Re: [POLL] property immutability hacks

2001-12-02 Thread Bevan Arps

At 05:50 30/11/2001 -0500, Erik Hatcher wrote:

Ant users are very fortunate to have a crew of committers that put their
foot down and prevent many seemingly useful features from making it into
Ant's core - and Ant is sufficiently extensible such that folks that wish to
break the rules can do so at their own risk.

I'd just like to put my 2c in and agree wholeheartedly with this.

Thanks to all the committers and to the way they are preserving the 
vision for what Ant could/should/will be.

Cheers,
Bevan.


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RE: [POLL] property immutability hacks

2001-11-29 Thread Matt Lyon

Hi,

Please pardon my ignorance, but I wonder if you can clarify for me a bit
what you mean by this:

 Are  you relying on available's back door to changing
property values? 

Are you simply asking if people are using available at all? If so, my
answer is yes, most definitely. I have a series of checks based on
available that set up portions of the build to fail if resources are
not available. 

Cheers,

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 9:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [POLL] property immutability hacks


Quick question: Are  you relying on available's back door to changing
property values?

[ ] Yes

No need to reply if the answer is No - I'm just looking for folks that
are.

If yes, could you please elaborate on how/why you are doing so?

And if you don't know what this question refers to, nevermind :) - its a
feature that might possibly be removed for the sake of beefing up
Ant's
property handling architecture and I'd like to get a feel for how
widespread
this unorthodox usage is.

Thanks,
Erik


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Re: [POLL] property immutability hacks

2001-11-29 Thread Don Taylor

Boy have you let the cat out of the bag now! I never thought about
using the available task this way, the ideas that gives me...

And now you want to remove it?! ;)

--- Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quick question: Are  you relying on available's back door to
 changing
 property values?
 
 [ ] Yes
 
 No need to reply if the answer is No - I'm just looking for folks
 that
 are.
 
 If yes, could you please elaborate on how/why you are doing so?
 
 And if you don't know what this question refers to, nevermind :) -
 its a
 feature that might possibly be removed for the sake of beefing up
 Ant's
 property handling architecture and I'd like to get a feel for how
 widespread
 this unorthodox usage is.
 
 Thanks,
 Erik
 
 
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RE: [POLL] property immutability hacks

2001-11-29 Thread Matt Lyon

Doh,

Sorry I was such a dummy, I thought about this a little more and figured
out what you were asking. I change my answer to no. 

; )

Cheers,

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Matt Lyon 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 9:49 AM
To: Ant Users List
Subject: RE: [POLL] property immutability hacks


Hi,

Please pardon my ignorance, but I wonder if you can clarify for me a bit
what you mean by this:

 Are  you relying on available's back door to changing
property values? 

Are you simply asking if people are using available at all? If so, my
answer is yes, most definitely. I have a series of checks based on
available that set up portions of the build to fail if resources are
not available. 

Cheers,

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 9:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [POLL] property immutability hacks


Quick question: Are  you relying on available's back door to changing
property values?

[ ] Yes

No need to reply if the answer is No - I'm just looking for folks that
are.

If yes, could you please elaborate on how/why you are doing so?

And if you don't know what this question refers to, nevermind :) - its a
feature that might possibly be removed for the sake of beefing up
Ant's
property handling architecture and I'd like to get a feel for how
widespread
this unorthodox usage is.

Thanks,
Erik


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Re: [POLL] property immutability hacks

2001-11-29 Thread Jeff Turner

On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 09:47:24AM -0500, Erik Hatcher wrote:
 Quick question: Are  you relying on available's back door to changing
 property values?

There's a backdoor? Cool!! How do I use it?

;) 

But seriously, I've never seen a project with greater disparity between
what users want (perl), and what the developers want (prolog).

--Jeff

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Re: [POLL] property immutability hacks

2001-11-29 Thread T Master

It's called OpenSource !

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: [POLL] property immutability hacks
 But seriously, I've never seen a project with greater disparity between
 what users want (perl), and what the developers want (prolog).
 
 --Jeff



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