[android-developers] Re: New to Android

2013-05-04 Thread Vishal Pawale
http://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html

Go through the lessons.

On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:40:28 AM UTC+5:30, rlloyd wrote:

 I have a java file that I would like to incorporate in to an android 
 application. I'm not sure where in the code I put my java that I've made. I 
 use Eclipse with the newest SDKs. Where in the following code am I supposed 
 to input my code? Also, The code of mine takes input data, manipulates it, 
 and gives back 5 data sets (words, letters etc.). How on the interface 
 builder do I connect text boxes to use for input and output? I have used 
 xcode before but I am completely lost with the JAVA and the whole android 
 thing. I didn't think this would be a necessarily hard project though.

 Code that appears with new project:

 package com.example.f;

 import android.os.Bundle;
 import android.app.Activity;
 import android.view.Menu;

 public class DNA extends Activity {

 @Override
 protected void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState) {
 super.onCreate(savedInstanceState);
 setContentView(R.layout.activity_dn);
 }

 @Override
 public boolean onCreateOptionsMenu(Menu menu) {
 // Inflate the menu; this adds items to the action bar if it is present.
 getMenuInflater().inflate(R.menu.dn, menu);
 return true;
 }

 }


 My Code:

 Begins with:

 import java.util.Scanner;

 class beta

  { //entire program brackets

 public static void main (String[] args)

  { //meat of program

 Scanner scan = new Scanner( System.in );




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[android-developers] Re: New to Android

2013-05-03 Thread bob
 

You will want to put your code in a file called beta.java.


Then you can add this to your onCreate function:

*   *

*beta.main(null);*

*   *

*
*

*
*

Thanks.



On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:10:28 PM UTC-5, rlloyd wrote:

 I have a java file that I would like to incorporate in to an android 
 application. I'm not sure where in the code I put my java that I've made. I 
 use Eclipse with the newest SDKs. Where in the following code am I supposed 
 to input my code? Also, The code of mine takes input data, manipulates it, 
 and gives back 5 data sets (words, letters etc.). How on the interface 
 builder do I connect text boxes to use for input and output? I have used 
 xcode before but I am completely lost with the JAVA and the whole android 
 thing. I didn't think this would be a necessarily hard project though.

 Code that appears with new project:

 package com.example.f;

 import android.os.Bundle;
 import android.app.Activity;
 import android.view.Menu;

 public class DNA extends Activity {

 @Override
 protected void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState) {
 super.onCreate(savedInstanceState);
 setContentView(R.layout.activity_dn);
 }

 @Override
 public boolean onCreateOptionsMenu(Menu menu) {
 // Inflate the menu; this adds items to the action bar if it is present.
 getMenuInflater().inflate(R.menu.dn, menu);
 return true;
 }

 }


 My Code:

 Begins with:

 import java.util.Scanner;

 class beta

  { //entire program brackets

 public static void main (String[] args)

  { //meat of program

 Scanner scan = new Scanner( System.in );




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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to Android

2013-05-03 Thread TreKing
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, bob b...@coolfone.comze.com wrote:

 You will want to put your code in a file called beta.java.


 Then you can add this to your onCreate function:

 *   *

 *beta.main(null);*

 *   *


That's a joke, right?

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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to Android App Development need Advice in Designing UI

2012-10-17 Thread Anees Thyrantakath
Thanks for the information..i'll check it out

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android App Development need Advice in Designing UI

2012-10-16 Thread Mek's Sree Rama
Hello Aadi,

Have you tried with compatible jar for fragments and action bar.

The compatible jar works well with version 2.3 API level 10.

FYI.
 

On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 12:39:08 PM UTC+5:30, Aadi Rockzz wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 I'm going to develop an application for Android2.2 platform. I have some 
 doubts while started creating UI Screen for my application.

 - In my one UI i have 10 Text Views and 10 edit-text and i wanted 
 to accommodate One List View also in my UI but i felt difficulty while 
 adding ListView in my UI.

 Please Help me by giving suggestions.

 Thanks in Advance.
 Aadi 


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[android-developers] Re: New to Android App Development need Advice in Designing UI

2012-10-12 Thread avluis
While I do not like to advertize for anyone, except maybe friends, I have 
been using this here:
CommonsWare http://commonsware.com/
It may be the very best I have come across to getting me started on android 
app development.
And they just updated to version 4.2.

On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 2:09:08 AM UTC-5, Aadi Rockzz wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 I'm going to develop an application for Android2.2 platform. I have some 
 doubts while started creating UI Screen for my application.

 - In my one UI i have 10 Text Views and 10 edit-text and i wanted 
 to accommodate One List View also in my UI but i felt difficulty while 
 adding ListView in my UI.

 Please Help me by giving suggestions.

 Thanks in Advance.
 Aadi 


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[android-developers] Re: New to android development

2012-08-23 Thread Mickaël Gachon
It is an eclipse problem. It happens when you try to run an application 
juste after modifiying a .xml file.
You need to remove the .out.xml file created.
Then simply click on your project name in the project tree in eclipse and 
run it.

Le samedi 18 août 2012 23:21:02 UTC+2, Saudademaru Envy a écrit :

 So I have the android SDK and eclipse and I wanted to try to make my first 
 app.  Of course I followed the directions on the lessons about starting the 
 hello world, then the one after that.  Well now I can't seem to make 
 anything.  When I start something new, I may change some names of the 
 activity, app name and stuff just to something different and as soon as the 
 app is created it should be a simple hello world but I can't seem to 
 compile it or test it.  As soon as I try it gives me an error having to do 
 with the layout xml file.  It creates another one with the same name but 
 also with a .out before the .xml then it tells me it is already defined. 
  Does anyone know what the problem is?  I will post a link so you can 
 download my source files to check.  It also says no xml content but my 
 original file did have content.  I even tried the one where we make a text 
 box and button but it still says that for some reason

 https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B4I48TCTXOKFQ1k0ekZZc2VLWDg


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[android-developers] Re: New to android..which API to choose?

2012-07-26 Thread RichardC
http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html 

On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:27:19 PM UTC+1, Carlos Oneil wrote:

 Im new to android programming and would like to know is it best to build 
 apps on the latest API or the one that has the broadest deployment ?  If i 
 develop a ICS based app, will it run on a Gingerbread device?
 Thanks.


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[android-developers] Re: new to android

2011-05-25 Thread Ali Chousein
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html

Everything is explained on this web site.

Good luck and enjoy it.

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RE: [android-developers] Re: new to android

2011-05-25 Thread Tommy
It would also help to have an understanding of Java or at least some type of
OOP experience... If you have none I'd start with learning some basics of
java and OOP. Or if you are a fast learner just go through the tutorials and
examples. 

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http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html

Everything is explained on this web site.

Good luck and enjoy it.

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android

2011-05-03 Thread brainray
Hello,

how about here:

http://developer.android.com/resources/browser.html?tag=tutorial

Cheers

Ray

On May 1, 3:46 pm, sudharsanan kodi.su...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Guys
                I am new to android application development,can you
 people help to me to develop the application?and also where i can get
 the sample application?

 Thanks in advance

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[android-developers] Re: new to Android wrld and I need some tips

2011-04-29 Thread Ahmad Alturki
thanks imsopov,

I found some recommendation forAndroid Application Development For Dummies. 


Any thought from others please 

Thanks in advance

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[android-developers] Re: new to Android wrld and I need some tips

2011-04-29 Thread bala krishna
Hi Ahmad,

  You can find amazing videos at marakana.com provided by the author
of learning android.

Regards,
Bala

On Apr 29, 5:59 pm, Ahmad Alturki alturkiah...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks imsopov,

 I found some recommendation forAndroid Application Development For Dummies.

 Any thought from others please

 Thanks in advance

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[android-developers] Re: new to Android wrld and I need some tips

2011-04-29 Thread Kittoes
THIS! I found the videos on Marakana.com to be exceptional. There's a lot of 
good stuff in there to learn Android from the ground up, especially if 
you're well-versed in Java already.

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[android-developers] Re: new to Android wrld and I need some tips

2011-04-29 Thread Ahmad Alturki
thanks all,

are these courses free

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[android-developers] Re: new to Android wrld and I need some tips

2011-04-28 Thread imsopov
Personally I started using Sam's teach yourself android application
development I found it to be very useful for the teaching me the
basics, it starts off slow and had downloadable code for each section
of the book which helps.

This was written for 2.1 but will still be relevant

On Apr 29, 1:49 pm, Ahmad Alturki alturkiah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks

 I am very interested in developing application for smart phones like
 Galaxy,HTC but the problem I do not know where I start. I want to start from
 basics to advance concepts. I want to understand how underpinning things
 work and are related.

 Is there a good book to start from ... I 
 checkedhttp://developer.android.combut I could not see the smoothness between
 sections like in some books.

 Kindly I beg your help and expertise

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android Need Help

2011-04-22 Thread edprog
No not offended, thank you very much for the input.. it really helped,
but now i need to figure out how to make the images swap on their own
when the system is playing  (I am trying to do simon says) for my
son :)

Here is the improved code

public class GameActivity extends Activity {
/** Called when the activity is first created. */

ImageView imageView1;
ImageView imageView2;
ImageView imageView3;
ImageView imageView4;

@Override
public void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState) {
super.onCreate(savedInstanceState);

setContentView(R.layout.myviewlay);
imageView1= (ImageView)findViewById(R.id.ImageView01);
imageView2= (ImageView)findViewById(R.id.ImageView02);
imageView3= (ImageView)findViewById(R.id.ImageView03);
imageView4= (ImageView)findViewById(R.id.ImageView04);

imageView1.setOnTouchListener(mTouchListener);
imageView2.setOnTouchListener(mTouchListener);
imageView3.setOnTouchListener(mTouchListener);
imageView4.setOnTouchListener(mTouchListener);


}
 private OnTouchListener mTouchListener = new OnTouchListener() {
public boolean onTouch(View v, MotionEvent event) {
if (event.getAction() == MotionEvent.ACTION_DOWN) {

  v.setVisibility(View.INVISIBLE);
  try {
Thread.sleep(100);
} catch (InterruptedException e) {
// TODO Auto-generated catch block
e.printStackTrace();
  }
}
else
{
 try {
Thread.sleep(100);
} catch (InterruptedException e) {
// TODO Auto-generated catch 
block
e.printStackTrace();
}
 v.setVisibility(View.VISIBLE);

}
return true;
}
};
}


On Apr 22, 1:56 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:30 AM, edprog edwin...@gmail.com wrote:
  public class myView extends View implements OnTouchListener{}

 Sure. Or a member in the Activity that you then set on the ImageViews.

 private mTouchListener = new OnTouchListener() { /* CODE */ }
 ...

 imageView1.setOnTouchListener(mTouchListener);
 imageView2.setOnTouchListener(mTouchListener);
 imageView3.setOnTouchListener(mTouchListener);
 imageView4.setOnTouchListener(mTouchListener);

 Then you're still within the scope of the Activity which is usually handy.

 I think,... and yes it is a mess because in the main Activity is where at

  least I was able to make the user click on the images and swap them with
  another one while I tried the same from the view it did not work... it just
  shows a black screen, and I tried to look it up in the LogCat but did not
  tell me something that i would pick up right away.

 Yeah, graphics stuff is always a pain to debug and there's not much anyone
 can do to help with graphical issues like that.

  Just on the side note.., I am new to android, at least give me that,...

 Given :-)

  you might be an expert..

 Hardly. I know what I need to know to do what I need to do. And I know where
 to look when I have to learn something new. ;-)

 Again, no offense, just going off what you said and the code you posted.
 Anyways, good luck.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to Android Need Help

2011-04-22 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:10 AM, edprog edwin...@gmail.com wrote:

 but now i need to figure out how to make the images swap on their own when
 the system is playing


Did you need help on that or are you just typing out loud?

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android Need Help

2011-04-22 Thread edprog
I think eventually i will need help hehe, as of now I will try to do
it see if I can figure it out. Now just one question do you recommend
to create the Thread in the main Activity or do it in a separate
class?

On Apr 22, 11:32 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:10 AM, edprog edwin...@gmail.com wrote:
  but now i need to figure out how to make the images swap on their own when
  the system is playing

 Did you need help on that or are you just typing out loud?

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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to Android Need Help

2011-04-22 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:42 PM, edprog edwin...@gmail.com wrote:

  Now just one question do you recommend to create the Thread in the main
 Activity or do it in a separate class?


Actually, neither. Don't use raw Threads unless you really have to. I don't
think you really have to here.
See this article:
http://developer.android.com/resources/articles/timed-ui-updates.html

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android Need Help

2011-04-21 Thread edprog
Basically I would like to draw from myView class and not from the main
Activity, right now I have the OnTouch events in the main Activity as
you can see, I want to move all that code (The ontiuch) to myView
class.


On Apr 21, 5:56 pm, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:38 PM, edprog edwin...@gmail.com wrote:
  what and how would I pass my code in the main activity so that it works
  from the View I created?

 That question makes no sense. What are you actually trying to do?

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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to Android Need Help

2011-04-21 Thread TreKing
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:47 PM, edprog edwin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Basically I would like to draw from myView class and not from the
 main Activity, right now I have the OnTouch events in the main Activity
 as you can see, I want to move all that code (The ontiuch) to myView class.


You're missing the fact that you can create *ONE* touchlistener class that
acts on an arbitrary view, then assign a new instance to each view that
requires it.

If this does not make sense, I think you need to spend some time brushing up
on Java.

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android Need Help

2011-04-21 Thread edprog
I understand java, inheritance, creating classes... I am just having
trouble making it work on Android, when i add a thread or something..
it blacks out the screen...

Thank you for the help

On Apr 22, 12:02 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:47 PM, edprog edwin...@gmail.com wrote:
  Basically I would like to draw from myView class and not from the
  main Activity, right now I have the OnTouch events in the main Activity
  as you can see, I want to move all that code (The ontiuch) to myView class.

 You're missing the fact that you can create *ONE* touchlistener class that
 acts on an arbitrary view, then assign a new instance to each view that
 requires it.

 If this does not make sense, I think you need to spend some time brushing up
 on Java.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to Android Need Help

2011-04-21 Thread TreKing
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:46 PM, edprog edwin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I understand java, inheritance, creating classes...


If you say so. No offense, but the fact that you called your own code a
mess and the fact that you copied and pasted the exact same code 4 times
instead of making a class would indicate that you're missing something. Did
you understand what I said in my last post?


 I am just having trouble making it work on Android, when i add a thread or
 something..


Android is another piece of software written in (quasi) Java. There's
nothing fundamentally different about it. This also doesn't explain what
you're actually having trouble with.


 it blacks out the screen...


OK. This also does not explain anything about the actual problem you're
having.

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android Need Help

2011-04-21 Thread edprog
Yes I did thank you, no its ok.. I am new in graphs that i can tell
you... all this is new.. drawing and stuff.

I know what you are saying.. to create something like

public class myView extends View implements OnTouchListener{}

I think,... and yes it is a mess because in the main Activity is where
at least I was able to make the user click on the images and swap them
with another one while I tried the same from the view it did not
work... it just shows a black screen, and I tried to look it up in the
LogCat but did not tell me something that i would pick up right away.

Just on the side note.., I am new to android, at least give me
that,... you might be an expert.. all i am trying to do is to learn
how to place 4 images and be to change them.. I am trying to make a
small game for my son, simon says... something to start learning..
Thats all!

Thank you once again...

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 On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:46 PM, edprog edwin...@gmail.com wrote:
  I understand java, inheritance, creating classes...

 If you say so. No offense, but the fact that you called your own code a
 mess and the fact that you copied and pasted the exact same code 4 times
 instead of making a class would indicate that you're missing something. Did
 you understand what I said in my last post?

  I am just having trouble making it work on Android, when i add a thread or
  something..

 Android is another piece of software written in (quasi) Java. There's
 nothing fundamentally different about it. This also doesn't explain what
 you're actually having trouble with.

  it blacks out the screen...

 OK. This also does not explain anything about the actual problem you're
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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to Android Need Help

2011-04-21 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:30 AM, edprog edwin...@gmail.com wrote:

 public class myView extends View implements OnTouchListener{}


Sure. Or a member in the Activity that you then set on the ImageViews.

private mTouchListener = new OnTouchListener() { /* CODE */ }
...

imageView1.setOnTouchListener(mTouchListener);
imageView2.setOnTouchListener(mTouchListener);
imageView3.setOnTouchListener(mTouchListener);
imageView4.setOnTouchListener(mTouchListener);

Then you're still within the scope of the Activity which is usually handy.

I think,... and yes it is a mess because in the main Activity is where at
 least I was able to make the user click on the images and swap them with
 another one while I tried the same from the view it did not work... it just
 shows a black screen, and I tried to look it up in the LogCat but did not
 tell me something that i would pick up right away.


Yeah, graphics stuff is always a pain to debug and there's not much anyone
can do to help with graphical issues like that.


 Just on the side note.., I am new to android, at least give me that,...


Given :-)


 you might be an expert..


Hardly. I know what I need to know to do what I need to do. And I know where
to look when I have to learn something new. ;-)

Again, no offense, just going off what you said and the code you posted.
Anyways, good luck.

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[android-developers] Re: new to android..............

2011-03-08 Thread Antony Keerthy
You can follow that link http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html

after getting the sdk and all, you can follow this link
http://android-codes-examples.blogspot.com/2011/02/running-emulator-from-eclipse.html

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 as i am a newly introduced to android  and i'm finding it difficult to
 install android adt tools,eclipse,sdk...
 so if anyone help me about complete installation ..i'll be very greatfull.

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[android-developers] Re: new to android..............

2011-03-07 Thread Onkar Dhane,Trainee Software Developer,Alphabricks Technology pvt. ltd
Hi,follow this link.they have given which revision is supported
for which SDK n all..
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html

if you have difficulty again let me know
Thanks

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[android-developers] Re: new to android..............

2011-03-05 Thread lbendlin

What have you tried? And are you running Windows, Linux or OSX?

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android - Can't add Platform

2010-11-04 Thread Hari
Hi James,
 I followed the instruction here 
http://developer.android.com/sdk/eclipse-adt.html#installing
and it worked for me.
BTW, I had my android installed at :C:\Android\android-sdk-windows .
not sure if long paths would make a difference

thanks,
 hari.

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 I am running into errors while setting up my environment using Eclipse
 Galileo. It appears to have loaded Eclipse and the SDK ok as I can see
 the Android Icon in the About Eclipse and the Android SDK and AVD
 Manager appear in the Window dropdown list.

 But when trying to add platforms in Window-Preferences its says:
 Location of the Android SDK has not been setup in preferences.

 I selected Android on the left and tried to add: C:\Documents and
 Settings\thomasji\My Documents\Android\android-sdk-windows
 but nothing is populated in the list of SDK targets when I click
 apply. Nothing happens.

 Please help.

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android - Can't add Platform

2010-11-01 Thread Peter Webb
Setting up the Eclipse environment correctly is not easy. I have done
it 3 times now, and seen this error a few times.

I think that you have to install ADT first, and then use this to
import the SDK.

The other thing I vaguely remember is that the load preferences
command looks for .zip or something else (.tar ???), and pointing it
at a folder will not work - you need to point at the original zip
file.

At least take heart you are almost there 


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 Galileo. It appears to have loaded Eclipse and the SDK ok as I can see
 the Android Icon in the About Eclipse and the Android SDK and AVD
 Manager appear in the Window dropdown list.

 But when trying to add platforms in Window-Preferences its says:
 Location of the Android SDK has not been setup in preferences.

 I selected Android on the left and tried to add: C:\Documents and
 Settings\thomasji\My Documents\Android\android-sdk-windows
 but nothing is populated in the list of SDK targets when I click
 apply. Nothing happens.

 Please help.

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android and programming

2010-08-26 Thread Peter Webb

I would go further than that.

If the OP has no programming experience, then Java/Android is an
almost impossible starting point:

1. The online doco is hopeless. Yes, as you say they all assume a
pretty high level knowledge of Java to start with. Worse, for the
beginner, is that unlike some other IDEs/environments I won't mention,
the class library doco doesn't provide full functioning programs or
even code snippets illustrating use. And these are hard and sometimes
impossible to find.

2. Teach yourself OO programming? Are you kidding? Teaching yourself
Fortran, C, Pascal etc is hard enough, and Java/C#/C++ are that
squared. It would be easier to learn C, then jump from there into
Java. And Android isn't just Java, its XML as well. Learn all that
when you have never written a program in your life?

3. The environment is that much harder and slower to use because of
the indirectness of cross-compling and running an emulator. When
people first start coding, they are testing changes on a line-by-line
basis, and the whole emulator thing is even more of a PITA.

I love this stuff, don't get me wrong, and a lot of it is complicated
and difficult because it has to be, but I can't think of a more
difficult environment to learn programming for the first time than
Java/Eclipse/Android.




On Aug 26, 11:42 am, Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I'd even go one step of certainty further: it will definitely be a
 frustrating experience unless he learns enough Java first. Too many of
 the sample programs, whether in forums, in books on Android, or in the
 official Google tutorial, all use constructs that will otherwise
 appear mysterious and obscure, such as anonymous classes for Event
 Listeners, final static Strings for constants...

 But he does not need black belt level mastery of Java before starting
 Android. Orange belt is good enough;)

 On Aug 24, 5:29 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 
 2010 at 1:32 AM, Droidblazer00 weilache...@gmail.comwrote:

   So would it be better for me to learn Java before getting started with the
   SDK and eclipse? Or is it just the same to jump right
   in on App development and learn on the fly?

  Well, it's definitely not the same, but whether it's better really
  depends.
  Do you have other programming experience? Are you good at learning quickly
  on your own?

  If no to either, probably a good idea to take some time to learn Java on
  it's own. It has some quirks you need to learn. Android has quirks you need
  to learn. Depending on your background, learning both those quirks, at the
  same time, will be an exercise in frustration.

  Good luck.

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android and programming

2010-08-26 Thread DanH
Teach yourself OO programming? Are you kidding?

The only programming class I ever had was one in Fortran, yet I know
OO inside and out (literally).  I'll agree that I don't get a lot of
the UML stuff, but that's more because I can see flaws in it.

But that's 40 years of experience.  I'll agree that one isn't going to
pick up OO in a few weeks, especially not starting out on Android.
I would say that one needs at least 6 months of fairly intensive
practice with other programming paradigms before advancing to Android.

Or contact Tim. ;)

On Aug 26, 2:53 am, Peter Webb r.peter.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would go further than that.

 If the OP has no programming experience, then Java/Android is an
 almost impossible starting point:

 1. The online doco is hopeless. Yes, as you say they all assume a
 pretty high level knowledge of Java to start with. Worse, for the
 beginner, is that unlike some other IDEs/environments I won't mention,
 the class library doco doesn't provide full functioning programs or
 even code snippets illustrating use. And these are hard and sometimes
 impossible to find.

 2. Teach yourself OO programming? Are you kidding? Teaching yourself
 Fortran, C, Pascal etc is hard enough, and Java/C#/C++ are that
 squared. It would be easier to learn C, then jump from there into
 Java. And Android isn't just Java, its XML as well. Learn all that
 when you have never written a program in your life?

 3. The environment is that much harder and slower to use because of
 the indirectness of cross-compling and running an emulator. When
 people first start coding, they are testing changes on a line-by-line
 basis, and the whole emulator thing is even more of a PITA.

 I love this stuff, don't get me wrong, and a lot of it is complicated
 and difficult because it has to be, but I can't think of a more
 difficult environment to learn programming for the first time than
 Java/Eclipse/Android.

 On Aug 26, 11:42 am, Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I'd even go one step of certainty further: it will definitely be a
  frustrating experience unless he learns enough Java first. Too many of
  the sample programs, whether in forums, in books on Android, or in the
  official Google tutorial, all use constructs that will otherwise
  appear mysterious and obscure, such as anonymous classes for Event
  Listeners, final static Strings for constants...

  But he does not need black belt level mastery of Java before starting
  Android. Orange belt is good enough;)

  On Aug 24, 5:29 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 
  2010 at 1:32 AM, Droidblazer00 weilache...@gmail.comwrote:

So would it be better for me to learn Java before getting started with 
the
SDK and eclipse? Or is it just the same to jump right
in on App development and learn on the fly?

   Well, it's definitely not the same, but whether it's better really
   depends.
   Do you have other programming experience? Are you good at learning quickly
   on your own?

   If no to either, probably a good idea to take some time to learn Java on
   it's own. It has some quirks you need to learn. Android has quirks you 
   need
   to learn. Depending on your background, learning both those quirks, at the
   same time, will be an exercise in frustration.

   Good luck.

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android Programming

2010-08-25 Thread Tim
Dear Dave,

If you are new to Android and the complexities of Java, you may wish
to consider another approach to Android development such as our
MobiForms rapid application development tool.

MobiForms replaces the need to download 100's MB of files, configure
Eclipse, learn the Android SDK, Java and XML.

MobiForms is ideal for novice or expert programmers alike you do not
want to spend hours learning a low level language like Java. MobiForms
offers one compact tool for development and deployment with most
programming done with drag and drop.

MobiForms is the world's first rapid application development tool
designed for Google Android smartphones. Additionally MobiForms apps
will run on other platforms such as Windows Mobile without any
changes.

MobiForms is ideal for creating database orientated business apps.
Apps that would traditionally take hours or days to create can be
generated in minutes with MobiForms.

For more information please have a look at http://www.mobiforms.com

Kind regards,

Tim @ MobiForms

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android and programming

2010-08-25 Thread Indicator Veritatis
I'd even go one step of certainty further: it will definitely be a
frustrating experience unless he learns enough Java first. Too many of
the sample programs, whether in forums, in books on Android, or in the
official Google tutorial, all use constructs that will otherwise
appear mysterious and obscure, such as anonymous classes for Event
Listeners, final static Strings for constants...

But he does not need black belt level mastery of Java before starting
Android. Orange belt is good enough;)

On Aug 24, 5:29 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Droidblazer00 weilache...@gmail.comwrote:

  So would it be better for me to learn Java before getting started with the
  SDK and eclipse? Or is it just the same to jump right
  in on App development and learn on the fly?

 Well, it's definitely not the same, but whether it's better really
 depends.
 Do you have other programming experience? Are you good at learning quickly
 on your own?

 If no to either, probably a good idea to take some time to learn Java on
 it's own. It has some quirks you need to learn. Android has quirks you need
 to learn. Depending on your background, learning both those quirks, at the
 same time, will be an exercise in frustration.

 Good luck.

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android and programming

2010-08-25 Thread DanH
Heck, the examples are mysterious and obscure even if you've worked
with Java for 12 years!

On Aug 25, 8:42 pm, Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I'd even go one step of certainty further: it will definitely be a
 frustrating experience unless he learns enough Java first. Too many of
 the sample programs, whether in forums, in books on Android, or in the
 official Google tutorial, all use constructs that will otherwise
 appear mysterious and obscure, such as anonymous classes for Event
 Listeners, final static Strings for constants...

 But he does not need black belt level mastery of Java before starting
 Android. Orange belt is good enough;)

 On Aug 24, 5:29 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Droidblazer00 weilache...@gmail.comwrote:

   So would it be better for me to learn Java before getting started with the
   SDK and eclipse? Or is it just the same to jump right
   in on App development and learn on the fly?

  Well, it's definitely not the same, but whether it's better really
  depends.
  Do you have other programming experience? Are you good at learning quickly
  on your own?

  If no to either, probably a good idea to take some time to learn Java on
  it's own. It has some quirks you need to learn. Android has quirks you need
  to learn. Depending on your background, learning both those quirks, at the
  same time, will be an exercise in frustration.

  Good luck.

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android and programming

2010-08-24 Thread msacks
The best way to learn, is by doing, as in just write apps with no
prior experience. There are many introductory Java tutorials and
Android tutorials (official and unofficial) online for free. You can
also buy books or take a course. I spent 4 years (and a lot of money)
in college working on a Bachelor of Science in Information Technology,
and I didn't learn as much as I did just from writing apps.

I wrote this article to help folk like you get started, so that at
least you can have a full toolbox to start playing around with some
demo apps.
http://www.thebitsource.com/featured-posts/getting-started-with-the-android-sdk-in-10-minutes/

I hope it helps.

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 I'll likely echo what TreKing said.  While it's definitely possible to jump
 in without prior Java experience, even just a bit, it will be hard.  That
 kind of hurdle often knocks someone's interest off the rails.

 While this won't directly answer your question, it's related and might help
 you or someone else.  I've come to the mailing list a few times and have
 seen people asking very basic Java questions, or even some intermediate
 questions.  The issue then becomes their ability to design, from a technical
 perspective, their application even when they get their Java problem solved.
  I think having that Java background gives you the freedom to think about
 how you're structuring your Android application for reuse and performance.
  While it's not a requirement to do that, it absolutely helps when adding
 new features and maintaining existing code.

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  On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Droidblazer00 weilache...@gmail.comwrote:

  So would it be better for me to learn Java before getting started with the
  SDK and eclipse? Or is it just the same to jump right
  in on App development and learn on the fly?

  Well, it's definitely not the same, but whether it's better really
  depends.
  Do you have other programming experience? Are you good at learning quickly
  on your own?

  If no to either, probably a good idea to take some time to learn Java on
  it's own. It has some quirks you need to learn. Android has quirks you need
  to learn. Depending on your background, learning both those quirks, at the
  same time, will be an exercise in frustration.

  Good luck.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to Android and programming

2010-08-24 Thread TreKing
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:22 AM, msacks ntw...@gmail.com wrote:

 The best way to learn, is by doing, as in just write apps with no prior
 experience.


If no prior experience means you have never programmed, you've never heard
of Eclipse, and you haven't touched the SDK, you're simply not going to jump
straight into writing an app. You could certainly try, but good luck
understanding the Android Activity Lifecycle before you know what a class
is.

I agree that the best way to learn is to do, but there are steps involved in
what you do and what you learn. If you put the cart before the horse, you're
going to step in it's manure ... or whatever the saying is.


 I spent 4 years (and a lot of money) in college working on a Bachelor of
 Science in Information Technology, and I didn't learn as much as I did
 just from writing apps.


I'm willing to bet though that in those 4 years you learned enough to allow
you to get started writing apps.


  I wrote this article to help folk like you get started, so that at least
 you can have a full toolbox to start playing around with some demo apps.

 http://www.thebitsource.com/featured-posts/getting-started-with-the-android
 -sdk-in-10-minutes/


Nice article indeed (good work), but again, if the OP has no programming
experience at all (which he hasn't clarified), all the playing around with
demo apps isn't going to help until he understands the language.

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android and programming

2010-08-24 Thread DanH
If indeed you are new to programming I'd suggest you see if you can
take a college course somewhere on intro programming.  At the very
least you should find yourself a good Java Self Taught book and get
through at least the first few chapters.

While much of Android programming isn't really programming in the
conventional sense, you still need a solid basis in programming
fundamentals in order to make progress with Android.  I think some
people here have managed sort of OK without any formal programming
background, but they tend to be the ones asking stupid question and
writing porn apps, not the ones doing productive work.

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 HI everyone,
 as the title says i'm new to the Android community, and i don't have
 much experience on the development side either. but i am very
 interested in getting started.  I see that Android apps are based off
 of Java... So would it be better for me to learn Java before getting
 started with the SDK and eclipse? Or is it just the same to jump right
 in on App development and learn on the fly? Thank you for the help

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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-18 Thread Phill Wiggin
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:48 AM, String sterling.ud...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Aug 4, 8:51 pm, Tommy droi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Why should a user have to go out of the way to
  figure out how to use ADB to do this.

 A user shouldn't have to. I absolutely agree with you, and think it's
 pretty crappy of ATT to have done this.


Well, even though ATT removed the settings option, they didn't actually
disable sideloading entirely. I've used the Android Central Sideload Wonder
Machine with the Captivate and it works great. (As long as you're using .Net
4.0+)

Windows:
http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine

Linux/Mac:
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-central-sideload-wonder-machine-linux-and-mac-talented-forum-member

(Don't let the irreverence of the name deter you. It was a name that came
out during one of their podcasts and stuck.)


However, the OP asked about a dev phone, and [as a dev] he will be
 using ADB already. This wasn't a discussion about end-user experience,
 hence I felt inclined to post my counterpoint. Not trying to start a
 fight, just trying to stay on topic. :^)

 String


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[android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-05 Thread String
On Aug 5, 12:04 am, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:

 Bear in mind, though, that you can't test installs this way, in terms
 of seeing what the user will see (e.g., security screens).

OK, that's a fair point. However, that aspect can be accurately tested
on the emulator.

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[android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-04 Thread Jeremiah Sellars
I would recommend the Captivate. It's Hummingbird processor is very
nice (basically the same as what is in the IPhone 4... samsung sold
them their chips as I understand it... though the IPhone 4 SOC has one
other component (though CPU and GPU are the same)). If it's okay to
say it now... it is rootable (legally I suppose as things are now...)
and I'm quite happy with it. The driver setup, however, to get it
hooked up to my computer was a tad difficult... but it is the one and
only Android device worth getting on ATT. The Aria (forget the
manufacturer) is nice, but doesn't have the same caliber of CPU.

On Jul 7, 10:17 am, Martin martinj...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would love to start developing for Android- I am currently on the
 ATT network. How does one acquire a test device?

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RE: [android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-04 Thread Tommy
STAY AWAY FROM ATT WITH ANDROID IF YOU CAN!!! I currently own the HTC
Aria with ATT. Don't get me wrong HTC makes great phones I love the aria.
BUT ATT had to go in and fiddle with everything totally locking down their
android phones just like an IphoneWhats the point? Unless you feel like
rooting the phone which will void your warranty you will not be able to
download whatever apps you want unless they are from the Market app. I am
very disappointed in ATT. I also owned a Moto Backflip before I yelled
enough they game me the HTC. Backflip = 1 giant POS btw don't even bother
same on MOTO and Massive shame on ATT for marketing it in such horrible
conditionandroid OS 1.5 WTF? Honestly you could go to Verizon and get
the new droid  X for a 149.99 with a 2 year contract


This is my personally Experience as I also own a Droid with Verizon and I
can tell you Verizon  ATT when it comes to android. I hope this helps you
make an informed decision and not get bent over the bench like me.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:42 AM
To: Android Developers
Subject: [android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

I would recommend the Captivate. It's Hummingbird processor is very
nice (basically the same as what is in the IPhone 4... samsung sold
them their chips as I understand it... though the IPhone 4 SOC has one
other component (though CPU and GPU are the same)). If it's okay to
say it now... it is rootable (legally I suppose as things are now...)
and I'm quite happy with it. The driver setup, however, to get it
hooked up to my computer was a tad difficult... but it is the one and
only Android device worth getting on ATT. The Aria (forget the
manufacturer) is nice, but doesn't have the same caliber of CPU.

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 I would love to start developing for Android- I am currently on the
 ATT network. How does one acquire a test device?

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[android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-04 Thread A Curious Developer
 You can also buy a developer 
 device:http://android.brightstarcorp.com/index.htm.
 Honestly though, the dev phone 2, while unlocked (and perfect for
 ATT) is a bit pricey for the hardware you get. The N1 is a better
 option IMO:http://www.google.com/phone(there is an ATT version,
 while they last, but not cheap).

Can we use *any* Android-based phone for testing and debugging?
That is, can we download, run, and debug our applications from the
Eclipse environment?
Can we do that with just the device itself and no phone service?

I would like to test on at least 2 real devices, but probably can't
afford any service plan at all.

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[android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-04 Thread A Curious Developer
 Can we use *any* Android-based phone for testing and debugging?
 That is, can we download, run, and debug our applications from the
 Eclipse environment?

The Dev Guide actually answers this one as yes:
You can use any Android-powered device as an environment for running,
debugging, and testing your applications. The tools included in the
SDK make it easy to install and run your application on the device
each time you compile.

So if I buy a ridiculously expensive Droid from amazon.com, with no
service, will I be able to download, run, and debug on it?

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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-04 Thread Mark Murphy
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:40 PM, A Curious Developer imdb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Can we use *any* Android-based phone for testing and debugging?

Any that has the Android Market on it should be safe.

 That is, can we download, run, and debug our applications from the
 Eclipse environment?

See above.

 Can we do that with just the device itself and no phone service?

Yes, though some phones may require phone service with a data plan to
get the phone up and running. If you choose a GSM phone, all you need
to do is borrow a friend's SIM for five minutes, long enough for you
to get the phone activated and get WiFi working, and then you no
longer need the SIM.

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[android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-04 Thread String
On Aug 4, 6:41 pm, Tommy droi...@gmail.com wrote:

 BUT ATT had to go in and fiddle with everything totally locking down their
 android phones just like an IphoneWhats the point? Unless you feel like
 rooting the phone which will void your warranty you will not be able to
 download whatever apps you want unless they are from the Market app.

I'm no friend of ATT, and am as disappointed as anyone about the
restrictions they've put on all their Android phones to date, but
please get your facts straight before launching into a rant. They've
only disabled installing non-Market apps using the phone itself;
there's nothing stopping you from pushing APKs onto the phone using
ADB. And someone's even written a Windows application to do that.

For a dev phone, an ATT 'set is not intrinsically a bad choice.
Except, perhaps, on ethical grounds.

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RE: [android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-04 Thread Tommy
I realize that you can push apps to the phone but you shouldn't have to,
that is the point of my rant. Why should a user have to go out of the way to
figure out how to use ADB to do this. 

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[mailto:android-develop...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of String
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:24 PM
To: Android Developers
Subject: [android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

On Aug 4, 6:41 pm, Tommy droi...@gmail.com wrote:

 BUT ATT had to go in and fiddle with everything totally locking down
their
 android phones just like an IphoneWhats the point? Unless you feel
like
 rooting the phone which will void your warranty you will not be able to
 download whatever apps you want unless they are from the Market app.

I'm no friend of ATT, and am as disappointed as anyone about the
restrictions they've put on all their Android phones to date, but
please get your facts straight before launching into a rant. They've
only disabled installing non-Market apps using the phone itself;
there's nothing stopping you from pushing APKs onto the phone using
ADB. And someone's even written a Windows application to do that.

For a dev phone, an ATT 'set is not intrinsically a bad choice.
Except, perhaps, on ethical grounds.

String

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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-04 Thread Mark Murphy
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 3:24 PM, String sterling.ud...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I'm no friend of ATT, and am as disappointed as anyone about the
 restrictions they've put on all their Android phones to date, but
 please get your facts straight before launching into a rant. They've
 only disabled installing non-Market apps using the phone itself;
 there's nothing stopping you from pushing APKs onto the phone using
 ADB. And someone's even written a Windows application to do that.

Bear in mind, though, that you can't test installs this way, in terms
of seeing what the user will see (e.g., security screens). The Windows
app presumably uses the same mechanism as the SDK, and therefore
probably does not prompt the user for security-related stuff.

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[android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-04 Thread JP


On Aug 4, 11:46 am, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:40 PM, A Curious Developer imdb...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Can we use *any* Android-based phone for testing and debugging?

 Any that has the Android Market on it should be safe.


Reportedly, some devices do not push logs out through the USB port.
Those are rather helpful, contain stack traces and your strategic
logs.
Also, you typically need the proper drivers for your development
environment. Make sure you can get those.  And if you wish to pull
screenshots from the device, don't bother with a Motorola Milestone/
Verizon Driod; can't do it (at least when they were running 2.1), in
my experience.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-04 Thread Shane Isbell
You really need at least two devices for testing. High-end 2.1+ devices and
a pre-2.0 device. I find that the emulator does a good job of matching
pre-2.0 device behavior but you can get really burned trusting the emulator
to behave the same for the later devices. I've found differences between the
emulator and the device, in everything from NPE's being thrown on the device
to completely different layouts in the UI.

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.comwrote:

 On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:40 PM, A Curious Developer imdb...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Can we use *any* Android-based phone for testing and debugging?

 Any that has the Android Market on it should be safe.

  That is, can we download, run, and debug our applications from the
  Eclipse environment?

 See above.

  Can we do that with just the device itself and no phone service?

 Yes, though some phones may require phone service with a data plan to
 get the phone up and running. If you choose a GSM phone, all you need
 to do is borrow a friend's SIM for five minutes, long enough for you
 to get the phone activated and get WiFi working, and then you no
 longer need the SIM.

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[android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-08-04 Thread JP


On Aug 4, 9:06 pm, Shane Isbell shane.isb...@gmail.com wrote:
 You really need at least two devices for testing. High-end 2.1+ devices and
 a pre-2.0 device. I find that the emulator does a good job of matching
 pre-2.0 device behavior but you can get really burned trusting the emulator
 to behave the same for the later devices. I've found differences between the
 emulator and the device, in everything from NPE's being thrown on the device
 to completely different layouts in the UI.

This pretty much matches my experience. The more devices, the merrier,
but two seems a decently reasonable setup.  Considerably more devices
are needed for more advanced work that relies heavily on sensors, use
camera preview, and, thoughest of them all, need to maintain a
constant FPS rate to deliver a reasonable user experience.

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[android-developers] Re: New to android finally leaving Windows !!!

2010-07-07 Thread Charlie Collins
To get started you can use the SDK and the emulators it provides (you
don't need a device to dive in, though yes you will want one at some
point for further testing).

http://developer.android.com/intl/es/guide/index.html

You can also buy a developer device: 
http://android.brightstarcorp.com/index.htm.
Honestly though, the dev phone 2, while unlocked (and perfect for
ATT) is a bit pricey for the hardware you get. The N1 is a better
option IMO: http://www.google.com/phone (there is an ATT version,
while they last, but not cheap). That or if your contract is up you
can wait a bit and get a subsidized Samsung Captivate:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/06/samsung-android-phone-heads-to-att/.
Really none of the other ATT phones are very promising (Backflip,
etc, shrug).


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[android-developers] Re: New to android. Listview problem

2010-05-28 Thread ionel
Hi,

 Put the line setContentView(R.layout.main);  after line
super.onCreate(savedInstanceState);

On May 26, 6:15 am, Somebodyconfused til...@jcs.k12.oh.us wrote:
 All,
 I'm trying to get the following code to work. It should just be a
 textview with a listview underneath it. What is going wrong?

 MAIN.xml

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
 LinearLayout xmlns:android=http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/
 android
     android:orientation=vertical
     android:layout_width=fill_parent
     android:layout_height=fill_parent
     
 TextView
     android:layout_width=fill_parent
     android:layout_height=wrap_content
     android:text=@string/hello
     /
   ListView android:id=@+id/lista
         android:layout_width=wrap_content
         android:layout_height=wrap_content/
     /LinearLayout

 public class TestApp extends Activity {
     /** Called when the activity is first created. */

         @Override
     public void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState) {
         super.onCreate(savedInstanceState);
         TextView meh = new TextView(this);
         ListView ls = (ListView) findViewById(R.id.lista);
         String[] COUNTRIES = {Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria};
         meh.setText(HI THERE);
         setContentView(R.layout.main);
         ls.setAdapter(new
 ArrayAdapterString(this,android.R.layout.simple_list_item_1,
 COUNTRIES));

     }

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[android-developers] Re: New to android

2010-04-02 Thread wurp
http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html

On Mar 29, 6:53 am, iftekhar iftekhar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I am new to android/mobile application .I have exp in developing
 applications using Java/J2EE but no knowledge of mobile application/
 games etc.
 Please suggest me any link/help from where I can study and develop
 application using android.

 Thanks
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[android-developers] Re: New to android

2010-04-02 Thread dinosaur
hello ,I‘m new too.
The google's example is a good way to step into android.
and there is a book named ’ android essentials‘ can help you.



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[android-developers] Re: New to android

2010-03-30 Thread patbenatar
Yea... Check out the tutorials and API Demos under the Resources tab.
Great starting point.



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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to android

2010-03-30 Thread Prasanjit Deka
just go to *developer*.*android*.com where u can get details and basic
knowlege of android

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 Yea... Check out the tutorials and API Demos under the Resources tab.
 Great starting point.



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   applications using Java/J2EE but no knowledge of mobile application/
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[android-developers] Re: New to Android...how does android handle application versions/updates...

2010-03-02 Thread MaTT
Okay, great!

So, if I needed to make changes to the existing database, would I need
to perform any kind of backup of the old database?

Thanks for your help!

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 On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:08 AM, MaTT macte...@gmail.com wrote:
  Specifically, does an update blow away my database?

 No, all data stored locally by the app is preserved.

  Is there a way to preserve the users' settings as well?

 All settings saved in SharedPreferences are also preserved.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: New to Android...how does android handle application versions/updates...

2010-03-02 Thread Mark Murphy
MaTT wrote:
 Okay, great!
 
 So, if I needed to make changes to the existing database, would I need
 to perform any kind of backup of the old database?

If you use SQLiteOpenHelper to assist you, you will be notified when
your database schema differs from the schema your upgraded app wants to
use. Then, you will be able to use ALTER TABLE statements or temp tables
or whatever you want in order to modify your schema in-place in your
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[android-developers] Re: New to Android...how does android handle application versions/updates...

2010-03-02 Thread MaTT
Thanks Mark.  You guys have both been very helpful.

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 MaTT wrote:
  Okay, great!

  So, if I needed to make changes to the existing database, would I need
  to perform any kind of backup of the old database?

 If you use SQLiteOpenHelper to assist you, you will be notified when
 your database schema differs from the schema your upgraded app wants to
 use. Then, you will be able to use ALTER TABLE statements or temp tables
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[android-developers] Re: New in android developement

2010-01-04 Thread ROHIT


On Jan 3, 10:54 pm, Neilz neilhorn...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Dear Rohit.

 When you have found your answers, please come back here and post them
 so we can all share in your new found knowledge.

 Thanx in advance... ;-)


Q.  Handler and Looper?
Handler
The most flexible means of making an Android-friendly background
thread is to create an instance of a Handler subclass. You only need
one Handler object per activity, and you do not need to manually
register it or anything—merely creating the instance is sufficient to
register it with the Android threading subsystem.
Your background thread can communicate with the Handler, which will do
all of its work on the activity’s UI thread. This is important because
UI changes, such as updating widgets, should only occur on the
activity’s UI thread. You have two options for communicating with the
Handler:
messages and Runnable objects.

Messages
To send a Message to a Handler, first invoke obtainMessage() to get
the Message object out of the pool. There are a few flavors of
obtainMessage(), allowing you to just create empty Message objects, or
ones populated with message identifiers and arguments. The more
complicated your Handler processing needs to be, the more likely it is
you will need to put data into the Message to help the Handler
distinguish different events.

Then, you send the Message to the Handler via its message queue, using
one of the following

sendMessage...() family of methods:

• sendMessage() puts the message on the queue immediately
• sendMessageAtFrontOfQueue() puts the message on the queue
immediately, and moreover puts it at the front of the message queue
(versus the back, as is the default), so your message takes priority
over all others
• sendMessageAtTime() puts the message on the queue at the stated
time, expressed in the form of milliseconds based on system uptime
(SystemClock.uptimeMillis())
• sendMessageDelayed() puts the message on the queue after a delay,
expressed in milliseconds.

 To process these messages, your Handler needs to implement
handleMessage(), which will be called with each message that appears
on the message queue. There, the handler can update the UI as needed.
However, it should still do that work quickly, as other UI work is
suspended until the Handler is done.

Looper

Getting tasks into a separate thread, then getting results back to the
main UI thread is where the Handler, and related classes, come into
play. When a Handler is created, it is associated with a Looper. A
Looper is a class that contains a MessageQueue and processes Message
or Runnable objects that are sent via the Handler.
In the Handler usage. With this approach, the Handler is automatically
associated with the Looper of the current running thread, typically
the main UI thread. The main UI thread, which is created by the
process of the running application, is an instance of a HandlerThread,
which is basically an Android Thread specialization that provides a
Looper.



Q.. What is a ContentProvider? How to involve it from ContentResolver?
Content Providers

Any Uri in Android that begins with the content:// scheme represents a
resource served up by a content provider. Content providers offer data
encapsulation using Uri instances as handles you neither know nor care
where the data represented by the Uri comes from, so long as it is
available to you when needed. The data could be stored in a SQLite
database, or in flat files, or retrieved off a device, or be stored on
some far-off server accessed over the Internet.
A shareable data store. Content Providers are used to manage and share
application databases. Content Providers are the preferred way of
sharing data across application boundaries. This means that you can
configure your own Content Providers to permit access from other
applications and use Content Providers exposed by others to access
their stored data. Android devices include several native Content
Providers that expose useful databases like contact information.

Content Providers are a generic interface mechanism that lets you
share data between applications. By abstracting away the underlying
data source, Content Providers let you decouple your application layer
from the data layer, making your applications data-source agnostic.
Content Providers feature full permission control and are accessed
using a simple URI model. Shared content can be queried for results as
well as supporting write access. As a result, any application with the
appropriate permissions can add, remove, and update data from any
other applications — including some native Android databases.
Many of the native databases have been made available as Content
Providers, accessible by third-party applications. This means that
your applications can have access to the phone’s Contact Manager,
media player, and other native database once they’ve been granted
permission. By publishing your own data sources as Content Providers,
you make it possible for you (and other 

[android-developers] Re: New in android developement

2010-01-03 Thread Neilz
Dear Rohit.

When you have found your answers, please come back here and post them
so we can all share in your new found knowledge.

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android

2009-12-10 Thread theSmith
Joe,

The developer's site is always an excellent resource
http://developer.android.com/

Here is their notepad tutorial (in 4 parts)
http://developer.android.com/guide/tutorials/notepad/index.html

Some fantastic videos from Google IO.
Check out the Debugging and Lightning talks.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2009/sessions.html#mobile

And the newbie videos
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=opZ69P-0Jbc

-theSmith

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 Hello.

 I am new to the Android coding but not to programming as I learned on
 Pascal a LONG time ago.

 I would like to do some programming in this new language but need some
 tips and help.  Sample code and video are always good for me as I am a
 visual learner but I welcome any and all help.

 Thanks!

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[android-developers] Re: New to android and java - Cannot run or debug with eclipse 3.5.1 on windows

2009-11-23 Thread Seraieis
I'm experiencing the same problem (I just installed the SDK into
Eclipse and installed the AVD). It compiles correctly, opens the AVD,
but I can't get the text within the AVD to change. Were you successful
in fixing this?

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[android-developers] Re: New to android

2009-07-01 Thread Justin (Google Employee)

Hey ctap, since you're just getting started I'd recommend visiting the
android-beginners group which is better suited to these getting
going type questions.

Cheers,
Justin
Android Team @ Google

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 I am new to android and google groups. I dl the sdk and tried to
 install into eclipse and nothing really happens. I don't have virtual
 device and I can't even start a new android xml. I recently got
 together a forum widget for a fourm that I am part of and wish to
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[android-developers] Re: New to Android

2009-05-06 Thread BriBri

Thanks, I have the same problem and I think the JDK 5 or 6 install is
the problem too.

My problem is that I HAVE installed JDK 6 (update 13), A quick look in
the Add/Remove Programs app shows Java(TM) SE Development Kit 6 Update
13 is installed...HOWEVER when I do $ java -version, I get:

java version 1.3.1_01
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1_01)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.3.1_01, mixed mode)

What the heck? That doesn't seem match up. Are these apples and
oranges java apps? What should I see when I do $ java -version?

According to the Android Dev page on
java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError, the error is Thrown when an
attempt is made to load a class with a format version that is not
supported by the virtual machine.

Can I at least assume that format version refers to Unsupported
major.minor version 49.0 and that virtual machine refers to JDK?

Egads, this is a show-stopper!

Help!

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android

2009-05-06 Thread BriBri

While trying to create an AVD for my first Eclipse-made Android app, I
get the same java.lang.UnsupportederrorClassVersionError...49.0 error
as in the OP.

At that time, the $ java -version said I had:
java version 1.3.1_01
Java (TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1_01)
Java Hotspot (TM) Client VM (build 1.3.1_01, mixed mode)

BTW: This 1.3.1_01 doesn't match any of the Java versions that I can
see in Explorer.

Anyway, I went ahead and installed JDK 6. I verified that it installed
by finding it in (Explorer), (Add/Remove Programs), and in (IE  Tools
 Internet Options  Advanced).

I then restarted the machine for good measure.

Then did the $ java -version command again...but got the same
1.3.1_01.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Help!

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android

2009-05-06 Thread Mark Murphy

BriBri wrote:
 While trying to create an AVD for my first Eclipse-made Android app, I
 get the same java.lang.UnsupportederrorClassVersionError...49.0 error
 as in the OP.
 
 At that time, the $ java -version said I had:
 java version 1.3.1_01
 Java (TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1_01)
 Java Hotspot (TM) Client VM (build 1.3.1_01, mixed mode)
 
 BTW: This 1.3.1_01 doesn't match any of the Java versions that I can
 see in Explorer.

I do not know what you mean by that.

 Anyway, I went ahead and installed JDK 6. I verified that it installed
 by finding it in (Explorer), (Add/Remove Programs), and in (IE  Tools
 Internet Options  Advanced).

Neither of those particularly matter.

 I then restarted the machine for good measure.
 
 Then did the $ java -version command again...but got the same
 1.3.1_01.

That means you need to update your PATH, as you are still picking up
some older JDK when Windows searches for the java.exe program.

http://www.java.com/en/download/help/path.xml

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android

2009-05-06 Thread Wendal Chen

If it is not working , try to uninstall your JDK 1.3 .

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 BriBri wrote:
  While trying to create an AVD for my first Eclipse-made Android app, I
  get the same java.lang.UnsupportederrorClassVersionError...49.0 error
  as in the OP.

  At that time, the $ java -version said I had:
  java version 1.3.1_01
  Java (TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1_01)
  Java Hotspot (TM) Client VM (build 1.3.1_01, mixed mode)

  BTW: This 1.3.1_01 doesn't match any of the Java versions that I can
  see in Explorer.

 I do not know what you mean by that.

  Anyway, I went ahead and installed JDK 6. I verified that it installed
  by finding it in (Explorer), (Add/Remove Programs), and in (IE  Tools
  Internet Options  Advanced).

 Neither of those particularly matter.

  I then restarted the machine for good measure.

  Then did the $ java -version command again...but got the same
  1.3.1_01.

 That means you need to update your PATH, as you are still picking up
 some older JDK when Windows searches for the java.exe program.

 http://www.java.com/en/download/help/path.xml

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[android-developers] Re: New to Android

2009-05-06 Thread JP


Exactly; there are multiple installations of Java on a single
machine.


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 If it is not working , try to uninstall your JDK 1.3 .


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[android-developers] Re: New to Android

2009-04-30 Thread JP

It's been a while since I've seen majorminor-49er.
Here's the usual cause:
http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=736596
You see this is likely a problem with your Java installation. I
suspect you have an old Java version, probably 1.4.2. The bytecode of
the android tool has been compiled against a newer version. You need
at least JDK 5, according to the documentation here:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/1.5_r1/requirements.html
Check your Java version with the following command:
$ java -version
Update as necessary. BTW, there's an Android Beginner group...

On Apr 30, 5:32 am, sreemon sreekumar@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Friends,

 I am very new to Android.

 I am having a problem in creating avd. Please see the execption
 occured

 D:\Stabilix\Personal\Android\android-sdk-windows-1.5_r1\toolsandroid
 Exception in thread main java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/
 android/sdkmanager/Main (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
 at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
 at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
 at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(Unknown Source)

 Urgent help needed. Thanks in advance..
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[android-developers] Re: new to android

2009-01-08 Thread PRATAP SOLAPUR
Android Programmers Guide is a good book for beginner.

Anddev.org http://anddev.org u'll get tutorials


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 can any one suggest good way to practice android.
 good books or any free applications


 


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[android-developers] Re: new to android

2009-01-07 Thread Mark Murphy

google wrote:
 hi,
 can any one suggest good way to practice android.
 good books or any free applications

In terms of books, I have a running list of available books up on the
Android Programming knol:

http://knol.google.com/k/mark-murphy/android-programming

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