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took a look at the wiki and realized that some areas are quite outdated. For example: the Next Release TODO, in our case (0.96). http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=NextReleaseTODO Hi Lee, thanks for taking the time to look at this. If I remember correctly, Vivia already took good care of the TODO, it is up to date in the wiki afaik, anything in there are real bugs/feats that we 'might want' to implement some day, some of them won't be implemented because they are low pri or we have no clue on how to fix them... The wiki page is named Next Release TODO, which is wrong, it should instead be an Overal TODO list... I took care of it to just remove DONE things. That is a huge TODO list though, and I'm not sure we want all this stuff to be done. I just can't start removing stuff without asking anyone. How about each one of us adding an asterisk on items that they'd like to be removed? (No cheating, no adding 5 asterisks :P just discuss the reason why you'd LOVE to see that item gone in the ML!) hello, yes, it's a huge TODO list, but it's a TODO (as in 'things to do') not a MUDO(as in 'must do' :D) I don't think we should remove anything.. any new idea, or bug to be fixed should be in that TODO, they should be removed only if : 1 - they are fixed 2 - they became invalid (example, 'add option to configure linphone port..') if not one of these 2 reasons, we should keep them, maybe in 100 years, we'll have no work (or our grandchildren) or we'll have 100 devels working full time, and we'll need to add new feats!, oh, there's the TODO, it had tons of new feature suggestions, great ideas, stuff that we never had the time to do, and then, our grandchildren will say damn, vivia removed them and they'll all turn to vivia's grandchildren and beat them up :D lol, ok ok :D so no wiki asterisks then :) It's also a good idea to move GUI tweaks to winskin! GUI tweaks as in ? give me an example... also, winskin plugin.. maybe it should be renamed... hide/show button bar in chatwindows. recnt example :) It is indeed problematic since none of us ever had the time/motivation to build a 0.96 TODO... we have a lot of TODO items, but we needed to select which ones are high pri enough for next release.. now the TODO is almost closed, because of the proxy bugs, we need 0.96 out of the doors asap, if it weren't for small bugs that still keep popping up, vivia was supposed to release 0.96 last week (I annouced that last time...) Me? Release 0.96? No offence, but m9awda allik :P [*] Not only I am no amsn admin, I am also the newest team member!! yo, you're the one m9awda allik, I think there is a small misunderstanding here, I never said YOU would release it, calm down girl, you have no power in the chain of command here :P what I meant was that you were supposed to determine when the release is 'ready' and launch the release processes (we need to create packages, upload them, wait 1 week for the sync, etc...), and don't forget... there WILL be an RC1 this time... Well, excuse me, but you said Vivia was supposed to release 0.96 - huh? what? Anyway, it's still NOT ready, reflector+pause still doesn't work... I could just try to blindly assume it works the same as non-reflector and test if MSN accepts it, but I didn't understand what you wanted to change :P Besides, I think there were still some bugs, I just don't remember them - I don't feel like coding lately as you might have noticed so I lost track on the TODO. Is the pause issue the last one? I was supposed to add tls 1.5 available for download, which needs testing first, and I really should have done that. But... to release 0.96... not really :P Besides, we can't release until we are 100% sure that these new webcam features work OK (don't forget we still can't pause when using reflector, and I dunno how to do these modifications you talked about!) which is why we'll have an RC1... and about tls1.5.. what's the prob ? you need to add the binary packages for the different platforms (unix, windows, x64, mac) and change the autodownloadfer for tls... what is the rpbolem ?(don't forget to change the package ifneeded from 1.5 to 1.50 in case users have tcl/tk 8.5)... Yes. I just need to DO all that and I'm boored :( [*] really, REALLY j/k, i don't mean it :) I know, don't worry, it might be vulgar, but in this case it means nothing more than 'you're crazy', so no need to 'REALY j/k ;) Yes, if it was PM I wouldn't worry, but I don't know who will read this, and if they will really know arabic or half-know and start asking and come up
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
On Thu, 04 May 2006 11:07:54 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 4 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Wed, 03 May 2006 15:45:48 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Wed, 03 May 2006 14:07:22 -0400, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took a look at the wiki and realized that some areas are quite outdated. For example: the Next Release TODO, in our case (0.96). http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=NextReleaseTODO Hi Lee, thanks for taking the time to look at this. If I remember correctly, Vivia already took good care of the TODO, it is up to date in the wiki afaik, anything in there are real bugs/feats that we 'might want' to implement some day, some of them won't be implemented because they are low pri or we have no clue on how to fix them... The wiki page is named Next Release TODO, which is wrong, it should instead be an Overal TODO list... I took care of it to just remove DONE things. That is a huge TODO list though, and I'm not sure we want all this stuff to be done. I just can't start removing stuff without asking anyone. How about each one of us adding an asterisk on items that they'd like to be removed? (No cheating, no adding 5 asterisks :P just discuss the reason why you'd LOVE to see that item gone in the ML!) hello, yes, it's a huge TODO list, but it's a TODO (as in 'things to do') not a MUDO(as in 'must do' :D) I don't think we should remove anything.. any new idea, or bug to be fixed should be in that TODO, they should be removed only if : 1 - they are fixed 2 - they became invalid (example, 'add option to configure linphone port..') if not one of these 2 reasons, we should keep them, maybe in 100 years, we'll have no work (or our grandchildren) or we'll have 100 devels working full time, and we'll need to add new feats!, oh, there's the TODO, it had tons of new feature suggestions, great ideas, stuff that we never had the time to do, and then, our grandchildren will say damn, vivia removed them and they'll all turn to vivia's grandchildren and beat them up :D lol, ok ok :D so no wiki asterisks then :) It's also a good idea to move GUI tweaks to winskin! GUI tweaks as in ? give me an example... also, winskin plugin.. maybe it should be renamed... hide/show button bar in chatwindows. recnt example :) oh, yeah, sure.. GUI tweaks like that, for sure! It is indeed problematic since none of us ever had the time/motivation to build a 0.96 TODO... we have a lot of TODO items, but we needed to select which ones are high pri enough for next release.. now the TODO is almost closed, because of the proxy bugs, we need 0.96 out of the doors asap, if it weren't for small bugs that still keep popping up, vivia was supposed to release 0.96 last week (I annouced that last time...) Me? Release 0.96? No offence, but m9awda allik :P [*] Not only I am no amsn admin, I am also the newest team member!! yo, you're the one m9awda allik, I think there is a small misunderstanding here, I never said YOU would release it, calm down girl, you have no power in the chain of command here :P what I meant was that you were supposed to determine when the release is 'ready' and launch the release processes (we need to create packages, upload them, wait 1 week for the sync, etc...), and don't forget... there WILL be an RC1 this time... Well, excuse me, but you said Vivia was supposed to release 0.96 - huh? what? Anyway, it's still NOT ready, reflector+pause still doesn't work... I could just try to blindly assume it works the same as non-reflector and test if MSN accepts it, but I didn't understand what you wanted to change :P hehe, yeah, I said a misunderstanding.. anyways, i know it's not ready yet, but could you still check the TODO list and see if all that remains are only bugfixes and no new feats are to be added in ? I know the 0.96 release was speed up because of the proxy issues, but we should make sure we don't miss anything. about reflector/pause, I say it's not an issue, it doesn't bug if you press the pause button, it just won't do anything.. but yeah, people will be annoyed.. I think you must do the test)_webcam_reflector 1, launch webcam with reflector with an msn 7.5 user, and ask him to press pause... see what happens (add puts in case TSP_RECEIVE to see what is received exactly... ) if you don't understand it, I'll do it this weekend, I'll have time the weekend.. Besides, I think there were still some bugs, I just don't remember them - I don't feel like coding lately as you might have noticed so I lost track on the TODO. Is the pause issue the last one? yes, an RC release is a release with bugs.. so if we know there are bugs we can still release the RC1 and fix bugs we know about until we receive new ones... I was supposed to add tls 1.5 available for download, which needs
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
hehe, yeah, I said a misunderstanding.. anyways, i know it's not ready yet, but could you still check the TODO list and see if all that remains are only bugfixes and no new feats are to be added in ? which TODO now? and why should it contain only bugfixes and no new feats? maybe you meant the opposite??? I know the 0.96 release was speed up because of the proxy issues, but we should make sure we don't miss anything. about reflector/pause, I say it's not an issue, it doesn't bug if you press the pause button, it just won't do anything.. but yeah, people will be annoyed.. I think you must do the test)_webcam_reflector 1, launch webcam with reflector with an msn 7.5 user, and ask him to press pause... see what happens (add puts in case TSP_RECEIVE to see what is received exactly... ) if you don't understand it, I'll do it this weekend, I'll have time the weekend.. I don't understand it :D besides I'm VERY busy until next Tuesday, and I'm absolutely not in a working mood, so if I do find some, I'll spend it on my work and not aMSN. Unless it's sth that needs 10 minutes, like the FT thing before. yes, an RC release is a release with bugs.. so if we know there are bugs we can still release the RC1 and fix bugs we know about until we receive new ones... Sure. Then we release RC1 as soon as you do the webcam_paused thing! which is why we'll have an RC1... and about tls1.5.. what's the prob ? you need to add the binary packages for the different platforms (unix, windows, x64, mac) and change the autodownloadfer for tls... what is the rpbolem ?(don't forget to change the package ifneeded from 1.5 to 1.50 in case users have tcl/tk 8.5)... Yes. I just need to DO all that and I'm boored :( you're bored, so it means it won't bother you to do it :p read above :D about the IRC todo, yes, it is updated everyday (at 7:30 PM eastern time), I don't want it to be known by users because they might find out how it works abnd start 'requesting features' through IRC buy using the special tags for the script.. which we already had a few times, some users find noone on the channel and they reported the bug or feature using [TODO].. lol, hadn't noticed :) yes you did, I saw you chatting with the user when he was [TODO]ing the bot :@ Just ONE user ONCE, I gave him my permission to do it because I was too lazy to form a sentence that would describe the problem and I also warned to not do it generally. It wasn't find noone on the channel. that's all for now i guess.. :) you lazy girl.. :p yeah, but he's not the only one, there are 2 or 3 who did it, one was with you, another one I've been trying to track him down to yell at him, but he was always idling when I was there.. and he did it when noone was on the channel (can't remember who, I deleted his thing from the todo list as it was stupid as hell. Error in Youness paragraph: missing ) this is what i meant, i know about the one i gave the permission to, i didn't know about the others just adding stuff! BTW you added some TODO items lately, can you check which are DONE? Last time I checked I didn't really know... Viv --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
On Thu, 04 May 2006 11:58:48 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehe, yeah, I said a misunderstanding.. anyways, i know it's not ready yet, but could you still check the TODO list and see if all that remains are only bugfixes and no new feats are to be added in ? which TODO now? and why should it contain only bugfixes and no new feats? maybe you meant the opposite??? euhh.. task and wiki TODO, and since you're a devel, also see if new items were added to the IRc TODO... and no, I meant bugfixes and no feats, as in 'can you make sure that all new feats we'd want in 0.96 are done, and only bugfixes remain so we can say that we're ready for RC1 I know the 0.96 release was speed up because of the proxy issues, but we should make sure we don't miss anything. about reflector/pause, I say it's not an issue, it doesn't bug if you press the pause button, it just won't do anything.. but yeah, people will be annoyed.. I think you must do the test)_webcam_reflector 1, launch webcam with reflector with an msn 7.5 user, and ask him to press pause... see what happens (add puts in case TSP_RECEIVE to see what is received exactly... ) if you don't understand it, I'll do it this weekend, I'll have time the weekend.. I don't understand it :D besides I'm VERY busy until next Tuesday, and I'm absolutely not in a working mood, so if I do find some, I'll spend it on my work and not aMSN. Unless it's sth that needs 10 minutes, like the FT thing before. ok, I understand.. this webcam thing is also a 10min thing, but I need to find the strength to do it too.. weekend will be (at last) free, I finished school session, so now I'm on 'holidays' (still working full time though, so half holidays), but I need to relax a bit, take the time to breath, and clean my house, put something in the fridge so I won't hear my echo when I open its door, and ... well, a lot of stuff were pending because of my exams :p!!! yes, an RC release is a release with bugs.. so if we know there are bugs we can still release the RC1 and fix bugs we know about until we receive new ones... Sure. Then we release RC1 as soon as you do the webcam_paused thing! ok, but before, as I said above, make sure indeed, tehre are only bugfixes that separate us from 0.96, if yes, then I'll claim a feature freeze. GUI/menu reorganization would count as new feat... so I leave this matter to Karel to decide what he wants : 1 - revert back the changes before 0.96 2 - keep the current changes for 0.96 but don't add anything until we release 3 - consider menu reorganization as a feature we want to include in 0.96, in which case we'll have to wait for him to finish the new design and to put it all in cvs (I saw work is already done.. ) which is why we'll have an RC1... and about tls1.5.. what's the prob ? you need to add the binary packages for the different platforms (unix, windows, x64, mac) and change the autodownloadfer for tls... what is the rpbolem ?(don't forget to change the package ifneeded from 1.5 to 1.50 in case users have tcl/tk 8.5)... Yes. I just need to DO all that and I'm boored :( you're bored, so it means it won't bother you to do it :p read above :D about the IRC todo, yes, it is updated everyday (at 7:30 PM eastern time), I don't want it to be known by users because they might find out how it works abnd start 'requesting features' through IRC buy using the special tags for the script.. which we already had a few times, some users find noone on the channel and they reported the bug or feature using [TODO].. lol, hadn't noticed :) yes you did, I saw you chatting with the user when he was [TODO]ing the bot :@ Just ONE user ONCE, I gave him my permission to do it because I was too lazy to form a sentence that would describe the problem and I also warned to not do it generally. It wasn't find noone on the channel. that's all for now i guess.. :) you lazy girl.. :p yeah, but he's not the only one, there are 2 or 3 who did it, one was with you, another one I've been trying to track him down to yell at him, but he was always idling when I was there.. and he did it when noone was on the channel (can't remember who, I deleted his thing from the todo list as it was stupid as hell. Error in Youness paragraph: missing ) noo, it will say missing closing bracket won't say if it's a ) } ] this is what i meant, i know about the one i gave the permission to, i didn't know about the others just adding stuff! BTW you added some TODO items lately, can you check which are DONE? Last time I checked I didn't really know... I will see... Viv --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
another wiki cleaning to do (maybe for GrdScarabe) : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Webcam+In+aMSN#test this talks about the test.tcl file and we had reports about 'the file doesn't exist', I guess we should add that to get that file, you must download the source package, not the binary package. also, the output is from the nong capture extension, now nong was removed so we should show the output from libng... KKRT On Thu, 04 May 2006 11:58:48 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehe, yeah, I said a misunderstanding.. anyways, i know it's not ready yet, but could you still check the TODO list and see if all that remains are only bugfixes and no new feats are to be added in ? which TODO now? and why should it contain only bugfixes and no new feats? maybe you meant the opposite??? I know the 0.96 release was speed up because of the proxy issues, but we should make sure we don't miss anything. about reflector/pause, I say it's not an issue, it doesn't bug if you press the pause button, it just won't do anything.. but yeah, people will be annoyed.. I think you must do the test)_webcam_reflector 1, launch webcam with reflector with an msn 7.5 user, and ask him to press pause... see what happens (add puts in case TSP_RECEIVE to see what is received exactly... ) if you don't understand it, I'll do it this weekend, I'll have time the weekend.. I don't understand it :D besides I'm VERY busy until next Tuesday, and I'm absolutely not in a working mood, so if I do find some, I'll spend it on my work and not aMSN. Unless it's sth that needs 10 minutes, like the FT thing before. yes, an RC release is a release with bugs.. so if we know there are bugs we can still release the RC1 and fix bugs we know about until we receive new ones... Sure. Then we release RC1 as soon as you do the webcam_paused thing! which is why we'll have an RC1... and about tls1.5.. what's the prob ? you need to add the binary packages for the different platforms (unix, windows, x64, mac) and change the autodownloadfer for tls... what is the rpbolem ?(don't forget to change the package ifneeded from 1.5 to 1.50 in case users have tcl/tk 8.5)... Yes. I just need to DO all that and I'm boored :( you're bored, so it means it won't bother you to do it :p read above :D about the IRC todo, yes, it is updated everyday (at 7:30 PM eastern time), I don't want it to be known by users because they might find out how it works abnd start 'requesting features' through IRC buy using the special tags for the script.. which we already had a few times, some users find noone on the channel and they reported the bug or feature using [TODO].. lol, hadn't noticed :) yes you did, I saw you chatting with the user when he was [TODO]ing the bot :@ Just ONE user ONCE, I gave him my permission to do it because I was too lazy to form a sentence that would describe the problem and I also warned to not do it generally. It wasn't find noone on the channel. that's all for now i guess.. :) you lazy girl.. :p yeah, but he's not the only one, there are 2 or 3 who did it, one was with you, another one I've been trying to track him down to yell at him, but he was always idling when I was there.. and he did it when noone was on the channel (can't remember who, I deleted his thing from the todo list as it was stupid as hell. Error in Youness paragraph: missing ) this is what i meant, i know about the one i gave the permission to, i didn't know about the others just adding stuff! BTW you added some TODO items lately, can you check which are DONE? Last time I checked I didn't really know... Viv --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
On Thu, 4 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Thu, 04 May 2006 11:58:48 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehe, yeah, I said a misunderstanding.. anyways, i know it's not ready yet, but could you still check the TODO list and see if all that remains are only bugfixes and no new feats are to be added in ? which TODO now? and why should it contain only bugfixes and no new feats? maybe you meant the opposite??? euhh.. task and wiki TODO, and since you're a devel, also see if new items were added to the IRc TODO... and no, I meant bugfixes and no feats, as in 'can you make sure that all new feats we'd want in 0.96 are done, and only bugfixes remain so we can say that we're ready for RC1 What do we want in 0.96 ? Do I define that arbitrarily? If so, I'd like someone else's opinion as well. you lazy girl.. :p yeah, but he's not the only one, there are 2 or 3 who did it, one was with you, another one I've been trying to track him down to yell at him, but he was always idling when I was there.. and he did it when noone was on the channel (can't remember who, I deleted his thing from the todo list as it was stupid as hell. Error in Youness paragraph: missing ) noo, it will say missing closing bracket won't say if it's a ) } ] Want a bet? I tried it right before sending the email. this is what i meant, i know about the one i gave the permission to, i didn't know about the others just adding stuff! BTW you added some TODO items lately, can you check which are DONE? Last time I checked I didn't really know... I will see... *pleeease* :D (a) Take care, Viv --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yep ... it's already in my TODO ... I just did not have time to look at it in deep yet :S Soon ;) Youness Alaoui wrote: another wiki cleaning to do (maybe for GrdScarabe) : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Webcam+In+aMSN#test this talks about the test.tcl file and we had reports about 'the file doesn't exist', I guess we should add that to get that file, you must download the source package, not the binary package. also, the output is from the nong capture extension, now nong was removed so we should show the output from libng... KKRT On Thu, 04 May 2006 11:58:48 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehe, yeah, I said a misunderstanding.. anyways, i know it's not ready yet, but could you still check the TODO list and see if all that remains are only bugfixes and no new feats are to be added in ? which TODO now? and why should it contain only bugfixes and no new feats? maybe you meant the opposite??? I know the 0.96 release was speed up because of the proxy issues, but we should make sure we don't miss anything. about reflector/pause, I say it's not an issue, it doesn't bug if you press the pause button, it just won't do anything.. but yeah, people will be annoyed.. I think you must do the test)_webcam_reflector 1, launch webcam with reflector with an msn 7.5 user, and ask him to press pause... see what happens (add puts in case TSP_RECEIVE to see what is received exactly... ) if you don't understand it, I'll do it this weekend, I'll have time the weekend.. I don't understand it :D besides I'm VERY busy until next Tuesday, and I'm absolutely not in a working mood, so if I do find some, I'll spend it on my work and not aMSN. Unless it's sth that needs 10 minutes, like the FT thing before. yes, an RC release is a release with bugs.. so if we know there are bugs we can still release the RC1 and fix bugs we know about until we receive new ones... Sure. Then we release RC1 as soon as you do the webcam_paused thing! which is why we'll have an RC1... and about tls1.5.. what's the prob ? you need to add the binary packages for the different platforms (unix, windows, x64, mac) and change the autodownloadfer for tls... what is the rpbolem ?(don't forget to change the package ifneeded from 1.5 to 1.50 in case users have tcl/tk 8.5)... Yes. I just need to DO all that and I'm boored :( you're bored, so it means it won't bother you to do it :p read above :D about the IRC todo, yes, it is updated everyday (at 7:30 PM eastern time), I don't want it to be known by users because they might find out how it works abnd start 'requesting features' through IRC buy using the special tags for the script.. which we already had a few times, some users find noone on the channel and they reported the bug or feature using [TODO].. lol, hadn't noticed :) yes you did, I saw you chatting with the user when he was [TODO]ing the bot :@ Just ONE user ONCE, I gave him my permission to do it because I was too lazy to form a sentence that would describe the problem and I also warned to not do it generally. It wasn't find noone on the channel. that's all for now i guess.. :) you lazy girl.. :p yeah, but he's not the only one, there are 2 or 3 who did it, one was with you, another one I've been trying to track him down to yell at him, but he was always idling when I was there.. and he did it when noone was on the channel (can't remember who, I deleted his thing from the todo list as it was stupid as hell. Error in Youness paragraph: missing ) this is what i meant, i know about the one i gave the permission to, i didn't know about the others just adding stuff! BTW you added some TODO items lately, can you check which are DONE? Last time I checked I didn't really know... Viv --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --KaKaRoTo --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - --
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
I've moved everything from the old NextReleaseTODO wiki page to the new OverallTODO wiki page : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=OverallTODO You can also find a link to it from the main wiki page. Please take a few minutes to browse it and mark everything that needs to be removed with an asterisk as Vivia mentioned, or leave a note so I know what to move to the future TODO. Thanks, ~Lee On 5/3/06, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Wed, 03 May 2006 14:07:22 -0400, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took a look at the wiki and realized that some areas are quite outdated. For example: the Next Release TODO, in our case (0.96). http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=NextReleaseTODO Hi Lee, thanks for taking the time to look at this. If I remember correctly, Vivia already took good care of the TODO, it is up to date in the wiki afaik, anything in there are real bugs/feats that we 'might want' to implement some day, some of them won't be implemented because they are low pri or we have no clue on how to fix them... The wiki page is named Next Release TODO, which is wrong, it should instead be an Overal TODO list... I took care of it to just remove DONE things. That is a huge TODO list though, and I'm not sure we want all this stuff to be done. I just can't start removing stuff without asking anyone. How about each one of us adding an asterisk on items that they'd like to be removed? (No cheating, no adding 5 asterisks :P just discuss the reason why you'd LOVE to see that item gone in the ML!) It's also a good idea to move GUI tweaks to winskin! Do we need to keep any of this? If so, we can just add it to the 0.96 TODO. Also, how are we going to deal with the TODO? I know there's an IRC TODO, the wiki TODO, a TODO file included with aMSN. The IRC TODO is a good idea and I see there is a link to it from the wiki, KaKaRoTo, is this TODO-list automatically updated? It is indeed problematic since none of us ever had the time/motivation to build a 0.96 TODO... we have a lot of TODO items, but we needed to select which ones are high pri enough for next release.. now the TODO is almost closed, because of the proxy bugs, we need 0.96 out of the doors asap, if it weren't for small bugs that still keep popping up, vivia was supposed to release 0.96 last week (I annouced that last time...) Me? Release 0.96? No offence, but m9awda allik :P [*] Not only I am no amsn admin, I am also the newest team member!! I was supposed to add tls 1.5 available for download, which needs testing first, and I really should have done that. But... to release 0.96... not really :P Besides, we can't release until we are 100% sure that these new webcam features work OK (don't forget we still can't pause when using reflector, and I dunno how to do these modifications you talked about!) [*] really, REALLY j/k, i don't mean it :) the TODO file included with aMSN is not to be used anymore I think, look at the CVS history, I think it's been 2years since the last time that file got updated... it's nowhere need up to date.. and I think the original TODO page in the wiki was created by copying the content of that TODO file, so I don't think we can miss anything from it, but I wouldn't mind a double check on that... I think the best way is to delete its content and simply paste the link to the wiki in it, in case someone reads it, at least he'll get the correct info... good idea (Y) but then the wiki page also needs a link to the tracker (Ouch, that's also outdated) about the IRC todo, yes, it is updated everyday (at 7:30 PM eastern time), I don't want it to be known by users because they might find out how it works abnd start 'requesting features' through IRC buy using the special tags for the script.. which we already had a few times, some users find noone on the channel and they reported the bug or feature using [TODO].. lol, hadn't noticed :) Also, that TODO list is basically for developers I think, it shouldn't be public.. and shouldn't be used as it is, if you look at it, you'll see some stuff marked as [DONE] and others marked as [TASKED], that todo list is there to help the lazy ones to easily add something they have in mind before the connection timesout in their brain... then all the todo items in there are moved to the SF task tracker, some devels were assigned some takss, and they are working on it in there and it seems to go well this way. I think we should : 1 - either move all the TODO list into the task tracker 2 - use the TODO list AND the task tracker at the same time... just like we do now... I go with 2 The TODO file included with aMSN needs to be cleaned and up to date if we want to continue to use it, otherwise, we could just include a link to where it can be found on our wiki and remove all the old. I agree How does everyone else deal with the TODO? I
Re: [Amsn-devel] wiki cleaning
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Lee, I'm not completly done with my finals yet ... but in one week or two I'll be free to start reorganizing the wiki. GrdScarabe Lee Olson wrote: I've moved everything from the old NextReleaseTODO wiki page to the new OverallTODO wiki page : http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=OverallTODO You can also find a link to it from the main wiki page. Please take a few minutes to browse it and mark everything that needs to be removed with an asterisk as Vivia mentioned, or leave a note so I know what to move to the future TODO. Thanks, ~Lee On 5/3/06, Vivia Nikolaidou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote: On Wed, 03 May 2006 14:07:22 -0400, Lee Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took a look at the wiki and realized that some areas are quite outdated. For example: the Next Release TODO, in our case (0.96). http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=NextReleaseTODO Hi Lee, thanks for taking the time to look at this. If I remember correctly, Vivia already took good care of the TODO, it is up to date in the wiki afaik, anything in there are real bugs/feats that we 'might want' to implement some day, some of them won't be implemented because they are low pri or we have no clue on how to fix them... The wiki page is named Next Release TODO, which is wrong, it should instead be an Overal TODO list... I took care of it to just remove DONE things. That is a huge TODO list though, and I'm not sure we want all this stuff to be done. I just can't start removing stuff without asking anyone. How about each one of us adding an asterisk on items that they'd like to be removed? (No cheating, no adding 5 asterisks :P just discuss the reason why you'd LOVE to see that item gone in the ML!) It's also a good idea to move GUI tweaks to winskin! Do we need to keep any of this? If so, we can just add it to the 0.96 TODO. Also, how are we going to deal with the TODO? I know there's an IRC TODO, the wiki TODO, a TODO file included with aMSN. The IRC TODO is a good idea and I see there is a link to it from the wiki, KaKaRoTo, is this TODO-list automatically updated? It is indeed problematic since none of us ever had the time/motivation to build a 0.96 TODO... we have a lot of TODO items, but we needed to select which ones are high pri enough for next release.. now the TODO is almost closed, because of the proxy bugs, we need 0.96 out of the doors asap, if it weren't for small bugs that still keep popping up, vivia was supposed to release 0.96 last week (I annouced that last time...) Me? Release 0.96? No offence, but m9awda allik :P [*] Not only I am no amsn admin, I am also the newest team member!! I was supposed to add tls 1.5 available for download, which needs testing first, and I really should have done that. But... to release 0.96... not really :P Besides, we can't release until we are 100% sure that these new webcam features work OK (don't forget we still can't pause when using reflector, and I dunno how to do these modifications you talked about!) [*] really, REALLY j/k, i don't mean it :) the TODO file included with aMSN is not to be used anymore I think, look at the CVS history, I think it's been 2years since the last time that file got updated... it's nowhere need up to date.. and I think the original TODO page in the wiki was created by copying the content of that TODO file, so I don't think we can miss anything from it, but I wouldn't mind a double check on that... I think the best way is to delete its content and simply paste the link to the wiki in it, in case someone reads it, at least he'll get the correct info... good idea (Y) but then the wiki page also needs a link to the tracker (Ouch, that's also outdated) about the IRC todo, yes, it is updated everyday (at 7:30 PM eastern time), I don't want it to be known by users because they might find out how it works abnd start 'requesting features' through IRC buy using the special tags for the script.. which we already had a few times, some users find noone on the channel and they reported the bug or feature using [TODO].. lol, hadn't noticed :) Also, that TODO list is basically for developers I think, it shouldn't be public.. and shouldn't be used as it is, if you look at it, you'll see some stuff marked as [DONE] and others marked as [TASKED], that todo list is there to help the lazy ones to easily add something they have in mind before the connection timesout in their brain... then all the todo items in there are moved to the SF task tracker, some devels were assigned some takss, and they are working on it in there and it seems to go well this way. I think we should : 1 - either move all the TODO list into the task tracker 2 - use the TODO list AND the task tracker at the same time... just like we
Re: [Amsn-devel] WiKi translation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oki ... I'll take a look this evening ! I'll scrawl the wiki to note the documentations to translate and try to establish a list of documentations to write ! GrdScarabe Lee Olson wrote: Hello, I'm working on the FAQ... I plan to get a large portion completed today so that everyone may take a look at it and add to it. I'll try to get it out as soon as possible. ~Lee On 11/2/05, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, you finished the translation TODO... well then, how about updating the TODO first? :) What I suggest is to look at what you can do.. I think the documentation should be finished first... You can read the current doc... complete it and translate it... What I would really like also would be a good and simple FAQ! I don't know about our current FAQ status... but it should be done... looking at the archives, I send some QA to this list... they should be added to the FAQ... also, main elements to add : Q: can I see who blocked me Q: how can I change display pictures Q: how can I make my webcam work I think that's it for the moment I'll forward the QA elements I had before in a list's thread... Thanks for the hard work and volontarisme.. Do this and you'll get a wiki account :D KaKaRoTo On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 17:18:41 -0500, GrdScarabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok ... as I said to Jérôme (after apologized) I understand that and I apologize again but I missed the mails that answer me :S Shame on me ! I'm ok to translate more WiKi pages ... but it seems that there's nothing else to translate according to http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=FrenchTranslationTODO Anyway ... I'm o to write documentations ... so if there are documentations that must be done ... just tell me I'll do it in english and translate them in French according to my schedule ;) Bonne nuit les Frenchy ;) GrdScarabe ... miss France Youness Alaoui wrote: English people... I'm too tired now so use google to translate or skip this message :p Hehe, ouais, c pas mal... merci bcps pour ton travail, j'espere que tu pourra en faire plus :) comme a dit Boris, on en recoit plein des donne moi un compte Wiki... y'en a meme qui se plaignent, gueulent, se fachent si on refuse... et ceux a qui on refuse pas.. bein ils disparaissent.. alors on veux pas avoir 1000 comptes sans savoir a qui ils appartiennent... Bein voila, bravo pour ton travail et ton honnetete (t'as dit que t'allais le faire, et tu l'a fait) et continue comme ca si tu nous envoie une autre traduction d'une page, je voterait pour toi aux elections municipales (ie. j'approuverais ta candidature pour avoir un compte wiki rien que pour toi :) ) Merci encore. KaKaRoTo On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 05:11:30 -0500, Boris Faure (billiob) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [FRENCH] Je le mets sur le wiki. Bon travail, continue comme ça. Désolé, je ne t'avais pas répondu, car plusieurs fois des personnes ont été intéressées et n'ont rien fait :s . Ce n'est pas ton cas, et tant mieux. Merci [ENGLISH] i'm updating the wiki. -- Boris FAURE (billiob) mail, msn : [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly agitated. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel - --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play:
Re: [Amsn-devel] WiKi translation
It's ok for me. Just one thing that I will tell in French because I really don't know how to say it in English ;-) Pour les premières descriptions, il manque des e aux adjectifs se reportant à image. Par exemple image utilisé au lieu de image utilisée. Sinon, tout est ok pour moi :-) Greets Fred GrdScarabe a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can the francophonic give me their impression about the translation of the Howtoskin ? http://grandscarabe.free.fr/wikini/wakka.php?wiki=aMSNSkinsHowtoFrench Thanks a lot GrdScarabe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDZvREPmfsnt4Id3wRAlojAJ0ehoe68iAU9bRyjfg/SvSF6ZZZdgCeKtZF PEXG5ONvPLBLDMKaUuASNvk= =cyZy -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] WiKi translation
[FRENCH] Je le mets sur le wiki. Bon travail, continue comme ça. Désolé, je ne t'avais pas répondu, car plusieurs fois des personnes ont été intéressées et n'ont rien fait :s . Ce n'est pas ton cas, et tant mieux. Merci [ENGLISH] i'm updating the wiki. -- Boris FAURE (billiob) mail, msn : [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly agitated. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] WiKi translation
English people... I'm too tired now so use google to translate or skip this message :p Hehe, ouais, c pas mal... merci bcps pour ton travail, j'espere que tu pourra en faire plus :) comme a dit Boris, on en recoit plein des donne moi un compte Wiki... y'en a meme qui se plaignent, gueulent, se fachent si on refuse... et ceux a qui on refuse pas.. bein ils disparaissent.. alors on veux pas avoir 1000 comptes sans savoir a qui ils appartiennent... Bein voila, bravo pour ton travail et ton honnetete (t'as dit que t'allais le faire, et tu l'a fait) et continue comme ca si tu nous envoie une autre traduction d'une page, je voterait pour toi aux elections municipales (ie. j'approuverais ta candidature pour avoir un compte wiki rien que pour toi :) ) Merci encore. KaKaRoTo On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 05:11:30 -0500, Boris Faure (billiob) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [FRENCH] Je le mets sur le wiki. Bon travail, continue comme ça. Désolé, je ne t'avais pas répondu, car plusieurs fois des personnes ont été intéressées et n'ont rien fait :s . Ce n'est pas ton cas, et tant mieux. Merci [ENGLISH] i'm updating the wiki. -- Boris FAURE (billiob) mail, msn : [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly agitated. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -- KaKaRoTo --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
Re: [Amsn-devel] WiKi translation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok ... as I said to Jérôme (after apologized) I understand that and I apologize again but I missed the mails that answer me :S Shame on me ! I'm ok to translate more WiKi pages ... but it seems that there's nothing else to translate according to http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=FrenchTranslationTODO Anyway ... I'm o to write documentations ... so if there are documentations that must be done ... just tell me I'll do it in english and translate them in French according to my schedule ;) Bonne nuit les Frenchy ;) GrdScarabe ... miss France Youness Alaoui wrote: English people... I'm too tired now so use google to translate or skip this message :p Hehe, ouais, c pas mal... merci bcps pour ton travail, j'espere que tu pourra en faire plus :) comme a dit Boris, on en recoit plein des donne moi un compte Wiki... y'en a meme qui se plaignent, gueulent, se fachent si on refuse... et ceux a qui on refuse pas.. bein ils disparaissent.. alors on veux pas avoir 1000 comptes sans savoir a qui ils appartiennent... Bein voila, bravo pour ton travail et ton honnetete (t'as dit que t'allais le faire, et tu l'a fait) et continue comme ca si tu nous envoie une autre traduction d'une page, je voterait pour toi aux elections municipales (ie. j'approuverais ta candidature pour avoir un compte wiki rien que pour toi :) ) Merci encore. KaKaRoTo On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 05:11:30 -0500, Boris Faure (billiob) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [FRENCH] Je le mets sur le wiki. Bon travail, continue comme ça. Désolé, je ne t'avais pas répondu, car plusieurs fois des personnes ont été intéressées et n'ont rien fait :s . Ce n'est pas ton cas, et tant mieux. Merci [ENGLISH] i'm updating the wiki. -- Boris FAURE (billiob) mail, msn : [EMAIL PROTECTED] No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly agitated. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDZ+nBPmfsnt4Id3wRAnzIAJ49ACs2W6TD9YZreXdmLuwfjNRQFgCeKp64 Q8TNKi3gDgp5rjjirHLw27o= =gV3q -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
