Re: [POLL] property immutability hacks
At 05:50 30/11/2001 -0500, Erik Hatcher wrote: Ant users are very fortunate to have a crew of committers that put their foot down and prevent many seemingly useful features from making it into Ant's core - and Ant is sufficiently extensible such that folks that wish to break the rules can do so at their own risk. I'd just like to put my 2c in and agree wholeheartedly with this. Thanks to all the committers and to the way they are preserving the vision for what Ant could/should/will be. Cheers, Bevan. -- Programming is an Art Form that Fights Back Bevan Arps (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior OO Analyst, ACT Financial Systems This communication is confidential to ACT Financial Systems (Asia Pacific) and is intended for use only by the addressee. The views and opinions expressed in this email are the senders own and do not represent the views and opinions of ACT Financial Systems (Asia Pacific).
RE: [POLL] property immutability hacks
Hi, Please pardon my ignorance, but I wonder if you can clarify for me a bit what you mean by this: Are you relying on available's back door to changing property values? Are you simply asking if people are using available at all? If so, my answer is yes, most definitely. I have a series of checks based on available that set up portions of the build to fail if resources are not available. Cheers, Matt -Original Message- From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [POLL] property immutability hacks Quick question: Are you relying on available's back door to changing property values? [ ] Yes No need to reply if the answer is No - I'm just looking for folks that are. If yes, could you please elaborate on how/why you are doing so? And if you don't know what this question refers to, nevermind :) - its a feature that might possibly be removed for the sake of beefing up Ant's property handling architecture and I'd like to get a feel for how widespread this unorthodox usage is. Thanks, Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [POLL] property immutability hacks
Boy have you let the cat out of the bag now! I never thought about using the available task this way, the ideas that gives me... And now you want to remove it?! ;) --- Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question: Are you relying on available's back door to changing property values? [ ] Yes No need to reply if the answer is No - I'm just looking for folks that are. If yes, could you please elaborate on how/why you are doing so? And if you don't know what this question refers to, nevermind :) - its a feature that might possibly be removed for the sake of beefing up Ant's property handling architecture and I'd like to get a feel for how widespread this unorthodox usage is. Thanks, Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = Don Taylor, Developer ACTS, Inc. http://www.actsi.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [POLL] property immutability hacks
Doh, Sorry I was such a dummy, I thought about this a little more and figured out what you were asking. I change my answer to no. ; ) Cheers, Matt -Original Message- From: Matt Lyon Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 9:49 AM To: Ant Users List Subject: RE: [POLL] property immutability hacks Hi, Please pardon my ignorance, but I wonder if you can clarify for me a bit what you mean by this: Are you relying on available's back door to changing property values? Are you simply asking if people are using available at all? If so, my answer is yes, most definitely. I have a series of checks based on available that set up portions of the build to fail if resources are not available. Cheers, Matt -Original Message- From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [POLL] property immutability hacks Quick question: Are you relying on available's back door to changing property values? [ ] Yes No need to reply if the answer is No - I'm just looking for folks that are. If yes, could you please elaborate on how/why you are doing so? And if you don't know what this question refers to, nevermind :) - its a feature that might possibly be removed for the sake of beefing up Ant's property handling architecture and I'd like to get a feel for how widespread this unorthodox usage is. Thanks, Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [POLL] property immutability hacks
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 09:47:24AM -0500, Erik Hatcher wrote: Quick question: Are you relying on available's back door to changing property values? There's a backdoor? Cool!! How do I use it? ;) But seriously, I've never seen a project with greater disparity between what users want (perl), and what the developers want (prolog). --Jeff -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [POLL] property immutability hacks
It's called OpenSource ! - Original Message - From: Jeff Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ant Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [POLL] property immutability hacks But seriously, I've never seen a project with greater disparity between what users want (perl), and what the developers want (prolog). --Jeff -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]