[android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
I have to disagree. Sun's tutorials ignore far too many really basic pedagogical principles to be the best. But I still use them -- and advise others to use them, Why? Because they are the most up-to-date freely available tutorials on the web. They most likely always will be. But let's not confuse that with 'best'. That they are not. They are not even close. A tutorial that pay more attention to basic pedagogy is http://www.webbasedprogramming.com/Java-1.2-Unleashed/. Unfortunately, it is quite dated. But that is exactly why I so strongly recommend using both Sun's and another, such as this Java 1.2 Unleashed. Also good and not quite as out of date, Bruce Eckel's Thinking in Java. The 3rd edition is at http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIJ/ On Jun 27, 2:45 am, Navigateur naveen.c...@googlemail.com wrote: The best Java tutorials are the Sun The Java Tutorials on the internet. Since Android uses the Java programming language but uses a different virtual machine, you can overlook some of the JVM-related comments in the tutorials but programming is the same in every language, so what you learn in Java, you can translate over to any other language, and develop in that also. On Jun 25, 3:02 am, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: thank you for the book you recommended，i will read it seriously. 2010/6/24 MobDev developm...@mobilaria.com you can buy a book, and even though this might be wrongly interpreted as some kind of publicity I'd like to advise you to buy Mark Murphy's books. He has a beginners version and an advanced one, and in my opinion they are very very understandable (I have read some very techincal Android books as well, but those became very boring very fast)... http://commonsware.com/ On 22 jun, 11:13, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
thank you for your advice. i already have java fundamental knowledge and have one year experience. thank you all the same, best wishes. 2010/6/29 Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.com I have to disagree. Sun's tutorials ignore far too many really basic pedagogical principles to be the best. But I still use them -- and advise others to use them, Why? Because they are the most up-to-date freely available tutorials on the web. They most likely always will be. But let's not confuse that with 'best'. That they are not. They are not even close. A tutorial that pay more attention to basic pedagogy is http://www.webbasedprogramming.com/Java-1.2-Unleashed/. Unfortunately, it is quite dated. But that is exactly why I so strongly recommend using both Sun's and another, such as this Java 1.2 Unleashed. Also good and not quite as out of date, Bruce Eckel's Thinking in Java. The 3rd edition is at http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIJ/ On Jun 27, 2:45 am, Navigateur naveen.c...@googlemail.com wrote: The best Java tutorials are the Sun The Java Tutorials on the internet. Since Android uses the Java programming language but uses a different virtual machine, you can overlook some of the JVM-related comments in the tutorials but programming is the same in every language, so what you learn in Java, you can translate over to any other language, and develop in that also. On Jun 25, 3:02 am, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: thank you for the book you recommended，i will read it seriously. 2010/6/24 MobDev developm...@mobilaria.com you can buy a book, and even though this might be wrongly interpreted as some kind of publicity I'd like to advise you to buy Mark Murphy's books. He has a beginners version and an advanced one, and in my opinion they are very very understandable (I have read some very techincal Android books as well, but those became very boring very fast)... http://commonsware.com/ On 22 jun, 11:13, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
The best Java tutorials are the Sun The Java Tutorials on the internet. Since Android uses the Java programming language but uses a different virtual machine, you can overlook some of the JVM-related comments in the tutorials but programming is the same in every language, so what you learn in Java, you can translate over to any other language, and develop in that also. On Jun 25, 3:02 am, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: thank you for the book you recommended，i will read it seriously. 2010/6/24 MobDev developm...@mobilaria.com you can buy a book, and even though this might be wrongly interpreted as some kind of publicity I'd like to advise you to buy Mark Murphy's books. He has a beginners version and an advanced one, and in my opinion they are very very understandable (I have read some very techincal Android books as well, but those became very boring very fast)... http://commonsware.com/ On 22 jun, 11:13, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
you can buy a book, and even though this might be wrongly interpreted as some kind of publicity I'd like to advise you to buy Mark Murphy's books. He has a beginners version and an advanced one, and in my opinion they are very very understandable (I have read some very techincal Android books as well, but those became very boring very fast)... http://commonsware.com/ On 22 jun, 11:13, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
Thanks for the vote of confidence! On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:06 AM, MobDev developm...@mobilaria.com wrote: you can buy a book, and even though this might be wrongly interpreted as some kind of publicity I'd like to advise you to buy Mark Murphy's books. He has a beginners version and an advanced one, and in my opinion they are very very understandable (I have read some very techincal Android books as well, but those became very boring very fast)... http://commonsware.com/ On 22 jun, 11:13, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android App Developer Books: http://commonsware.com/books -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
hehe, if you earned it you earned it ;) There are other interesting books as well, but some are a little too short, a little too outdated, or less understandable... Anyways, I do advise a book because it's simple to keep on ur desk while working and look up stuff fast... Or get an Android Ipad (if it exists) full of ebook versions :P On 24 jun, 17:13, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: Thanks for the vote of confidence! On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:06 AM, MobDev developm...@mobilaria.com wrote: you can buy a book, and even though this might be wrongly interpreted as some kind of publicity I'd like to advise you to buy Mark Murphy's books. He has a beginners version and an advanced one, and in my opinion they are very very understandable (I have read some very techincal Android books as well, but those became very boring very fast)... http://commonsware.com/ On 22 jun, 11:13, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com|http://github.com/commonsguyhttp://commonsware.com/blog|http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android App Developer Books:http://commonsware.com/books -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
I'll second that. And Mark is a stand up guy he is all over these groups. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:06 AM, MobDev developm...@mobilaria.com wrote: you can buy a book, and even though this might be wrongly interpreted as some kind of publicity I'd like to advise you to buy Mark Murphy's books. He has a beginners version and an advanced one, and in my opinion they are very very understandable (I have read some very techincal Android books as well, but those became very boring very fast)... http://commonsware.com/ On 22 jun, 11:13, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Follow us on Twitter @fuliginsoftware Join the forums. http://www.fuligin.com/forums -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
I recently looked at the oreilley text and found it to be not a very good stop especially for a beginner, let alone an intermediate programer On Jun 24, 2010 9:29 AM, MobDev developm...@mobilaria.com wrote: hehe, if you earned it you earned it ;) There are other interesting books as well, but some are a little too short, a little too outdated, or less understandable... Anyways, I do advise a book because it's simple to keep on ur desk while working and look up stuff fast... Or get an Android Ipad (if it exists) full of ebook versions :P On 24 jun, 17:13, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: Thanks for the vote of confidence! On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:06 AM, MobDev developm...@mobilaria.com wrote: you can buy a book, and even though this might be wrongly interpreted as some kind of publicity I'd like to advise you to buy Mark Murphy's books. He has a beginners version and an advanced one, and in my opinion they are very very understandable (I have read some very techincal Android books as well, but those became very boring very fast)... http://commonsware.com/ On 22 jun, 11:13, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com| http://github.com/commonsguyhttp://commonsware.com/blog|http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android App Developer Books:http://commonsware.com/books -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
I am a beginner with Android myself but I will have to say there is no shortcut here. I am assuming you have some basic understanding of Java, if not I would start there. Look in your local library and half price book stores and you should be able to find a good java desk reference or two. Personally I have been going through every tutorial and example I can get my hands on, just to understand how everything fits together. How fast you learn is entirely up to you, there are no shortcuts here. You have to put in the work to get the results. Hope this helps. If you need book recommendations I have a few ebooks. On Jun 22, 5:13 am, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
I'd appreciate any help as well. Balancing work and learning Java and Android programming has been difficult. On Jun 24, 8:37 am, B Woods bradleydeanwo...@gmail.com wrote: I am a beginner with Android myself but I will have to say there is no shortcut here. I am assuming you have some basic understanding of Java, if not I would start there. Look in your local library and half price book stores and you should be able to find a good java desk reference or two. Personally I have been going through every tutorial and example I can get my hands on, just to understand how everything fits together. How fast you learn is entirely up to you, there are no shortcuts here. You have to put in the work to get the results. Hope this helps. If you need book recommendations I have a few ebooks. On Jun 22, 5:13 am, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
Hello Bradley, you mentioned on this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/f0ca57c660994721?utoken=R5o5QDUAAACwwFf96muIoaCUrXmA7_-MXwTHIXZijSTv9Jsf_UtWzOF9x9NUciIyuzsXz3IIcOfhSEPN5ujygOhZxlz8A_Nh That you had ebooks to learn how to program, would you mind sharing those please or pointing me in the right direction? Don't mean to intrude, you simply sounded helpful so I reached out. Much obliged sir. Carlos. On Jun 24, 8:37 am, B Woods bradleydeanwo...@gmail.com wrote: I am a beginner with Android myself but I will have to say there is no shortcut here. I am assuming you have some basic understanding of Java, if not I would start there. Look in your local library and half price book stores and you should be able to find a good java desk reference or two. Personally I have been going through every tutorial and example I can get my hands on, just to understand how everything fits together. How fast you learn is entirely up to you, there are no shortcuts here. You have to put in the work to get the results. Hope this helps. If you need book recommendations I have a few ebooks. On Jun 22, 5:13 am, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
I really appreciate your reply, there is no shortcut here. I have to be patient, and find a book. quote:Personally I have been going through every tutorial and example I can get my hands on would you like to recommend some materials like that? Anyway thank you very much. 2010/6/24 B Woods bradleydeanwo...@gmail.com I am a beginner with Android myself but I will have to say there is no shortcut here. I am assuming you have some basic understanding of Java, if not I would start there. Look in your local library and half price book stores and you should be able to find a good java desk reference or two. Personally I have been going through every tutorial and example I can get my hands on, just to understand how everything fits together. How fast you learn is entirely up to you, there are no shortcuts here. You have to put in the work to get the results. Hope this helps. If you need book recommendations I have a few ebooks. On Jun 22, 5:13 am, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: got a problem to learn Android
thank you for the book you recommended，i will read it seriously. 2010/6/24 MobDev developm...@mobilaria.com you can buy a book, and even though this might be wrongly interpreted as some kind of publicity I'd like to advise you to buy Mark Murphy's books. He has a beginners version and an advanced one, and in my opinion they are very very understandable (I have read some very techincal Android books as well, but those became very boring very fast)... http://commonsware.com/ On 22 jun, 11:13, ben linus benzhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi , Does anyone can tell me how to master android fast, i am a beginner. The official doc is so tedious, i have no clue to learn it. expect your reply and thanks for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comandroid-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
