RE: [arr] Re: My Journey to the Heart of Rahman
This guy needs to take a journey to his own heart first before he can see A.R.Rahman's! lol! Hail ARR! Dasun To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: purev...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:27:14 + Subject: [arr] Re: My Journey to the Heart of Rahman Turns out, as Mr. Sundaram, and many others from India and elsewhere let me know, that Rahman did not, as I had claimed, write the music and lyrics for the closing song, Jai Ho—heard for the film's concluding song sequence, the last gasp nod to Bollywood staged with the final credits. This is INCORRECT. Rahman DID write the music. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, $ Pavan Kumar $ pawancum...@... wrote: http://www.counterpunch.org/yearsley04102009.html The Musical Patriot My Journey to the Heart of Rahman By DAVID YEARSLEY After I dedicated a column to the manifold errors of the soundtrack to Slumdog Millionaire by Oscar laureate A. R. Rahman the emails poured in from the sub-continent. Many admitted that they were glad to hear the Musical Patriot abuse a feel-good film about Indian poverty and denigrate its implausible music of redemption. Others thought my commentary ill-informed and cruel, and suggested that I would have rather have seen all the main characters killed off or mutilated to the tune of depressing laments. By coincidence I took in a screening of The Battle of Algiers a few days after the column appeared back in March, and witnessed again the harrowing torture scene that begins the film and to which Slumdog’stepid interrogation opener pays unwitting homage. The original score of The Battle of Algiers is the work of the incomparable Ennio Morricone, but the director Gillo Pontecorvo involved himself directly in choosing other music to follow important themes of the conflict. What we hear after the grim extraction of information by French interrogators from the small, aged Algerian is the opening chorus of Bach’s Matthew Passion, whose throbbing bass line and gnashing chromaticism tells us that we are in for brutal epic. It’s not just that Bach is a better composer than Rahman; few would contest that. Rather, Pontecorvo and Morricone understood that there is nothing in such cases there is nothing more difficult than truth, a necessary precondition for reconciliation. What I argued in my prosecutorial brief against Slumdog was that a soundtrack that avoids any real confrontation with its difficult subject matter, indeed numbs the viewer to the implications of the images on screen, and should not be trusted. The two-fisted Oscar for Rahman only confirmed my suspicions. The award is a dual barometer of manipulation and mediocrity. Along the many good-humored, funny, and gloriously vituperative emails I received, I had the good fortune to be corrected on one matter by Nandhu Sundaram, chief copy editor of the Times of London, who informed me that “a brilliant piece of criticism on A R Rahman’s music was marred by a slight factual error.â€� How gently did my correspondent point out a gaff that was hardly “slight.â€� Turns out, as Mr. Sundaram, and many others from India and elsewhere let me know, that Rahman did not, as I had claimed, write the music and lyrics for the closing song, “Jai Hoâ€�â€heard for the film’s concluding song sequence, the last gasp nod to Bollywood staged with the final credits. “Jai Hoâ€� won Oscar for best song. The words were in fact written by Gulzar, who, as an email from Sajay Janardhana Kurup instructed me, is “A Famous Indian Lyrisct who accepted a Muslim Pen name though being a Hindu.â€� I stand corrected many times over! Gulzar it is your lyrics that are crap! Rather than continue to simmer in my scorn for Slumdog I have now embarked on a study of Rahman’s work under the long-distance tutelage of Professor Nilanjana Bhattacharjya of Colorado College. She’s an expert on Bollywood music, and has this to say about Slumdog: “I can't begin to explain how tired I am of hearing about this film and what I think is some of A.R. Rahman's weakest work, so I am grateful (schadenfroh, more accurately) to see critiques of the film that are not based in its depiction of poor people in India, and Indian people's supposed inability to deal with seeing its dirty laundry. (It's hard to avoid unless you're blind, and that view overlooks a long history of extremely popular films in which significantly disadvantaged people get treated horrifically, fight against the system, and claw their way through to come out ahead despite their never being asked to be on an inane game show.â€� Professor Bhattacharjya has an illuminating article in the most recent issue of the journal Asian Music on song sequences in popular Hindi Film; though her focus in this essay is
RE: [arr] It's high time Kunal Ganjawala sings for ARR
I think he did sing Badan Duan Duan from Meenaxi, playing second fiddle to Asha of course, and if I'm not mistaken some song in Lakeer too. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:53:53 +Subject: [arr] It's high time Kunal Ganjawala sings for ARR As far as I know, ARR has not roped him in yet, despite praising himlots. Let's hope Kunal and ARR create magic together soon. _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan
RE: [arr] Gentle Rain - Singer Unnikrishnan
Nice article, Vithur. Unnikrishnan is one of my favorites and it is good to see that others share the same sort of reaction to his calm yet deep voice and his immaculate understanding of the context of songs. It does not get any better than Uyirum Neeye and Narumugaye. Thanks for sharing it. Regards, Dasun To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 23:26:33 +0530 Subject: [arr] Gentle Rain - Singer Unnikrishnan http://www.newindpress.com/sunday/sundayitems.asp?id=SEA20080301080020eTitle=ArtsrLink=0 I feel the softness of warm silk through the cold night. Between cold whispers and warm promises, I find a beautiful bird suspended in satin mystery flitting between us, gentle and yet energetic in its pirouettes. There is romance in the air tonight, albeit framed by the glitter of an early summer drizzle. And yet there is comfort to this tryst in the darkness. Fabric on the face, caressing and aromatic. Like a song rendered with skilful gentleness; undisturbing, restrained and yet sculpted. And gently,the snatch of such a song, somewhat distant. In a trice, I am standing beside a doorway looking deep into the eyes of an old, bent lady tending to a grown-up son, never once complaining. There is warmth in this pathos. This is a song entitled Uyirum Neeye (You are Life), in raga Kamas, from the film Pavithra. The composer is A R Rahman, and the singer is the inimitable P Unnikrishnan. I am not a statistician, but I can tell you that Unni has sung more songs for films than most classical musicians I know. Somehow, I have found that his connectivity has only grown as a consequence. Not that anyone outside the classical music fraternity particularly cares about his choice of musical outlets. And yet, I choose to address this particular aspect of classical crossover simply because I have always been a skeptic myself. I have heard Unnikrishnan render delicate phrasings and graciously curved improvisations in raga Atana almost a decade back at a prominent sabha during the December music festival. There was a gentleness to this serenade, sweeping languorously but piercing the heart and the mind with studied brilliance. In the years that ensued, I have seen a transitional Unni swerve in and out of this initial vibration. In this incredibly prolific journey, I have seen certain aspects of his music emerge. His ability to engage has grown, as has his understanding of the context within which his music should be framed. Context often becomes confused with the term theme, and I use Unni's example to illustrate the distinction. There is a certain vibration, a universal frequency that pervades our life and times, at any given juncture. This is not merely a mood but a certain framework that defines tastes, preferences and a 'reason-to-believe'. In Chennai, I have seen this frequency change with alarming regularity almost every year. And hence, the ubiquitous this year was a dull season or last year had more verve. I believe this frequency to be the result of both the sociocultural template within which we all operate and lead our lives, and the mood that pervades the ambience around concert halls, that are affected by developments in the classical music scenario (So many musicians sang rare ragas this year as compared to last year being an exemplar of this phenomenon). Tuning into this frequency is a part of the maturing process for any musician, irrespective of genre. Not to say that everyone should toe the 'party line' and stick to ideas that please the middle majority on the ever-changing bell curve of musical preferences. But an understanding of 'how much is too much' is perhaps closer to the point I am trying to make. And to this, at least partially, I attribute Unni's coming-of-age to his experiences in the realm without. The experience of films, seeing contexts being stressed on an insistent basis seems to have had a glowingly positive effect on his musical expression. I find his raga delineations having acquired a sheen that reflects a tremendous understanding of the context. And yet, the gentleness remains. Quiet, unassuming and almost self-effacing. But unarguably brilliant. To an ear trained to detect individual voices in multi-part orchestral harmony and understand classical improvisation and its resident regulations, Unni's voice has always carried a special place. Its dreamlike, soft quality has the ability to reach spaces deep inside your consciouness without seeming to be so intrusive. There is thought behind each inflection, and there is a justice that pervades the treatment of each syllable. Heavy ornamentation in some of his film songs notwithstanding, I find his voice having the quality of quiet rain on cherished afternoons. Restorative. For a large part of the last decade, I found Unni's engagement with film music often worrisome. The skepticism was
RE: [arr] General Question on Harmonic Structures of Raaga Scales
Thanks, Padmini. The book you had suggested is a step in the rght direction. I haven't had much luck finding anything useful online yet, but will continue to google. :) I follow the master and play the keyboards of course..hehe...not that well though! :P I wish!! And yes, Piya Ho is just something else.. isn't it? Thanks for your input. Take care, Dasun To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:15:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [arr] General Question on Harmonic Structures of Raaga Scales Hey Dasun, I am not sure how much this will help but there is a book by Pt Nikhil Ghosh known as an Introduction to Raga and Tala with a New System of Notation. This might have some information that you are looking for. To tell you honestly, I have not read the whole book completely, but seems like parts of the book might seem useful to you. And you can always do a Google search with some of the keywords like Raga scales, harmonics etc to see what comes up:-) Hope this helps. I will try and see what else I can find for you to research. Which instrument do you play? Piya ho is a lovely song. Best, Padmini On 2/28/08, Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I was just trying to find the chords for Piyo Ho (Water) today and it struck me that there may be some studies currently being done or which have already been completed on the harmonic structures of Raaga scales. We know harmony is not a concept with which Raagas were originally associated as they were purely designed to evoke specific feelings through the sequntial or horizontal organization of tones. Even Western music originated through similar means, but then later developed the vertical component of music that came to be know as harmony. So has there been any serious attempts by Indian musicians to discover any patterns that may lie at the heart of Raaga scales harmonically like we now have in Western music? I certainly will need to learn Raagas before I can venture out into anything so profound, but I'd be surprised nobody has already charted that course. Just curious. Let me know if anybody knows anything regarding this subject. Thanks in advance. Regards, Dasun Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. Play now! _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008
RE: [arr] Do Kadam – A Sublime Journey and A Sorrow th at Lingers
Sriram, thank you very much for the correction of the lyrics. Your source seems to have done a much better job at translating the poetry... can you please give me the source? I was struggling to figure out the phrase 'koun rehta hain sadaa' or 'koun deta hain sadaa' . Doesn't sada means forever, though? Or does it mean 'calling' as well? The movie translation too said 'who is calling us?' so this must be the correct meaning. Padmini, thanks for sharing that very personal story. That is the reward every artist would want to hear. So, I appreciate it very much. and to everybody for your wonderful feedback. Hail ARR! Dasun Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:03:05 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Do Kadam – A Sublime Journey and A Sorrow that Lingers To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got the below description of song from one of the sites. Hope this will be more helpful zi.ndagii haath milaa % (o life! join hands with me) saath chal saath me.n aa %(walk alongwith me. come with me) umr bhar saath rahii %( you had been with me my entire life) he he\-he do qadam aur sahii \-4 %( why not just two more steps, a very short distance) ko_ii suuraj kii Dagar %( some pathway that the Sun traverses) ko_ii sone kaa nagar %( some city constructed with gold) chaa.Nd ke rath pe chale %( let's proceed, riding on the chariot of the Moon) jahaa.N Thahare ye nazar %( wherever this eyesight takes a halt) dhuup dariyaa_o.n me.n hai %( there are oceans of sunlight) phir safar paa.Nvo.n me.n hai %( the journey is destined in the feet, again) dil kaa aawaaraa diyaa %( the rascal earthen lamp of the heart) duusare gaa.Nvo.n me.n hai %(is in some other village) aa_o chale.n ham wahii.n %( let's walk to that very place) do qadam aur sahii \-4 Kaab Dhalate hai.n jahaa.N %( where dreams set) dil pighalate hai.n jahaa.N %( where hearts melt) aa_o chalate hai.n vahii.n %( come, let's go only there) wo zamii.n duur nahii.n %( that land of destination is not far off) dostii hogii wahaa.N %( friendship will be there) roshanii hogii wahaa.N %( light will be there) us ujaale ke liye %( for that light) jal chuke laakho.n diye %( millions of earthen lamps have already burnt out) ek ham aur sahii %(why not we also, just one more) do qadam aur sahii \-4 kis kii aawaaz hai sun %(whose voice is this. just listen.) ye nayaa saaz hai sun %(this is some new musical instrument. just listen.) kaun detaa hai sadaa %(who is it giving a call) chal ke dekhe.n to zaraa %( let's explore) raah wiiraan sahii %( the path is without any traveller) raat sunasaan sahii %( the night is deserted) har gha.Dii saath rahe %(we remained together every moment) kitane Gam saath sahe %( how many sorrows we have weathered together) tho.De Gam aur sahii %( why not a little more sorrow) do qadam aur sahii \-4 --- On Tue, 19/2/08, Sriram Acharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sriram Acharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Do Kadam – A Sublime Journey and A Sorrow that Lingers To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 19 February, 2008, 8:57 PM Excellent Dasun, One of the most respected song of ARR. I always some new meaning towards destination when I listen to this awesome song and the interludes with timpani always sounds in my ears for hours every time I listen to this song. I really appreciate your description of this song though some words are not accurately mentioned. It's great. Thanks, Sriram. --- On Mon, 18/2/08, || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [arr] Do Kadam – A Sublime Journey and A Sorrow that Lingers To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, 18 February, 2008, 9:36 PM Dasun, I can't thank you enough for this beautiful writeup about one of my most favorite songs... You made my experience of listening to this already very close to my heart song, even more special emotional... -Vishwesh. Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: As promised..here' s my take on Do Kadam. Enjoy! :) Do Kadam – A Sublime Journey and A Sorrow that Lingers If a music artist wants to blossom into a full-fledged person, it's not enough if he knows only classical music; nor is it enough if he is well-versed only in raagas and techniques. Instead, he should be a knowledgeable person interested in life and philosophy. In his personal life there should be, at least in some corner of his heart, a tinge of lingering sorrow. When I first read this profound quote by ARR, it sparked, deep inside of me, something very sincere and beautiful; these words may have been that little pinch the sleeping artist within me, who I had forgotten due to the constant pursuit of survival instincts and was consciously trying to restrain by offering traditional societal expectations as excuses, needed to rub his eyes and wake up! I had a natural interest in life and philosophy
[arr] Do Kadam – A Sublime Journey and A Sorrow that Lingers
As promised..here's my take on Do Kadam. Enjoy! :) Do Kadam – A Sublime Journey and A Sorrow that Lingers If a music artist wants to blossom into a full-fledged person, it's not enough if he knows only classical music; nor is it enough if he is well-versed only in raagas and techniques. Instead, he should be a knowledgeable person interested in life and philosophy. In his personal life there should be, at least in some corner of his heart, a tinge of lingering sorrow. When I first read this profound quote by ARR, it sparked, deep inside of me, something very sincere and beautiful; these words may have been that little pinch the sleeping artist within me, who I had forgotten due to the constant pursuit of survival instincts and was consciously trying to restrain by offering traditional societal expectations as excuses, needed to rub his eyes and wake up! I had a natural interest in life and philosophy; it was as if these subjects were written into my genes, and I was always grateful to my parents and to my Buddhist upbringing for inculcating that sense of understanding and intuitive wisdom so early on in my life which made my life a little easier and more balanced during the typically turbulent teen-ages, though it often seemed to outsiders a very difficult and restrained one. It is this same intuitive sense of balance and understanding, now I realize, that drew me to the naturally symmetrical music of my life’s early heroes - ARR and Yanni - at the age of 13 and made me appreciate and grow with their exquisite music. But, until the moment of reading this quote, I had not made the connection between these natural interests of mine and the awe-inspiring and divine profession of the true artist. What is lacking within this dormant artist that keeps him from getting out of his cozy bed? What is this tinge of lingering sorrow that ARR has in a corner of his heart? What sorrow could lie in the heart of this man, who, to me, embodies all that is beautiful, happy, and heavenly? Is it this sorrow that I lack? Years passed as an uninterrupted supply of beautiful music and incredible artistry from the maestro continued to subconsciously alter my spiritual state of being for the better while I contently lived with my latent artist trying to figure out what this sorrow is and how and where is it that he is going to find it. Then, in early 2004, I bought an album I had anxiously awaited for quite some time; it brought together India’s foremost painter – M.F. Hussein – in his second directorial venture with India’s foremost composer – A.R. Rahman! I knew I was going to get magic from this album well before its release! The music was true to expectations, very colorfully crafted, and quite deftly and intricately woven with ARR himself attempting to reach the abstract heights of an M.F. Hussein painting in the two instrumental pieces; however, one song stood out every time I listened to the entire album. It was something very special and the sounds and emotions spoke to my heart directly; yes, this song was divine! Do Kadam gave me so many goose-bumps each time I listened to it that I started to skip all the other songs (except, perhaps, for Rang Hain) and play only that over and over again; that is a high compliment given the quality of the entire album! I did not understand the Hindi lyrics (by Rahat Indori) fully at first except for a phrase here and there, though it was enough, I thought, to put together a rough sketch of what the song was about. I was wrong! This song could not be enjoyed in its fullest being by putting together its pieces in a haphazard manner like I did. In fact, to this day, I find some deeper meaning to the creativity in this song. As with any divinely inspired song, the first few notes and sounds captured my attention: it was synthetic, it was mystical, and it was vintage ARR! Enter the classy Sonu Nigam… Lyrics: Zindagi, haath mila; saath chal, saath me aa; Umr-bhar saath rahi Trans: Life, take this hand; come, come along with me; We will walk together forever And a gentle synth base guitar lick in the background picks up volume lifting you up as if you were in a helicopter taking off from earth. Lyrics: Do kadam aur, sahi, do kadam aur, sahiII Trans: two more steps, all right, two more stepsII …and a happily persistent string section leads the protagonist, (given the movie’s context, an artist: a writer), in a casual two step walk, guiding him down a sun lit path towards a golden land as the music bathes you in brilliant bright light. Lyrics: Koi suraj ki dagar, koi sone ka nagar Chaand ke rath pe chale, jahan tehre yeh nazar Trans: Some sunlit path, some golden city Walk in the path of the moon, where, this gaze would freeze And the synth lead guitar applies a slight break along the way followed by a wonderful panoramic scan of the scenes, which beautifully sets up the next lines. Lyrics:
RE: [arr] sarah brightman's journey home
Yes, Sarah Brightman did pick Journey Home from BD for this Middle-eastern music influenced Harem album after Andre Lloyd Webber, her ex-husband, had recommended it. ARR, I believe, did not like this version because it was made a dance track half-way through the song and sounded too artificial. This is perhaps, one of the better songs of BD. Reagrds, Dasun To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:28:35 + Subject: [arr] sarah brightman's journey home i didnt know this?! http://www.sarahbrightman.co.uk/voice/albums/harem.html _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008
RE: [arr] Re: ARR nominated for Best Playback Singer award
It's about time they nominated him for singing...Lukka Chuppi and Yeh Jo Des Hai certainly was worth atleast a nomination. I hope he can win at least one best playback singer awards. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 01:41:34 +Subject: [arr] Re: ARR nominated for Best Playback Singer award Good one. He should have been nominated in 2004 for Yeh Jo Desh Hai Tera.--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 53rd annual Filmfare Awards Best Composer A.R.Rahman - Guru Monty Sharma - Saawariya Pritam - Jab We Met Pritam - Life in a Metro Vishal-Shekhar - Om Shanti Om Best Male Playback Singer A.R.Rahman - Tere Bina (Guru) KK - Aankhon Mein Teri (Om Shanti Om) Shaan - Jab Se Tere Naina (Saawariya) Sonu Nigam - Main Agar Kahoon (Om Shanti Om) Sukhvinder Singh - Chak De (Chak De India) Other ARR-related nominations Best Lyrics: Gulzar - Tere Bina (Guru) Best Female Playback Singer: Shreya Ghoshal - Barso Re Megha (Guru) _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
RE: [arr] Re: Top 5 Rain songs
I love this song...certainly the most happy rain song I'd ever heard. Innocence, mischief, love, happiness, all in one..brilliant song indeed. To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 09:59:56 + Subject: [arr] Re: Top 5 Rain songs ever heard of Chinna Chinna Mazhaithuzhigal - En Swase Katrea?? i think thats by far ARR's best Rain song... excellent lyrics with the real effect of 'rainy' beats. its shocking how u 4gotten this song and could put the Saathiya number as a rain song. Barso Re had the beats of YSR's 2005 release Sill Sill - Arindhum Ariyamalum beats. thats a good rain song too. _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan
RE: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part I - Originality
itself (may not be a rebel but musically very new to ear) Girlfreind (Boys) is defe a rebel song to me!! Dil se ending score ...true rebelious innisai (GF)... Kunjum mainakale (KK) isn't a rebel as a romantic song (I never heard such romantic rebel before)? Vellai Pukal... its a rebel song to me with no weapons no noise... rebel can be done piecefully Rahman roved that The whole RDB album is rebelious (including awesome BMG) O humdum (Sathiya) this is another new genre introduced by none other than Rahman... this is also 1st of its kind Chotta chotta (Tajmahal)... what a melody and blend of flute... again never heard this kind of song (if anyone heard anything like this pls let us know...we will enjoy that too) Till now I remeber these after Thiruda Thiruda (that is the best by Rahman in my opinion). Anyway new sound or rebel songs will be growing in my list. Arijit On 31/01/2008, Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shah Navas, Sorry for the delayed reply. From a purely intuitive level, Thamizha Thamizha didn't strike me as innovatively original, to qualify my use of the term original now. Thee Thee just jumps at you when you listen to it as incredibly new...I mean I haven't heard a single song like that since then..where the base guitar is used to amazing effect...that was that pure daring, rebellious freshness that I was looking for...Dil Se Re perhaps comes closest to that kind of in-your-face creativity. I guess there is an element of high energy that you look for in things like that, and Thamizha Thamizha, though it has energy, is more of a soulful composition than energetic. I would love to have another one like Dil Se or Thee Thee where you just have to stop everything you do and drop your jaws! :) You are certainly entitled to your opinion; I hope that clarifies my point of view. Good stuff..let's keep expanding. :) Take care, Dasun To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:05:32 +0530 Subject: Re: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part I - Originality Dasun says Roja, along with the likes of Puthiya Mugham, Uzhavan, and Bombay would qualify as some of the most soulful and brilliantly crafted albums, but, not the most original. Dasun, I request you to elaborate on this. I don't have any music knowledge. But I see 'Thee Thee' from 'Thiruda Thiruda' and 'Tamizha Tamizha' from 'Roja' loosely have the same structure. Both the songs start with a slow melody and moves into a contrasting plane with burst of sound and vocals and resumes back the melody. It's like 2 different songs are interwoven into one. Still they convey a unified theme. In that sense 'Tamizha Tamizha' is more original to me as it's a patriotic song which expresses many moods - hope, anger, motivation, depression and the lyrics similarly matches the music or vice versa. But if you take 'Thee Thee', the doesn't necessarily depict a theme or a situation, rather doesn't even match the picturisation. I feel it was more of an experiment by Rahman and Manirathnam included the song (like most of the times). If you see both these songs in this context 'Tamizha Tamizha' is more original. On Jan 28, 2008 12:28 PM, shanavas.chemmamkuzhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dasun is talking about 92-96 era. Earth released on 98. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well I feel thats nonsense. You can see his original works in earth then onto lagaan and then upto swades atleast. Not to mention water ! On Jan 28, 2008 12:08 PM, : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dasun.. That's really well thought, in depth writeup man. You really stole my words! :) I was thinking, how to explain 'chord' about defining ARR standards and you perfectly reflected my mind.. :) Keep it flowing.. Thanks.. -Avinash -- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, Dasun Abeysekera dtdja@ wrote: Originality The most original songs of the 92-96 era, in my opinion, are Thee Thee from Thiruda Thiruda (93) and Mettupodu from Duet (94); and their respective albums too can be called the most original from ARR's highest creative standpoint. Roja would certainly have to be considered original if we compare ARR's originality to the relative originality of the musical backdrop of that era, but that is not what we are attempting here; I feel that compared with the aforementioned albums, Roja, along with the likes of Puthiya Mugham, Uzhavan, and Bombay would qualify as some of the most soulful and brilliantly crafted albums, but, not the most original; again, please keep in mind that my comparisons are confined to ARR's body of work and not extended to any comparison's with the work by any of his composer peers. Thiruda Thiruda (93) was a breakthrough album for ARR as he was able to match
RE: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part I - Originality
Shah Navas, Sorry for the delayed reply. From a purely intuitive level, Thamizha Thamizha didn't strike me as innovatively original, to qualify my use of the term original now. Thee Thee just jumps at you when you listen to it as incredibly new...I mean I haven't heard a single song like that since then..where the base guitar is used to amazing effect...that was that pure daring, rebellious freshness that I was looking for...Dil Se Re perhaps comes closest to that kind of in-your-face creativity. I guess there is an element of high energy that you look for in things like that, and Thamizha Thamizha, though it has energy, is more of a soulful composition than energetic. I would love to have another one like Dil Se or Thee Thee where you just have to stop everything you do and drop your jaws! :) You are certainly entitled to your opinion; I hope that clarifies my point of view. Good stuff..let's keep expanding. :) Take care, Dasun To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:05:32 +0530 Subject: Re: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part I - Originality Dasun says Roja, along with the likes of Puthiya Mugham, Uzhavan, and Bombay would qualify as some of the most soulful and brilliantly crafted albums, but, not the most original. Dasun, I request you to elaborate on this. I don't have any music knowledge. But I see 'Thee Thee' from 'Thiruda Thiruda' and 'Tamizha Tamizha' from 'Roja' loosely have the same structure. Both the songs start with a slow melody and moves into a contrasting plane with burst of sound and vocals and resumes back the melody. It's like 2 different songs are interwoven into one. Still they convey a unified theme. In that sense 'Tamizha Tamizha' is more original to me as it's a patriotic song which expresses many moods - hope, anger, motivation, depression and the lyrics similarly matches the music or vice versa. But if you take 'Thee Thee', the doesn't necessarily depict a theme or a situation, rather doesn't even match the picturisation. I feel it was more of an experiment by Rahman and Manirathnam included the song (like most of the times). If you see both these songs in this context'Tamizha Tamizha' is more original. On Jan 28, 2008 12:28 PM, shanavas.chemmamkuzhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dasun is talking about 92-96 era. Earth released on 98. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well I feel thats nonsense. You can see his original works in earth then onto lagaan and then upto swades atleast. Not to mention water ! On Jan 28, 2008 12:08 PM, : Avinash : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dasun.. That's really well thought, in depth writeup man. You really stole my words! :) I was thinking, how to explain 'chord' about defining ARR standards and you perfectly reflected my mind.. :) Keep it flowing.. Thanks.. -Avinash -- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, Dasun Abeysekera dtdja@ wrote: Originality The most original songs of the 92-96 era, in my opinion, are Thee Thee from Thiruda Thiruda (93) and Mettupodu from Duet (94); and their respective albums too can be called the most original from ARR's highest creative standpoint. Roja would certainly have to be considered original if we compare ARR's originality to the relative originality of the musical backdrop of that era, but that is not what we are attempting here; I feel that compared with the aforementioned albums, Roja, along with the likes of Puthiya Mugham, Uzhavan, and Bombay would qualify as some of the most soulful and brilliantly crafted albums, but, not the most original; again, please keep in mind that my comparisons are confined to ARR's body of work and not extended to any comparison's with the work by any of his composer peers. Thiruda Thiruda (93) was a breakthrough album for ARR as he was able to match, if not exceed, the expectations surrounding his second post-Illayaraja Mani Ratnam production after Roja, which could not have been an easy task for a 25 year old who thought his first movie album would be his last! Thee Thee's stunning energy and freshness is only the icing on the cake after the beautiful vocal tapestry of Raasathi, the operatic grandeur of Veerapandi Kottayile, and barring its close references to Michael Jackson-like dance beats, Chandralekha as well. Duet (94), on the other hand, with an unprecedented use of Kadiri Gopalnath and his saxophone to showcase Carnatic music, was quite a daringly original attempt for a movie; to say both maestros pulled it off with shocking success, would be an understatement. So, has there been a song/album of that calibre in recent times? I think
[arr] Uyirum Neeye - ARR's Shot at Painting the Creation of Mother
As promised, here's the write-up on Uyirum Neeye. I just wanted to share this awesome experience about one of my all-time favorite songs. Some of you may have already felt this sense of jubilation, but I wanted to share my process of discovering the magnificence of this divinely inspired song. Rano, once in this forum, mentioned the beauty of the song Azhagu Nilave from Pavithra (1994). In the process of going through Pavithra's songs on the iTunes Music Store to find Azhagu Nilave, I found Uyirum Neeye as well, in my opinion, easily the best song of the album; and I came to that conclusion with no knowledge of what the lyrics meant. It was a purely gut response to the scintillating music and Unnikrishnan's enviable voice. Unnikrishnan apparently won the 1995 National Award for Best Male Playback singer for his rendition of this song along with another incredible song - 'Ennavale' from Shankar's Kaadhalan; and Ennavale was his first film song? Unbelievable! Divine interventions aside, the music spoke of something special that I was so determined to discover, for I knew well by then, that there is something deeper than the notes and Raagas which ARR tries to convey through his music; and if the intuitive discovery of that, as is well known, takes time, the intellectual discovery, for the crazy Rahmaniac who yearns to dive the depths of his imagination, takes even longer! I must have posted a couple of requests on this forum begging for a translation of the song, but did not get one for a while. Then on 6/3/06, one of our members here posted the translation. I usually write down the date and source when I make a copy of anything, but unfortunately, in this instance, I forgot to write down the name of the member who posted it; so my apologies for not crediting the source. Please do let me know your name if you see this message. After I read the lyrics, my wonderment of this song reached new heights. It is a given that the poetry by Vairamuthu is in a class of it's own. Wikipedia states Pavithra and Karuthamma (both with ARR's music) fetched him the National Award for Best Lyrics in 95 as well (I don't care much for Filmfare Awards, but a National Award carries merit!). What the lyrics expressed was obvious. It was a grand tribute to a mother; but, the music was not the usual music you hear in a typical son-to-mother song. So, I listened carefully to what the music was trying to say for the longest time. Usually, most music directors will get the inspiration for the song from the first verse (mukhda); so I focused on the mukhda and how ARR might have thought about capturing this in the music. Uyirum neeye, udalum neeye, uravum neeye...thaaye (II) Thun udalil sumandhu, uyirai pagirndhu, uruvam tharuvaai neeye (II) Un kaNNil vazhiyum oru thuLi podhum, Kadalum urugum thaaye (II) Un kaaladi mattum tharuvai thaaye, Sorgam enbadhum poyye * source = http://www.geocities.com/promiserani/tamil/t1036.html My life, My body, My binding...my Mother (II) Bearing me in your self, bestowing your life to me, and embodying me (II) A single tear drop from your eyes and oceans drown (II) Gift me your feet and the heavens seem a lie. * source = member of this group First I thought the guitar introduction was inspired by the phrase, 'a single tear drop from your eyes,' as the first two notes of the bended B and the F# feels like a drop of tear as it escapes the corner of a mother's eye and lands to drown an ocean; and that phrase does bring out a beautiful change in line 3 of the mukhda as well. I wish I can give you a musical analysis of this, but my knowledge of Raagas is almost non-existent. I know the song is based on Raag Kamas. If someone can provide that, it will be awesome and I would be very grateful! I'm trying to analyze the music with my knowledge of western music, which might not be the best way to approach the musical analysis, but it will be interesting to see the results. I'll share it when I have it ready. I kept thinking about the teardrop inspiration, but the flamenco-influenced, but Carnatic-flavored guitar solos interspersed with the Saraswathi Veena were too mesmerizing to be inspired by only a teardrop. I have not yet seen the movie - Pavithra, so I don't know how this song had been picturised. Sometimes the picturization can offer hints about how the music was inspired. So, I stuck with the lyrics and moved on to the second verse (anthra). PeNNai padaithaan, maNNai padaitthaan Katrum, mazhaiyum, oliyum padaitthaan (II) Boomikku adhanaal nimmadhi illai (II) Sami thavitthan... Sami thavitthan thaayai padaitthan He created the skies, He created the sands, The winds, the rains, the light, He created, Yet, peace reigns not on Earth, He struggled in anguish... He struggled in anguish and created Mother This anthra is as powerful lyrically as the mukhda with a magic touch added with the pause and the single F# on guitar playing
RE: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part II - Aesthetic Judgment
Dear Rahmaniacs, First of all, let me say I'm humbled by all the wonderful responses you have sent. I have saved each and every one of them and thought I'd use one email to respond to all of you. Anand: Yes, being in touch with your own spirit and its connectivity to all of life is the key to reaching higher consciousness - it is really about self-awareness. There is so much beauty to be experienced at each higher level and we need profound minds like Mozart and ARR, who push us subconsciously through their music and Einstein and Tolstoy, who illuminate the true nature of our universe and humanity to help us reach those levels consciously. Dinesh: I will try to post some of my feelings on ARR and his music in the future as and when I find the time. I have always been grateful to Gopal and this forum, which when I joined had less than 200 fans, for giving me the opportunity to share the wealth of feelings that ARR had inculcated in me through his music first, then through his personality and thoughts. I'm happy to have woken you up from your slumber: as Kailash Kher says - Jaago! :) Padmini: The song I analyzed was Uyirum Neeye and not Kehna Hai Kya. Since there are so many new members here, I will re-post it. Perhaps, I need to load articles like these in a shared location in the group so that fans can read it at their leisure. I would love to have Swapnil's musical reviews in one place if possible too. As I always experience at work, good ideas just come and go because we don't store them in anything else, but emails, which are really hard to manage. Neena and Raghu: I think above, I answered your interests and concerns regarding the request to start our own journal on ARR's music. Yes, Gops is already doing so much for this group and we can't ask any more of him. I think we just need to organize our resources already flowing through this forum and make them easily available and accessible to the thousands of fans who are a part of this group. I'm sure that would be something we can do fairly easily. Gomzy: I think your point is fair regarding the lack of originality, but I used the word in the sense of innovativativeness more than genuineness. I doubt I will ever have to question ARR's sincerity. Siraj, Suresh, Krishna Kumar, Vithur, Chord, Avinash, Shanavas, Durbha and all: thank you again for your kind comments, they'll help me stay motivated to write more of these, and before that, finish this one! :) Like some director once said (forget who exactly it was), ARR is like an ocean..so calm and so deep. If we can explore how much creativity is conjured up by him in those moments of spontaneous revelation, which I feel is what he experiences, we can grow a little deeper than we are now, achieve a little more awareness of ourselves and the world around us. If I can help in that quest by writing these articles, then that will be my gift to ARR. Take care and thanks again, Dasun To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:41:40 + Subject: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part II - Aesthetic Judgment So well and rightly said. It was a sheer bliss reading your write-up! Thank you so much for this wonderul post. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aesthetic Judgment (Taste) I don't have to tell you that ARR's taste is of the highest possible kind compared with composers of all time. I mean how many composers the world-over has ever had the privilege of being compared to the ideal of Mozart, let alone being called one? Not even the kings of melody of the West – Richard Rogers (of The Sound of Music (59) fame) Sir Francis Lai (Love Story (1970)), Maurice Jarr (Dr. Zhivago (1965)), or even Ennio Morricone, who have written some of the most soulful and moving music I have ever heard, have been told they are like Mozart, at least not to my knowledge. Most music lovers, and all great minds, Leo Tolstoy and Albert Einstein among them, have acknowledged unanimously that Mozart's music is the most perfect and the most universal imagined, no, let me use the word conjured, by any human being; because imagination, to many, could still mean there's some conscious involvement in that process of creation; perhaps, it is still a conscious process, but it is a far superior sense of consciousness that, by average human standards, it cannot be called one. If anybody here has seen the Oscar-winning movie Amadeus (84) by Milos Forman, you can see why it is so: Mozart's music, to use a phrase Einstein once used, seems like have simply been `plucked out of the universe'; the great scientist who adored Mozart and used to play his Sonatas on his little violin when he wanted a break from his scientific pursuits, says that compared to Mozart, Beethoven's music feels `too personal, almost naked.' Tolstoy
[arr] ARR's Standard Deviation - Part II - Aesthetic Judgment
Aesthetic Judgment (Taste) I don’t have to tell you that ARR’s taste is of the highest possible kind compared with composers of all time. I mean how many composers the world-over has ever had the privilege of being compared to the ideal of Mozart, let alone being called one? Not even the kings of melody of the West – Richard Rogers (of The Sound of Music (59) fame) Sir Francis Lai (Love Story (1970)), Maurice Jarr (Dr. Zhivago (1965)), or even Ennio Morricone, who have written some of the most soulful and moving music I have ever heard, have been told they are like Mozart, at least not to my knowledge. Most music lovers, and all great minds, Leo Tolstoy and Albert Einstein among them, have acknowledged unanimously that Mozart’s music is the most perfect and the most universal imagined, no, let me use the word conjured, by any human being; because imagination, to many, could still mean there’s some conscious involvement in that process of creation; perhaps, it is still a conscious process, but it is a far superior sense of consciousness that, by average human standards, it cannot be called one. If anybody here has seen the Oscar-winning movie Amadeus (84) by Milos Forman, you can see why it is so: Mozart’s music, to use a phrase Einstein once used, seems like have simply been ‘plucked out of the universe’; the great scientist who adored Mozart and used to play his Sonatas on his little violin when he wanted a break from his scientific pursuits, says that compared to Mozart, Beethoven’s music feels ‘too personal, almost naked.’ Tolstoy, in his polemical book ‘What is Art?’ destroys the kind of conscious creativity that he believes Beethoven and the followers of the Romantic movement that he charted, Richard Wagner, for example, brought about to Europe, overthrowing the musical dominance of the spontaneous and universal music of Mozart. In essence, Mozart’s music and its perfection are not a result of conscious processing, they come from a superior sense of natural harmony and an extremely rare capability of letting go of one’s self and connecting with the universal spirit and listening to it in all its infinite beauty. There cannot be a more fitting description of ARR’s music and how he has conjured his magical output over the years; and it is no accident that the West would offer up their ideal for comparison with the best the East has offered to date. That sort of taste, a sincere kinship with the natural harmony and beauty of the universe, with God, if you will, years in an industry cannot fade away or dilute, and, if anything, I can confidently say that ARR’s taste has, over the years, been refined like fine old wine, and I have not witnessed an instance where his aesthetic judgment, given the proper opportunities, has faltered beyond identification. In his choice of movies, directors, and lyrics, there maybe exceptions, but I will address these in a later category. It is difficult to pin down one or two works from the 92-96 period in which, like Rano said, beauty oozed out of every single phrase that he weaved, but I will pick two of my favorite songs ‘Kannalane’ from Bombay (95) and ‘Uyirum Neeye’ from Pavitra (94) in which I think ARR achieves the highest form of perfection. Sometime back, I analyzed the beauty of the song Uyirum Neeye from a conceptual viewpoint, so if anybody is interested, let me know and I will send it to you or post it on the forum. Kannalane (or Kehna Hai Kya), I hear, has entered the music textbooks in certain parts of the world (Canada, if I recall correctly)! Yes, these are songs of superior beauty that they have that universal appeal that Tolstoy hailed as the finest ingredient of the greatest of art. What about now? What are the ARR compositions within the past 5 years which evoke the same feelings in me? Piya Ho from Water (2005) and Do Kadam from Meenaxi (2004) for sure are my favorites from this period with Tere Bina from Guru not too far off. When I refer to the perfection of these songs, I mean that I don’t feel that I need to remove any part, any phrase, any instrument, sound or note, everything is in the right place at the right time! If anybody felt differently about these songs, I would be curious to know which parts destroy the perfection of these songs. I can write an essay on the song Do Kadam and will do soon so that I can back up my feelings just like I did with Uyirum Neeye. Do Kadam is so personal for me that I don’t want to hold it up as universal! This song symbolizes what ARR and I share in silence without speaking a single word with each-other, but by connecting to the same universal spirit that we both trust wholeheartedly and by whose mysterious ways we are awed day in and day out. The highest taste, as Immanuel Kant defines it, is always subjective, but universal, and it will always flow from God and only God; Not only is ARR connected with Him, he can articulate His beauty with such
RE: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part I - Originality
Thanks to all for the responses. Purevibz, you pretty much wrote the prelude to part II of my essay. I agree, innovativeness may have been a better word than originality, because as you would understand from reading the second part, his music still flows from the origin of all life, and therefore it must be original! :) I should've taken my GRESs, and I warned you that I'm still learning too!! lol. I'm glad you understood my point though. Let's keep the discussion going. Hail ARR! Dasun To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:15:12 + Subject: [arr] Re: ARR's Standard Deviation - Part I - Originality Actually, let me modify my post a bit. Yes, ARR has lost his youth, freshness, and reblliousness. I agree with you there. There was an energy, innovativeness, and fire to those compositions, which perhaps many are missing today. I feel that he has made up for this loss through more mature compositional style and craftmanship as well as a more refined skill in pure melody and providing more room to the lyrics and singer. I don't think he has lost his originality in the purest of sense, although he is not as innovative as he once was. I think there is a difference here. Yes, I have questioned some of his choices of sound and arrangements in recent years, but to me it's not a loss, it's a choice. With JA, my concerns about sound quality were quickly put to ease as this is one of his best sonically sounding records. You have to remember too that music, emotion, and memory are to tied in together. Many of us look back on Rahman's music in the early days with nostalgia, which is in and of itself a confounding variable. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonderful essay. Too bad it doesn't change my opinion that ARR has not lost A THING since the beginning. He is just as brilliant and original as before. Let's agree to disagree and move on. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Dasun Abeysekera dtdja@ wrote: Originality The most original songs of the 92-96 era, in my opinion, are Thee Thee from Thiruda Thiruda (93) and Mettupodu from Duet (94); and their respective albums too can be called the most original from ARR's highest creative standpoint. Roja would certainly have to be considered original if we compare ARR's originality to the relative originality of the musical backdrop of that era, but that is not what we are attempting here; I feel that compared with the aforementioned albums, Roja, along with the likes of Puthiya Mugham, Uzhavan, and Bombay would qualify as some of the most soulful and brilliantly crafted albums, but, not the most original; again, please keep in mind that my comparisons are confined to ARR's body of work and not extended to any comparison's with the work by any of his composer peers. Thiruda Thiruda (93) was a breakthrough album for ARR as he was able to match, if not exceed, the expectations surrounding his second post-Illayaraja Mani Ratnam production after Roja, which could not have been an easy task for a 25 year old who thought his first movie album would be his last! Thee Thee's stunning energy and freshness is only the icing on the cake after the beautiful vocal tapestry of Raasathi, the operatic grandeur of Veerapandi Kottayile, and barring its close references to Michael Jackson-like dance beats, Chandralekha as well. Duet (94), on the other hand, with an unprecedented use of Kadiri Gopalnath and his saxophone to showcase Carnatic music, was quite a daringly original attempt for a movie; to say both maestros pulled it off with shocking success, would be an understatement. So, has there been a song/album of that calibre in recent times? I think it will be an accurate statement to say that there has not been a song like Thee Thee or Mettupodu in recent times, certainly not a conceptually original album of Duet's kind, and most surely not an album for an Indian movie. Now why could that be? First of all, as you lose your youthful freshness and become enmeshed in a system, you lose a significant share of that rebellious spirit. Albert Einstein said during his latter years when he went on his quest to discover a Unified Field Theory, how much he wished he had that same rebellious spirit which fuelled his strength of mind and imaginative powers to overthrow the revered Laws of Sir Isaac Newton and his universe of absolute time and space with the new Relativity Theory. Similarly, in United States presidential politics, Sen. Barack Obama is touting his freshness in Washington as one of his biggest strengths for bringing about real change to the country. So, yes, time spent in any environment can significantly
RE: [arr] Re: Can someone define living up to ARR's own standards?
I agree with Rano that the first 5 years of ARR's entry into Movie Music brought about an astounding outpouring of quality music that early listeners like Rano and myself, among many, were so overwhelmed and mesmerized. I can still recall the goosebumps I felt all over me when I first heard those scintillating and crystal clear synth sounds of Pudu Vellai Mazhai in my living room; its glissandos inducing many cool thrills up my spine. This was before his minor-digression into Prabhudeva influenced rhythmic songs over the colorful melodies of those first years, which attracted the first wave of harsh criticisms of ARR's falling below his own standards; and in ARR's defence, let me say that he did admit to being somewhat guilty of diverting his attention to more commercial efforts during the 95-97 period. Coming back to the early years, true, we have not heard those same sounds from ARR in recent times, but that is certainly not to say that he has given up, or even consciously softened his emphasis over these standards, which, to me, are still a league above the prevailing norm. That is not to mention the now very widely accepted fact that the prevailing norm has largely been shaped by ARR's pioneering work of those early years! Before we delve into a serious discussion about comparing and criticizing standards of different eras, we have to ask what we mean by 'standards': Are we comparing originality, aesthetic judgment (or taste), use of technology, choice of movies and lyrics, choice of singers and instruments, etc? Most of these standards, ARR himself acknowledged early on in his career, were very close to his heart and the advancement of which were among his main reasons for entering the movie industry. So, while I’m sure he is open enough to allow criticisms of his works, he would love to know on what facts we base our judgments. Also, for the sake of balance, I will compare the works of the 5-year period from 1992-96 with the 5-year period from 2003-07. I am just trying to keep aflame, perhaps by lighting a side fire or two, what I feel is a very worthy topic for discussion. All my thoughts here will be open for debate for I too am still learning and would love to hear the thoughts from what, to us ‘old-timers’, has now become quite a massive group! So let us investigate ARR’s Standard Deviation over the 15 years of his reign! I will post my discussion in categorical parts so that I don’t estrange you with an unpleasantly long email! If you are interested in the discussion, look for the subject line 'ARR's Standard Deviation - Part X - SUBJECT' in your inboxes for there are 100s of emails now flowing per day and I understand that you may not have the time to go through each and every email. Best regards, Dasun To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:12:02 + Subject: [arr] Re: Can someone define living up to ARR's own standards? Let me try to explain. For the first 5 years, between 1992 and 1996, almost none of the people here or ANYWHERE will be able to find 5 A R songs that they didn't like. Out of 25-30 albums. That's a high standard. Every phrase, every intro, every verse is astounding from that period. In Guru, the first interlude from Barso Re is phenomenal and no other composer is capable of that kind of music, and many fans think that A R is capable of sustaining that sort of quality over the length of the entire album, which may or may not happen because the songs are extremely situational nowadays. It is RIDICULOUS for anyone here to say that one cannot criticize this aspect of Rahman's music or that, because there are many many fans who have been there since the first song of A R R ever aired and before, and have a right to express their feelings. I am curious to know how old some of you are, because there seems to be a generational gap developing in this group :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hear this phrase over and over and over in reviews. What does that mean exactly? Is it purely subjective or are there elements of Rahman's best works that can be operationalized? If ARR is a progressive artist who doesn't stick to formulas, what exactly are his standards that people expect him to adhere to album after album? I think it's the same dilemma for all suuccessful artists. You take rock bands from the west, you hear so many comments about how their earlier works outshine later works. Oh, this group's music back in the 70s was so much better than their work now. Their own success haunts them down the road, if they let it. Let's take JA. If you want to compare elements of JA to his most highly rated soundtracks of the past, there is good melody, amazing musicianship, crystal clear sound, beautiful ornamentation and attention to musical detail, haunting
[arr] ARR's Standard Deviation - Part I - Originality
Originality The most original songs of the 92-96 era, in my opinion, are Thee Thee from Thiruda Thiruda (93) and Mettupodu from Duet (94); and their respective albums too can be called the most original from ARR's highest creative standpoint. Roja would certainly have to be considered original if we compare ARR's originality to the relative originality of the musical backdrop of that era, but that is not what we are attempting here; I feel that compared with the aforementioned albums, Roja, along with the likes of Puthiya Mugham, Uzhavan, and Bombay would qualify as some of the most soulful and brilliantly crafted albums, but, not the most original; again, please keep in mind that my comparisons are confined to ARR’s body of work and not extended to any comparison’s with the work by any of his composer peers. Thiruda Thiruda (93) was a breakthrough album for ARR as he was able to match, if not exceed, the expectations surrounding his second post-Illayaraja Mani Ratnam production after Roja, which could not have been an easy task for a 25 year old who thought his first movie album would be his last! Thee Thee’s stunning energy and freshness is only the icing on the cake after the beautiful vocal tapestry of Raasathi, the operatic grandeur of Veerapandi Kottayile, and barring its close references to Michael Jackson-like dance beats, Chandralekha as well. Duet (94), on the other hand, with an unprecedented use of Kadiri Gopalnath and his saxophone to showcase Carnatic music, was quite a daringly original attempt for a movie; to say both maestros pulled it off with shocking success, would be an understatement. So, has there been a song/album of that calibre in recent times? I think it will be an accurate statement to say that there has not been a song like Thee Thee or Mettupodu in recent times, certainly not a conceptually original album of Duet’s kind, and most surely not an album for an Indian movie. Now why could that be? First of all, as you lose your youthful freshness and become enmeshed in a system, you lose a significant share of that rebellious spirit. Albert Einstein said during his latter years when he went on his quest to discover a Unified Field Theory, how much he wished he had that same rebellious spirit which fuelled his strength of mind and imaginative powers to overthrow the revered Laws of Sir Isaac Newton and his universe of absolute time and space with the new Relativity Theory. Similarly, in United States presidential politics, Sen. Barack Obama is touting his freshness in Washington as one of his biggest strengths for bringing about real change to the country. So, yes, time spent in any environment can significantly reduce your capacity for daring and originality, which is what we are seeing with ARR in India. However, let us not forget that we owe much of the advancement of the quality of Indian music to him and let’s not be surprised if his most original work comes from his work abroad because that environment is still new to him and he has many colors to show to the rest of the world where he is not yet legend! _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/
RE: [arr] ARR picks his top reads for 2007
I'm not at all surprised to see ARR loves the iCon considering he is a mac man (WISE MAN!!) although Steve Jobs himself hated the unauthorized biography and asked Apple never to sell it in their stores. It does give a fascinating glimpse into Jobs' complex character though. He certainly did turn things around for Apple; and just thinking of a world ruled by Windows machines is repulsive enough for me to forgive Jobs' youthful eccentricities; the book says he is a changed man now. As for the second book, didn't Gandhi ji say, education without character is a social sin, and Einstein said imagination is more important than knowledge. When you combine education and knowledge, you get intelligence, when you combine character and imagination, you get intellect and wisdom. The fact remains that while education and knowledge can be nurtured or taught, character and imagination has a lot to do with nature or what we bring to this world, but as difficult as the task at hand may be, a great society and culture must always attempt to nurture the latter qualities with the former is what Time's two greatest men of the 20th century said. I can just say that ARR has certainly done his bit towards building this noble society, but when one great man tries to pull society in a positive direction, there are thousands pulling it in the other direction! Still, we must have hope. Hail ARR! Dasun To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 23:14:37 +0530 Subject: Re: [arr] ARR picks his top reads for 2007 Interesting.. On 12/22/07, Gopal Srinivasan _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007
RE: [arr] Meenaxi - Best arranged ARR album?
One of my top favorites. I listen to Do Qadam atleast once every other day - 'a beautiful tapestry of harmonic and melodic bliss' is indeed what it is. It is just perfect and makes the amazing poetry live. You can see the beauty of the 'doosre gaoon' when you listen to it. What else can you ask for from a song! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:53:39 +Subject: [arr] Meenaxi - Best arranged ARR album? Meenaxi the masterpiece. Do Qadam still sends me into a hypnoticstate. Every song is so unique and special. To Rahman, KYA BAAT HAIYAAR What an amazing piece of fine musical art you have createdwith this gem. The arrangements especially are so rich and finelyinterwoven to create a beautiful tapestry of harmonic and melodicbliss. To me, it's his best arranged record. All of his albums arewell arranged, but to me, this one stands out out the most. _ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_102007
Re: [arr] Top 5 ARR compositions that brings a lump to your throat / tears in your eyes
We've done this countless times, but this time I want to pick them based on a few levels on how his music reaches and appeals to me because there are many facets to ARR's magical output. Pardon me if this seems over-analytical, but I wanted to share these different aspects of the same emotions that I feel ARR brings to his music. This is, of course, very subjective. Secular Romance --- 1. Azhage Sugama (Parthale Parvasam) 2. Tum ho Meri Nigahoon (Kabhi na Kabhi) 3. Kannaku Mai Azhagu/Kalyon Se Palken (Pudhiya Mugam/Vishwa Vidhaata) 4. Anjali Anjali (Duet) 5. En Swaasa Kaatre (ESK) 6. Hai Na (Zubeidaa) 7. Thoda Thoda (Indira) Devotional Romance 1. Narumuggaye (iruvar) 2. Kismat Se Tum (Pukar) 3. Tere Bina (Guru) 4. Kannalane/Kehna hi Kya (Bombay) 5. Ishq Bina (Taal) 6. Ennavale (Kaadhalan) 7. Tu Hi Re (Bombay) The Dramatic -- 1. Veerapandi Kottayile (Thiruda Thiruda) 2. Raadha Kaise na Jale (Lagaan) Patriotic -- 1. Yeh Jo Des (Swades) 2. Desh ki Mitti (Bose: The Forgotten Hero) Feel Good - 1. Roobaroo (Rang De Basanti) 2. Yun Hi Chala Chal (Swades) 3. Uppu Karavadu (Mudhalvan) 4. Mitwa (Lagaan) Unbridled Passion - 1. Dil Se (Dil Se) 2. Satrangi Re (Dil Se) 3. Ramta Jogi (Taal) 4. Chayya Chayya (Dil Se) Innocence -- 1. Chinna Chinaa Asai/Dil Hain Chot aasa (Roja) 2. Door Kahin Ek (Zubeidaa) 3. Azhagu Nilave (Pavithra) 4. Goomparani (Bose: The Forgotten Hero) 5. Pennala Pennala (Uzhavan) 6. Kangalil Enna (Uzhavan) Sheer Perfection and The Divine --- 1. Chodo Meri Baiyyan (Zubeidaa) 2. Ae Ajnabi (Dil Se) 3. Uyirum Neeye (Pavithra) 4. Piya Ho (Water) 5. Do Qadam (Meenaxi) 6. Sarfarosh Ki Tamanna (Legend of Bhagath Singh) 7. Zikr (Bose: The Forgotten Hero) Hail ARR! Dasun From: ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] Top 5 ARR compositions that brings a lump to your throat / tears in your eyes Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 05:16:35 -0700 (PDT) I think, all ARR songs r so emotionally rich, one cud be easily moved by them. The blending of sound layers in each song along with the brilliance of singers choice to top it all, the amazing chords...its a complete package..its the perfect music. acc 2 me, 5 prime choices wud be: 1. Naina neer (Water)...my eyes get wet everytime i hear it! 2. Lukka chhupi (RDB)...best mother-son song.very emotional! 3. Azhage sugama (PP)...my all-time fav romantic song! 4. Ennatha ponnatha (Uzhavan)...most under-rated ARR song...brilliantly sung by Yesudas. 5. Ishwar Allah (1947 Earth)...xclnt lyrics with sheer magical music. There r many more... swaps rahul birhade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top 5 ARR compositions that brings a lump to your throat / tears in your eyes as to me are. actually all the compositions are gr8 but these are too much. 1) maula from mangal pandey 2) bombay theme from bombay 3) ae mere watan ke log from album Gurus of peace 4) mere yaar milade from sathiya 5) yenna solla pogirai from kandukondain kandukondain - Once upon a time there was 1 GB storage in your inbox. Click here for happy ending. - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. _ Now you can see trouble before he arrives http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507 Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [arr] Re: The making of the PFMB video
I don't think PFMB is completely hip-hop. However, even if you take the section of the song that is rapped, it is not the social stigma associated with rap that we need to look at, but the message. I mean, I agree with you that a message like this conveyed through purely a rap medium (which is not the case here), may have lost the majority of its intended audience even if the message was good, but ironically, rap as a medium of art originated out of the need to express a sense of helplessness and frustration of poverty, and the situation of World Poverty is just the same problem with greater magnitude and therefore not too far from the origins of rap. So, in that sense I don't think ARR erred in his judgement in using rap. Then, I think the fact that the intended audience that he is trying to influence, which would be the younger generation who will be leaders of the future world, are currently listening to hip-hop as the main source of popular art, would have been a key factor as well. Now I do not advocate the messages with which hip-hop music has become synonymous these days, but I do understand, that more than what the lyrics and the message of this hip-hop songs communicate, it is the rythm of hip-hop songs that infect and draw people to it. So, we should not dismiss a medium of art, just because it is associated with thugs and rowdy men who have little civility, because those are not attributes of the form itself, but its content. If an artist can use a form's ability to infect people to pass on a good message, then more strength to that artist for leading the way for others to follow. I still think of No Problem from Love Birds (1996) as a prime example of how rap and reggae was used to empower an audience. That's a great message right there. Another Day in Paradise is truly an al time great song with great feeling in the league of We Are the World and Heal the World, but that was created with an 80s feeling, but since this is the 00s, I think ARR is just following the trends just like PC did in 1989. I have great respect for Rano's taste and thoughts. Just wanted to share my view. Regards, Dasun From: Ranojoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: The making of the PFMB video Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:35:50 - The benchmark for poverty videos is Another Day in Paradise by Phil Collins.. (newbies do search Youtube) Serious stuff. Similar, (tainted) BLACK AND WHITE video. But the song and the lyrics are much better in PC's case (it's only one of the best songs of all time). Without getting into semantics, or lyrical value, the hip-hop/rap attitude in PFMB unfortunately does not fully capture the seriousness of the project and leaves me confused about who the intended audience is. Just stating an opinion. Something like Oh! Bosnia! would have been more apt in my opinion. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those who didn't get the concept of the video and those who are wondering why ARR was wearing those rather uncharacteristic dark shades, get the PFMB DVD and watch the making of the video feature. _ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN® Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102tcode=T001MSN20A0701 Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [arr] Senior reporter warns A.R. Rahman
Only a handful of people, if that, can remix a song with respect to the original and even improving on the original. As long as it is done within the rules of law and more, importantly, it is done tastefully, I see absolutely nothing wrong with remixing an old song to make it presentable to the younger generation. Thottal Poo Malarum was an incredible remix in my opinion. If you get a chance listen to the American Jazz/Rock group Steely Dan's cover of Duke Ellington's instrumental composition 'East St. Louis Toodle-oo,' now that's an unbelievable improvement on the original. Gives me goosebumps everytime I listen to that Wah-Wah guitar!! That is a different kind of music from ARR, but it's genius all the same! From: prakash_raptors [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Senior reporter warns A.R. Rahman Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:57:08 - http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news/jan-07-03/18-01-07-a-r-rahman.html I dun understand why is he getting irritated that ARR remixed the old song? Isn't that a window to acknowledge old songs the younger generations? In fact what did ARR do to deserve this warning? Did he remixed the song in such an insulting way? No..he just breath life into it..It's just like repainting an old building..The building will be the same, only the paint is new.. I hope people would really understand the meaning of remix..Not just any silly disco remixes with beats and scratches.. Wat ARR did was very melodious, and I'm proud that it became a trendstter for the Tamil Music Industry... Regards, Prakash _ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Uyirum Neeye - ARR's Attempt at the Creation of Mother?
Hey guys, I just wanted to share this awesome experience about one of my all-time favorite songs. Some of you may have already felt this sense of jubilation, but I wanted to share my process of discovering the magnificence of this divinely inspired song. Rano, once in this forum, mentioned the beauty of the song Azhagu Nilave from Pavithra. In the process of going through Pavithra's songs on the iTunes Music Store to find Azhagu Nilave, I found Uyirum Neeye as well, in my opinion, easily the best song of the album; and I came to that conclusion with no knowledge of what the lyrics meant. It was a purely gut response to the scintillating music and Unnikrishnan's enviable voice. Unnikrishnan apparently won the 1995 National Award for Best Male Playback singer for his rendition of this song along with another incredible song - 'Ennavale' from Shankar's Kaadhalan; and Ennavale was his first film song? Unbelievable! Divine interventions aside, the music spoke of something special that I was so determined to discover, for I knew well by then, that there is something deeper than the notes and Raagas which ARR tries to convey through his music and the intuitive discovery of that, as is well known, takes time, but the intellectual discovery, for the crazy Rahmaniac who yearns to dive the depths of his imagination, takes even longer. I must have posted a couple of requests on this forum begging for a translation of the song, but did not get one for a while. Then on 6/3/06, one of our members here posted the translation. I usually write down the date and source when I make a copy of anything, but unfortunately, in this instance, I forgot to write down the name of the member who posted it; so my apologies for not crediting the source. Please do let me know your name if you see this message. After I read the lyrics, my wonderment of this song reached new heights. It is a given that the poetry by Vairamuthu is in a class of it's own. Wikipedia states Pavithra and Karuthamma (both with ARR music) fetched him the National Award for Best Lyrics in 95 as well (I dont care much for Filmfare Awards, but a National Award carries merit!). What the lyrics expressed was obvious. It was a grand tribute to a mother; but, the music was not the usual music you hear in a typical son-to-mother song. So, I listened carefully to what the music was trying to say for the longest time. Usually, most music directors will get the inspiration for the song from the first verse (mukhda); so I focused on the mukhda and how ARR might have thought about capturing this in the music. Uyirum neeye, udalum neeye, uravum neeye...thaaye (II) Thun udalil sumandhu, uyirai pagirndhu, uruvam tharuvaai neeye (II) Un kaNNil vazhiyum oru thuLi podhum, Kadalum urugum thaaye (II) Un kaaladi mattum tharuvai thaaye, Sorgam enbadhum poyye * source = http://www.geocities.com/promiserani/tamil/t1036.html My life, My body, My binding...my Mother (II) Bearing me in your self, bestowing your life to me, and embodying me (II) A single tear drop from your eyes and oceans drown (II) Gift me your feet and the heavens seem a lie. * source = member of this group First I thought the guitar introduction was inspired by the phrase, a single tear drop from your eyes, as the first two notes of the bended B and the F# feels like a drop of tear as it escapes the corner of a mothers eye and lands to drown an ocean; and that phrase does bring out a beautiful change in line 3 of the mukhda as well. I wish I can give you a musical analysis of this, but my knowledge of Raagas is almost non-existent. I know the song is based on Raag Kamas. If someone can provide that, it will be awesome and I would be very grateful! Im trying to analyze the music with my knowledge of western music, which might not be the best way to approach the musical analysis, but it will be interesting to see the results. Ill share it when I have it ready. I kept thinking about the teardrop inspiration, but the flamenco-influenced, but Carnatic-flavored guitar solos (does anybody know who plays the guitar solos in this song?) interspersed with the Saraswathi Veena (is that correct?) were too mesmerizing to be inspired by only a teardrop. I have not yet seen the movie - Pavithra, so I dont know how this song had been picturised. Sometimes the picturization can offer hints about how the music was inspired. So, I stuck with the lyrics and moved on to the second verse (anthra). PeNNai padaithaan, maNNai padaitthaan Katrum, mazhaiyum, oliyum padaitthaan (II) Boomikku adhanaal nimmadhi illai (II) Sami thavitthan Sami thavitthan thaayai padaitthan He created the skies, He created the sands, The winds, the rains, the light, He created, Yet, peace reigns not on Earth, He struggled in anguish He struggled in anguish and created Mother This anthra is as powerful lyrically as the mukhda with a magic touch added with the pause and the single F# on guitar
Re: [arr] YouTube video group
That's good. Well, I struggled sometime back (prob in mid 2001 or so) to find a CD that had all the songs of ESK, but I never found it. Found partial albums which were combined with other movies so I gave up in frustration. Maybe I didn't look hard enough and also didn't look in the right places. Do you know a website where the full album is still available? From: Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] YouTube video group Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 08:32:57 - What do you mean by that? En Swaasa Katrae has six songs and the soudntrack had all of them when it released - i. Oru Thuli 2. Theendai 3. En Swaasa Katrae 4. Jumbalakka 5. Thirakadha 6. Nayagara --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very cool, Gops. Thanks for putting this together in one place! For the first time I got to see En Swasa Kaatre songs on video. These songs are brilliant that it is a shame they go unnoticed! Chinna Chinna (Oru Thuli) - don't have this song on my iTunes library, so had not heard it for so long! I had forgotten about it almost...now I realize how cool that song is. Does anybody know if this album ever come out with its full list of songs? From: Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] YouTube video group Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:35:44 -0700 (PDT) I have created a group on YouTube to collate links to all ARR videos posted there. This will enable one-stop access to the presently scattered videos. The group can be accessed at http://www.youtube.com/group/arrahmanfans Anyone can add links to ARR videos on YouTube by signing up on YouTube and obtaining membership to the group. I have added links about 55 videos that I found. If I have missed any please add links to them or notify me. Please note that the videos and their properties/description would remain editable only by their respective owners/users. The group only links to these videos. Gopal. I live in the world's largest constitutional anarchy. Its called India. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Christian music artists New music artists Country music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] Translation - Uyirum neeye - can anyone help please ??????
Thanks a bunchmy love of this song just multi-folded. There's something about songs with themes of God where ARR just comes up with unbelievably expressive tunes. Ishq bina is another that comes to my mind that stunned me...especially Sonu's part at the end. What is impressive is how he captures the true meaning of a phrase in the context of a song...whether it be 'a single tear drop from your eyes...' from Uyirum Neeye' or 'yeh koyi sanam ya aap khuda' from Ishq bina. That is what takes these songs beyond the realms of mediocrity that is out there and that is why he is a class apart! Hail ARR! Dasun From: Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] Translation - Uyirum neeye - can anyone help please ?? Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 03:51:20 +0100 (BST) Thank you. that one also is a good translation. Rahmania [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:My life, My body, My binding...my Mother, Bearing me in your self, bestowing your life to me and embodying me, A single tear drop from your eyes and oceans drown, Gift me your feet and the heavens seem a lie. He created the skies, He created the sands, The winds, the rains, the light, He created, Yet, peace reigns not on Earth, He struggled in anguish, and created...Mother found this here ... http://stolenimpressions.blogspot.com/2005/07/uyirum-neeye-from-pavithra.html Thanks Swapna Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent an email earlier but i guess didnt get noticed. so, sending it again.. can anyone please translate the lyrics of Uyirum Neeye, its sung by Unnikrishnan. Uyirum neeye, udalum neeye something like that. i know a few words in tamil but not good enough to understand the poetry a help will be highly appreciated. thanks and regards Roshan - Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new Click here Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! Messenger Download now Regards, Sooraj Swapna Rahmania ... the ultimate fan station www.rahmania.net - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Country music artists Christian music artists New music artists Unsigned music artist - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group arrahmanfans on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - If a music artist wants to blossom into a full-pledged person, it's not enough if he knows only classical music; nor is it enough if he's well-versed only in ragas and techniques. Instead, he should be a knowledgeable person interested in life and philosophy. In his personal life there should be, at least in some corner of his heart, a tinge of lingering sorrow. - AR Rahman Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile.yahoo.com/new/messenger/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [arr] Re: Bappi Lahiri sings title song in Guru
I thought Yaaraana (and Choo kar) was by Rajesh Roshan. When you say composed, do you mean lyrics and music both? If you are talking about the one and only Rabindranath Tagore, this is very interesting news to me. Never knew the great man had any hand in Indian Cinema! Regards, Dasun From: Ranojoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: Bappi Lahiri sings title song in Guru Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:52:12 - chhookar mere man ko is composed by Rabindranath Tagore.. Anyway, maybe people are not so sure about his accent-- and well, his past record in singing.. but Bappi IS, in a big way, 80s indian (read: disco) music.. By the way, I think his name used to be Bapi Lahiri.. Went to Bangur School in Tollygunge, Calcutta.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ricky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talk about overflowing pessimism :) Apparently, music is now appreciated more on what is the name of the singer, rather than how the song is made and sung! To make pre-judgements about anything is obviously going to bias your overall appreciation of anything. As its said, don't judge a book by its cover! FYI, as previously stated, Bappi Lahari is a very talented individual. Melodious numbers from Manzilen apni jagah hai (Sharaabi) to Pag Ghungroo band (Namak Halal) to Chalte Chalte (title) to Chookar mere man ko (Yaarana) -- all are touching melodies that will last forever! Do you really question the judgement of Rahman in chosing Bappi? -Ricky --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla aakarsh_vk@ wrote: This is one of teh biggest disappointments that rahman gave me.Ofcourse, i might change my opinion if the song is good..otherwise..i am disappointed. Regards Aakarsh. Anish raahul001@ wrote: Actually, Bappi was a trendsetter and highly talented compose and singer. You will understand if you compare that generation (80's and 90's) music and his level of composition, perfection in mixing and his singing style. Bappi is extremely talented. Only thing is that, he got sunk by some of the bollywood lobby's. Singing with rahman, be it the worst singer in the world. Rahman will bring the best out of them. Or else he will not take them. And Bappi is one of the biggest trend setters in Indian cinema. Who's music will live forever. Remember, ViVA sang for Rahman... What more??? - Anish || V i s h w e s h || Vishwsant@ wrote: Well, if this is the surprise, then it's surely a huge surprise but [no offense] its kinda weird surprise for me!! and somewhat unpleasant!! I apologize if I've hurt any of the buppi fans out there. But one thing is for sure that I'm very very curious to hear this track!!! govindh_k govindh_k@ wrote: Thats a real surprise..is that what Vijay Iyer meant as a big surprise in the mail?..let's see. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ wrote: http://www.mumbaimirror.com/nmirror/mmpaper.asp? sectid=10articleid=52420062238142185242006223751281 Bappida sings for Rahman The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - - Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group arrahmanfans on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Search movie info and celeb profiles and photos. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - Search movie info and celeb profiles and photos. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: admin@ To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Country music artists Christian music artists New music artists New country music artists Unsigned music artist - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group arrahmanfans on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
[arr] Dayton, Ohio - Wake up! Benefit Concert Review
This is a quite lengthy and a little delayed, but keeping my promise... Concert was held on 04/22/06. About five months ago, my friend, Guru, saw an article about ARR being in Ohio for a concert and had insisted that we go to watch. I wasn't quite sure what this was going to be and I had seen the Global Rhythms (GR) perform Chale Chalo at the East Michigan Univ. (EMU) concert in March 2003. On first impression, honestly, I thought they were horrible! It came on top of a rather disappointing concert as well since the sound balancing and organization was very poor despite the music being excellent. I had been to a Yanni 'Ethnicity' concert for the first time just two weeks ago and came out stunned at the quality of the production. Naturally, I had high expectations of the ARR concert and was bound to compare the two concerts of my two musical heros. Maybe that is a bit unfair since Yanni is a trained showman having done such huge undertakings as the Acropolis, Taj Mahal, and the Forbidden City, and Yanni focuses on so few projects compared to ARR giving full attention to his concerts when he is on tour. And ARR with his extremely busy schedule, I don't think can afford that kind of time for his tours. So, given all that past experience, I was not expecting much of this concert although there was no way I was going to miss an opportunity of seeing ARR on stage! However, when I read the EMU - 'Wake Up!' concert reviews, my perception changed significantly and I infact looked forward to seeing this concert. Guru and I met at a nearby restaurant and had some food before we headed to the James S Trent Arena. We thought since we had tickets, it won't be difficult to get in so we went a little late only to find a huge queue outside the entrance! Guru was saying 'dude, I've never seen this many desis at a concert!' We made it in eventually and took our seats, which were like benches with no seperators. We didn't quite get our seats as people were seated all over the place. The important thing was we got some seat and didn't have to get into a fight with anybody! The arena was getting full slowly but surely but we were way past the 7:30 PM starting time. The audience was getting impatient and started whisteling and screaming for the show to start. This probably went on for another 15 minutes before the show started. The stage was nicely lit up and arranged as the GR orchestra and the choir took their positions to a rousing cheer. The drummers started with the 'Beat of Passion' from Taal which led to a rendition of 'Ramta Jogi' from Taal as well. By the end of Ramta Jogi, my expectations were high as this was not the same GR team that made a mockery out of Chale Chalo 3 years ago! This was a team that must have practiced for months if not years to sing in a language totally alien to them with such energy and enthusiasm. We were told that they had worked with an Indian girl who helped translate the meanings of these songs to the GR team. They obviously knew the general meaning of the songs, which enabled them to express with great emotional impact. After that energetic introduction, a few people came on stage to speak about the purpose of the concert and how it came into being. Sad to say, some members of the audience (sadly not limited to a handful) was very rowdy and did not have the grace or patience to listen to the introductory comments; and they kept asking for ARR in a very rude way. There was the chief sponsor (Mr. ad Mrs. Joshi) and several others on stage taking their turns who must have been really embarrassed by the behavior of the crowd. Anyway, they finally welcomed ARR and the entire house gave him a standing ovation. It was clear that he too was embarrassed at parts of the crowd who showed no respect for the organizers and said 'we have 150 people on stage singing, so please corporate' or something to that effect. It was quite unlike ARR to be that tough on an audience, but it was very obvious that he felt bad about the crowd reaction. He sang Kalbhali with sheer power and very few mistakes I must say, probably he lost cues to some verses here and there but recovered soon enough. I love the last part where the sound drops off and he ends 'Ziddi Hum bhi Yahan.' I can't recall the exact sequence of songs, but the selections were mainly from: Rang De Basanti (5 - Khalbali, Rang De Basanti, Ik Onkaar, Roobaroo, Paatshaala) Taal (4 - Beat of Passion, Ramta Jogi, Taal se Taal (techno), Nahin Samne instrumental) Thiruda Thiruda (3 - Raasathi, Veerapandi Kottayile, Thee Thee) Bombay Dreams (2 - Bombay Awakes, Shakalaka Baby) Yuva (2 - Dhakka Lakka Bukka, Dol Dol) Dil Se (2 - Dil Se Re, Chaiyya Chaiyya) Bose The Forgotten Hero (1 Zikr) Alai Payuthey (1 - Yaaro Yaarodi) Lagaan (1 - Chale Chalo) Pudiya Mugham/Vishwavidhaata (1 - Kannakku Mai/Nazron ke mil ne se instrumental), Thakshak (1 - Rang De) Ragas dance (Vanessa Mae) Vande Mataram There
RE: [arr] Fw: A. R. Rehman Wake Up concert - A complete Disappointment!
Ok, this spectator obviously went in with the wrong expectations that he will see all his favorite Indian singers there. The concert was incredible, yes it had its faults and disappointments, but they were minor; it was an extremely proud moment for all Indians, and coming from Sri lanka, for I must say for all South Asians and Asians! I mean, has there been an Asian composer who has crossed over to the mainstream (and I want to highlight mainstream since we have classical artists who have been able to reach a western audience with great success before) western audience before like this? I know this is just the beginning. I will write my review and send it today since I have the day off. Hail ARR! Dasun From: Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Fw: A. R. Rehman Wake Up concert - A complete Disappointment! Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 20:31:48 -0700 (PDT) - Forwarded Message http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.indian.misc/browse_thread/thread/fd9ca16f2971f799/ef2dec9f830931e4#ef2dec9f830931e4 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Country music artists New music artists Christian music artists New country music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [arr] Re: My rendition of UYIRUM NEEYE - comments please...
Hey Vijay! I agree with Samarth, totally. Incredible!!..I thought nobody could sing that song like Unnikrishnan, especially without backup music! Such a difficult song to sing. Well, you have proved me wrong, you have given back music with your voice's resonance. You deserve a chance with the boss. Excellent voice! Congratulations! :) Regards and best wishes, Dasun From: samarth_rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: My rendition of UYIRUM NEEYE - comments please... Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 04:53:54 - Hi Vijay, My god man, you have one of the most amazing young voices I have ever heard!! you have the unique combination of Unnikrishnan's and Naresh Iyer's voice, and that is a deadly combination... You should be singing for films man...you are too good a talent to go unnoticed...if you ask me, I would send this to ARR or a close associate of ARR as soon as possible...you have to be discovered. Amazing voice, superb singing, and the best of luck to you. You have a great future. Regards, Samarth Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] Re: anyone coming for a r rahman show in dayton?
Hi guys, I'll be going to the Dayton concert with a friend from Columbus, OH. Just got tickets this past weekend and will be seated in the A2 area. Going by the EMU concert reviews, this is going to be a blast and I'm really looking forward to seeing this. Regards, Dasun From: Matthew Islam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: anyone coming for a r rahman show in dayton? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Adding to what Rano said, from what I heard from AR, it seems he is having a relatively good time and feels that the fund raising was successful for the cause supported.and he is thankful to god for it.. -Matthew Islam Ranojoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A R says the concert is apparently sold out.. Please check before making plans.. The michigan concert drew in 3400 (full house).. A R R says he performed a song Maula along with Zikr? Also, he feels embarassed that the students were singing in tamil and hindi and a r r was forgetting his lines haha.. maybe a dvd is in order for dayton.. -Ranojoy --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ram Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Natesh, Am currently located at Hartford, Connecticut, USA. Will Love to join anyone to be there at Dayton, Ohio. Please e-mail me soon regarding details like place from where you start, mode of transport etc. Call me to my mobile if possible - 860-597-3491. Thanks, Ram Natesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: group, we are 3 guys going to a r rahman show in dayton ohio this weekend (april 22). If some people from this group are going/planning to join us email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you guys are going, make shure you email me. more people more fun! Thanks Natesh - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group arrahmanfans on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group arrahmanfans on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] Rahman interview in Sunday Mid-day - 'I'm yet to be paid for Mangal Pandey'
It is really disappointing when an article such as this include some fascintaing details about ARR and at the same time include this whole Bedi's story which is very unlikely of ARR sharing in public...I personally dismiss this entire article as baseless...just because I trust ARR's integrity in not making such matters public.. It is very unlike him. From: Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] Rahman interview in Sunday Mid-day - 'I'm yet to be paid for Mangal Pandey' Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:31:00 -0800 (PST) Uh-oh!!! Washing dirty linen in public is definitely Mid-day's style but I am surprised ARR opened up so much for public consumption. - Original Message From: Vinayakam Murugan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:30:56 AM Subject: [arr] Rahman interview in Sunday Mid-day - 'I'm yet to be paid for Mangal Pandey' He acknowledges the yahoo groups in this interview. :-) How do youcommunicate with your fans? There's a yahoo groupsfan base with over 8,000 fans and I keep track. http://ww1.mid-day.com/smd/play/2006/march/132817.htm SHOW ME THE MONEY: 85 per cent of Rahman's payment for The Rising is still due. Pic: Pradeep BandekarWe meetthe composer 16 floors above sea level at a suburban five-starhotel. A R Rahman is riding the Rang De Basanti wave as calmlyas he rode the massive flops: Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose: TheForgotten Hero and Mangal Pandey The Rising. There arethose times when the 'cool' musician chuckles like a littleboy, when we ask him about recording with LataMangeshkar. It was just an idea, he says, draggingthe last word with a south Indian twang, and shrugging hisshoulders until his neck disappears, I thought I would singalong with her like a son's reply to a mother's voice. That's as far as he would go to admit that Luka chuppi was an indulgence. But this time around, we thank Andrew LloydWeber for initiating the composer in the art of interaction.In Rahman's own words, a few years ago, after the success of Bombay Dreams, Andrew taught me that music is also about presentation, and I can't keep going into my shell. Our drilling session would have sure come up withblanks had we encountered the introvert that Rahman oncewas. You said you were tired of period films. I didn't say that. I said I was tired ofpeople slotting me; just because I did period films likeMangal Pandey people got the impression I wanted to retire andgo to AIR. It took four months to come up with thescore for Mangal Pandey. I'm yet to be paid for MangalPandey. I had to be patient enough for Rang DeBasanti's release, but knew that people were gettingimpatient. Most fans thought that I had turned into a deshbhakt with all the period films. How do youcommunicate with your fans? There's a yahoo groupsfan base with over 8,000 fans and I keep track. Let's talk Rang De Basanti It feelsvery good. In fact, that's another period film of sorts.Rakeysh and I coordinated with each other for four years forRang De Basanti. The only difference is that we got a newproducer, which was a huge leap. Rakeysh gave me fourscripts and said that he had another small idea, which turnedout to be the fifth script. I told him that this is yourmovie. It's not a cliché. I'd never heard somethinglike this before. I think people are lost today. Especiallythe younger generation. The film is almost like a coded message for the youth. How long did youtake to compose the score for this one? It's thequickest score I've ever written. The initial tracks which
RE: [arr] Re: A R RAHMANS INTERVIEW IN MUSICINDIAONLINE
I don't know if it is even worth the effort, but can you not sue these people for blatantly misquoting people or even worse, putting their words in other people's mouths!?! From: "Gopal Srinivasan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] Re: A R RAHMANS INTERVIEW IN MUSICINDIAONLINEDate: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:22:16 -The interview seems to be typical of Music India Online, fictitious,plagiarized and spiced up. This one is lifted from last week's RediffInterview.The Rediff interviewer's assertions have been converted to ARR'squotes here. Imagine ARR saying things like "This is a $26 millionmusical extravaganza."Read this http://in.rediff.com/movies/2006/jan/30rahman.htm--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "amit" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI FRIENDS JUST GO TO THIS LINK. http://www.musicindiaonline.com/ar/i/music_director/1288/3/general/5/Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comAdmin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]BGM fest and Potters contest From arsaregamaLog on to http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arsaregama SPONSORED LINKS Music artists Country music artists New music artists Christian music artists New country music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BGM fest and Potters contest From arsaregama Log on to http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arsaregama SPONSORED LINKS New music artists Music artists New country music artists Christian music artists Country music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [arr] En Swasa Katre......best slow song by ARR?
I'm totally with you, Ajitit is out of this worldI just wish I had the chance to picturize this songit is a movie by itself! Chitra stuns! I must have said this over and overbut this song needs a revival every now and then for those who are unfortunate to not know about it :) From: "Ajit" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] En Swasa Katre..best slow song by ARR?Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:06:40 -This song mesmerizes meit's so hauntingly beautiful..just mindblowingly exceptional..love the classical based endingveena and alaap..oh man.Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comAdmin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Music artists Christian music artists Country music artists New country music artists New music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [arr] few inside stories from Vasundara, Sivamani and Khailash Kher
This is so coolcan somebody please give me some insight into Boney Kapoor...so that I can understand that joke? Regards, Dasun From: Mirza Munas [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] few inside stories from Vasundara, Sivamani and Khailash KherDate: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:49:41 + (GMT)Enjoy!http://www.worldspaceasia.com/modules.php?name=WS_Homeart=readfeaturesid=292 ___ NEW Yahoo! Cars - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online! http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comAdmin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Country music artists Music artists Christian music artists New music artists New country music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] S.J Surya on A.R.Rahman **** Really Nice**** --- TRANSLATION
Wow! That gave me goosebumps..:) Thanks so much for translating...will eagerly wait for the next piece. From: Aravind a.m. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] S.J Surya on A.R.Rahman Really Nice --- TRANSLATION Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:36:27 -0800 (PST) Hi all, I have attempted to translate this for the benefit of our non-tamil friends: A.R.Rahman is a living legend. He never considers himself to be a genius. But, actually he is a super-genius.It takes time to actually meet him. So, we might get a different impression of him, before meeting him. But, once we go and meet him, we can understand him. If we meet him and know him, we will start feeling that we are nothing. Why should we lead a false life? Why cant we be true, like him. Even if our assistant says something to us, we wont feel like who is he to tell me. His popularity which started in Tamilnadu, has now spread throughout the world. For his Lord of the Rings play, a very famous singer who is touted as Chinese Madonna came down for recording, to ARR's studio in Subbaraya Nagar, Chennai. Music recording for Hollywood movies have been done here. Times have changed. People used to go to Hollywood to compose for tamil movies - but now, music for hollywood movies are composed here! This also shows the technological advancement... Hollywood is not something great...Rahman shows us that even we can reach that standard! The new studio that he has set up in Chennai is definitely up to hollywood standards. The re-recording for my movie NEW was done at Autograph Studio, London. This new ARR studio is better than Autograph studio in terms of technology and quality. It is God's boon to me that I get to work with him. For Ah Aah, he composed all songs in Kodaikkanal. We got the lyrics ready for Varugirai Thodugirai before Rahman started composing. He generally likes composing for pre-written lyrics. Even for Sakkarai Inikkira Sakkarai from NEW, the lyrics were written first by Vali and then Rahman composed the tune. Rahman changed few words in those lyrics to suit the tune. This shows his command over tamil language. The changes/additions he makes to lyrics are very sweet and poetic. These are all just a few examples of his brilliance. I sometimes wonder, why I shouldn't ask him to pen the lyrics for a song! Tamil consists of 3 basic elements - literature, music and acting. Though Rahman is an expert at the first two, he is very bad the the last one.. Yes.. This man can't act. He always portrays his true self. If we dont like a tune that he has composed, we need not hesitate or think too much - we can just speak to him openly about this. He'll say okay. i'll try... But, if he is very confident about the tune, he'll say no.. we'll go with this.. this will work... And, that one will definitely become a super-hit! The best example for this is thottal poo malarum song. Something really interesting happened... (contd...) The remaining portion of this will be available in the next issue of Kumudam. I will translate that too :) Regards, Aravind __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Know an art music fan? Make a donation in their honor this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/VwqHaC/.VHMAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [arr] ARR RECORDINGS AT LATE NIGHT
Damn that is great stuff to hearthank god we have you in our group man...how else would we get that kind of insight into a genius and his way of work! Thanks for sharing those bits and pieces. I'm gonna save this piece! I'll be sure to give you credit if I use it somewhere, Vij!! :) From: Vijay Iyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] ARR RECORDINGS AT LATE NIGHT Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:37:24 -0800 (PST) Hi, Typically, a r r's office calls up the artiste and the producer and informs them of the recording date and an approximate time. The producer's office then arranges for travel (air ticket) and stay for the artiste at Chennai. Once they are in Chennai, they co-ordinate with a r r's office to find out when theya re supposed to be at the studio and a studio vehicle is sent to fetch them from the hotel. There's Hotel Aditya just a stone's throw from a r r's place where most stay. (I was offered to be put up there too!!). Interestingly, a lot depends on a r r's mood at that time. The genius that he is, its quite possible that a new idea takes shape in his mind and he starts working on it making the artiste who came for the original track wait. I know of a female singer from Bombay who flew down to Chennai for a session and every evening when she would get ready to go the studio, she'd get a call saying its postponed since they were busy with another track. Finally on the 4th day, she sang her song. Kailash Kher went to Chennai at least 10 times just to sing 2 lines 'Mangal Mangal' in different styles and pitches. He had no clue of what was happening or what the song was since the lyrics and the rest of the song were not developed. Finally the 11the time, he sang the complete song in bits and pieces and didnt know wehre the Mangal Mangal part would fit inbut when he heard the final mix, he was zapped !! Thats the magic of a r r !!! Cheers Vij PB Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi we like to know unlike other MDs why the boss always records very late in the night causing inconvenience to others (technicians, instrumentalists singers). Though it is comfortable for him according to himself his own circle of pple, definitely it will not be comfortable for others whether it is gents or ladies as they have to compromise it like a shift night-duty in other offices. But they are compromising only for the skills of arr. Otherwise if it is any other MD they would turn down the offer of recording late in the night as disturbing their routine habits regular time-table may not be that easy. Why this happens and how a recording procedure begins ends, from composing tunes to calling the singers and the singers who come from outside chennai, how they make it, where they stay. will they spend a day or two for these recordings. Will there be a break (lunch break, snacks break at night or warming up) between recordings or at one go ? how this happens in case of other MDs? please guys who all know proper informations about these, post your knowledge and views. thanx, cheers wishes raam - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Country music artists New music artists Christian music artists New country music artists Music artists Unsigned music artist - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group arrahmanfans on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
RE: [arr] to Dasun Abeysekara (regarding Salil Chaudhary)
Yes, I am a big fan of Bollywood of yester-year...because what is being produced now has such little substance! Still, like you had correctly pointed out, I am a novice when it comes to Salil Chaudhary's music; but I have always thought that compared to Naushad, Shankar-Jaikishan, SDB, RDB and so on, he had done very little music, maybe just for artsy movies like Do Bheega Zamin and Devdas (Bimal Roy's), not to make light of these masterpieces of filmmaking. Well, I listened to Anand today a lot and I see what you are sayingthe songs are really, really captivating. Maine Tere Liye might be the 3rd in the list now for me after Kahin Door Job and Na Jiya Lage Na. I think RDB's music sound closer to Salilda's music in Anand, like RDB's Ane Wala Pal from Golmaal. Coming to Anbe from Rythm, I see it has heavy orchestration, counterpoint, and emotive changes like Salilda was known for, so in that sense I can draw parallels, but I still don't have a good idea of Salilda's sound to make any firm conclusions. Maybe after I explore some of the other movies and songs that you have suggested, I can bring this topic up again! :) I really appreciate all the information you have provided here. All I can ask these modern composers is 'what did you do with the great tradition od Indian melodies of these greats?' When people start focusing on commercial success, the first thing to disappear is quality artistic work. Thank God for ARR who is doing everything he can to bring back the wonderful tradition of melody. Take care, Dasun From: Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [arr] to Dasun Abeysekara (regarding Salil Chaudhary) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:53:41 -0800 (PST) to moderator and other members-- excuse me for digressing...and discussing other composer...i am doing so..because it will give a little understanding to others also..abt yesteryear composers who have, in some way or the other, influenced Rahman.. Hi! Dasun, I am glad that you appreciate the music given by the legends of yester-years...looks like you are complete novice when it comes to Salil Chaudhary's music...i hope the link i gave came to some use atleast. Anand is not just abt Maine Tere liye...try listening to kahi door jab din...what a fantastic melody it is..the mukhuda itself is enough to captivate the listener... or try na jiya lage na from same film..which is tuned in raag Bhageeswari. there are plenty of films of Salilda, in which he has displayed his mastery..like the prelude music for the song aaha rim jhim ke yeh from film usne kaha tha..it is not a normal brain which can conceive such wonderful stuff.. and regarding your query: The song from movie Rhythm is a complex composition...it also has many uthar-chadaos...i mean...u cannot sing that song casually..no straight lines..lot of ups and downs..and influence of western classical is evident..thats why i feel its like tribute to salilda...see the aalaaps in that song...its unusual... by uthar-chadaos..i mean ups-downs of notes..which strains singer/instrumentalist a lot..for eg: take the film choti si baatu have a song by mukesh yeh din kya aaye...listen carefully..yeh din is on higher notes while kya aaye is on lower notes...even when he finishes antharas..the ending is low-scale..and immediately connecting it to lines of mukhuda as yeh din..strains composers a lot.. example 2: film parakh..songoh sajna...follow the sitar notes...they are very tricky..with high scale immediately followed by low scale notes...if a instrumentalist himself finds it so complex..imagine the brain which composed such pieces..thats what Salilda was famous for. Aakarsh. my blog : www.musicmavericks.blogspot.com Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Aakarsh! Thanks a lot man, that blog spot is awesome! At a personal level, Naushad probably had the biggest influence on ARR as both are deeply spiritual men, thus their emphasis on strong melodies. Yesterday, I was listening to 'Hai Na' and felt certain similarities with the lovely 'Teri Husn ki' from Leader although I can't still pinpoint them at a detailed level. The more obvious ones are the introductions on the santoor (correct me if I'm wrong on the instrument). Coming to Chowdhury's music, I did see Anand once and liked 'Meine Tere Liye,' but did not know it was by him! Although Anand may not be in the same league as Madhumati, after buying the album just now (it's amazing what you can find on the iTunes Music Store!) and listening to the four songs, I can see they are definitely above par in melodic content. I will definitely check out the other movies you had noted as well. Couple of questions for you. 1. What made you attribute 'Anbe' from Rythm to Salilda's style? 2. Can you briefly describe the meaning of 'Uthar-Chadaos? Gopal, I tried to make
RE: [arr] to Dasun Abeysekara (regarding Salil Chaudhary)
Hi Aakarsh! Thanks a lot man, that blog spot is awesome! At a personal level, Naushad probably had the biggest influence on ARR as both are deeply spiritual men, thus their emphasis on strong melodies. Yesterday, I was listening to 'Hai Na' and felt certain similarities with the lovely 'Teri Husn ki' from Leader although I can't still pinpoint them at a detailed level. The more obvious ones are the introductions on the santoor (correct me if I'm wrong on the instrument). Coming to Chowdhury's music, I did see Anand once and liked 'Meine Tere Liye,' but did not know it was by him! Although Anand may not be in the same league as Madhumati, after buying the album just now (it's amazing what you can find on the iTunes Music Store!) and listening to the four songs, I can see they are definitely above par in melodic content. I will definitely check out the other movies you had noted as well. Couple of questions for you. 1. What made you attribute 'Anbe' from Rythm to Salilda's style? 2. Can you briefly describe the meaning of 'Uthar-Chadaos? Gopal, I tried to make this as 'ARRelevant' as possible since I think these discussions are very educational for us all, but feel free to give the 'take it outside!' command as necessary. :) Regards, Dasun From: Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [arr] to Dasun Abeysekara (regarding Salil Chaudhary) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 07:49:36 -0800 (PST) Hi! read your mail...the biggest surprise came to me when i read that Madhumati is the only album of Salil Chaudhary which you've heard. He was a super-genius who was ranked along the likes of S.D.Burman, Naushad , Madan Mohan and all.. His area of expertise was Western Classical plus Folk.Infact, Ilaiyaraaja worked with Salilda as a guitarist,which is why he too emulated similar ingredients. Salilda was the first composer,in india, who looked at Symphonies of the west..and understood the nuances which he adapted very well..by fusing indian folk into it.We can say that his music was also a kind of Fusion. he was a genius...his compositions were kinda complex..with lot of Uthar-Chadaos..infact...the number of simple compositions is very less...because most of his compositions used to baffle the instrumentalists...people in those times used to feel that he is a cut different from the rest because of his unique formula of symphony+folk+classical. Some fantastic albums of Salilda are here : http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/17/m/music_director.494/ try them...my picks would be Anand, Maya, Parakh, Rajnigandha, Choti Si baat, Chaya, etc.,. i know Rahman admires Salilda a lot...however, having heard many Salil-da songs, i can say that Rahman doesnt imbibe much of Salilda's style...he does..but not much..According to me Rahman is (more) heavily inspired by Naushad...and sometimes, both the Burmans..and at times even Ilaiyaraaja...he himself admits it..The Salil-da ingredient is very less..but yet, if you take a song like Skysong from Rhythm..it is his tribute to Salil-da. Regards Aakarsh. ( www.musicmavericks.blogspot.com ) Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you so much for this link! I have always been blown over by the Music of Madhumati, eversince I saw the movie (one of my first in Hindi along with Abhimaan) as a 9 or 10 year old. I still remember falling in love with the beauty of Vaijyanthimala, so this movie has a special meaning for me too! Coming back to the music of Salil Chouwdhury, it is a class apart in this movie, his versatality shows through the incredible variety of styles he composes in this album. From the lyrical ballad Dil Tadap, to the lovely Zulmi Sanga Aankh Ladi, to the heartwrenching Toote Hue Khwabon, to the comical Jungle Mein, and the opening Aja Re Paradesi, which always gave me the impression that both Mani Ratnam and ARR had this song in mind for Roja's opening chinna chinna Asai, just a hunch. Anyway, truly a masterpiece by all means. Unfortunately, that is the only Salil Chouwdhury album I currently have or heard, well I have the old Devdas DVD, but that does not have many songs. Looks like he was Bimal Roy's favorite, that should speak enough of his genius! I like these topics...we should branch out once in a while and discuss the old greats of Indian music, who undoubtedly have influenced ARR in many ways. From: Manoj Mohan C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: ARR Fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] [semi-ARR] ARR mentioned in tribute to Salil Da Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:37:27 +0530 ...Music directors from Shankar-Jaikishen to A.R. Rahman have been struck by Salil da's felicity in matching orchestration with emotions..The skilful use of obligato, the counter melody flowing around the main melody, is an unfailing attraction of his music.Both
RE: [arr] [semi-ARR] ARR mentioned in tribute to Salil Da
Thank you so much for this link! I have always been blown over by the Music of Madhumati, eversince I saw the movie (one of my first in Hindi along with Abhimaan) as a 9 or 10 year old. I still remember falling in love with the beauty of Vaijyanthimala, so this movie has a special meaning for me too! Coming back to the music of Salil Chouwdhury, it is a class apart in this movie, his versatality shows through the incredible variety of styles he composes in this album. From the lyrical ballad Dil Tadap, to the lovely Zulmi Sanga Aankh Ladi, to the heartwrenching Toote Hue Khwabon, to the comical Jungle Mein, and the opening Aja Re Paradesi, which always gave me the impression that both Mani Ratnam and ARR had this song in mind for Roja's opening chinna chinna Asai, just a hunch. Anyway, truly a masterpiece by all means. Unfortunately, that is the only Salil Chouwdhury album I currently have or heard, well I have the old Devdas DVD, but that does not have many songs. Looks like he was Bimal Roy's favorite, that should speak enough of his genius! I like these topics...we should branch out once in a while and discuss the old greats of Indian music, who undoubtedly have influenced ARR in many ways. From: Manoj Mohan C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: ARR Fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] [semi-ARR] ARR mentioned in tribute to Salil Da Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:37:27 +0530 ...Music directors from Shankar-Jaikishen to A.R. Rahman have been struck by Salil da's felicity in matching orchestration with emotions..The skilful use of obligato, the counter melody flowing around the main melody, is an unfailing attraction of his music.Both Ilayaraja and A.R. Rahman followed the path charted by him. Ilayaraja was introduced to the film industry as guitarist and combo organ player in Salil da's recordings and his influence on Ilayaraja is evident. R.K. Sekhar, Rahman's father, worked with Salil da as an assistant. Rahman himself testifies that attending Salil da's recording sessions at a young age left an indelible impression on him. http://www.hindu.com/mag/2005/11/20/stories/2005112000340500.htm Manoj Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [arr] GUYZZ u know what!!!
I wish I could understand Tamil like I do Hindi, but I'm far from that still, although I'm learning as much as I can. There are a lot of similarities between Tamil and my mother-tonguee, Sinhalese, but I'd say not as many as there are between Hindi and Sinhalese. Nevertheless, I try my best to grab a few words here and there everyday to improve my Tamil vocabulary. I think Tamil poets are amazing, and I only know a handful like Bharthiyar, Vaali, and Vairamuthu. There's so much to learn :) From: Mirza Munas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [arr] GUYZZ u know what!!! Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:43:06 + (GMT) Didn't ARR make that title track into a song in another Prashanth's movie.. the track goes like Thom Karuvil Irinthom sung by Shankar Mahadevan... Dasun Abeysekera.. since when did you can understand tamil? Rgds, Mirza. --- Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! That is an awesome bgm piece, I only have it on the dvd. Where did you get that track? I have tried to find a cd containing it, but no luck so far. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Take care, Dasun From: KARY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: rahman arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] GUYZZ u know what!!! Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 06:10:27 -0800 (PST) GUYZZ u know what!!! I had chat freind in austria..i sent him the track from JEANS...thats NI SA RI SA...title song of JEANS...he said it wazz a better than TITANIC title...OH GOD am i was so proud...is'nt that great...it seemzz he also passed to his griendzzz n had a comment similar... any wayzz guyzz its not new to us REHMAN THE GURU...ROCKZZ.. Breath ARR... BRAINTURL(KARTHIK) - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ WIN ONE OF THREE YAHOO! VESPAS - Enter now! - http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/features/competitions/vespa.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [arr] GUYZZ u know what!!!
Hi! That is an awesome bgm piece, I only have it on the dvd. Where did you get that track? I have tried to find a cd containing it, but no luck so far. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Take care, Dasun From: KARY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: rahman arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] GUYZZ u know what!!! Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 06:10:27 -0800 (PST) GUYZZ u know what!!! I had chat freind in austria..i sent him the track from JEANS...thats NI SA RI SA...title song of JEANS...he said it wazz a better than TITANIC title...OH GOD am i was so proud...is'nt that great...it seemzz he also passed to his griendzzz n had a comment similar... any wayzz guyzz its not new to us REHMAN THE GURU...ROCKZZ.. Breath ARR... BRAINTURL(KARTHIK) - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [arr] Iruvar - Best Mani+ARR Film
Incredibly moving film...for the longest time, I was dieing to get hold of a DVD of this without much success, just because I loved Narumugaye so much and knew that it had to be a great story to inspire such a song, both lyrically and musically. When I saw the movie, I was literally floored...there's a sense of void when you watch this movie, because you know the friends want to be together but are being pulled apart by the forces of society and their roles in it! ARRs bgm is stunning...especially the guitar themeawesome stuff! Hail ARR! Dasun BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1 From: iquot;dkraks2002quot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/ibrReply-To: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrTo: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrSubject: i[arr] Iruvar - Best Mani+ARR Film/ibrDate: iTue, 15 Nov 2005 10:50:42 -/ibr brhtmlbody tt I had the privilage of watching Iruvar yesterday.br br Iruvar is 'hands down' the best Maniratnam film for which ARR has br given music.br br Mohan Lal amp; Prakash Raj have won accolades (deservedly) for their br performance, but I was particularly impressed by Aishwarya amp; Nasser br (perhaps I was not expecting much from them).br br br br br br br br /tt brbr tt Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.br Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.br br Homepage: a href=http://www.arrahmanfans.com;http://www.arrahmanfans.com/abr Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br br /tt brbr br div style=text-align:center;color:#909090;width:500px hr style=border-bottom:1px;width:500px;text-align:left ttYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS/tt /div br ul ttli type=square Visit your group quot;a href=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans;arrahmanfans/aquot; on the web.br /tt ttli type=square To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:br a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/abr /tt ttli type=square Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the a href=http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/;Yahoo! Terms of Service/a./tt /ul br div style=text-align:center;color:#909090;width:500px hr style=border-bottom:1px;width:500px;text-align:left /div /br /body/html br/font/BLOCKQUOTE Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [arr] Unearthed some GEMS
Agree completely, Ajit. I haven't heard enough discussions about the ESK title song, which is one of my favorites, Chitra's voice just melts my heart ...it's so beautiful, with the electric piano giving the effect of a man breathing in and out while watching a mystical beauty. Haven't seen the movie, but this is what I felt the song is trying to say. Ale Ale from Boyz is another gem...Karthik's voice is amazing and as many had pointed out how ARR uses the chorus and Chitra (can't be the same Chitra who sings ESK title, correct?) to sing counterpoint is very unique...nothing western about that counterpoint. Virtually two melodies running in parrallel, but works amazingly well. I still haven't heard the E18U20 songs, so cannot comment on them. Hail ARR! Dasun BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1 From: iquot;Ajitquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/ibrReply-To: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrTo: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrSubject: i[arr] Unearthed some GEMS/ibrDate: iSat, 22 Oct 2005 17:16:03 -/ibr brhtmlbody tt I've been paying more attention to Rahman's Tamil songs recently and I br re-discovered three recent songs that didn't hit me before, but for br some reason, are totally into me now. They are quot;Ale Alequot; from br Boys, quot;En Swasa Katrequot; the title song, and quot;Yedho Yedhoquot; from Ennaku br 20...Unnaku 18. Simply classic. I realize that I there are some br songs of Rahman's I should revisit br br I need to get back to digging...br br br br br br /tt brbr tt Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.br Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.br br Homepage: a href=http://www.arrahmanfans.com;http://www.arrahmanfans.com/abr Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br br /tt brbr brbr div style=width:500px;text-align:right;margin-bottom:1px;color:#909090 ttSPONSORED LINKS/tt /div table bgcolor=#e0ecee cellspacing=13 cellpadding=0 width=500px tr valign=top td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Christian+music+artistsamp;w1=Christian+music+artistsamp;w2=Country+music+artistsamp;w3=Music+artistsamp;w4=New+country+music+artistsamp;w5=New+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=yAjQ9wCyMiH76eDZEWBXiA;Christian music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Country+music+artistsamp;w1=Christian+music+artistsamp;w2=Country+music+artistsamp;w3=Music+artistsamp;w4=New+country+music+artistsamp;w5=New+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=RNFxLcmerZSRzZ_Vpg47pA;Country music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Music+artistsamp;w1=Christian+music+artistsamp;w2=Country+music+artistsamp;w3=Music+artistsamp;w4=New+country+music+artistsamp;w5=New+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=8sojPpcaqsXpA7MMzGqypA;Music artists/a/tt /td /tr tr valign=top td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=New+country+music+artistsamp;w1=Christian+music+artistsamp;w2=Country+music+artistsamp;w3=Music+artistsamp;w4=New+country+music+artistsamp;w5=New+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=15Py4X_CUR9SpT6oFHj9Iw;New country music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=New+music+artistsamp;w1=Christian+music+artistsamp;w2=Country+music+artistsamp;w3=Music+artistsamp;w4=New+country+music+artistsamp;w5=New+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=e30IRNPMIZRQ6gTBXzWqUg;New music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Unsigned+music+artistamp;w1=Christian+music+artistsamp;w2=Country+music+artistsamp;w3=Music+artistsamp;w4=New+country+music+artistsamp;w5=New+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=jMs0PiiS_uz8vQ6Ro81GXg;Unsigned music artist/a/tt /td /tr /tr /table br div style=text-align:center;color:#909090;width:500px hr style=border-bottom:1px;width:500px;text-align:left ttYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS/tt /div br ul ttli type=square Visit your group quot;a href=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans;arrahmanfans/aquot; on the web.br /tt ttli type=square To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:br a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/abr /tt ttli type=square Your use of Yahoo! Groups is
Re: [arr] Between Heaven and Earth Review
Dheemi Dheemi...ok here's what I see and feelfreshness in the air, early morning dawn, chilly and misty, of course birds chirping...add two in love and it's enough to make a nice music video. :) Looking forward to your poem. BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1 From: iGajanan Balasubramaniam lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/ibrReply-To: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrTo: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrSubject: iRe: [arr] Between Heaven and Earth Review/ibrDate: iSun, 23 Oct 2005 17:28:36 +0530/ibr brhtmlbody some days back after the concert, i was listening to the WOHE album and i had written this to my friend.br br br well... i have to sheepishly admit that i never listened to quot;warriors of heaven and earthquot; soundtrack well enough.. br all this time. i always considered ARR a genius. but this album seems to elevate him far beyond that quot;geniusquot; status as well... i dont know.. i m just speechless. to have been able to compose this kind of music that is so much intune with native chinese musical traditions... that really gives us an image of china and mongolia... is above brilliance, intelligence and genius... i dont know what to call him now...br br an quot;elementaryquot; reproduction of feelings that i had when listening to the album br br quot;blue lightquot; - ethereal as the name suggests... same chorus towards the end as that of quot;horsesquot;br quot;buddhas remainsquot; -- it makes you feel a great awakening inside you.. fills you with a feeling like the soul being stirred... maybe fill with buddha's spirit!br quot;horsesquot; - awesome chorus, i just kept on listening to it on a forever loopbr quot;lai chi themequot; gives a huge power surge deep inside..br quot;monkquot; - close ur eyes... and u would really see monks sitting atop rocky ledges and meditating in the thin mountain air.. reminds me of a NatGeo program about Monastries of Wudang Mountainbr quot;escapequot; -- makes you imagine people really running away, hiding from prying eyes, just managing things in the nick of time.. u know.. all the fast camera stuff!br quot;mountainsquot; -- if i had been listening to this song while driving up into the shenandoah (mountains in virginia state), the songs would have absolutely fit the occasionbr quot;dacoit duelquot; -- i m spellbound.. i can really see 2 men baying for each other's blood, measuring each others paces and making lethal advances br br amp; now.. which one of these was the theme song? and what is the song ordering... i would like to listen to these songs in proper sequence.. i think quot;blue lightquot; precedes quot;horsesquot; because of the tune match. i might be wrong... br br i kinda didnt appreciate that jolin tsai's song. considering the above, this pop song faded below my recognition and so was that quot;lords...quot; song.br br br I wonder how Roger Hall wrote that review. Maybe he is a good reviewer for western sounds. Unfortunately, he seems to be prejudiced towards that half of the world alone. I somehow felt that he exhitbited more of contempt than respect. Had he really delved deeper into sounds and the space that they provided and the relation of the songs to the movie, I do not think he would have written such an insensitive review. Take nothing... just sample the quot;Monkquot; song. If you have seen the program on monks at Wudang Mountains telecast on Nat Geo channel, you will fully agree how well the song picturises monks meditating upon various truths of life. br br There is another one such song by Yanni called quot;After The Sunrisequot;. Great visual appeal. Close your eyes and you can really imagine the sun rising from the horizon and casting its golden rays upon the land. I remember the quot;monkquot; song and the above song in the same breath. Both were instrumental. For vocal, take quot;Dheemi Dheemiquot; sung by Hariharan in the movie quot;1947 Earthquot;. ARR is the MD for that movie. Close your eyes and listen to this song, and tell me what it reminds you of. Infact I was so inspired by the song that I wrote a poem on what I felt after listening to this song. Maybe I would share it some other timebr br - Gbr br brbr tt Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.br Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.br br Homepage: a href=http://www.arrahmanfans.com;http://www.arrahmanfans.com/abr Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br br /tt brbr brbr div style=width:500px;text-align:right;margin-bottom:1px;color:#909090 ttSPONSORED LINKS/tt /div table bgcolor=#e0ecee cellspacing=13 cellpadding=0 width=500px tr valign=top td style=width:25% tta
RE: [arr] Gift to ARR
BRAVO, guys! My heartfelt thanks to Vineet, Gops and everybody who take our passion for the man and his music with such quality work. Hats off to you all. Hail ARR! Dasun BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1 From: iGopal Srinivasan lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/ibrReply-To: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrTo: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrSubject: i[arr] Gift to ARR/ibrDate: iSat, 8 Oct 2005 20:14:09 -0700 (PDT)/ibr brhtmlbody tt The group gifted a montage to ARR which recreated his face with inlay card images of everybr single one of his 94 Original/Remade/Reused and Non-film releases with the following text:br br Aankhon Ki Pyaas Hai, Is Dil Ki Aas Hai, Inki Talaash Haibr ONLY YOUbr From Roja to Ah Aah and Beyondbr Forever with youbr arrahmanfansbr br br The fantastic work was was designed by Vinit of our group.br br ARR with the Montagebr a href=http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/50654741/http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/50654741//abr br The original montage imagebr a href=http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/50655859/http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/50655859//abr br A big round of applause for Vinit for the fantastic work please...br br quot;We neglect our cities at our peril. For, in neglecting them, we neglect the nation.quot;br -John F. Kennedybr br br /tt brbr tt A.R.Rahman Live in Bangalore - October 8th, 2005br The Countdown Begins - Its D-day!!! br br br Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.br Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.br br Homepage: a href=http://www.arrahmanfans.com;http://www.arrahmanfans.com/abr Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br br /tt brbr brbr div style=width:500px;text-align:right;margin-bottom:1px;color:#909090 ttSPONSORED LINKS/tt /div table bgcolor=#e0ecee cellspacing=13 cellpadding=0 width=500px tr valign=top td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Music+artistsamp;w1=Music+artistsamp;w2=Christian+music+artistsamp;w3=Country+music+artistsamp;w4=New+country+music+artistsamp;w5=New+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=t5DGy5PkjRgJyzykn0dbHw;Music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Christian+music+artistsamp;w1=Music+artistsamp;w2=Christian+music+artistsamp;w3=Country+music+artistsamp;w4=New+country+music+artistsamp;w5=New+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=VvhebP5BnEbyLqxlDH-BEw;Christian music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Country+music+artistsamp;w1=Music+artistsamp;w2=Christian+music+artistsamp;w3=Country+music+artistsamp;w4=New+country+music+artistsamp;w5=New+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=GzXecTA8MoCOzk9t7xC1RQ;Country music artists/a/tt /td /tr tr valign=top td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=New+country+music+artistsamp;w1=Music+artistsamp;w2=Christian+music+artistsamp;w3=Country+music+artistsamp;w4=New+country+music+artistsamp;w5=New+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=IBC6lJSCIeu3JRe_WlalAw;New country music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=New+music+artistsamp;w1=Music+artistsamp;w2=Christian+music+artistsamp;w3=Country+music+artistsamp;w4=New+country+music+artistsamp;w5=New+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=hm35oGtb_pCWlV0pqf0HkA;New music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Unsigned+music+artistamp;w1=Music+artistsamp;w2=Christian+music+artistsamp;w3=Country+music+artistsamp;w4=New+country+music+artistsamp;w5=New+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=D8LKy1IDvcgVHn18MO1lPg;Unsigned music artist/a/tt /td /tr /tr /table br div style=text-align:center;color:#909090;width:500px hr style=border-bottom:1px;width:500px;text-align:left ttYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS/tt /div br ul ttli type=square Visit your group quot;a href=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans;arrahmanfans/aquot; on the web.br /tt ttli type=square To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:br a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/abr /tt ttli type=square Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the a href=http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/;Yahoo! Terms of
RE: [arr] Sir ARR go international
Don't worry, that will also happen in due time. you'll probably see the likes of Celine Dion crooning to Boss' music. It's just a matter of time. He's gotta be the hottest composer in world music today. BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1 From: iquot;ashwinquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/ibrReply-To: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrTo: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrSubject: i[arr] Sir ARR go international/ibrDate: iFri, 07 Oct 2005 20:48:45 -/ibr brhtmlbody tt hey guys,br I think the biggest problem tha kepps Sir ARR form the br international fame he deserves in the language problem. I think br either he should translate some of his songs to English and release br as an album, if he doesn't have the time to take up new projects. I br know his songs can be chartbusters in international market. That's br what I think.br br ashbr br br br /tt brbr tt A.R.Rahman Live in Bangalore - October 8th, 2005br The Countdown Begins - 1 day to go br br br Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.br Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.br br Homepage: a href=http://www.arrahmanfans.com;http://www.arrahmanfans.com/abr Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br br /tt brbr brbr div style=width:500px;text-align:right;margin-bottom:1px;color:#909090 ttSPONSORED LINKS/tt /div table bgcolor=#e0ecee cellspacing=13 cellpadding=0 width=500px tr valign=top td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Country+music+artistsamp;w1=Country+music+artistsamp;w2=Music+artistsamp;w3=New+country+music+artistsamp;w4=New+music+artistsamp;w5=Christian+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=nBUmg_VcgIihiBzORzjs1g;Country music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Music+artistsamp;w1=Country+music+artistsamp;w2=Music+artistsamp;w3=New+country+music+artistsamp;w4=New+music+artistsamp;w5=Christian+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=3pySawoo9LegeRVJP1u8kg;Music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=New+country+music+artistsamp;w1=Country+music+artistsamp;w2=Music+artistsamp;w3=New+country+music+artistsamp;w4=New+music+artistsamp;w5=Christian+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=RkXJJgOGHhq1NS8FY99eiQ;New country music artists/a/tt /td /tr tr valign=top td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=New+music+artistsamp;w1=Country+music+artistsamp;w2=Music+artistsamp;w3=New+country+music+artistsamp;w4=New+music+artistsamp;w5=Christian+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=ZQ9hdPTRQn31ZmQUG9cS-g;New music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Christian+music+artistsamp;w1=Country+music+artistsamp;w2=Music+artistsamp;w3=New+country+music+artistsamp;w4=New+music+artistsamp;w5=Christian+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=K34-FnluLfamFdhFGSlGig;Christian music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Unsigned+music+artistamp;w1=Country+music+artistsamp;w2=Music+artistsamp;w3=New+country+music+artistsamp;w4=New+music+artistsamp;w5=Christian+music+artistsamp;w6=Unsigned+music+artistamp;c=6amp;s=156amp;.sig=RsAw9yL403REOYcogyIR1w;Unsigned music artist/a/tt /td /tr /tr /table br div style=text-align:center;color:#909090;width:500px hr style=border-bottom:1px;width:500px;text-align:left ttYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS/tt /div br ul ttli type=square Visit your group quot;a href=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans;arrahmanfans/aquot; on the web.br /tt ttli type=square To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:br a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/abr /tt ttli type=square Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the a href=http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/;Yahoo! Terms of Service/a./tt /ul br div style=text-align:center;color:#909090;width:500px hr style=border-bottom:1px;width:500px;text-align:left /div /br /body/html br/font/BLOCKQUOTE Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- A.R.Rahman Live in
RE: [arr] Lata mangeshar's favourite song from 90's
I'm curious as to what songs she picked from the other 5 decades..do you remember? From: "bpr_arr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] Lata mangeshar's favourite song from 90'sDate: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:04:27 +0530 Was watching NDTV India yestarday night a program called "Raat Baaki". There was a feature on Lata Mangeshkar. They also mentioned Lata's Top 5 favourite songs of each decade. They started of from 50's. When they came to the 90's guyz hold ur breath Lata mentioned that "Jiya Jale" was her favourite song. She also said that when she initially sung the song she did not like it much. But after hearing the finished song she was very very happy with it. ARR Rulez RaghuExplore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comAdmin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS New music artists Country music artists Music artists Christian music artists New country music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [arr] ARR's New Studio
DAMN! Looks s good. :) From: "srinath_anand" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] ARR's New StudioDate: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:08:30 -http://www.soundwizard.net/projects/index.php?app_id=1Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comAdmin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Country music artists Music artists New country music artists Christian music artists New music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [arr] Remembering Dil Se.......
Yes, Dil Se is unarguably, one of ARR's best creations and is way ahead of its time. I can recall how I hated this album except for Chaiya Chaiya (which is what got me into this album) on first hearing in 97. The sound of the album did not have predecessors at all, even among ARR's previous albums, which had the very pop sound (Roja, Rangeela, Kabhi-na-Kabhi etc.. and of course I had not heard all of his albums, especially the Tamil ones during that time..only 3 years into my ARR odyssey!). So, Dil Se was indeed harsh on my ear at first...I hated Satarangi Re and wondered how ARR could compose such bad music. And at that time I did not know about the aging effects of ARR's magic either! :) So, I only listened to Chaiya chaiya for the longest time. And then I slowly started liking Ae Ajnabi..then Dil Se Rethen Jiya Jale... and finally Satrangi re...now Satrangi re is one of my favorite songs..and like you all have corectly noted it's all about passion in this song and how ARR captures Manisha's character (is it Meghna?) with that shy but mystic voice is mind-blowing. And Sonu rocks this song with his all-heart rendition. My appreciation for the brilliance of this album grew ten-fold after I saw the movie. It was a true musical with a tragic ending. I guess any director with a Sufi theme will get his money's worth from ARR! :) BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1 From: iquot;Ajitquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/ibrReply-To: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrTo: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrSubject: i[arr] Remembering Dil Se.../ibrDate: iWed, 21 Sep 2005 16:44:33 -/ibr brhtmlbody tt Rahman fans,br br I have been listening to Dil Se after a long time and realize what a br true gold mine this soundtrack presents. The album Dil Se holds a br very special place in my heart and mind. Never has a Hindi album as a br whole moved me musically as much as this one, and ironically, I am br realizing this now much more than when it came out. I think it was br ahead of its time in 1998. For me, it's a perfect album.10/10. br It has everything from trance/dance, melody, haunting arrangements, br mild blowing lyrics, awesome percussion, sweet singingLata, br Rahman, Udit, Sukhi, Sonu, Kavitha, Sujatha..JUST THE BEST br COMBO. I think we all have our favorite Rahman albums and this one br is a favorite among many. br br This album for me is beyond music. It's just earth shattering. From br the mesmerizing rhythms of Chaiya Chaiya to the haunting chords of br Dil Se Re, to the lilting melody of E Ajnabi to the passion of br Satrangi Re. br br What is your favorite song from Dil Se? Do you remember when you br first heard Dil Se? What did you think?br br I also want to ask.what was going through Rahman's mind when br composing this once in a lifetime masterpiece? We know that he makes br great music for Mani, but especially for this album, I would like to br know the inspiration behind this.br br I don't expect everyone to like this album or find it their favorite. br br br br br br /tt brbr tt Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.br Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.br br Homepage: a href=http://www.arrahmanfans.com;http://www.arrahmanfans.com/abr Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br br /tt brbr br div style=text-align:center;color:#909090;width:500px hr style=border-bottom:1px;width:500px;text-align:left ttYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS/tt /div br ul ttli type=square Visit your group quot;a href=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans;arrahmanfans/aquot; on the web.br /tt ttli type=square To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:br a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/abr /tt ttli type=square Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the a href=http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/;Yahoo! Terms of Service/a./tt /ul br div style=text-align:center;color:#909090;width:500px hr style=border-bottom:1px;width:500px;text-align:left /div /br /body/html br/font/BLOCKQUOTE Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this
RE: [arr] Re: Is ghai gud enough to use rahman's music?
I find it hard to believe ARR does not know how his songs will be used in films. I mean certain directors are reputed for not using entire songs in movies. That's why I find it hard to believe that ARR is so upset about it. A song used as background music, even in its entirety,will not carry well with audiences anyway, because the full focus is not on the song. The reason ARR likes doing movies with the likes of Benegal must be because the stories are good and have some character to them, which opens up so many possibilities. And period movies give him the chance to compose melodies unlike more formulaic movies. He probably should not do too many period movies at one time, and try mis it up a little bit. I don't think he should give up on period movies because some of his best music have been inspired by period drama. Just my 2 cents. From: "Subramanian H K" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] Re: Is ghai gud enough to use rahman's music?Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:39:18 -i second you on that... i cannot see ghai as a director... he is just a businessman--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, partha sirigiri[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Anand Bharathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with you, Pravinder. It is high time he speaks out. This is the age of cut throat advertising and self promotion. Without stooping to that level it won't harm if ARR speaks his mind. Coming from a great person like it will atleast make the industry sit up and take notice about where we are heading to. Like the comment on the industry following herd mentality. Sounds very much unlike ARR but I am happy if he had said it because it is true. The only problem is the whole industry would be on one side and ARR on the other as everyone seems to be churning out garbage at a frenetic pace. I was upset to read a few days back that even S.Moitra copied some of his songs in Parineeta as I loved those songs and thought here is one guy who can follow in our boss's footsteps. So what is ARR supposed to do? He should be fuming inside seeing all these guys giving unoriginal work and good directors like Ghai and Benegal not using his songs well. Let him give a vent to his feelings. He cannot be a saint for ever. My only concern is if at all the content of these interviews is true, does he tell the directors about his opinion before talking to the media because we also do not want to have these directors misconstrue his comments and get put off. Forgive my ranting but pl. do comment.anand - Original Message - From: Pravinder Sheoran To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 6:57 AM Subject: [arr] Re: I've been making too many sacrifices: Rehman hi all i am happy if rahman has said this all enough time have elaspsed without saying anything if something wrong happens with u, then u should reveal it or at least a hint without itsince a long time his music has not been used properly in the moviesso its good if rahman said itbye --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Dasun Abeysekera" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]SPONSORED LINKS Independent music artist Christian music artists New music artists Music artists Artist music Music artist management -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web.b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- hi everyone! i dont really know how many of u feel that subhash ghai is a good director.I somehow strongly believe that he is one of the worst.The way he used ARR's work in Taal and kisna leaves a lot to desire.The kind of music ARR gave for Taal and kisna any other good director wud have tried to complement it with equally good work if not better But ghai has made a waste of it.Infact Taal was successful purely because of ARR and kisna didn't even enjoy that.Take a director like shankar instead.In all his films ARR's music was a great hit and the films were blockbusters.EK se badkar ek.I think rahman shud think twice before signing projects with ghai.After all he does burn all his night oil to churn out master pieces like hum hai is pal yahaan and they shud be put to a more deserving purpose __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Fi
RE: [arr] I've been making too many sacrifices: Rehman
Wow! Are we to believe Boss said all this? Or SKJ must really enjoy putting ARR's name to disrepute! "I've been making too many sacrifices (?)" Is that somethingBoss will say!?? Either he doesn't get what ARR says, or these are fabrications. I have no respect for this guy! From: "djtamilstyle" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] I've been making too many sacrifices: RehmanDate: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:46:01 -I've been making too many sacrifices: Rehman [Interview by Subhash K. Jha] Wednesday, September 14, 2005 A.R. Rahman thinks he has been making too many concessions with the way his songs are treated in films and says Bollywood needs to be proud of its music again."I''ve been making too many sacrifices, especially with the way my songs were used. I think Hindi films need to become proud of songs and music again," Rehman told IANS in an interview.He also brushes aside the charge of being repetitive, saying he has simply done a few too many period films. While Rehman wants to return to the format of musicals, he is also keen on composing for a string of Hindi films."It''s better to be burnt out than fade away," he said. Excerpts from the interview: So many period films...and now "Mangal Pandey". What challenges?I was offered three period films at the same time, including one from Roland Joffe. I was quite wary of doing "Mangal Pandey" until I heard the script. I thought there was no scope for music. Then when director Ketan Mehta and Aamir Khan came to me I quite liked the interpretation. So we plunged into it. Before that I was like...'Oh no, not another period film! I just did "Bhagat Singh" and "Bose"...Composing for a sutradhar, as I've done in "Mangal Pandey", was a new experience for me.How did you pick Kailash Kher for the title song?I wanted a very Nusrat Ali Khan kind of voice. Lyricist Mehboob suggested Kailash. He has done a fabulous job. "Vaari vaari" in "Mangal Pandey" is my first mujra.Your music in "Bose - The Forgotten Hero" went unnoticed?They didn't picturise a large part of my music. When the music isn't picturised, it goes unnoticed. The junta disregarded it. I told Shyam Benegal that it's imperative to cash in on whatever songs I compose. Why be apologetic about the music? But I must say I enjoyed composing for "Bose"...For me, every score is enjoyable. It can't be helped if some of them went out of hand. Did the music for a film called "Adaa", I don't know what happened. I put my best effort in all of them. The rest is up to god.In Mumbai there's a growing feeling that your songs have become repetitive?Which of my songs are repetitive? Tell me, so I can correct myself. According to me, the repetitive pattern in my career was caused by the series of period films. But I got paid very well.Is money important?Not as a rule. But I had invested in a studio in Chennai that cost more than I had bargained for. I didn't have to take a loan. And I enjoyed doing all the period films. But now whatever films I have on hand - like Abbas Tyrewala's "Jane Tu" and Rakesh Mehra's "Rang De Basanti", Shyam Benegal and Rajiv Menon's new film - aren't period films.Too many assignments in Hindi?Better to be burnt out than fade way...1999 was my busiest period -"Dil Se", "Taal", "Bombay Dreams", "Kandukondain Kandukondain". I love working on musical subjects like "Taal", "Sapne" and "Kandukondain Kandukondain". Ghai and Mani Ratnam are two people who know what to do with music. I want to return to that format. For now I've stopped doing period films though they've helped me go new areas of my creativity. Their fate wasn't in my hand. I'm doing three southern Indian films. I'm happy about them. At least they won't feel let down and they won't feel I've run away, like they sometimes believe in Mumbai.What went wrong with the music in "Yuva"?In "Yuva", Mani Ratnam didn't want songs in the first place. The songs were done largely for the background. I knew from the start there would be very high expectations from our combination. I knew they were in for a letdown, though not as much as they finally were.I've been making too many sacrifices, especially with the way my songs were used. I think Hindi films need to become proud of songs and music again. That's what the history of our cinema is about. Even my "Hum hain iss pal yahan" in Ghai's "Kisna" was used in the background.The music boom in the Mumbai film industry is over.The boom in music happened in the mid-1990s. That's when "Roja" happened. During the last 7 to 8 years the whole equation between music and cinema has changed. "Dhoom" had one hit song, and that song made the film a hit. I feel audiences shouldn't be tortured with unwanted songs. At the same time why deprive them of something they love?Anything in Hindi songs that you like lately?I like M.M. Kreem's songs. "Jadu hai nasha hai" in "Jism" and some of the Pakistani songs. Otherwise Hindi music seems to be following the
RE: [arr] leave the worst songs .so how many ppl have done justice?
Azhage Sugamaman, that is one of the most romantic songs I've ever heard. ARR captures the mood of the lyrics like only he can...I barely understand the lyrics to appreciate the genius in this song, but for example, when Sadhna sings...(and my Tamilian brothers, pardon me for bad spellings, and if I have not understood the meaning please correct me as well) veeda vasal sugama, un veeta thottam sugama, pookal ellam sugama, un poigaam ellam sugama. (how does your house, how does it's garden how are the blooming flowers, and how are your lies? and she does a little aalap that carries the verse into 'anbe sugama..' How the mood of the aalap goes from a teasing tone to one of caring and longingit blows my mind. I wonder if anybody felt it this way, but these subtleties are what makes him a world apart. Nobody can capture mood changes in such a small musical phrase. Hail ARR! Regards, Dasun BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1 From: iquot;Alan Hadle .Hquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/ibrReply-To: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrTo: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrSubject: i[arr] leave the worst songs .so how many ppl have done justice?/ibrDate: iTue, 13 Sep 2005 14:09:59 -/ibr brhtmlbody tt hey pplbr br instead of listing which songs of our boss lacked quality why dont ubr tell which songs have received less appreciation.br the first song on my list isbr 1)azhage sugama frm parthaley paravasambr how many times has this song been aired in tv and radio's .Mirchi doesbr justice by airing it at kadhala kadhala sometimes.br br 2)sonnalum ketpathillai kanni manathu frm kadhal virus.Not aired stillbr now except when the movie was telecasted.br br 3)songs like nenjam ellam kadhal ,vellai pookal ,senyore were spoiledbr without picturisation.br br 4)even songs like enakoru girlfriend ,maaro maaro r shown rarely.br br but ppl of our state like the manmatha raasa,kumbidaponabr theivam,rendulathan onna thoda variya which r hit numbers .ashamed!!br br not many know muppathu nimidam frm parasuram is one song tht is bterbr than all the recent melodies.br br signs,br arsbr br br br br /tt brbr tt Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.br Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.br br Homepage: a href=http://www.arrahmanfans.com;http://www.arrahmanfans.com/abr Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]br br /tt brbr brbr div style=width:500px;text-align:right;margin-bottom:1px;color:#909090 ttSPONSORED LINKS/tt /div table bgcolor=#e0ecee cellspacing=13 cellpadding=0 width=500px tr valign=top td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Independent+music+artistamp;w1=Independent+music+artistamp;w2=Christian+music+artistsamp;w3=New+music+artistsamp;w4=Music+artistsamp;w5=Artist+musicamp;w6=Music+artist+managementamp;c=6amp;s=148amp;.sig=eQ-6PjTtz7HtLd0SEahS7w;Independent music artist/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Christian+music+artistsamp;w1=Independent+music+artistamp;w2=Christian+music+artistsamp;w3=New+music+artistsamp;w4=Music+artistsamp;w5=Artist+musicamp;w6=Music+artist+managementamp;c=6amp;s=148amp;.sig=0U8l8G6VcaQZuqmvimBykQ;Christian music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=New+music+artistsamp;w1=Independent+music+artistamp;w2=Christian+music+artistsamp;w3=New+music+artistsamp;w4=Music+artistsamp;w5=Artist+musicamp;w6=Music+artist+managementamp;c=6amp;s=148amp;.sig=5dZadW8Dn1eg7Xn_Rsqezg;New music artists/a/tt /td /tr tr valign=top td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Music+artistsamp;w1=Independent+music+artistamp;w2=Christian+music+artistsamp;w3=New+music+artistsamp;w4=Music+artistsamp;w5=Artist+musicamp;w6=Music+artist+managementamp;c=6amp;s=148amp;.sig=a_iFufPSB_lFmj5s44DM1A;Music artists/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Artist+musicamp;w1=Independent+music+artistamp;w2=Christian+music+artistsamp;w3=New+music+artistsamp;w4=Music+artistsamp;w5=Artist+musicamp;w6=Music+artist+managementamp;c=6amp;s=148amp;.sig=5t9y-3zKXvWVRtyfMyar0Q;Artist music/a/tt /td td style=width:25% tta href=http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=msamp;k=Music+artist+managementamp;w1=Independent+music+artistamp;w2=Christian+music+artistsamp;w3=New+music+artistsamp;w4=Music+artistsamp;w5=Artist+musicamp;w6=Music+artist+managementamp;c=6amp;s=148amp;.sig=GwCUQJ0qsD4V_W1tC3O7iw;Music
RE: [arr] Peter Culshaw on Rahman
I think this is trueRDB did have a raw sense of humour and wit in his compositions; that was his gift. ARR on the other hand has a supreme sense of spirituality, which is his gift; Both are different states of mind, thus the different qualities in their music. I still think ARR's songs are more technically perfect and covers a broader scope of the musical spectrum. I love RDB...I can dance all day to Bach Ke Rehna, Tum Saath Ho Jab, Jaha Teri Ye Nazar...etc. These are qunitessentially witty RDB at his best. ARR can't have that sense of wit because that is not who he is. But, a song like Radha Kaise Na Jale is very witty, in a totally different way that is intelectually stimulating, may not tickle your funny bone that much. BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1 From: iquot;slsreeniquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/ibrReply-To: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrTo: iarrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/ibrSubject: i[arr] Peter Culshaw on Rahman/ibrDate: iTue, 23 Aug 2005 20:33:42 -/ibr brhtmlbody tt br Writing on the new Asha Bhosle CD with the Kronos Quartet:br br quot;All of which is reflected in the Kronos arrangements, which br highlight [RD] Burman's innate gift for melody. His only br contemporary Bollywood rival would be AR Rahman, but Rahman is br really the Indian Lloyd Webber; with a melodic talent, certainly, br but lacking Burman's wit and panache.quot;br br Will this trigger a Burman versus Rahman controversy here? Not that br I mind, as long as a modicum of decency and a healthy appreciation br of other points of view is maintained, not to mention a sense of br humor.br br a href=http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/10bestcds/story/0,12102,1527845,00;http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/10bestcds/story/0,12102,1527845,00/abr .htmlbr br Kronos Quartet and Asha Bhosle, You've Stolen My Heart: Songs From br RD Burman's Bollywood br br Peter Culshaw hears a Bollywood legend treated with the reverence br his work deserves br br Sunday July 17, 2005 br br Of all the musicians I have ever met, RD Burman and David Harrington br demonstrated the most enthusiasm and wide-ranging knowledge. After br they talked to you, you felt your mind had been expanded - possibly br warped for ever.br Harrington is the leader of the esteemed Kronos Quartet, who have br been producing extraordinary recordings for 25 years, successfully br negotiating the tricky world music/classical crossover (their Nuevo br album was truly ground-breaking). The late RD Burman's arena, br meanwhile, was the wild world of Bollywood soundtracks - and in his br Sixties heyday, he threw everything into the musical mix, from gypsy br music to Mexican mariachi, via can-can, psychedelia and swinging br jazz.br br This disc contains Kronos reworkings of some of Burman's best-loved br tunes, from 'If People Come' to 'In Dhanno's Eyes'. The Quartet are br pushed into rethinking their usual modus operandi, augmenting their br quartet with massive overdubs, tabla guru Zakir Hussain and Chinese br lute player Wu Man. Burman once said the only music he had no time br for was Chinese, so I'm not sure he'd approve. But the only possible br singer for the project was his muse and wife Asha Bhosle, who br reprises some of his greatest hits here - the collaboration marks a br real coup for the Kronos. Now in her sixties, she still has the br sweetness and fluidity that made her such a massive Playback star in br the first place. (Bhosle was even responsible for introducing br rock'n'roll to India, with her hit 'Ek Do Teen'.)br br Bollywood's image these days tends towards the trashy, and, br fittingly, that element is present, though underneath the music br packs an emotional punch. For many of us, these songs are from the br glory days of Indian cinema, when playfulness was mixed up with br serious social issues and many films were epic, Shakespearean br stories of family feuds, mistaken identity and forbidden love. All br of which is reflected in the Kronos arrangements, which highlight br Burman's innate gift for melody. His only contemporary Bollywood br rival would be AR Rahman, but Rahman is really the Indian Lloyd br Webber; with a melodic talent, certainly, but lacking Burman's wit br and panache.br br Decades before anyone talked about world music or postmodernism, br Burman was way ahead of the game, a visionary to whom Kronos have br paid a handsome tribute.br br Burn it: 'Beloved, O Beloved'; 'If People Come'br br br br br br br br br /tt brbr tt This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independencebr and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in br Mangal Pandey - The Risingbr a href=http://www.risingthefilm.com;http://www.risingthefilm.com/abr a href=http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com;http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com/abr Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005br
RE: [arr] Food for thought
I don't give a damn about public opinion these days. If movies like Swades and Yuva are deemed flops, then so be it. Nobody ever has made a difference following mass acceptance. As long as what Boss is creating musically is of quality and high standard that is what matters. I hope he continues to strive to do different things because the fruits of his efforts will be seen 10-20 years later when the current youngsters come to the public eye. I think movie directors need to make up their mind now. They need to approach making movies from a 'musical' perspective or 'serious or artsy' perspective. The Rising is a perfect example of somebody being caught in between these two and as a result not making the impactthe movie would have had if they had focused on either genre. It would have worked either way. This is where Bollywood needs to learn from Hollywood. Focus, focus, focus. It's time to make tough decisions and make some changes if we are to ever be accepted in an international market. Lagaan was a perfect example of a musical entertainer. The songswere not fillers, but enhanced the story,the songs were used cleverly and had so much character. The Rising wasspoilt because the songs were put in as fillers, although songs by themselves were extremely good. So, directors, pull up your socks and make up your minds! From: "Swaminathan Sivaramakrishnan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] Food for thoughtDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:46:32 -0500If Mangal Pandey flops, it would be Rahman's 9th consecutive flop in Hindi... Coming in the line of Bose, Kisna, Swades, Dil Ne Jise Apna Kaha, Yuva, Meenaxi, Lakeer and Tehzeeb. In the same time Baba, Udhaya, Parasuram, Kangalal Kaidhu Sei, E20U18 and Aayitha Ezhuthu have flopped in Tamil. Only Boys, in between, was a mild success and New, a moderate success.Mere coincidence or ?This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independenceand The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Risinghttp://www.risingthefilm.comhttp://www.mangalpandeythefilm.comMusic released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comAdmin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS New country music artists Music artists New music artists Country music artists Christian music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [arr] Re: arr interview in musicindiaonline
No kidding. They can't fool us anymore with this stuff! brbrbrgt;From: quot;Gopal Srinivasanquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;brgt;Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.combrgt;To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.combrgt;Subject: [arr] Re: arr interview in musicindiaonlinebrgt;Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:59:31 -brgt;brgt;The content of SKJ's article has been converted into an interview bybrgt;MIO and the style has quot;un-ARRquot; written all over itbrgt;brgt;--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, quot;Roshanquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote:brgt; gt; Interview : A R Rehman brilliantly going aheadbrgt; gt;brgt; gt;brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Indian music wizard AR Rehman has enthralled with his resoundingbrgt; gt; music time and again. His music is universal and one can hear himbrgt; gt; everywhere. He sounds in satellite channels, discos, festivities,brgt; gt; and all over the place. He is certainly the uncrowned king of thebrgt; gt; music world, a celebrity in his own right, a music composer who isbrgt; gt; going to set out for the globe soon. He has composed all kinds ofbrgt; gt; music but in the recent times one can see him concentrating more onbrgt; gt; the period films. `Mangal Pandey - The Rising' being the recent onebrgt; gt; form his kitty. However, he has decided to bid adieu to period filmsbrgt; gt; for the time being.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Excerpts from the Interview:brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Why have you taken the decision to drift yourself from period films?brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Over the years I've done many Hindi period films. The listbrgt; gt; reads `1947: Earth', `Zubeidaa', `Lagaan', `The Legend Of Bhagatbrgt; gt; Singh', `Water', `Bose: The Forgotten Hero', `Kisna' and thebrgt; gt; recent `Mangal Pandey - The Rising'. Composing music for a periodbrgt; gt; demands lots of dedication and research. I have put in my bestbrgt; gt; efforts for all these films but I've not been contended with thebrgt; gt; result it has yielded.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Why do you believe so?brgt; gt;brgt; gt; The result is obvious and one can see it before the eyes. The songsbrgt; gt; have not got their due as far as the cinematography is concerned.brgt; gt; They were either placed in the background, used poorly or were notbrgt; gt; used at all. As a composer this definitely hurts. I've gotbrgt; gt; aggravated and annoyed with this thing. But I'm helpless, I'm leftbrgt; gt; to swallow my own anger. The filmmaker knows how to better put thebrgt; gt; songs and my work is only to compose them.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Which are the films that have made you feel that your songs were notbrgt; gt; placed correctly?brgt; gt;brgt; gt; To start with Subhash Ghai's `Kisna'. `Hum Hain Iss Pal Yahan' wasbrgt; gt; an enchanting love ballad and it was due to be sung by the leadbrgt; gt; pairs Vivek Oberoi and Isha Shervani. However this didn't happen andbrgt; gt; the song was instead put in the background. The value of the songbrgt; gt; got lost due to it.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; There was a bitter experience in `Bose: The Forgotten Hero'. I hadbrgt; gt; built the music with great efforts. The producers of the film Saharabrgt; gt; had assured me a grand launch for the music and also a grandbrgt; gt; premiere for the film. I was surprised when nothing took place. I'vebrgt; gt; been associated with Shyam Benegal for `Zubeidaa' and `Bose' and I'mbrgt; gt; also doing another full musical venture with him.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Are you certain that you're going to burn your fingers no morebrgt; gt; composing periodic music?brgt; gt;brgt; gt; For the time being I'm sure about it. I believe that `Mangalbrgt; gt; Pandey' is my last period film. I did `Mangal Pandey' only for thebrgt; gt; sake of Aamir Khan because ever since `Lagaan' we share a very goodbrgt; gt; rapport. I've also composed for him `1947-Earth'. Right now I'mbrgt; gt; doing only contemporary Hindi assignments. My projects in thebrgt; gt; pipeline include Rakesh Mehra's `Rang De Basanti' and Abbasbrgt; gt; Tyrewala's romantic film. Both of them have modern subjects.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; How well is your mega-musical production `Lord of the Rings'brgt; gt; progressing?brgt; gt;brgt; gt; I'm all ready to release it in London in 2006.brgt; gt;brgt; gt;brgt; gt; But London had the recent terrorist attack!brgt; gt;brgt; gt; So what! I'm not scared. Music is all about spreading peace andbrgt; gt; everything comes after it. It gives the glimpse of civilization andbrgt; gt; humanity that is still alive.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; What are you other plans?brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Loads of world tour on the cards. By the end of July I'll set for UKbrgt; gt; for the world musical tour. I try to give dimension to my music andbrgt; gt; offer the audience something different. I'll complete my world tourbrgt; gt; in Bangalore. Here I've planned an innovative three-dimensionalbrgt; gt; concert that is going to be refreshing and revitalizing. I just planbrgt; gt; to keep
RE: [arr] Rahman not at his best - Rediff!!
At times you wonder if Boss will ever be at his best, cause you never know what he can come up with. Forget this reviewer, I don't think even Bossknows that! I was very surprised when he gave Water a 10/10. For somebody who always strives for perfection, and for somebody who strives for spritual integrity, to give a 10/10 to one of his works is very rare. Very, very rare. Judging if a work of art is somebody's best cannot be an analytical or logical. It has to be spiritual and can only be made by the creator of the work him/herself. That's why I don't think this reviewers (or anybody who makes such critical statements)last statement carries any meaning. Be analytical, but you cannot judge somebody else's potential! Rising is a very classy album, and will have very little mass appeal like Lagaan did. But, like I've said many times before, ARR's music is probably as close as you would get to creative perfection, which to me means bringing about the harmonyunderlying theemotions, situations,characters in one work of art. I don'tknow if to be sad or happy about the delay in releasing Water. It's like fine wine, aging in the celler somewhere, waiting forus to taste it when it isexquisite! :)But I'd sip it any moment now!! Hail ARR! DasunFrom: Guruprasad S [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] Rahman not at his best - Rediff!!Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:21:34 +0530http://in.rediff.com/movies/2005/jul/18rising.htmThe most consistent aspect of A R Rahman's music is its gradualappreciation.There is a smug assuredness to his composition, the maestro requiringfamiliarity from his listeners. One needs to be used to his music.Ketan Mehta's highly awaited *Mangal Pandey: The **Rising* demands a levelof concentration and discipline from its listener.Woven in the rustic fabric of Javed Akhtar's eloquent metaphors, KailashKher's bouncy singing and Rahman's inspiring notes, *Mangal mangal* is thealbum's lead track. It has three versions: *Mangal*, *Aatma* and *Agni*.These three pieces expound on the three states of a revolutionary's mind,drawing a parallel between the rising sun and Mangal Pandey. The firstarticulates the simplicity, beauty and purity of daybreak, when therevolutionary is born. Then comes the aggressive *Agni*, where he emergesforth. In *Aatma*, he graduates to a martyr, and is met by approval andapplause.Rahman says the '*mujra* song' was his most difficult composition. But theeffort pays off richly. *Main **vari vari*, with its splendid orchestraboasts of overwhelming classical character. Kavita Krishnamurthy's curvycrooning is suitably seductive and ably supported by Reena Bharadwaj'ssubdued refrains.Heavy on arrangement, the playfulness of *Holi re*'s verse does not tread oncatchy grounds. In the end, it's just a boisterous piece of music, whichexpresses symphonic chaos, but lacks the rhythm of mischief.Secrets of the heart are passionately revealed in *Rasiya re*. Uniquely,this is intense, not dark and flirtatious, not flippant. Be warned though, *Rasiya* is not easy listening. It will try your patience. Give it some spaceto grow on you.Life is a bustling market with a price tag for everything. So goes JavedAkhtar's simile in *Takey takey*. Sardonic and scoffing, *Takey *takes onthe dishonest society. It is more of a visual song that tries to make apoint without really being entertaining.Emotions run high in Rahman's penetrating rendition of the magnificentlystaged *Al maddath maula*.Once the album gets over, there is a lingering feeling of disappointment.There are times when the soundtrack rises to escalating heights only to limpawkwardly later. Though the score is monumental, it is not Rahman at hisbest. This August, Discover the Birth of Your Independence and The Magic of A.R.Rahman's Music in Mangal Pandey - The Rising http://www.risingthefilm.com http://www.mangalpandeythefilm.com Music released: Jul 14, 2005 Movie releases: Aug 12, 2005 Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [arr] rahman's symphony
This was supposed to be performed in September 05, not sure if it is still on schedule becoz of all the tours. I am really looking forward to it. The 'failure' you refer to is when Boss did a medley of his own tunes with famous Bollywood tunes with the world-renowned Birmingham Orchestra. Boss tried his hand at conducting, which is no easy task, and made a mistake it seems, to which he had appologized on the spot to the audience and later to the British press, who apparently made a huge deal of it.Regards, DasunFrom: "pradeep raju" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] rahman's symphonyDate: 6 Jun 2005 04:59:25 -Frenz, very happy to say that our chennai mozart is all set towork on his symphony(courtesy : kungumam magazine). beside the tight schedule (Lord of ring west end version, tamil, hindi films) he is spending time for that.once he tried for converting his compositions to symphony in london. but the attempt was failed(he was not prepared then)but what is symphony? no idea. Its only of ilayaraja i heard of the word "symphony".lets wait for our maestro's symphony. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [arr] Roja = among Time Magazine's Top Ten Best Film Soundtracks!!!!!
It's About Time!!! :) My heartiest congratulations to ARR as well!! brbrbrgt;From: quot;Ajitquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;brgt;Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.combrgt;To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.combrgt;Subject: [arr] Roja = among Time Magazine's Top Ten Best Film Soundtracks!brgt;Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:17:15 -brgt;brgt;Congrats to ARR What a great distinction!!brgt;brgt;brgt;http://www.time.com/time/2005/100movies/0,23220,soundtracks,00.htmlbrgt;brgt;brgt;brgt;br Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pKxVKC/UOnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [arr] Abhijeet on ARR
Very disappointed in Abhijeet's comments here. I love the guy's voice so much, but not impressed at all by his attitude. Must feel ignored by the fact that he hasn't had many chances to work for Boss. I can understand that, but he should probably understand that Boss rarely writes music for the kind of movies he is known to excel in - romantic comedies (Yes Boss, Chalte Chalte etc). To his credit, I must say, he did ace 'Ae Azneen Suno Na' (from Dil Hi Dil Mein) though. But ratingBoss's music 'flop' and saying Mumbai's music directors (who give him songs) arebetter talented than Boss, just showsimmaturity or denial on his part. From: Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] Abhijeet on ARRDate: Fri, 20 May 2005 08:08:17 -0700 (PDT)I admire the fact that Rahman can turn non entities into singers. I used to like Rahman's compositions at one point of time. But not any more. I think he's lost his touch. Rahman has become repetitive and is resting on his laurels. He is not creating any melodies in his compositions. In the last two years everything he has composed has flopped, yet some know-alls still consider him the best. I think Mumbai's music directors are far far more talented than Rahman. I'm happy he hasn't asked me to sing for him. Who wants to be part of his flop music?Abhijeet in Filmfare, June 2005."We neglect our cities at our peril. For, in neglecting them, we neglect the nation."-John F. Kennedy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection aroundhttp://mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [arr] Re: ARR 's BGM in Swades
Very true, Rano. I remember listening to Thoda Thoda (from Pavithra or Indira, sorry, I forget) and a thousand pictures ran through my mind, al so beautiful. I had such high expectations from the movie when I rented it. I was so disappointed. That's why I think ARR should work only with directors who do justice to his songs. Recently, I've fallen in love with Swasame and Porkalam from Tenali. It's an endless adventure, that is ARR's music! :) Hail ARR! Dasun From: "Ranojoy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: ARR 's BGM in Swades Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:05:47 - It's all A R R.. Have you seen Mera Rang De from TLOBS? A R R is truly incredible. There's a hidden irony and sadness in a r's music that is abstract and beautiful, and no one can emulate that, because it is a state of mind and not musical talent. That's what makes him a good COMPOSER. If you hear Pavithra without watching the movie, you can create many images in your mind, and then when you see the movie, you can see that the songs are playing in the background and are not well picturized at all.. A G makes a director's commentary for the entire movie to help guide A R for the bgm. I have seen A R play, and seen him compose, but I can truly only see a very talented musician and nothing beyond that. Other than that, he is a very normal and down-to-earth guy. How he gets these songs to sound so good is a mystery. I do think that the children's theme is a bit too much Adiemus. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ravi d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing to say, I dont know who inspired who for the song Yeh jo des hain tera. If it was Ashutosh who inspired ARR or ARR inspired AG. Bcos there is a kind of feeling inthat song which is right picturised and make u cry. As far as I remember National Awards is not yet announced for 2005. But wish ARR gets it. On 4/17/05, govindh_k [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear ARR Fans, Sorry if this mail is slightly off-track.. But I managed to see Swades only yesterday! Here is my take on the maestro's BGM: 1) NASA backdrop - easy one for the maestro. 2) When SRK travels to India in flight. A great probing music, that conveys the mental turmoil of SRK coupled with nostalgic feelings; exactly what would be a better instrument than an accordion/mouth organ. Simply stunning (also part of the title music) 2) The fast-paced chorus when STK enters Charanpur in the caravan - what a music!!!It rightly captures the sentiments of curious onlooker, the rush of excitement of SRK visitinig Kaveriamma.. Simply brilliant - one of the finest ARR has composed MR's films I guess. 3) The flute + some Alaipyudhe kind of feel when SRK and Geetha meet often; potrays some kind of closeness/bond between the lead characters. Extremely happy that ARR has been awarded the best BGM for National award (!).. What a great visualization he has in sharing and easing the burden of the director in potraying the intricacies of the script. A great milestone in a music-composer's career. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [arr] ekla cholo,ghum parani and durga puja theme
Hi Madhumita, I agree that Ekla Chalo and Ghoomparani are absolute wonders. The second antra on Ekla Chalo that goes hum chahe jiye..hum chahe mare.. moves me everytime. It's beautifully rendered by Sonu. Can you elaborate on why you felt the Durga Pooja disappointing please? I'm not familiar with the festival, and am curious to know more about it and why you couldn't relate the song to the spirit of the festival. Hail ARR! Regards, Dasun gt;From: quot;madhumitaquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com gt;To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com gt;Subject: [arr] ekla cholo,ghum parani and durga puja theme gt;Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 05:35:21 - gt; gt; gt; gt; hello people gt; according to me the song 'ekla cholo'can be regarded to be one of gt;the gt;most beautiful creation of rahman sir.'ghumparani masi pisi'is also gt;impresive. gt; the first two line of the song ekla cholo,that is gt;quot;jodi tor dak sune keu na ase tobe ekla cholo requot;,is a famous song of gt; gt;of bengal,originally composed and writen by rabindranath gt;tagore.rahman gt;sir kept the lyric and sur same and remixed it.the meaning of this gt;two gt;line is quot;if noone comes out by listening ur call then u start ur gt;journey alone.quot; gt; the song quot;ghum paraniquot;is a traditional folk rhyme of gt;bengal,which is used to make kids sleep. gt; but i felt a great disappointment after hearing the gt;durga puja theme music.durga puja is our biggest and magnificent gt;festival and it has a certain essence.i felt that essence is totally gt;absent in that theme. gt;by gt;madhumita ghosh gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pKxVKC/UOnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [arr] ekla cholo,ghum parani and durga puja theme
Ok I appologize for using the wrong words..it should be Ab Chahe jiye, ab chahee mare. :) gt;From: quot;Dasun Abeysekeraquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com gt;To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com gt;Subject: RE: [arr] ekla cholo,ghum parani and durga puja theme gt;Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 03:03:32 -0500 gt; gt; gt;Hi Madhumita, gt; gt;I agree that Ekla Chalo and Ghoomparani are absolute wonders. The second gt;antra on Ekla Chalo that goes quot;hum chahe jiye..hum chahe mare..quot; moves me gt;everytime. It's beautifully rendered by Sonu. gt; gt;Can you elaborate on why you felt the Durga Pooja disappointing please? I'm gt;not familiar with the festival, and am curious to know more about it and why gt;you couldn't relate the song to the spirit of the festival. gt; gt;Hail ARR! gt; gt;Regards, gt;Dasun gt; gt;amp;gt;From: amp;quot;madhumitaamp;quot; amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; gt;amp;gt;Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com gt;amp;gt;To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com gt;amp;gt;Subject: [arr] ekla cholo,ghum parani and durga puja theme gt;amp;gt;Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 05:35:21 - gt;amp;gt; gt;amp;gt; gt;amp;gt; gt;amp;gt; hello people gt;amp;gt; according to me the song 'ekla cholo'can be regarded to be one of gt;amp;gt;the gt;amp;gt;most beautiful creation of rahman sir.'ghumparani masi pisi'is also gt;amp;gt;impresive. gt;amp;gt; the first two line of the song ekla cholo,that is gt;amp;gt;amp;quot;jodi tor dak sune keu na ase tobe ekla cholo reamp;quot;,is a famous gt;song of gt;amp;gt; gt;amp;gt;of bengal,originally composed and writen by rabindranath gt;amp;gt;tagore.rahman gt;amp;gt;sir kept the lyric and sur same and remixed it.the meaning of this gt;amp;gt;two gt;amp;gt;line is amp;quot;if noone comes out by listening ur call then u start ur gt;amp;gt;journey alone.amp;quot; gt;amp;gt; the song amp;quot;ghum paraniamp;quot;is a traditional folk gt;rhyme of gt;amp;gt;bengal,which is used to make kids sleep. gt;amp;gt; but i felt a great disappointment after hearing the gt;amp;gt;durga puja theme music.durga puja is our biggest and magnificent gt;amp;gt;festival and it has a certain essence.i felt that essence is totally gt;amp;gt;absent in that theme. gt;amp;gt;by gt;amp;gt;madhumita ghosh gt;amp;gt; gt;amp;gt; gt;amp;gt; gt;amp;gt; gt;amp;gt; gt;amp;gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/c9hWNA/3MnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[arr] Another Old Article for New Fans
http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~kailasan/articles/the_week_april2000.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/c9hWNA/3MnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM ~- Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
