RE: Restaurants Again

2002-02-15 Thread Michael Giesbrecht

 From: Alex Tabarrok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 4:25 PM

 Many fine restaurants, however, have 
 long waiting times
 to get a reservation.  The French Laundry, for example, is 
 perhaps the best
 restaurant in America and the wait to get in is 2 months or 
 more! (2 months for
 a normal day - much longer if you want to book for Valentines 
 or something like
 that.)  This sort of waiting seems much more amenable to a Becker type
 explanation involving non-linearities and prestige factors.
 
My wife just informed me that The French Laundry's reservation policy
stipulates that reservations can only be made for the calendar date
*EXACTLY* two months ahead of the date you call to make the reservation. No
more or less. For example, today they are taking reservations for March 15,
2002, and no other date.

Getting a reservation thus requires spending a good portion of a day (or
several days) dialing and redialing the reservation line in an attempt to
get through, while everybody else is attempting to get through too. (I just
called to verify that this was indeed their reservation policy, and the line
was busy.)

What's the armchair explanation for that? My first suspicion is that it is
more important to them to be able to restrict public access to the resturant
in order to provide the desired atmosphere for the patrons that do get in.
The reservation system is probably circumvented by some pre-approved group
of patrons. But that's just a cynical guess.


Michael Giesbrecht
Internet Engineering
Lucasfilm Ltd.



Restaurants Again

2002-02-10 Thread Alex Tabarrok

Several weeks ago Fabio pointed out a novel reason why restaurants might choose
long lines intead of higher prices - the longer lines induce people in the
restaurant to eat faster.  This is an interesting suggestion but it misses
quite a bit of the phenomena because it applies (presumably) only to physical,
on-premises waiting.  Many fine restaurants, however, have long waiting times
to get a reservation.  The French Laundry, for example, is perhaps the best
restaurant in America and the wait to get in is 2 months or more! (2 months for
a normal day - much longer if you want to book for Valentines or something like
that.)  This sort of waiting seems much more amenable to a Becker type
explanation involving non-linearities and prestige factors.

Alex Tabarrok





Re: Restaurants Again

2002-02-10 Thread Dan Lewis


My father, who allegedly holds some sort of psycology degree, claims that
many restaurants (likely retail chains and not ma and pa's) train their
servers to drop subtile hints to get people out the door.  Everything from
asking if everything is OK to stopping to refill drink or clearing plates.  

Perhaps the reason larger prestige places have longer lines is because they
sell wine.  The markup on the entree is large because of the portion size
(probably).  But these restaurants must rake it in hand over fist selling
wine.  And while places like Pizzeria Unos give free refills on soda,
places like I Can't Afford To Eat Here always offer more, but are sure to
put it on the bill.  

But then again, I'm just a customer.

Dan Lewis
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At 08:54 PM 2/10/02 -0600, you wrote:

But how many restaurants have such long lines for a reservation? My hunch
is that most restaurants don't have any long lines, some have long
lines but you can easily get a reservation and there is a small fraction
like The French Laundry where you have to wait in line so you can wait
in line!

My hypothesis: Cheap eateries don't have lines, intermediate restaurants
use lines to speed up eating and the fancy places employ the
Becker/prestige mechanism.

Any industry insiders who can settle this one?

Fabio

 Several weeks ago Fabio pointed out a novel reason why restaurants might
choose
 long lines intead of higher prices - the longer lines induce people in the
 restaurant to eat faster.  This is an interesting suggestion but it misses
 quite a bit of the phenomena because it applies (presumably) only to
physical,
 on-premises waiting.  Many fine restaurants, however, have long waiting
times
 to get a reservation.  The French Laundry, for example, is perhaps the best
 restaurant in America and the wait to get in is 2 months or more! (2
months for
 a normal day - much longer if you want to book for Valentines or
something like
 that.)  This sort of waiting seems much more amenable to a Becker type
 explanation involving non-linearities and prestige factors.
 
 Alex Tabarrok