[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
Well how could one not agree to an obviously good thing. If there was a thing like almost a tautology, this would count... Assuming the article at engaget is correct and things don't change, I am going by T-Mobile's CIO. So, unless you live in Cuba or another place that US businesses are prohibited to do business with, you should be able to buy and import the equipment. On Oct 4, 5:21 am, arnouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm doind a survey about who agree to get an android device everywhere on the world and not only in US. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
Hi all, I'm doind a survey about who agree to get an android device everywhere on the world and not only in US. Please, give your feedback http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pBxgcXvOI-GXYJ4UoYyEpAA Regards On Oct 3, 5:19 pm, plusminus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nooo not only to ADC winners ! But I think this already happened in a way (Seen some of the apps in the appstore and running on the devices in videos) Regards, plusminus #http://anddev.org-- Worlds largest Android Developer Community On Oct 1, 3:01 pm, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like they can't even send a device to the winners of the ADC1. And i don't see google becoming a phone retailer ... At this point i wouldn't expect much from google and try to find one in uk or Ebay. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
I remind you that Google is not a hardware manufacturer. Whether a handset manufacturer releases an Android phone is entirely their choice. Europeans can't get an Android phone because NO ONE IS MAKING ONE YET. Even if you could get your hands on one, it would be a proprietary T-Mobile locked version. That is not much use to you. Maybe you think HTC will just give Google some unlocked, unbranded phones. Well, good luck with that! HTC wouldn't even SELL one if you waved a $500 check in their face. Yes, it's stupid. But some businesses have direct sales phobia. You can't cite these companies for forgetting Europe, as if they are purposefully shunning the European market. The isolation of U.S. and European markets is perfectly expected because many companies feel they are different enough to be treated separately. Whether any of us agree with that idea is sadly irrelevant. Remember, even if you haven't heard of a European release yet, doesn't mean there aren't companies working on one. Everyone is excited about Android. Just be patient! Many complex factors are at play here. Maybe someday, components will be cheap enough to be able to build a custom phone like we build our own custom computer. Maybe one day we will be able to change mobile providers at will, based on who has the best price (like a REAL market). It's clear Google has a long-term goal of simple, open, mobile computing, where users can customize their phones and get a good rate from whomever they want. However, there are VERY STRONG forces against such an idea in the mobile industry. In the U.S. at least, phone companies are control freaks. It's our job as consumers and developers to change that over time for everyone's benefit. Whining about not being able to get a phone will not help. I have done my part to support the Android platform as a T-Mobile customer: I pre-ordered two phones, one for my fiancee and one for myself. No need to thank me. ;) David P.S. Sheesh -- I mean, in Europe ... at least you guys have decent public transportation! :-D On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:58 AM, arnouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes...but the engadget's article have to be true... A thing is true: it should be more expensive to buy it in US if I have to buy a subscription to T-Mobile! Wait and see.. On 4 oct, 16:32, JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well how could one not agree to an obviously good thing. If there was a thing like almost a tautology, this would count... Assuming the article at engaget is correct and things don't change, I am going by T-Mobile's CIO. So, unless you live in Cuba or another place that US businesses are prohibited to do business with, you should be able to buy and import the equipment. On Oct 4, 5:21 am, arnouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm doind a survey about who agree to get an android device everywhere on the world and not only in US. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
On Oct 4, 2:11 pm, David Farler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remind you that Google is not a hardware manufacturer. I suppose we know that. The point we're making is this: If Google/T- Mobile and others want to leverage the app development potential of a platform, then they need to recognize the need for an environment that is conducive to the development of such apps. The field is pretty well laid out, I guess, and we know that there is a need for grown up stakeholder (developer) management, and a grown up supply of test equipment. A model similar to iPhone isn't going to cut it due to the variety of handsets and providers that we can expect. So far, we have an outstanding SDK (for what I am doing, anyway), Google has handed out some serious Dollars in the ADC-I, but the rest has a mixed track record with a lot of we-shall-see in it. Not terribly professional from what I can see, but anyway, I suppose we've beaten that one to death during the dark period over the summer. Steve has some good points. As a consumer product, the 3G capabilities need to be broadened similar to tri-/quad GSM. As far as a test platform is concerned, you Euros might be able to make do without it, although this would not be an ideal situation. The bar is so much higher in Europe and parts of Asia, so it'll be interesting to see if they (we!) will be able to make the cut. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
Nooo not only to ADC winners ! But I think this already happened in a way (Seen some of the apps in the appstore and running on the devices in videos) Regards, plusminus # http://anddev.org -- Worlds largest Android Developer Community On Oct 1, 3:01 pm, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like they can't even send a device to the winners of the ADC1. And i don't see google becoming a phone retailer ... At this point i wouldn't expect much from google and try to find one in uk or Ebay. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
Looks like they can't even send a device to the winners of the ADC1. And i don't see google becoming a phone retailer ... At this point i wouldn't expect much from google and try to find one in uk or Ebay. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
Supposedly early releases of the G1 for news and blogs to review will occur around October 1st. , Michael Martin http://www.googleandblog.com/ _ From: Muthu Ramadoss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:03 PM To: android-discuss@googlegroups.com Subject: [android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal? Hmm.. may be no one has the device yet? On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Shane Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get together of list of people who are going to have the device so we can help each other test. Got zero response on the dev list. Shane On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested too. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if this has been posted or asked before - Like many, I suppose I'll need a device to test my Android app's before releasing it to the wild (;-). Anyone know if the HTC Dream will be available from HTC outside the T- Mobile deal, with an open SIM slot, sans SIM lock, Android flashed or flashable? -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
So the devices must be out to you folks by now then ;) On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Michael Martin - MM Agency [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Supposedly early releases of the G1 for news and blogs to review will occur around October 1st. , Michael Martin http://www.googleandblog.com/ -- *From:* Muthu Ramadoss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:03 PM *To:* android-discuss@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal? Hmm.. may be no one has the device yet? On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Shane Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get together of list of people who are going to have the device so we can help each other test. Got zero response on the dev list. Shane On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested too. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if this has been posted or asked before - Like many, I suppose I'll need a device to test my Android app's before releasing it to the wild (;-). Anyone know if the HTC Dream will be available from HTC outside the T- Mobile deal, with an open SIM slot, sans SIM lock, Android flashed or flashable? -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
I did some more research and found this: http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/23/t-mobiles-cto-on-g1-unlocking-and-tethering-plus-a-few-detai/ On Sep 25, 8:49 pm, JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if this has been posted or asked before - Like many, I suppose I'll need a device to test my Android app's before releasing it to the wild (;-). Anyone know if the HTC Dream will be available from HTC outside the T- Mobile deal, with an open SIM slot, sans SIM lock, Android flashed or flashable? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
I'm interested too. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if this has been posted or asked before - Like many, I suppose I'll need a device to test my Android app's before releasing it to the wild (;-). Anyone know if the HTC Dream will be available from HTC outside the T- Mobile deal, with an open SIM slot, sans SIM lock, Android flashed or flashable? -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
I'm trying to get together of list of people who are going to have the device so we can help each other test. Got zero response on the dev list. Shane On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm interested too. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:19 AM, JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if this has been posted or asked before - Like many, I suppose I'll need a device to test my Android app's before releasing it to the wild (;-). Anyone know if the HTC Dream will be available from HTC outside the T- Mobile deal, with an open SIM slot, sans SIM lock, Android flashed or flashable? -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:06 PM, JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 25, 8:57 pm, Shane Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get together of list of people who are going to have the device so we can help each other test. Great idea, let's keep this in the back of our heads and see what comes down the pike. Yeah, George took the idea one step further (an annoying habit of his) and said we should strap a webcam to our head and let the developer see and direct the testing for themselves, him taking the idea of droid a little too seriously, of course. I remember one tester lost his job when (unnamed carrier) bought a giant, automated robot to push the buttons and record events, sad to lose a job to robot. Shane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hmm.. may be no one has the device yet? No doubt, but people have pre-ordered or are otherwise planning on getting one. If I can verify that I will be able to install applications from SAM, I'll be first in line to get one. Shane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
Hi Muthu, Absolutely interested. George is making the calls now to setup billing, so it would definitely be worth looking into. What's the company? Thanks, Shane On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hope this new robot actually helps developers to find great jobs. Shane, A group of former paypal employees are starting an android payment module to help android applications with their payment solutions. I chat with one of their folks over skype. I did mention about you and slideme and he was very eager to learn about slideme. Not sure if you know about this former paypal employee founded startup, so though will mention it here. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Shane Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:06 PM, JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 25, 8:57 pm, Shane Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get together of list of people who are going to have the device so we can help each other test. Great idea, let's keep this in the back of our heads and see what comes down the pike. Yeah, George took the idea one step further (an annoying habit of his) and said we should strap a webcam to our head and let the developer see and direct the testing for themselves, him taking the idea of droid a little too seriously, of course. I remember one tester lost his job when (unnamed carrier) bought a giant, automated robot to push the buttons and record events, sad to lose a job to robot. Shane -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
Shane, Forwarded the contact info to you. Hope you find it useful. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Shane Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Muthu, Absolutely interested. George is making the calls now to setup billing, so it would definitely be worth looking into. What's the company? Thanks, Shane On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hope this new robot actually helps developers to find great jobs. Shane, A group of former paypal employees are starting an android payment module to help android applications with their payment solutions. I chat with one of their folks over skype. I did mention about you and slideme and he was very eager to learn about slideme. Not sure if you know about this former paypal employee founded startup, so though will mention it here. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Shane Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:06 PM, JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 25, 8:57 pm, Shane Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get together of list of people who are going to have the device so we can help each other test. Great idea, let's keep this in the back of our heads and see what comes down the pike. Yeah, George took the idea one step further (an annoying habit of his) and said we should strap a webcam to our head and let the developer see and direct the testing for themselves, him taking the idea of droid a little too seriously, of course. I remember one tester lost his job when (unnamed carrier) bought a giant, automated robot to push the buttons and record events, sad to lose a job to robot. Shane -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-discuss] Re: HTC Dream + Android, sans T-Mobile deal?
Got it. Thanks! On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Shane, Forwarded the contact info to you. Hope you find it useful. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Shane Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Muthu, Absolutely interested. George is making the calls now to setup billing, so it would definitely be worth looking into. What's the company? Thanks, Shane On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Muthu Ramadoss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope this new robot actually helps developers to find great jobs. Shane, A group of former paypal employees are starting an android payment module to help android applications with their payment solutions. I chat with one of their folks over skype. I did mention about you and slideme and he was very eager to learn about slideme. Not sure if you know about this former paypal employee founded startup, so though will mention it here. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Shane Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:06 PM, JP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 25, 8:57 pm, Shane Isbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get together of list of people who are going to have the device so we can help each other test. Great idea, let's keep this in the back of our heads and see what comes down the pike. Yeah, George took the idea one step further (an annoying habit of his) and said we should strap a webcam to our head and let the developer see and direct the testing for themselves, him taking the idea of droid a little too seriously, of course. I remember one tester lost his job when (unnamed carrier) bought a giant, automated robot to push the buttons and record events, sad to lose a job to robot. Shane -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://mobeegal.in - mobile search. redefined. +91 98403 48914 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Discuss group. To post to this group, send email to android-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
