Re: [Angstrom-distro-users] Debian packaging system
Hi, thanks for answering. Yes, we are aware that we can install debian packages with opkg directly. This is not a problem, but we have an application which is calling dpkg -l command in order to get the list of all installed packages. This list is expected to be in a format debian packaging system is using it, thus working with opkg doesn't give real results, if you know what I mean. Currently we are providing scripts to overcome this problem, but application could use dpkg for other functions also (i.e. upgrade, etc.) and this could be a problem for us. This is why we want to have original debian packaging system, without changing distribution. If this is not possible with Angstrom, than we have to stick with wrapping opkg. BR, Jernej On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Vitus Jensen vjen...@gmx.de wrote: On Wed, 5 Jun 2013, Jernej Turnsek wrote: thank you very much for your fast reply. We are heavily relying on Openembedded environment for building Angstrom distribution and I am not shure how to switch to debian in this development phase, but I will look into. Is there any other way to hold on Angstrom and enable debian packaging system? Any experience? Hi Jernej, we are using openembedded (classic) to build images for our tqm5200s-based hardware and selected the angstrom distribution, too. However a considerable amount of applications are added to the machine after the image has been installed for customizing and those we build via cmake as .deb archives and install via opkg. So it all depends on how you define debian packaging system. No problem to install debian packages, it should IMHO also be feasable to write a dpkg-wrapper for opkg. Do you really need more? The exact files dpkg tends to use? Bye, Vitus -- Vitus Jensen, Hannover, Germany, Universe (current) pgp public key available from keyservers __**_ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@**linuxtogo.orgAngstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/**cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** angstrom-distro-usershttp://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users
Re: [Angstrom-distro-users] Debian packaging system
Sounds like the wrapper script is the only reasonable option, unless you want to carefully convert opkg's pacakge manifest to dpkg's manifest. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Jernej Turnsek jernej.turn...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, thanks for answering. Yes, we are aware that we can install debian packages with opkg directly. This is not a problem, but we have an application which is calling dpkg -l command in order to get the list of all installed packages. This list is expected to be in a format debian packaging system is using it, thus working with opkg doesn't give real results, if you know what I mean. Currently we are providing scripts to overcome this problem, but application could use dpkg for other functions also (i.e. upgrade, etc.) and this could be a problem for us. This is why we want to have original debian packaging system, without changing distribution. If this is not possible with Angstrom, than we have to stick with wrapping opkg. BR, Jernej On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Vitus Jensen vjen...@gmx.de wrote: On Wed, 5 Jun 2013, Jernej Turnsek wrote: thank you very much for your fast reply. We are heavily relying on Openembedded environment for building Angstrom distribution and I am not shure how to switch to debian in this development phase, but I will look into. Is there any other way to hold on Angstrom and enable debian packaging system? Any experience? Hi Jernej, we are using openembedded (classic) to build images for our tqm5200s-based hardware and selected the angstrom distribution, too. However a considerable amount of applications are added to the machine after the image has been installed for customizing and those we build via cmake as .deb archives and install via opkg. So it all depends on how you define debian packaging system. No problem to install debian packages, it should IMHO also be feasable to write a dpkg-wrapper for opkg. Do you really need more? The exact files dpkg tends to use? Bye, Vitus -- Vitus Jensen, Hannover, Germany, Universe (current) pgp public key available from keyservers __**_ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@**linuxtogo.org Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/**cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** angstrom-distro-users http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users -- my .sigfile is on vacation. I filter everything with an application/ms-* mimetype. I write code: https://github.com/indrora/ https://bitbucket.org/indrora/ ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users
Re: [Angstrom-distro-users] Debian packaging system
Yes, I completely agree with you. We will try the upgrade procedure and see how to convert app dpkg commands into opkg commands. Thank you very much. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Morgan Gangwere indr...@earfolds.comwrote: Sounds like the wrapper script is the only reasonable option, unless you want to carefully convert opkg's pacakge manifest to dpkg's manifest. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Jernej Turnsek jernej.turn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, thanks for answering. Yes, we are aware that we can install debian packages with opkg directly. This is not a problem, but we have an application which is calling dpkg -l command in order to get the list of all installed packages. This list is expected to be in a format debian packaging system is using it, thus working with opkg doesn't give real results, if you know what I mean. Currently we are providing scripts to overcome this problem, but application could use dpkg for other functions also (i.e. upgrade, etc.) and this could be a problem for us. This is why we want to have original debian packaging system, without changing distribution. If this is not possible with Angstrom, than we have to stick with wrapping opkg. BR, Jernej On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Vitus Jensen vjen...@gmx.de wrote: On Wed, 5 Jun 2013, Jernej Turnsek wrote: thank you very much for your fast reply. We are heavily relying on Openembedded environment for building Angstrom distribution and I am not shure how to switch to debian in this development phase, but I will look into. Is there any other way to hold on Angstrom and enable debian packaging system? Any experience? Hi Jernej, we are using openembedded (classic) to build images for our tqm5200s-based hardware and selected the angstrom distribution, too. However a considerable amount of applications are added to the machine after the image has been installed for customizing and those we build via cmake as .deb archives and install via opkg. So it all depends on how you define debian packaging system. No problem to install debian packages, it should IMHO also be feasable to write a dpkg-wrapper for opkg. Do you really need more? The exact files dpkg tends to use? Bye, Vitus -- Vitus Jensen, Hannover, Germany, Universe (current) pgp public key available from keyservers __**_ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@**linuxtogo.org Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/**cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** angstrom-distro-users http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users -- my .sigfile is on vacation. I filter everything with an application/ms-* mimetype. I write code: https://github.com/indrora/ https://bitbucket.org/indrora/ ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users
Re: [Angstrom-distro-users] Support for Sharp SL-C3100 (spitz)
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Yan Seiner y...@seiner.com wrote: Hi Eric: My needs are (fairly) simple I am trying to get an image with a browser that runs javascript, supports sound output, and has minicom, picocom, or some similar serial communications app. the 2007.12 image which boots fine does not have a browser nor minicom. The later images that hang on the pxa... line do - but they don't boot. I also found zubuntu, which is based on hardy heron, and boots fine, runs firefox, but does not have minicom available and the repositories no longer exist. :( http://www.omegamoon.com/blog/static.php?page=ZaurusUbuntu I don't mind building my own images; I do a lot of work with OpenWRT so I am used to building embedded stuff, as long as it is somewhat user friendly :) So yes, I'd be willing to build it if I can get a recipe. The pxa2xx-udc pxa2xx-udc: UDC connecting message is apparently due to a race condition in the boot scripts somewhere. I have not tried to track that down. --Yan Eric Edwin wrote: Hi Yan, I have a Zaurus Spitz (SL-C3000) Terrier (SL-C3200). The most recent Angstrom image I managed to get to boot OK was from; http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/releases/2007.12/images/ The last narcissus image I built in February 2012 failed to proceed past the message; 'pxa2xx-udc pxa2xx-udc: UDC connecting' I have managed to build a working Open Embedded Core image with 3.2.18 kernel (core-image-minimal core-image-sato). You also have the option of; Zgrom For the past ~3months the OpenEmbedded built image (~3.2.32 kernel) has errors therefore please take this into account if you decide to build your own image. If you require any more info please contact me. Best regards, Eric Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 10:25:20 -0700 From: y...@seiner.com To: angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org Subject: [Angstrom-distro-users] Support for Sharp SL-C3100 (spitz) I have tried building 2011.03 on narcissus for a Sharp SL-C3100. I badly need WPA-PSK support, and I need a newer kernel than the 2007.11 release offers. I can't get the image to boot. It hangs at Can't open /dev/misc/rtc: no such file or directory. It never starts the GUI. Does anyone have a newer image with a newer kernel that supports WPA-PSK? Thanks. -- Project Management Consulting and Training http://www.ridgelineconsultingllc.com ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users !DSPAM:51b10295236781804284693! -- Project Management Consulting and Training http://www.ridgelineconsultingllc.com ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users Hi, unfortunately the images built by the old Narcissus have issues with udev and don't have any maintainance. However there is today a new Narcissus based on oe-core: it just needs to be expanded with configuration for Zaurus. I plan to send the setup as soon as possible, atm I'm still working about reducing 3.8 kernel size. Cheers Andrea ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users
Re: [Angstrom-distro-users] Support for Sharp SL-C3100 (spitz)
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Eric Edwin eric_ed...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Yan, I have a Zaurus Spitz (SL-C3000) Terrier (SL-C3200). The most recent Angstrom image I managed to get to boot OK was from; http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/releases/2007.12/images/ The last narcissus image I built in February 2012 failed to proceed past the message; 'pxa2xx-udc pxa2xx-udc: UDC connecting' I have managed to build a working Open Embedded Core image with 3.2.18 kernel (core-image-minimal core-image-sato). You also have the option of; Zgrom For the past ~3months the OpenEmbedded built image (~3.2.32 kernel) has errors therefore please take this into account if you decide to build your own image. If you require any more info please contact me. Best regards, Eric No idea about those errors... Are you referring to Angstrom images or images built with the simpler [oe-core + meta-initramfs + meta-handheld] setup? Cheers Andrea Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 10:25:20 -0700 From: y...@seiner.com To: angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org Subject: [Angstrom-distro-users] Support for Sharp SL-C3100 (spitz) I have tried building 2011.03 on narcissus for a Sharp SL-C3100. I badly need WPA-PSK support, and I need a newer kernel than the 2007.11 release offers. I can't get the image to boot. It hangs at Can't open /dev/misc/rtc: no such file or directory. It never starts the GUI. Does anyone have a newer image with a newer kernel that supports WPA-PSK? Thanks. -- Project Management Consulting and Training http://www.ridgelineconsultingllc.com ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users
Re: [Angstrom-distro-users] Support for Sharp SL-C3100 (spitz)
Andrea Adami wrote: unfortunately the images built by the old Narcissus have issues with udev and don't have any maintainance. However there is today a new Narcissus based on oe-core: it just needs to be expanded with configuration for Zaurus. I plan to send the setup as soon as possible, atm I'm still working about reducing 3.8 kernel size. Cheers Andrea Andrea: That sounds great. Is there access to the new Narcissus yet? Do you have a timeline for when it might be up with the Zaurus images? Thanks! --Yan -- Project Management Consulting and Training http://www.ridgelineconsultingllc.com ___ Angstrom-distro-users mailing list Angstrom-distro-users@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-users
