[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Hi..I was very excited to see that 1.5 has come and also started using that too. I have updated my old applications of 1.1 and then when i try to run the emulator its taking forever to bootup and start. I have been using the new SDK since yesterday but till now not been successful in starting the emulator as shown in the documentation, also tried creating the new Virtual device as stated, then also not able to. How can i implement the new touch keyboard with apps of 1.1. Need your advice..where i am going wrong Thanks On Apr 13, 9:01 pm, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 8:53 PM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, thanks Xavier! I've read the blog but I am not clear re: backwards compatibility: Will apps currently built against 1.0 or 1.1 run on handsets released w/ 1.5, say the new keyboard-less devices? Or do we need to account for the changes in 1.5 and re-release? (This would be hell) As long as you don't use private APIs you *should* be good (except for some minor permission changes.) That said, we fixed some bugs that may have some minor side effects. For instance, we changed the minimum size of some widgets in 1.5 that may impact on your layouts. This SDK contains both 1.1 and 1.5, so you should keep compiling your applications against Android 1.1 but test them on both 1.1 and 1.5 emulators. Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
After 1.5 is released officially, for how long do we have to support for the older versions? Also tell me how can we release two different versions (one for 1.1 and other for 1.5) on the market? I cant develop for the new version untill these issues are resolved. On Apr 22, 8:50 pm, havexz bali.param...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Jasoni ll check that out but my question is still unanswered On Apr 21, 6:21 pm, Jason Proctor ja...@particularplace.com wrote: But will the official release will work on the ADP1? One more question after 1.5 is released officially, do we still have to support for the older versions or all gphone owners will have this update available on their phones? fwiw, i'm running Haykuro's 5.0.1Gr3-signed.zip build on my ADP1 right now. i just followed the instructions on Haykuro's blog - install a JF ROM, backup with Nandroid, then install the 1.5 ROM. works well enough for me. i'm seeing some issues, but they're most likely generic 1.5 ones rather than anything specific to the ADP as such. -- jason.software.particle- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
thanks Jasoni ll check that out but my question is still unanswered On Apr 21, 6:21 pm, Jason Proctor ja...@particularplace.com wrote: But will the official release will work on the ADP1? One more question after 1.5 is released officially, do we still have to support for the older versions or all gphone owners will have this update available on their phones? fwiw, i'm running Haykuro's 5.0.1Gr3-signed.zip build on my ADP1 right now. i just followed the instructions on Haykuro's blog - install a JF ROM, backup with Nandroid, then install the 1.5 ROM. works well enough for me. i'm seeing some issues, but they're most likely generic 1.5 ones rather than anything specific to the ADP as such. -- jason.software.particle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Xavier thanks a lot Downloading Looks like powerful. On 4月14日, 上午7时30分, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at:http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-andr... Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
It's not going to run on ADP1 as it lacks the proprietary files that are needed for that. JBQ But will the official release will work on the ADP1? One more question after 1.5 is released officially, do we still have to support for the older versions or all gphone owners will have this update available on their phones? On Apr 14, 1:11 pm, Jean-Baptiste Queru j...@android.com wrote: The latest cupcake source drop (done a few hours ago) matches the preview SDK. We're working to tag it. Note that this isn't release 1.5 of Android, it's just a code drop that matches an official preview SDK. It's not going to run on ADP1 as it lacks the proprietary files that are needed for that. JBQ On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Vladimir vladimir.stepan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Xav. Thanks! But I have questions. How can I build the same version by myself? Is it based on Master branch? Or Cupcake? Is it possible to build the same version for ADP1? I think it would be better to create new branch to avoid issues like 18 march issue. As example release1_5. BR, Vladimir Stepanov On Apr 14, 3:30 am, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at:http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-andr... Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. -- Jean-Baptiste M. JBQ Queru Android Engineer, Google. Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further warning.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Hi, Xav It is very cool! thanks for keeping polishing ... Some bugs I found 1. Home - Menu - Add - Widgets -Search ... then there will be 2 google search bar. 2. Eclipse - Emulator Control -Input some Chinese text as SMS, Android display ???. this is also happened on 1.1-r1 3. Setting - Locale and Text - choose Chinese as Locale and Google Pinyin as input method but there is no way to input Chinese The screen shots can be found at http://picasaweb.google.com/ypwangreg/Android Two more question about youtube video. 1. this is no way to play the video from youtube in m.google.com on the emulator, is this correct for the 1.5? Is there any plan to support it in the near future? 2. this is no way to play the video from youtube in ww.youtube.com on the emulator, is this correct for the 1.5? is there any plan for it in the near future. Thanks, Andy On Apr 13, 7:30 pm, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at:http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-andr... Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Andy ypwang...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Xav It is very cool! thanks for keeping polishing ... Some bugs I found 1. Home - Menu - Add - Widgets -Search ... then there will be 2 google search bar. I don't think anything restricts putting only 1 instance of a particular widget. 2. Eclipse - Emulator Control -Input some Chinese text as SMS, Android display ???. this is also happened on 1.1-r1 How did you input the chinese text (since your next point is about not being able to input it, I'm a bit confused :)) 3. Setting - Locale and Text - choose Chinese as Locale and Google Pinyin as input method but there is no way to input Chinese This looks like the default latin input method, not the chinese one. Try a long press on the TextEdit, you'll see a Input Method item in the contextual menu that will help you check which Input Method is selected. The screen shots can be found at http://picasaweb.google.com/ypwangreg/Android Two more question about youtube video. 1. this is no way to play the video from youtube in m.google.com on the emulator, is this correct for the 1.5? Is there any plan to support it in the near future? 2. this is no way to play the video from youtube in ww.youtube.com on the emulator, is this correct for the 1.5? is there any plan for it in the near future. This is because there's no youtube application in the emulator. I don't think there are any plans to ship it with the SDK at this point. Xav --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
1. Home - Menu - Add - Widgets -Search ... then there will be 2 google search bar. I don't think anything restricts putting only 1 instance of a particular widget. Yes, working as intended. -- Jeff Sharkey jshar...@android.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
It says in http://developer.android.com/sdk/preview/: SDK Known Issues No network access from emulator while running Android 1.1 target Applications can not access the network when running on an Android 1.1 target in the emulator included in the SDK. So, you can develope for 1.1 and 1.5 as long as your app doesn't use the network. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:53 PM, StefanK skyntc...@gmail.com wrote: As the new Eclipse plugin (ADT 0.9) can target both 1.1 and 1.5 SDKs. is it safe to use 1.1 target to build applications for 1.1 SDK that can be distributed on the Market right now? (It appears to work well so far with the only difference I found is that the signed file (using Export Signed Application Package) is about 15K smaller (on a 500KB APK) compared to exporting it as Unsigned from 0.8 ADT and signing it using the external jarsigner tool.) I could not find a good way to keep both 0.8 and 0.9 working together side by side. I have 2 eclipse installs for each ADT but for some reason they seem to share the location of the SDK (under Window Preferences Android). Apart from the SDK location, because of the new /gen folder, if I want to share the same project between the 2, I also have to include/exclude the /gen from build path. If it is not safe to use ADT 0.9 for 1.1 target, is there a special trick to keep 0.8 and 0.9 working side by side until an official 0.9 release? Stefan On Apr 15, 7:49 pm, Justin (Google Employee) j...@google.com wrote: Sure, start testing your apps against the preview SDK. You can start using new API features, as long as you're aware that the 1.5 API is *not* finalized. Functionality could be added or removed and method signatures may change. Cheers, Justin Android Team @ Google On Apr 15, 11:07 am, clark clarkd...@gmail.com wrote: However, in the specific case of acquiring mic audio, there may be an Android engineer here that could confirm that this is going to be in the released platform, it's just that I don't know the answer. Hmm, I sure hope that is a feature since it is listed as one of the new features in the early look of Android 1.5 SDK. Is it a bad idea to start working with these new features? I was hoping that was part of offering this early look, not just to test existing apps, but to get familiar with additions to the SDK. Either way, the early look SDK is allowing me to get raw audio from the phones mic and run it through an FFT. The test notes I was sending through are being analyzed by the FFT correctly, and I can say I am quite happy with the features so far. BTW, the emulator is great and should be used as a step in the testing/ debugging process but as an embedded developer, I value running things on the actual metal rather than trust the simulation/emulation, especially when it comes to performance. Regards, ~Clark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Mariano Kamp mariano.k...@gmail.comwrote: It says in http://developer.android.com/sdk/preview/: SDK Known Issues No network access from emulator while running Android 1.1 target Applications can not access the network when running on an Android 1.1 target in the emulator included in the SDK. So, you can develope for 1.1 and 1.5 as long as your app doesn't use the network. Yes, but to make it clear: this bug will be fixed in the non-preview SDK 1.5 release and you will be able to test networking against 1.1 system images. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:53 PM, StefanK skyntc...@gmail.com wrote: As the new Eclipse plugin (ADT 0.9) can target both 1.1 and 1.5 SDKs. is it safe to use 1.1 target to build applications for 1.1 SDK that can be distributed on the Market right now? (It appears to work well so far with the only difference I found is that the signed file (using Export Signed Application Package) is about 15K smaller (on a 500KB APK) compared to exporting it as Unsigned from 0.8 ADT and signing it using the external jarsigner tool.) I could not find a good way to keep both 0.8 and 0.9 working together side by side. I have 2 eclipse installs for each ADT but for some reason they seem to share the location of the SDK (under Window Preferences Android). Apart from the SDK location, because of the new /gen folder, if I want to share the same project between the 2, I also have to include/exclude the /gen from build path. If it is not safe to use ADT 0.9 for 1.1 target, is there a special trick to keep 0.8 and 0.9 working side by side until an official 0.9 release? Stefan On Apr 15, 7:49 pm, Justin (Google Employee) j...@google.com wrote: Sure, start testing your apps against the preview SDK. You can start using new API features, as long as you're aware that the 1.5 API is *not* finalized. Functionality could be added or removed and method signatures may change. Cheers, Justin Android Team @ Google On Apr 15, 11:07 am, clark clarkd...@gmail.com wrote: However, in the specific case of acquiring mic audio, there may be an Android engineer here that could confirm that this is going to be in the released platform, it's just that I don't know the answer. Hmm, I sure hope that is a feature since it is listed as one of the new features in the early look of Android 1.5 SDK. Is it a bad idea to start working with these new features? I was hoping that was part of offering this early look, not just to test existing apps, but to get familiar with additions to the SDK. Either way, the early look SDK is allowing me to get raw audio from the phones mic and run it through an FFT. The test notes I was sending through are being analyzed by the FFT correctly, and I can say I am quite happy with the features so far. BTW, the emulator is great and should be used as a step in the testing/ debugging process but as an embedded developer, I value running things on the actual metal rather than trust the simulation/emulation, especially when it comes to performance. Regards, ~Clark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
I actually don't mind testing against 1.5 emulator image as long as the .apk built by 1.1 target is fully compatible with the 1.1 sdk and can be uploaded to the market. I actually do most of my testing on the device itself (it is 1.1), and this way I would be able to easily test against both SDK versions. Stefan On Apr 17, 5:52 am, David Turner di...@android.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Mariano Kamp mariano.k...@gmail.comwrote: It says inhttp://developer.android.com/sdk/preview/: SDK Known Issues No network access from emulator while running Android 1.1 target Applications can not access the network when running on an Android 1.1 target in the emulator included in the SDK. So, you can develope for 1.1 and 1.5 as long as your app doesn't use the network. Yes, but to make it clear: this bug will be fixed in the non-preview SDK 1.5 release and you will be able to test networking against 1.1 system images. On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:53 PM, StefanK skyntc...@gmail.com wrote: As the new Eclipse plugin (ADT 0.9) can target both 1.1 and 1.5 SDKs. is it safe to use 1.1 target to build applications for 1.1 SDK that can be distributed on the Market right now? (It appears to work well so far with the only difference I found is that the signed file (using Export Signed Application Package) is about 15K smaller (on a 500KB APK) compared to exporting it as Unsigned from 0.8 ADT and signing it using the external jarsigner tool.) I could not find a good way to keep both 0.8 and 0.9 working together side by side. I have 2 eclipse installs for each ADT but for some reason they seem to share the location of the SDK (under Window Preferences Android). Apart from the SDK location, because of the new /gen folder, if I want to share the same project between the 2, I also have to include/exclude the /gen from build path. If it is not safe to use ADT 0.9 for 1.1 target, is there a special trick to keep 0.8 and 0.9 working side by side until an official 0.9 release? Stefan On Apr 15, 7:49 pm, Justin (Google Employee) j...@google.com wrote: Sure, start testing your apps against the preview SDK. You can start using new API features, as long as you're aware that the 1.5 API is *not* finalized. Functionality could be added or removed and method signatures may change. Cheers, Justin Android Team @ Google On Apr 15, 11:07 am, clark clarkd...@gmail.com wrote: However, in the specific case of acquiring mic audio, there may be an Android engineer here that could confirm that this is going to be in the released platform, it's just that I don't know the answer. Hmm, I sure hope that is a feature since it is listed as one of the new features in the early look of Android 1.5 SDK. Is it a bad idea to start working with these new features? I was hoping that was part of offering this early look, not just to test existing apps, but to get familiar with additions to the SDK. Either way, the early look SDK is allowing me to get raw audio from the phones mic and run it through an FFT. The test notes I was sending through are being analyzed by the FFT correctly, and I can say I am quite happy with the features so far. BTW, the emulator is great and should be used as a step in the testing/ debugging process but as an embedded developer, I value running things on the actual metal rather than trust the simulation/emulation, especially when it comes to performance. Regards, ~Clark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Just another THANK YOU for making 1.5 available to developers BEFORE the updates reach the handsets. -sz. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
As the new Eclipse plugin (ADT 0.9) can target both 1.1 and 1.5 SDKs. is it safe to use 1.1 target to build applications for 1.1 SDK that can be distributed on the Market right now? (It appears to work well so far with the only difference I found is that the signed file (using Export Signed Application Package) is about 15K smaller (on a 500KB APK) compared to exporting it as Unsigned from 0.8 ADT and signing it using the external jarsigner tool.) I could not find a good way to keep both 0.8 and 0.9 working together side by side. I have 2 eclipse installs for each ADT but for some reason they seem to share the location of the SDK (under Window Preferences Android). Apart from the SDK location, because of the new /gen folder, if I want to share the same project between the 2, I also have to include/exclude the /gen from build path. If it is not safe to use ADT 0.9 for 1.1 target, is there a special trick to keep 0.8 and 0.9 working side by side until an official 0.9 release? Stefan On Apr 15, 7:49 pm, Justin (Google Employee) j...@google.com wrote: Sure, start testing your apps against the preview SDK. You can start using new API features, as long as you're aware that the 1.5 API is *not* finalized. Functionality could be added or removed and method signatures may change. Cheers, Justin Android Team @ Google On Apr 15, 11:07 am, clark clarkd...@gmail.com wrote: However, in the specific case of acquiring mic audio, there may be an Android engineer here that could confirm that this is going to be in the released platform, it's just that I don't know the answer. Hmm, I sure hope that is a feature since it is listed as one of the new features in the early look of Android 1.5 SDK. Is it a bad idea to start working with these new features? I was hoping that was part of offering this early look, not just to test existing apps, but to get familiar with additions to the SDK. Either way, the early look SDK is allowing me to get raw audio from the phones mic and run it through an FFT. The test notes I was sending through are being analyzed by the FFT correctly, and I can say I am quite happy with the features so far. BTW, the emulator is great and should be used as a step in the testing/ debugging process but as an embedded developer, I value running things on the actual metal rather than trust the simulation/emulation, especially when it comes to performance. Regards, ~Clark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Great news. That's two applications back in the development queue for me! On Apr 15, 12:07 pm, clark clarkd...@gmail.com wrote: Either way, the early look SDK is allowing me to get raw audio from the phones mic and run it through an FFT. The test notes I was sending through are being analyzed by the FFT correctly, and I can say I am quite happy with the features so far. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:56 PM, clark clarkd...@gmail.com wrote: I recently flashed my phone with the firmware found on the upcoming HTC Saphire, which says it is version 1.5. Does anyone know if I will be able to try out the features from the 1.5 SDK with this phone? It would be great to test directly on the hardware rather than use an emulator. Since firmware found on the upcoming HTC Sapphire means absolutely nothing to us (really), you'd better ask to the person who provided you this nice piece of software instead :-) I would not assume anything from a random binary image though. Also, I am willing to try other apps out on the actual hardware (if it indeed matches the features in the 1.5 SDK), so if any developer would like to know how their app performs, just shoot me a message. I'd be able to provide logcat info as well as screenshots. Regards, ~clark On Apr 14, 1:03 pm, Stoyan Damov stoyan.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: To Xav, Dave, JBQ, Dianne, Romain, and anyone else involved in getting this out there. THANK YOU. You may not literally get a thousand thank yous in your mail box, but it'll probably be said a thousand times in various ways by developers around the world. Here's a THOUSAND THANKS! to all Android engineers from the grumpiest dev on the list ;) Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Still a few rough edges to be fixed ;) - Executing emulator -wipe-data does not work (it needs an android virtual device to be specified) I still don't know if this option is needed (probably yes, because running eclipse with the new SDK doesn't start the emulator). - The release notes state that v0.8.0 of the Android toolkit plug-in used for r1.1 can also be used for r1.5. However, when I restart eclipse after updating the locatiion of the new SDK, a message pops up that the toolkit must be updated to v0.9.0. However, updating the Android plug-in indicates that 0.8.0 is the latest version of the plug-in. - Maybe because of these problems, eclipse does not start the emulator. I'll wait until the end of the month. Regards, Paul On Apr 14, 1:30 am, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at:http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-andr... Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 20:11, Jean-Baptiste Queru j...@android.com wrote: The latest cupcake source drop (done a few hours ago) matches the preview SDK. We're working to tag it. Note that this isn't release 1.5 of Android, it's just a code drop that matches an official preview SDK. It's not going to run on ADP1 as it lacks the proprietary files that are needed for that. Does the SDK matching the source code means that we can expect google apps binaries pulled from SDK to work with Android compiled from the open source tree ? (so that we could for example install them on an android port on phones other than G1) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Since firmware found on the upcoming HTC Sapphire means absolutely nothing to us (really), you'd better ask to the person who provided you this nice piece of software instead :-) Now when you say us, are you referring to google engineers, the application developers or the community? Anyhow, for what it's worth, what this means is another Android based phone is on the horizon, which I'm sure most of you are aware of. Last night I wrote some code that got the raw audio from the mic, a feature I had been waiting for. So far it looks as though this is based on Android 1.5, which it also states in the About Phone section under the settings. ~clark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:42 PM, clark clarkd...@gmail.com wrote: Since firmware found on the upcoming HTC Sapphire means absolutely nothing to us (really), you'd better ask to the person who provided you this nice piece of software instead :-) Now when you say us, are you referring to google engineers, the application developers or the community? I was referring to the Android team but also other people on this list. Essentially there is zero information in your post that can help us identify what this firmware is. Last night I wrote some code that got the raw audio from the mic, a feature I had been waiting for. So far it looks as though this is based on Android 1.5, which it also states in the About Phone section under the settings. I have seen reviews in print magazines that were apparently based on old cupcake-based firmware that unfortunately were touting features that have been removed or disabled since from the build (because they were not usable / stable enough for a release). And intermediate builds have been tagged 1.5 for a long time now, that doesn't make them final. I am thus not confident to tell you if such or such feature is going to be supported in the official cupcake release, especially if you test it on a build of unknown origin. You could try running your code in the preview SDK which probably is closer to the real thing that what you have on this device. However, in the specific case of acquiring mic audio, there may be an Android engineer here that could confirm that this is going to be in the released platform, it's just that I don't know the answer. ~clark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:48 AM, ppmoore polom...@gmail.com wrote: Still a few rough edges to be fixed ;) - Executing emulator -wipe-data does not work (it needs an android virtual device to be specified) I still don't know if this option is needed (probably yes, because running eclipse with the new SDK doesn't start the emulator). - The release notes state that v0.8.0 of the Android toolkit plug-in used for r1.1 can also be used for r1.5. However, when I restart eclipse after updating the locatiion of the new SDK, a message pops up that the toolkit must be updated to v0.9.0. However, updating the Android plug-in indicates that 0.8.0 is the latest version of the plug-in. - Maybe because of these problems, eclipse does not start the emulator. I'll wait until the end of the month. Or you can read the doc below the download links at http://developer.android.com/sdk/preview/ There are sentences like The new SDK does not work with older Eclipse plugins (ADT 0.8), and One major change with the emulator is that now you must create an Android Virtual Device (AVD) before you run the emulator. that should make things more clear to you :) Note that ADT is not on the official update side, but you can download it from the link above. All the instructions are there. Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
However, in the specific case of acquiring mic audio, there may be an Android engineer here that could confirm that this is going to be in the released platform, it's just that I don't know the answer. Hmm, I sure hope that is a feature since it is listed as one of the new features in the early look of Android 1.5 SDK. Is it a bad idea to start working with these new features? I was hoping that was part of offering this early look, not just to test existing apps, but to get familiar with additions to the SDK. Either way, the early look SDK is allowing me to get raw audio from the phones mic and run it through an FFT. The test notes I was sending through are being analyzed by the FFT correctly, and I can say I am quite happy with the features so far. BTW, the emulator is great and should be used as a step in the testing/ debugging process but as an embedded developer, I value running things on the actual metal rather than trust the simulation/emulation, especially when it comes to performance. Regards, ~Clark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Sure, start testing your apps against the preview SDK. You can start using new API features, as long as you're aware that the 1.5 API is *not* finalized. Functionality could be added or removed and method signatures may change. Cheers, Justin Android Team @ Google On Apr 15, 11:07 am, clark clarkd...@gmail.com wrote: However, in the specific case of acquiring mic audio, there may be an Android engineer here that could confirm that this is going to be in the released platform, it's just that I don't know the answer. Hmm, I sure hope that is a feature since it is listed as one of the new features in the early look of Android 1.5 SDK. Is it a bad idea to start working with these new features? I was hoping that was part of offering this early look, not just to test existing apps, but to get familiar with additions to the SDK. Either way, the early look SDK is allowing me to get raw audio from the phones mic and run it through an FFT. The test notes I was sending through are being analyzed by the FFT correctly, and I can say I am quite happy with the features so far. BTW, the emulator is great and should be used as a step in the testing/ debugging process but as an embedded developer, I value running things on the actual metal rather than trust the simulation/emulation, especially when it comes to performance. Regards, ~Clark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
To Xav, Dave, JBQ, Dianne, Romain, and anyone else involved in getting this out there. THANK YOU. You may not literally get a thousand thank yous in your mail box, but it'll probably be said a thousand times in various ways by developers around the world. Al. --- * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * == Funky Android Limited is registered in England Wales with the company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. -Original Message- From: android-developers@googlegroups.com [mailto:android-develop...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Xavier Ducrohet Sent: 14 April 2009 00:31 To: android-developers@googlegroups.com; android-beginn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [android-developers] Early Look Android 1.5 SDK Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-android-15. html Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
+1 Al Sutton wrote: To Xav, Dave, JBQ, Dianne, Romain, and anyone else involved in getting this out there. THANK YOU. You may not literally get a thousand thank yous in your mail box, but it'll probably be said a thousand times in various ways by developers around the world. Al. --- * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * == Funky Android Limited is registered in England Wales with the company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. -Original Message- From: android-developers@googlegroups.com [mailto:android-develop...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Xavier Ducrohet Sent: 14 April 2009 00:31 To: android-developers@googlegroups.com; android-beginn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [android-developers] Early Look Android 1.5 SDK Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-android-15. html Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
+1 Thank you guys On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Pd lotusscr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Al Sutton wrote: To Xav, Dave, JBQ, Dianne, Romain, and anyone else involved in getting this out there. THANK YOU. You may not literally get a thousand thank yous in your mail box, but it'll probably be said a thousand times in various ways by developers around the world. Al. --- * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * == Funky Android Limited is registered in England Wales with the company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. -Original Message- From: android-developers@googlegroups.com [mailto:android-develop...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Xavier Ducrohet Sent: 14 April 2009 00:31 To: android-developers@googlegroups.com; android-beginn...@googlegroups.com Subject: [android-developers] Early Look Android 1.5 SDK Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-android-15 . html Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Great news! I had a lot of trouble installing the 1.1r1 Linux version on 64 bit fedora 11 beta (and I think there is the same trouble for fedora 10 and other distros). Is there any chance there will be a 64 bit package for linux? I posted a short tutorial on http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/5d16b9029724bb92/08d3a05f6179d197 For the 1.1r1 package and 64 bit Fedora 11 beta. Regards Per Jonsson On 14 Apr, 01:30, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at:http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-andr... Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Just found some of the feauters I've been looking for! Many thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
On Apr 14, 2:30 am, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at:http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-andr... Is ADP1 going to get official image, that is, will that be supported developer target platform for 1.5? -- Tero --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Hi Xav. Thanks! But I have questions. How can I build the same version by myself? Is it based on Master branch? Or Cupcake? Is it possible to build the same version for ADP1? I think it would be better to create new branch to avoid issues like 18 march issue. As example release1_5. BR, Vladimir Stepanov On Apr 14, 3:30 am, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at:http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-andr... Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
The latest cupcake source drop (done a few hours ago) matches the preview SDK. We're working to tag it. Note that this isn't release 1.5 of Android, it's just a code drop that matches an official preview SDK. It's not going to run on ADP1 as it lacks the proprietary files that are needed for that. JBQ On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Vladimir vladimir.stepan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Xav. Thanks! But I have questions. How can I build the same version by myself? Is it based on Master branch? Or Cupcake? Is it possible to build the same version for ADP1? I think it would be better to create new branch to avoid issues like 18 march issue. As example release1_5. BR, Vladimir Stepanov On Apr 14, 3:30 am, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at:http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-andr... Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. -- Jean-Baptiste M. JBQ Queru Android Engineer, Google. Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further warning. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Great news :) Thanks a lot! If I make a new app that use some of the new features in 1.5 will it be possible to make it available on the market for devices with 1.5 installed or higher? If so would it be possible to upload different versions of my app targeting different versions? Best regards Lorents Hildrum On 14 Apr, 01:30, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at:http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-andr... Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Great news, It's good to be able to see what's coming before it gets to the consumers but damn, it looks like this is not going to upgrade smoothly. hey ho. On Apr 14, 12:30 am, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at:http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-andr... Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Use android:minSdkVersion=3 in your manifest to say you require Cupcake features. I can't help with uploading different versions of an app to market. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Lorents iva...@gmail.com wrote: Great news :) Thanks a lot! If I make a new app that use some of the new features in 1.5 will it be possible to make it available on the market for devices with 1.5 installed or higher? If so would it be possible to upload different versions of my app targeting different versions? Best regards Lorents Hildrum On 14 Apr, 01:30, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-andr... Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: To Xav, Dave, JBQ, Dianne, Romain, and anyone else involved in getting this out there. THANK YOU. You may not literally get a thousand thank yous in your mail box, but it'll probably be said a thousand times in various ways by developers around the world. Here's a THOUSAND THANKS! to all Android engineers from the grumpiest dev on the list ;) Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
I recently flashed my phone with the firmware found on the upcoming HTC Saphire, which says it is version 1.5. Does anyone know if I will be able to try out the features from the 1.5 SDK with this phone? It would be great to test directly on the hardware rather than use an emulator. Also, I am willing to try other apps out on the actual hardware (if it indeed matches the features in the 1.5 SDK), so if any developer would like to know how their app performs, just shoot me a message. I'd be able to provide logcat info as well as screenshots. Regards, ~clark On Apr 14, 1:03 pm, Stoyan Damov stoyan.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: To Xav, Dave, JBQ, Dianne, Romain, and anyone else involved in getting this out there. THANK YOU. You may not literally get a thousand thank yous in your mail box, but it'll probably be said a thousand times in various ways by developers around the world. Here's a THOUSAND THANKS! to all Android engineers from the grumpiest dev on the list ;) Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Thanks a lot guys... thousands of heartiest appreciation to all Android Engineers.. Nithin On Apr 15, 2:56 am, clark clarkd...@gmail.com wrote: I recently flashed my phone with the firmware found on the upcoming HTC Saphire, which says it is version 1.5. Does anyone know if I will be able to try out the features from the 1.5 SDK with this phone? It would be great to test directly on the hardware rather than use an emulator. Also, I am willing to try other apps out on the actual hardware (if it indeed matches the features in the 1.5 SDK), so if any developer would like to know how their app performs, just shoot me a message. I'd be able to provide logcat info as well as screenshots. Regards, ~clark On Apr 14, 1:03 pm, Stoyan Damov stoyan.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote: To Xav, Dave, JBQ, Dianne, Romain, and anyone else involved in getting this out there. THANK YOU. You may not literally get a thousand thank yous in your mail box, but it'll probably be said a thousand times in various ways by developers around the world. Here's a THOUSAND THANKS! to all Android engineers from the grumpiest dev on the list ;) Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Holy!.. Much appreciated. Looks like we are getting heard. Downloading. Ivan Soto Fernandez Web Developer http://ivansotof.com On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-android-15.html Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Hey, thanks Xavier! I've read the blog but I am not clear re: backwards compatibility: Will apps currently built against 1.0 or 1.1 run on handsets released w/ 1.5, say the new keyboard-less devices? Or do we need to account for the changes in 1.5 and re-release? (This would be hell) JP On Apr 13, 4:57 pm, Ivan Soto ivanso...@gmail.com wrote: Holy!.. Much appreciated. Looks like we are getting heard. Downloading. Ivan Soto Fernandez Web Developerhttp://ivansotof.com On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-andr... Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 8:53 PM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, thanks Xavier! I've read the blog but I am not clear re: backwards compatibility: Will apps currently built against 1.0 or 1.1 run on handsets released w/ 1.5, say the new keyboard-less devices? Or do we need to account for the changes in 1.5 and re-release? (This would be hell) As long as you don't use private APIs you *should* be good (except for some minor permission changes.) That said, we fixed some bugs that may have some minor side effects. For instance, we changed the minimum size of some widgets in 1.5 that may impact on your layouts. This SDK contains both 1.1 and 1.5, so you should keep compiling your applications against Android 1.1 but test them on both 1.1 and 1.5 emulators. Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
OK - I was more looking beyond the release at hand and concerned about the real thing coming out. How about the build(s) that the carrier (s) deliver(s) to their customers eventually. Say their build is 1.5.x only (to safe space). Such a scenario would be disaster as the apps would be stuck in no-mans-land either running on the G1/1.1, or the new ones only, until all old G1/1.1 customers have received their carrier OTA update to reach 1.5.x. On Apr 13, 9:01 pm, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 8:53 PM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, thanks Xavier! I've read the blog but I am not clear re: backwards compatibility: Will apps currently built against 1.0 or 1.1 run on handsets released w/ 1.5, say the new keyboard-less devices? Or do we need to account for the changes in 1.5 and re-release? (This would be hell) As long as you don't use private APIs you *should* be good (except for some minor permission changes.) That said, we fixed some bugs that may have some minor side effects. For instance, we changed the minimum size of some widgets in 1.5 that may impact on your layouts. This SDK contains both 1.1 and 1.5, so you should keep compiling your applications against Android 1.1 but test them on both 1.1 and 1.5 emulators. Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
A major goal for releases since 1.0 is to not break existing applications that are using the official SDK. Some times there will be things that break, unintentionally, so you will want to test against current builds, but that should very much be the minority. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: OK - I was more looking beyond the release at hand and concerned about the real thing coming out. How about the build(s) that the carrier (s) deliver(s) to their customers eventually. Say their build is 1.5.x only (to safe space). Such a scenario would be disaster as the apps would be stuck in no-mans-land either running on the G1/1.1, or the new ones only, until all old G1/1.1 customers have received their carrier OTA update to reach 1.5.x. On Apr 13, 9:01 pm, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 8:53 PM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, thanks Xavier! I've read the blog but I am not clear re: backwards compatibility: Will apps currently built against 1.0 or 1.1 run on handsets released w/ 1.5, say the new keyboard-less devices? Or do we need to account for the changes in 1.5 and re-release? (This would be hell) As long as you don't use private APIs you *should* be good (except for some minor permission changes.) That said, we fixed some bugs that may have some minor side effects. For instance, we changed the minimum size of some widgets in 1.5 that may impact on your layouts. This SDK contains both 1.1 and 1.5, so you should keep compiling your applications against Android 1.1 but test them on both 1.1 and 1.5 emulators. Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
im new at this so should i stay with 1.1 or move to 1.5 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.comwrote: A major goal for releases since 1.0 is to not break existing applications that are using the official SDK. Some times there will be things that break, unintentionally, so you will want to test against current builds, but that should very much be the minority. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: OK - I was more looking beyond the release at hand and concerned about the real thing coming out. How about the build(s) that the carrier (s) deliver(s) to their customers eventually. Say their build is 1.5.x only (to safe space). Such a scenario would be disaster as the apps would be stuck in no-mans-land either running on the G1/1.1, or the new ones only, until all old G1/1.1 customers have received their carrier OTA update to reach 1.5.x. On Apr 13, 9:01 pm, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 8:53 PM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, thanks Xavier! I've read the blog but I am not clear re: backwards compatibility: Will apps currently built against 1.0 or 1.1 run on handsets released w/ 1.5, say the new keyboard-less devices? Or do we need to account for the changes in 1.5 and re-release? (This would be hell) As long as you don't use private APIs you *should* be good (except for some minor permission changes.) That said, we fixed some bugs that may have some minor side effects. For instance, we changed the minimum size of some widgets in 1.5 that may impact on your layouts. This SDK contains both 1.1 and 1.5, so you should keep compiling your applications against Android 1.1 but test them on both 1.1 and 1.5 emulators. Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- ^_^ Booy Sent from North Las Vegas, Nevada, United States --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Jamie Williams cou...@gmail.com wrote: im new at this so should i stay with 1.1 or move to 1.5 Stick to coding with 1.1 if you want to deploy to Market right now. If you have an existing app, make it run on the emulator for 1.5 to check that it will work against soon-to-be devices. As mentioned earlier, unless you have non-sdk hacks, you should be good. Note that if you want to try an existing app under the 1.5 emulator, you don't need to recompile it, you can just use adb install on your existing 1.1 APK. R/ On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: A major goal for releases since 1.0 is to not break existing applications that are using the official SDK. Some times there will be things that break, unintentionally, so you will want to test against current builds, but that should very much be the minority. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: OK - I was more looking beyond the release at hand and concerned about the real thing coming out. How about the build(s) that the carrier (s) deliver(s) to their customers eventually. Say their build is 1.5.x only (to safe space). Such a scenario would be disaster as the apps would be stuck in no-mans-land either running on the G1/1.1, or the new ones only, until all old G1/1.1 customers have received their carrier OTA update to reach 1.5.x. On Apr 13, 9:01 pm, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 8:53 PM, JP joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, thanks Xavier! I've read the blog but I am not clear re: backwards compatibility: Will apps currently built against 1.0 or 1.1 run on handsets released w/ 1.5, say the new keyboard-less devices? Or do we need to account for the changes in 1.5 and re-release? (This would be hell) As long as you don't use private APIs you *should* be good (except for some minor permission changes.) That said, we fixed some bugs that may have some minor side effects. For instance, we changed the minimum size of some widgets in 1.5 that may impact on your layouts. This SDK contains both 1.1 and 1.5, so you should keep compiling your applications against Android 1.1 but test them on both 1.1 and 1.5 emulators. Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- ^_^ Booy Sent from North Las Vegas, Nevada, United States --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Early Look Android 1.5 SDK
Sounds great. The beauty of a sometimes not totally transparent process is that you can get surprised ;-) On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Xavier Ducrohet x...@android.com wrote: Hello developers! I'm pleased to announce the release of an early look of the Android 1.5 SDK. More information and download link at: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/04/getting-ready-for-android-15.html Have fun! Xav -- Xavier Ducrohet Android Engineer, Google. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
