[android-developers] Re: No Adobe Flash support for Eclair!?!
Well well well. you all should find this interesting. Man I love CES. http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-previewed-with-flash-10-1-beta-careful-what-you-wish/ Looks like we're going to need a addon flash blocker on android soon... -theSmith On Jan 4, 11:48 am, chris harper wrote: > Thank you Dianne > > Thanks for the information on Flash. It gave me the direction I needed and > it is good to know where Flash and Android stand. In another year or two who > knows right? > > I been studying the Lunar Lander example as far as the graphics and it looks > like a good way to go and I started a new design for my application. > > Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. > > I hope you a good holiday. > > -Chris > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:42 PM, chris harper wrote: > > >> So what you are saying is that Android development doesn't really want > >> developers building applications that use Flash? > > > Only a few phones have Flash at this point so, no, I would not suggest > > using it. > > > Longer term... well, it would be problematic for this to become a standard > > part of the Android SDK. Given that flash is proprietary, that would leave > > us with the platform becoming dependent on someone else's proprietary code > > in order to support these apps. This is very counter to a basic philosophy > > of Android, that the entire platform is open-source and thus you don't need > > to someone's proprietary code to build an "android compatible" device. > > > (And to head off the inevitable cries about not really being open-source -- > > yes there are bits and pieces that are not open source, such as hardware > > drivers and applications like Market. This is a far cry from baking > > dependencies on non-open-source code into the standard APIs, though.) > > >> But it now sounds like if anyone wants to develop an Android app that uses > >> Flash it'll be more of a gamble and might not work for most devices or at > >> the least be a hassle for the end user to make it work because they would > >> have to install Flash plugins. > > > I can't tell you what devices Flash may or may not be available on, because > > it is owned by Adobe. Clearly they have a self-interest in getting it as > > widely spread as possible, but from the perspective of the platform we can't > > make any guarantees about who can include it on a device, the kinds of > > hardware it can run on, and how well it would perform. And that is one of > > the big rubs. > > >> It is kind of disappointing because if Android and Adobe can get together > >> and start supporting development of applications that use Flash then that > >> would be an Ace in the hole for making Android apps far better than the > >> IPhone. > > > The first step for having some technology adopted for the standard Android > > platform is to make it available under an open-source license that is > > compatible with the rest of the platform. Somehow, I don't see this > > happening for Flash. :} > > > -- > > Dianne Hackborn > > Android framework engineer > > hack...@android.com > > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to > > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such > > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and > > answer them. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Android Developers" group. > > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: No Adobe Flash support for Eclair!?!
The browsers on my Droid (Milestone) forwards me Adobe's site that tells me: "Adobe Flash Player 10.1 is coming to Android 2.0 and future releases in the first half of 2010." Nice and vague but there you are. On Dec 28, 6:07 pm, chris harper wrote: > I kept reading about how one of the biggest news about eclair coming > out in 2010 is that support for Flash 10 (or ANY Flash for that > matter) will be built into it. > > This does not appear to be the case for the fact that I download all > the latest source code for Eclair, built and installed Eclair onto my > development phone over the Christmas break and to my surprise/ > disappointment there is absolutely no support for Flash when I try to > view with the browser. I tried plugin's and searching for missing .apk > installs for Flash but I found nothing. > > Unless I am missing something (i.e. maybe a side tree build for > flash?) and if I did then I apologize but from what I can tell as of > now the Eclair build does and will not support flash. > > If anyone knows ANYTHING on this topic on this please update for us. > > Thank you > > -Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: No Adobe Flash support for Eclair!?!
Thank you. I also have the HTC Hero (along with my development phone) I bought it for the reason to view Flash. But I can not get my webview stub code to view flash content as specified in that article I referenced (specifically a .swf file I am trying to open on my sdcard). All I get is a page with random characters displayed. I think I might be missing a flashlite plugin or something? On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:21 PM, theSmith wrote: > As Mark said, unless you have a Hero, which has flash built it, this > will not work. > > > > On Dec 28, 1:38 pm, chris harper wrote: > > Thank you Mark for the clarification it is greatly appreciated. > > With so many different sources on the internet it is somewhat difficult > to > > know what is actually available and what isn't. > > > > One more question if you happen to know this. All I am simply trying to > do > > is create a WebView (using android.webkit.Webview) and view a .swf file > with > > it. > > > > According to this article it is had been done and is possible: > http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2009/08/12/flash-development-with-andr... > > > > But again like I stated before, after downloading the latest source code, > > building it, flashing it to my development phone and flash still not > working > > I am having my doubts (and greatly wondering how this guy said it is > > working). > > > > Do you know if this is even somewhat possible (maybe a FlashLite plugin I > am > > missing or something?). > > > > Or am just out of luck on this one. > > > > Thank you > > -Chris > > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Mark Murphy >wrote: > > > > > chris harper wrote: > > > > I kept reading about how one of the biggest news about eclair coming > > > > out in 2010 is that support for Flash 10 (or ANY Flash for that > > > > matter) will be built into it. > > > > > 1. Eclair came out in 2009. > > > > > 2. AFAIK, nowhere credible was it written that Eclair would have > support > > > for Flash 10 built into it. > > > > > > This does not appear to be the case for the fact that I download all > > > > the latest source code for Eclair, built and installed Eclair onto my > > > > development phone over the Christmas break and to my surprise/ > > > > disappointment there is absolutely no support for Flash when I try to > > > > view with the browser. I tried plugin's and searching for missing > .apk > > > > installs for Flash but I found nothing. > > > > > Flash is not open source. > > > > > Right now, the most that can reasonably be expected is for Flash to be > > > available from Adobe for Android OEMs to license and put on their > > > devices. HTC has already done this with the Hero, albeit for more of a > > > Flash Lite profile than a full Flash 10 implementation. This is not > > > significantly different than codecs for non-open-source media file > > > formats (e.g., WMA, WMV) being available for OEMs to license from > > > PacketVideo. > > > > > -- > > > Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) > > >http://commonsware.com|http://twitter.com/commonsguy > > > > > Android Consulting/App Development:http://commonsware.com/consulting > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "Android Developers" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > android-developers@googlegroups.com > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: No Adobe Flash support for Eclair!?!
As Mark said, unless you have a Hero, which has flash built it, this will not work. On Dec 28, 1:38 pm, chris harper wrote: > Thank you Mark for the clarification it is greatly appreciated. > With so many different sources on the internet it is somewhat difficult to > know what is actually available and what isn't. > > One more question if you happen to know this. All I am simply trying to do > is create a WebView (using android.webkit.Webview) and view a .swf file with > it. > > According to this article it is had been done and is > possible:http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2009/08/12/flash-development-with-andr... > > But again like I stated before, after downloading the latest source code, > building it, flashing it to my development phone and flash still not working > I am having my doubts (and greatly wondering how this guy said it is > working). > > Do you know if this is even somewhat possible (maybe a FlashLite plugin I am > missing or something?). > > Or am just out of luck on this one. > > Thank you > -Chris > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Mark Murphy wrote: > > > chris harper wrote: > > > I kept reading about how one of the biggest news about eclair coming > > > out in 2010 is that support for Flash 10 (or ANY Flash for that > > > matter) will be built into it. > > > 1. Eclair came out in 2009. > > > 2. AFAIK, nowhere credible was it written that Eclair would have support > > for Flash 10 built into it. > > > > This does not appear to be the case for the fact that I download all > > > the latest source code for Eclair, built and installed Eclair onto my > > > development phone over the Christmas break and to my surprise/ > > > disappointment there is absolutely no support for Flash when I try to > > > view with the browser. I tried plugin's and searching for missing .apk > > > installs for Flash but I found nothing. > > > Flash is not open source. > > > Right now, the most that can reasonably be expected is for Flash to be > > available from Adobe for Android OEMs to license and put on their > > devices. HTC has already done this with the Hero, albeit for more of a > > Flash Lite profile than a full Flash 10 implementation. This is not > > significantly different than codecs for non-open-source media file > > formats (e.g., WMA, WMV) being available for OEMs to license from > > PacketVideo. > > > -- > > Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) > >http://commonsware.com|http://twitter.com/commonsguy > > > Android Consulting/App Development:http://commonsware.com/consulting > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Android Developers" group. > > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
