Re: [AOLSERVER] wiki very slow

2008-03-20 Thread Rick Cobb
Is the panoptic one still the one to edit?

Thanks --
- ReC

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Subject: Re: [AOLSERVER] wiki very slow

The old location of the wiki is still available, though:

http://panoptic.com/wiki/aolserver

Use that, if the dev.aolserver.com one is running slowly -- I'll look
into the matter.

-- Dossy


On 2008.03.17, Shedis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Similar experiences here from Istanbul Turkey. Browsing wiki has
become 
 very time consuming.

 On Mar 17, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 08:09:12AM +, John Buckman wrote:
 Just an FYI that the Aolserver wiki link from www.aolserver.com:

 http://dev.aolserver.com/Tcl_API

 takes over 20 seconds to load a page, and has been like this for a  
 few
 weeks.  It's not really useable at this speed.  It was fine at the
 previous host.


 I can confirm that from here...

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Re: [AOLSERVER] wiki very slow

2008-03-20 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 2008.03.20, Rick Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is the panoptic one still the one to edit?

Yes--the dev.aolserver.com one is still read-only and won't accept
edits now, anyway.

A question was raised to me about moving it all into an OpenACS XoWiki.
What does everyone think?  I'd be happy to hand over the
content--and responsibility--if someone from the community is
volunteering to do the work involved.

-- Dossy

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Re: [AOLSERVER] wiki very slow

2008-03-20 Thread Tom Jackson
I thought the point of moving (AOLserver documentation) to a wiki was so that 
we could edit the manpages, which can then be turned into html pages, 
essentially to divide up the work, and make it easy for more people to help.

Nobody ever did much to actually do the editing, or moving the edits back into 
AOLserver CVS, so it is essentially a failed experiment. 

Moving the documentation part into another wiki will probably have the same 
outcome, and it places a large burdon and responsibility on one or two 
community members. 

What I have noticed is that the manpages are difficult (tedious) to write, and 
the html looks somewhat weird, but it at least matches up with Tcl and the 
existing AOLserver docs. 

Here is an example manpage:

http://junom.com/document/tWSDL/mann/wsnamespace.n

and the associated html page (generated from a makefile):

http://junom.com/document/tWSDL/wsnamespace.n.htm

Considering how little time is ever devoted to actually writing documentation, 
it seems like it would be more beneficial to use less technology, and rely on 
existing tools to reformat as needed. 

I have various sets of old documentation, which serve most of my needs, but 
are obviously very out of date. But they also contain the organizational 
structure of good documentation, which we inherited from the 2.* versions and 
essentially abandoned in 4.0 or earlier. 

tom jackson




On Thursday 20 March 2008 13:50, Dossy Shiobara wrote:
 On 2008.03.20, Rick Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is the panoptic one still the one to edit?

 Yes--the dev.aolserver.com one is still read-only and won't accept
 edits now, anyway.

 A question was raised to me about moving it all into an OpenACS XoWiki.
 What does everyone think?  I'd be happy to hand over the
 content--and responsibility--if someone from the community is
 volunteering to do the work involved.

 -- Dossy


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Re: [AOLSERVER] wiki very slow

2008-03-20 Thread Shedis

A debug well done Dossy.
Load times are much better and i can continue to use the wiki.


On Mar 18, 2008, at 1:18 AM, Dossy Shiobara wrote:

So, the http://dev.aolserver.com/wiki/ should be a little faster now  
--
pages still seem to take ~7 seconds to load, but that's better than  
the

24-28 seconds it used to take.




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Re: [AOLSERVER] wiki very slow

2008-03-17 Thread Shedis
Similar experiences here from Istanbul Turkey. Browsing wiki has  
become very time consuming.



On Mar 17, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:


On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 08:09:12AM +, John Buckman wrote:

Just an FYI that the Aolserver wiki link from www.aolserver.com:

http://dev.aolserver.com/Tcl_API

takes over 20 seconds to load a page, and has been like this for a  
few

weeks.  It's not really useable at this speed.  It was fine at the
previous host.



I can confirm that from here...

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Re: [AOLSERVER] wiki very slow

2008-03-17 Thread Dossy Shiobara
The old location of the wiki is still available, though:

http://panoptic.com/wiki/aolserver

Use that, if the dev.aolserver.com one is running slowly -- I'll look
into the matter.

-- Dossy


On 2008.03.17, Shedis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Similar experiences here from Istanbul Turkey. Browsing wiki has become 
 very time consuming.

 On Mar 17, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 08:09:12AM +, John Buckman wrote:
 Just an FYI that the Aolserver wiki link from www.aolserver.com:

 http://dev.aolserver.com/Tcl_API

 takes over 20 seconds to load a page, and has been like this for a  
 few
 weeks.  It's not really useable at this speed.  It was fine at the
 previous host.


 I can confirm that from here...

-- 
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Panoptic Computer Network   | http://panoptic.com/
  He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own
folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on. (p. 70)


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