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Anyone can edit wiki pages. Let's for the official track list... http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indian-Movie-BGMS/146146955399503 http://indian-music-bgm.blogspot.com/ Please do not add me in YM. I only use this account for the group... --- On Mon, 9/6/10, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Another bull JHS tracklist? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 5:25 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhoota_Hi_Sahee#Music Someone changed this...againlikely having fun..rolls eyes 1. Cry Cry 2. Maiyya Yashoda (Jamuna mix) 3. Hello Hello 4. Do Nishaniyan 5. Pam Pa Ra 6. I've Been Waiting 7. Maiyya Yashoda (Thames mix) 8. Do Nishaniyan (Heartbreak Reprise) 9. Call Me Dil
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One thing is sure. The hand behind this track-list would definitely from our group. I doubts on GA :) SAJIN From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, September 7, 2010 4:25:58 AM Subject: [arr] Another bull JHS tracklist? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhoota_Hi_Sahee#Music Someone changed this...againlikely having fun..rolls eyes 1. Cry Cry 2. Maiyya Yashoda (Jamuna mix) 3. Hello Hello 4. Do Nishaniyan 5. Pam Pa Ra 6. I've Been Waiting 7. Maiyya Yashoda (Thames mix) 8. Do Nishaniyan (Heartbreak Reprise) 9. Call Me Dil
[arr] Another bull JHS tracklist?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhoota_Hi_Sahee#Music Someone changed this...againlikely having fun..rolls eyes 1. Cry Cry 2. Maiyya Yashoda (Jamuna mix) 3. Hello Hello 4. Do Nishaniyan 5. Pam Pa Ra 6. I've Been Waiting 7. Maiyya Yashoda (Thames mix) 8. Do Nishaniyan (Heartbreak Reprise) 9. Call Me Dil
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are not. Why bother looking outside the group, even I thought Gopal's list was genuine. But yes, when I got to know that it was made for fun, I did apologize to Gopal for thinking otherwise. But the fact remains that many were truly misguided by such list. Quote: The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having. Liking a song is entirely an individual's decision. For every album that ARR works on, 1 in 10 people might loathe it (his fans included). Those who like it will definitely talk great about it and those who don't...well, your constant harping on CW is the answer to that. On the other hand, I never came across reviews of members classifying CW as a masterpiece. At most, people only regard CW as a fun number and that it's going to be a big hit (which it has, actually). But then, no one has ever forced others (at least I don't see it here) to like CW, or any songs for the matter. People talk constantly about their likings on a particular song. I don't see what's the problem with that. After all, this is where an ARR's fan can put across their views. You're welcomed to tell why you don't like CW. No one is going to bother about that too. But the fact that you kept harping on why people are talking great about it is something to ponder about. I mean, you might not share the same feelings as us, but then it doesn't give you the right to tell us what to like and what not to. ARR has from time to time composed fun and frolic numbers such as CW. Numbers from the 90's like Chikku Bukku, Muqabla, and post 2000- Chori Pe Chori from Saathiya, Pappu Can't Dance, or Taxi Taxi are anything but masterpieces. But they are fun and people enjoy listening to them, even to date. No one complained about these numbers back then, so why should CW be treated differently now? Because it was post SDM and expectations are higher now? Or is it because Kylie was singing it? Kylie knew what she was getting into when she sang the number. If anything, I'm sure she wasn't expecting a Grammy award from this number. She never said that this was the best song or that the song was going to change the entire music industry and neither did ARR. Quote: Himesh's songs were liked more by those listeners than thsi but that didn't alter anything about Himesh. Why bring Himesh into this picture? There are people who think the world of Himesh's music, I'm sure. I don't see the reason to argue with them. But no one has ever compared Himesh's albums to ARR's. They are poles apart. And just because of one CW, you start comparing ARR to Himesh? Coming to think of it, do you seriously think that by composing CW, those who had great views on ARR are going to treat him differently now? I can understand when ARR's critics find CW as a punching bag to prove their point. It's a known fact that the critics would bad-mouth the least creative number in the album. What's more, it's expected from them. Nevertheless, I seriously can't find reasons why a person who claims to be ARR's fan would resort to such actions too. --- On *Sun, 10/18/09, V S Rawat /vsra...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] Such Bull! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 8:38 AM On 10/18/2009 7:14 PM India Time, _ichord_ wrote: People can talk all they want here, create however much noise they want, and bash Chiggy Wiggy all they want. Fine. I still like the song. So shoot me. I don't care if the whole damn world hates the song. I like it. Is it a masterpiece? No. It's a fun dance song. But, I guess for some here, liking a fun, simple, dance song even by ARR is not acceptable. ARR has already given Pappu that was a fun, simple, dance song. Nobody said that it was any great song, yet that became a hit without needing the crutches of any Kylie. Several fun dance songs by other MDs are getting hit. So, people know what to like and what not to like. Dust has still not settled on Chiggy Wiggy, let us see after six months how world rates bullu and CG then. till then... The fact that Chiggy went high on the charts says that the song is liked a lot by the common listener, not by everyone, by a lot. Himesh's songs were liked more by those listeners than thsi but that didn't alter anything about Himesh. This analysis of whether Chiggy is good or not is getting really old. Leave it to personal opinion and put this to rest once and for all! -- Rawat --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com /mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans
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can tell a person to write good or bad reviews on an album. An bear in mind that while reviews are basically a person's feelings on a particular album, fake track list are not. Why bother looking outside the group, even I thought Gopal's list was genuine. But yes, when I got to know that it was made for fun, I did apologize to Gopal for thinking otherwise. But the fact remains that many were truly misguided by such list. Quote: The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having. Liking a song is entirely an individual's decision. For every album that ARR works on, 1 in 10 people might loathe it (his fans included). Those who like it will definitely talk great about it and those who don't...well, your constant harping on CW is the answer to that. On the other hand, I never came across reviews of members classifying CW as a masterpiece. At most, people only regard CW as a fun number and that it's going to be a big hit (which it has, actually). But then, no one has ever forced others (at least I don't see it here) to like CW, or any songs for the matter. People talk constantly about their likings on a particular song. I don't see what's the problem with that. After all, this is where an ARR's fan can put across their views. You're welcomed to tell why you don't like CW. No one is going to bother about that too. But the fact that you kept harping on why people are talking great about it is something to ponder about. I mean, you might not share the same feelings as us, but then it doesn't give you the right to tell us what to like and what not to. ARR has from time to time composed fun and frolic numbers such as CW. Numbers from the 90's like Chikku Bukku, Muqabla, and post 2000- Chori Pe Chori from Saathiya, Pappu Can't Dance, or Taxi Taxi are anything but masterpieces. But they are fun and people enjoy listening to them, even to date. No one complained about these numbers back then, so why should CW be treated differently now? Because it was post SDM and expectations are higher now? Or is it because Kylie was singing it? Kylie knew what she was getting into when she sang the number. If anything, I'm sure she wasn't expecting a Grammy award from this number. She never said that this was the best song or that the song was going to change the entire music industry and neither did ARR. Quote: Himesh's songs were liked more by those listeners than thsi but that didn't alter anything about Himesh. Why bring Himesh into this picture? There are people who think the world of Himesh's music, I'm sure. I don't see the reason to argue with them. But no one has ever compared Himesh's albums to ARR's. They are poles apart. And just because of one CW, you start comparing ARR to Himesh? Coming to think of it, do you seriously think that by composing CW, those who had great views on ARR are going to treat him differently now? I can understand when ARR's critics find CW as a punching bag to prove their point. It's a known fact that the critics would bad-mouth the least creative number in the album. What's more, it's expected from them. Nevertheless, I seriously can't find reasons why a person who claims to be ARR's fan would resort to such actions too. --- On *Sun, 10/18/09, V S Rawat /vsra...@gmail.comvsrawat%40gmail.com/* wrote: From: V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com vsrawat%40gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] Such Bull! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 8:38 AM On 10/18/2009 7:14 PM India Time, _ichord_ wrote: People can talk all they want here, create however much noise they want, and bash Chiggy Wiggy all they want. Fine. I still like the song. So shoot me. I don't care if the whole damn world hates the song. I like it. Is it a masterpiece? No. It's a fun dance song. But, I guess for some here, liking a fun, simple, dance song even by ARR is not acceptable. ARR has already given Pappu that was a fun, simple, dance song. Nobody said that it was any great song, yet that became a hit without needing the crutches of any Kylie. Several fun dance songs by other MDs are getting hit. So, people know what to like and what not to like. Dust has still not settled on Chiggy Wiggy, let us see after six months how world rates bullu and CG then. till then... The fact that Chiggy went high on the charts says that the song is liked a lot by the common listener, not by everyone, by a lot. Himesh's songs were liked more by those listeners than thsi but that didn't alter anything about Himesh. This analysis of whether Chiggy is good or not is getting really old. Leave
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might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback on the goodness of his songs, and all those got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. I really don't see how people can be misguided by a group's review on an album. To start with, this is ARR's fan group. If anything, there is bound to be more positive reviews as compared to negative ones on ARR's albums from the members. If someone wanted an unbiased/objective review of ARR's album, well, there are many websites offering such reviews. The fan group is definitely the last place such person would go to. So I really don't see how your point of misguiding the public with endless advertising of Chiggy Wiggy and entire blue holds water here. And please don't akin the reviews to Gopal A's lovely pranks. No one can tell a person to write good or bad reviews on an album. An bear in mind that while reviews are basically a person's feelings on a particular album, fake track list are not. Why bother looking outside the group, even I thought Gopal's list was genuine. But yes, when I got to know that it was made for fun, I did apologize to Gopal for thinking otherwise. But the fact remains that many were truly misguided by such list. Quote: The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having. Liking a song is entirely an individual's decision. For every album that ARR works on, 1 in 10 people might loathe it (his fans included). Those who like it will definitely talk great about it and those who don't...well, your constant harping on CW is the answer to that. On the other hand, I never came across reviews of members classifying CW as a masterpiece. At most, people only regard CW as a fun number and that it's going to be a big hit (which it has, actually). But then, no one has ever forced others (at least I don't see it here) to like CW, or any songs for the matter. People talk constantly about their likings on a particular song. I don't see what's the problem with that. After all, this is where an ARR's fan can put across their views. You're welcomed to tell why you don't like CW. No one is going to bother about that too. But the fact that you kept harping on why people are talking great about it is something to ponder about. I mean, you might not share the same feelings as us, but then it doesn't give you the right to tell us what to like and what not to. ARR has from time to time composed fun and frolic numbers such as CW. Numbers from the 90's like Chikku Bukku, Muqabla, and post 2000- Chori Pe Chori from Saathiya, Pappu Can't Dance, or Taxi Taxi are anything but masterpieces. But they are fun and people enjoy listening to them, even to date. No one complained about these numbers back then, so why should CW be treated differently now? Because it was post SDM and expectations are higher now? Or is it because Kylie was singing it? Kylie knew what she was getting into when she sang the number. If anything, I'm sure she wasn't expecting a Grammy award from this number. She never said that this was the best song or that the song was going to change the entire music industry and neither did ARR. Quote: Himesh's songs were liked more by those listeners than thsi but that didn't alter anything about Himesh. Why bring Himesh into this picture? There are people who think the world of Himesh's music, I'm sure. I don't see the reason to argue with them. But no one has ever compared Himesh's albums to ARR's. They are poles apart. And just because of one CW, you start comparing ARR to Himesh? Coming to think of it, do you seriously think that by composing CW, those who had great views on ARR are going to treat him differently now? I can understand when ARR's critics find CW as a punching bag to prove their point. It's a known fact that the critics would bad-mouth the least creative number in the album. What's more, it's expected from them. Nevertheless, I seriously can't find reasons why a person who claims to be ARR's fan would resort to such actions too. --- On *Sun, 10/18/09, V S Rawat /vsra...@gmail.comvsrawat%40gmail.com/* wrote: From: V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com vsrawat%40gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] Such Bull! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 8:38 AM On 10/18/2009 7:14 PM India Time, _ichord_ wrote: People can talk all they want here, create however much noise they want, and bash Chiggy Wiggy all they want. Fine. I still like the song. So shoot me. I don't care if the whole damn world hates the song. I like it. Is it a masterpiece? No. It's a fun dance song. But, I guess
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Blue is as disappointing as it can get. Just stupid and ridiculous. Even AR fails to charm with his background score. Maybe cuz the movie is so bad. There is this female humming when Sanjay Dutt and Rahul Dev are shooting at each other. The music at this point was unbearable. On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:53 AM, V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/17/2009 9:43 AM India Time, _Gopal Srinivasan_ wrote: Akshay casually sizes up a white girl, and goes, Oh you are Kylie M i n o g u e,' before they begin heavy calisthenics on stage. Is it so? Just a technicality. Somehow I remember that it was Zayed who remarks is she Kyile Minogue? or something like that. Or was it Akshay saying above? Seems Mayank Shekhar concentrated so much on Kylie's beauty that he got the dialogue and the speaker jumbled up. Or was that me? :-) he he he The only minor gems I could spot in this huge aquarium is an instrumental or two of Rahman's, in an otherwise limp soundtrack. Exactly. I am already missing the bgms of this film. Hope the cd/ dvd becomes available in parlours, and some devoted fan rips and shares them. I was not really into bgms as I find it impossible to remember bgms that are not having lyrics. But I would like to listen to blue bgms. Just so you know why some dumb economies just deserve a recession. mayank.shek...@hindustantimes.com mayank.shekhar%40hindustantimes.com -- Rawat
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On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote: exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy is a huge failure of ARR. and yes though people didn't agree that it is a failure but i don't remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either. - Jahanzeb Yup. I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group itself that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the song endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since day one. Some are like going that way. Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a personal matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing called objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to get authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a lovely prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback on the goodness of his songs, and all those got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having. I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR. Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also practice it. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR track as SECOND RATE or cheap! Yup, it makes me sad. So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders! Yes, we must admit that. And I really wonder why ARR remained so uncharacteristically unimaginative in this particular song. To put things in proper perspective, I think I find Chiggy Wiggy the only single track by ARR, out of his 800-1000 songs, that is umimaginative. May be, ARR might wish to share the composing of Chiggy Wiggy or something like that to tell us what went wrong in it. I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said CHIGGY WIGGY was disappointing after the FIRST promo. They called it a worldclass masterpiece creation, and snubbed the fans who called it average, and expected in further albums. BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes all of us speechless!! Exceptional!! Righto. Exactly. Boss' brand value remains high as ever. Chiggy Wiggy might be a first failure of him so we are facing a new situation really and we are not able to think how to accept this fact. But our trust in our man, that he had so laboriously and consistently built up through 18 years remains as high as always and we will devour each of his next releases. -- Rawat
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People can talk all they want here, create however much noise they want, and bash Chiggy Wiggy all they want. Fine. I still like the song. So shoot me. I don't care if the whole damn world hates the song. I like it. Is it a masterpiece? No. It's a fun dance song. But, I guess for some here, liking a fun, simple, dance song even by ARR is not acceptable. The fact that Chiggy went high on the charts says that the song is liked a lot by the common listener, not by everyone, by a lot. This analysis of whether Chiggy is good or not is getting really old. Leave it to personal opinion and put this to rest once and for all! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote: exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy is a huge failure of ARR. and yes though people didn't agree that it is a failure but i don't remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either. - Jahanzeb Yup. I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group itself that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the song endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since day one. Some are like going that way. Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a personal matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing called objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to get authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a lovely prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback on the goodness of his songs, and all those got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having. I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR. Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also practice it. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR track as SECOND RATE or cheap! Yup, it makes me sad. So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders! Yes, we must admit that. And I really wonder why ARR remained so uncharacteristically unimaginative in this particular song. To put things in proper perspective, I think I find Chiggy Wiggy the only single track by ARR, out of his 800-1000 songs, that is umimaginative. May be, ARR might wish to share the composing of Chiggy Wiggy or something like that to tell us what went wrong in it. I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said CHIGGY WIGGY was disappointing after the FIRST promo. They called it a worldclass masterpiece creation, and snubbed the fans who called it average, and expected in further albums. BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes all of us speechless!! Exceptional!! Righto. Exactly. Boss' brand value remains high as ever. Chiggy Wiggy might be a first failure of him so we are facing a new situation really and we are not able to think how to accept this fact. But our trust in our man, that he had so laboriously and consistently built up through 18 years remains as high as always and we will devour each of his next releases. -- Rawat
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I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group I diagree with this 100%. Differing opinions don't discredit a group, but merely enhance it. then we can't hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback on the goodness of his songs, and all those got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. There is nothing wrong in expressing praise and enthusiasm for a song that one likes, even if many others don't like it. People have different opinions and that is that. Nobody is forcing anyone to like or dislike the song. The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having. Yes, good point. We must try not to be blind fans and critical analysis is always good up to a point. However, if someone expresses like a for a song that many dislike, let it be. Why challenge someone's opinion? I have learned this lesson too. If you like Chiggy Wiggy, then you like it. Whether a song has up points or down points is up to you. THat's the nature of music. One man's noise may be another man's symphony. I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR. Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also practice it. We are hear to express our thoughts and feelings about ARR's music. What is true to some may not be true to others. If one likes a song that you don't like, it doesn't make him or her bad, wrong, or giving ARR bad feedback. When it comes down to the quality of a song, there is no truth, but only taste, preference, and opinion. Yes, there can be a large consensus about how a song is liked or disliked, but ultimately, we all have different perceptions and we should leave it at that. Now, when it comes to things like sound quality and technical matters, then yes, there is such a thing as objectivity here and ARR should receive feedback on those points. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote: exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy is a huge failure of ARR. and yes though people didn't agree that it is a failure but i don't remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either. - Jahanzeb Yup. I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group itself that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the song endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since day one. Some are like going that way. Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a personal matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing called objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to get authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a lovely prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback on the goodness of his songs, and all those got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having. I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR. Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also practice it. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR track as SECOND RATE or cheap! Yup, it makes me sad. So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders! Yes, we must admit that. And I really wonder why ARR remained so uncharacteristically unimaginative in this particular song. To put things in proper perspective, I think I find Chiggy Wiggy the only single track by ARR, out of
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On 10/18/2009 7:14 PM India Time, _ichord_ wrote: People can talk all they want here, create however much noise they want, and bash Chiggy Wiggy all they want. Fine. I still like the song. So shoot me. I don't care if the whole damn world hates the song. I like it. Is it a masterpiece? No. It's a fun dance song. But, I guess for some here, liking a fun, simple, dance song even by ARR is not acceptable. ARR has already given Pappu that was a fun, simple, dance song. Nobody said that it was any great song, yet that became a hit without needing the crutches of any Kylie. Several fun dance songs by other MDs are getting hit. So, people know what to like and what not to like. Dust has still not settled on Chiggy Wiggy, let us see after six months how world rates bullu and CG then. till then... The fact that Chiggy went high on the charts says that the song is liked a lot by the common listener, not by everyone, by a lot. Himesh's songs were liked more by those listeners than thsi but that didn't alter anything about Himesh. This analysis of whether Chiggy is good or not is getting really old. Leave it to personal opinion and put this to rest once and for all! -- Rawat --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote: exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy is a huge failure of ARR. and yes though people didn't agree that it is a failure but i don't remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either. - Jahanzeb Yup. I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group itself that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the song endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since day one. Some are like going that way. Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a personal matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing called objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to get authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a lovely prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback on the goodness of his songs, and all those got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having. I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR. Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also practice it. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR track as SECOND RATE or cheap! Yup, it makes me sad. So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders! Yes, we must admit that. And I really wonder why ARR remained so uncharacteristically unimaginative in this particular song. To put things in proper perspective, I think I find Chiggy Wiggy the only single track by ARR, out of his 800-1000 songs, that is umimaginative. May be, ARR might wish to share the composing of Chiggy Wiggy or something like that to tell us what went wrong in it. I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said CHIGGY WIGGY was disappointing after the FIRST promo. They called it a worldclass masterpiece creation, and snubbed the fans who called it average, and expected in further albums. BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes all of us speechless!! Exceptional!! Righto. Exactly. Boss' brand value remains high as ever. Chiggy Wiggy might be a first failure of him so we are facing a new situation really and we are not able to think how to accept this fact. But our trust in our man, that he had so laboriously and consistently built up through 18 years remains as high as always and we will devour each of his next releases. -- Rawat
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I didn't like Chiggy Wiggy or Shano Shano. But my daughter likes it, some of my friends like it. I can see why they like it. To each his own. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/ On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:14 PM, ichord purev...@yahoo.com wrote: People can talk all they want here, create however much noise they want, and bash Chiggy Wiggy all they want. Fine. I still like the song. So shoot me. I don't care if the whole damn world hates the song. I like it. Is it a masterpiece? No. It's a fun dance song. But, I guess for some here, liking a fun, simple, dance song even by ARR is not acceptable. The fact that Chiggy went high on the charts says that the song is liked a lot by the common listener, not by everyone, by a lot. This analysis of whether Chiggy is good or not is getting really old. Leave it to personal opinion and put this to rest once and for all! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote: exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy is a huge failure of ARR. and yes though people didn't agree that it is a failure but i don't remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either. - Jahanzeb Yup. I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group itself that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the song endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since day one. Some are like going that way. Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a personal matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing called objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to get authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a lovely prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback on the goodness of his songs, and all those got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having. I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR. Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also practice it. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR track as SECOND RATE or cheap! Yup, it makes me sad. So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders! Yes, we must admit that. And I really wonder why ARR remained so uncharacteristically unimaginative in this particular song. To put things in proper perspective, I think I find Chiggy Wiggy the only single track by ARR, out of his 800-1000 songs, that is umimaginative. May be, ARR might wish to share the composing of Chiggy Wiggy or something like that to tell us what went wrong in it. I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said CHIGGY WIGGY was disappointing after the FIRST promo. They called it a worldclass masterpiece creation, and snubbed the fans who called it average, and expected in further albums. BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes all of us speechless!! Exceptional!! Righto. Exactly. Boss' brand value remains high as ever. Chiggy Wiggy might be a first failure of him so we are facing a new situation really and we are not able to think how to accept this fact. But our trust in our man, that he had so laboriously and consistently built up through 18 years remains as high as always and we will devour each of his next releases. -- Rawat
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Well said Purevibz!. And also lets not forget critical bias. We in this group inherently like rahmans music. So we want to like his compositions and we work our way through it. Rather than getting a pure outside-in view, which no fan base gives. Frankly, i think BLUE turned out poor in many ways, even the audio was loud (not bad, just loud). Don;t know what happened. To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: purev...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:07:04 + Subject: Re: [arr] Such Bull! I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group I diagree with this 100%. Differing opinions don't discredit a group, but merely enhance it. then we can't hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback on the goodness of his songs, and all those got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. There is nothing wrong in expressing praise and enthusiasm for a song that one likes, even if many others don't like it. People have different opinions and that is that. Nobody is forcing anyone to like or dislike the song. The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having. Yes, good point. We must try not to be blind fans and critical analysis is always good up to a point. However, if someone expresses like a for a song that many dislike, let it be. Why challenge someone's opinion? I have learned this lesson too. If you like Chiggy Wiggy, then you like it. Whether a song has up points or down points is up to you. THat's the nature of music. One man's noise may be another man's symphony. I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR. Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also practice it. We are hear to express our thoughts and feelings about ARR's music. What is true to some may not be true to others. If one likes a song that you don't like, it doesn't make him or her bad, wrong, or giving ARR bad feedback. When it comes down to the quality of a song, there is no truth, but only taste, preference, and opinion. Yes, there can be a large consensus about how a song is liked or disliked, but ultimately, we all have different perceptions and we should leave it at that. Now, when it comes to things like sound quality and technical matters, then yes, there is such a thing as objectivity here and ARR should receive feedback on those points. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 10/18/2009 4:51 AM India Time, _Jahanzeb_ wrote: exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy is a huge failure of ARR. and yes though people didn't agree that it is a failure but i don't remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either. - Jahanzeb Yup. I think it also puts on a question mark on the credibility of this group itself that several members acted like mouthpieces and kept on praising the song endlessly and even criticized those who were criticizing the song since day one. Some are like going that way. Now, such members would say that liking or not liking a song is a personal matter and they still like it. Well, it is, still there is a thing called objectivity. When we agree that this group is considered a place to get authentic information on ARR, and some members can't even tolerate a lovely prank played by Gopal Anandan for that exact point, then we can't hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback on the goodness of his songs, and all those got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having. I hope members will learn from this and will try to be more objective in giving their future reviews/ feedbacks on future releases of ARR. Remember, wrong feebacks in this group must be presenting a wrong picture about a song/ album to ARR himself if he is accessing the group. ARR needs truth. Underved praising will harm ARR. Let's not only utter Satyamev Jayate, but also practice it. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath
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I'm sorry but try as I might, I really can't understand the reasoning behind your animosity towards Chiggy Wiggy, Rawat. Yes, it's not a worldclass masterpiece...but then, who said it ever was? Like Ichord mentioned, it's a fun song. Some like it, many don't. Quote: We can't hide from the fact that other people might be looking at this group to get authentic feedback on the goodness of his songs, and all those got misguided by this group's endless advertising Chiggy Wiggy and entire bullu. I really don't see how people can be misguided by a group's review on an album. To start with, this is ARR's fan group. If anything, there is bound to be more positive reviews as compared to negative ones on ARR's albums from the members. If someone wanted an unbiased/objective review of ARR's album, well, there are many websites offering such reviews. The fan group is definitely the last place such person would go to. So I really don't see how your point of misguiding the public with endless advertising of Chiggy Wiggy and entire blue holds water here. And please don't akin the reviews to Gopal A's lovely pranks. No one can tell a person to write good or bad reviews on an album. An bear in mind that while reviews are basically a person's feelings on a particular album, fake track list are not. Why bother looking outside the group, even I thought Gopal's list was genuine. But yes, when I got to know that it was made for fun, I did apologize to Gopal for thinking otherwise. But the fact remains that many were truly misguided by such list. Quote: The reason might be: We fans might like anything given by our man because we love our man. It is normal human psychology. We might have convinced ourselves that we are liking Chiggy Wiggy or blue on some strengths it has while ignoring some down points it is having. Liking a song is entirely an individual's decision. For every album that ARR works on, 1 in 10 people might loathe it (his fans included). Those who like it will definitely talk great about it and those who don't...well, your constant harping on CW is the answer to that. On the other hand, I never came across reviews of members classifying CW as a masterpiece. At most, people only regard CW as a fun number and that it's going to be a big hit (which it has, actually). But then, no one has ever forced others (at least I don't see it here) to like CW, or any songs for the matter. People talk constantly about their likings on a particular song. I don't see what's the problem with that. After all, this is where an ARR's fan can put across their views. You're welcomed to tell why you don't like CW. No one is going to bother about that too. But the fact that you kept harping on why people are talking great about it is something to ponder about. I mean, you might not share the same feelings as us, but then it doesn't give you the right to tell us what to like and what not to. ARR has from time to time composed fun and frolic numbers such as CW. Numbers from the 90's like Chikku Bukku, Muqabla, and post 2000- Chori Pe Chori from Saathiya, Pappu Can't Dance, or Taxi Taxi are anything but masterpieces. But they are fun and people enjoy listening to them, even to date. No one complained about these numbers back then, so why should CW be treated differently now? Because it was post SDM and expectations are higher now? Or is it because Kylie was singing it? Kylie knew what she was getting into when she sang the number. If anything, I'm sure she wasn't expecting a Grammy award from this number. She never said that this was the best song or that the song was going to change the entire music industry and neither did ARR. Quote: Himesh's songs were liked more by those listeners than thsi but that didn't alter anything about Himesh. Why bring Himesh into this picture? There are people who think the world of Himesh's music, I'm sure. I don't see the reason to argue with them. But no one has ever compared Himesh's albums to ARR's. They are poles apart. And just because of one CW, you start comparing ARR to Himesh? Coming to think of it, do you seriously think that by composing CW, those who had great views on ARR are going to treat him differently now? I can understand when ARR's critics find CW as a punching bag to prove their point. It's a known fact that the critics would bad-mouth the least creative number in the album. What's more, it's expected from them. Nevertheless, I seriously can't find reasons why a person who claims to be ARR's fan would resort to such actions too. --- On Sun, 10/18/09, V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com wrote: From: V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] Such Bull! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 8:38 AM On 10/18/2009 7:14 PM India Time, _ichord_ wrote: People can talk all they want here, create however much noise they want, and bash Chiggy Wiggy all
Re: [arr] Such Bull!
This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR track as SECOND RATE or cheap! So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders! I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said CHIGGY WIGGY was disappointing after the FIRST promo. They called it a worldclass masterpiece creation, and snubbed the fans who called it average, and expected in further albums. BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes all of us speechless!! Exceptional!!
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Please don't confuse opinions with facts. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR track as SECOND RATE or cheap! So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders! I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said CHIGGY WIGGY was disappointing after the FIRST promo. They called it a worldclass masterpiece creation, and snubbed the fans who called it average, and expected in further albums. BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes all of us speechless!! Exceptional!!
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exactly. this is what i have been saying all the time, that Chiggy Wiggy is a huge failure of ARR. and yes though people didn't agree that it is a failure but i don't remember anyone calling it a worldclass masterpiece either. - Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: This is the FIRST TIME that some OFFICIAL reviewer is calling an ARR track as SECOND RATE or cheap! So, we must ADMIT facts! Chiggy Wiggy was certainly a MISTAKE from our BOSS's part, who is reverred in Bollywood and accross India for having created Superhuman Divine Musical wonders! I still REMEMBER, how some fellow fans reacted when I said CHIGGY WIGGY was disappointing after the FIRST promo. They called it a worldclass masterpiece creation, and snubbed the fans who called it average, and expected in further albums. BOSS wont repeat mistakes. Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya promo makes all of us speechless!! Exceptional!!
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On 10/17/2009 9:43 AM India Time, _Gopal Srinivasan_ wrote: Akshay casually sizes up a white girl, and goes, Oh you are Kylie M i n o g u e,' before they begin heavy calisthenics on stage. Is it so? Just a technicality. Somehow I remember that it was Zayed who remarks is she Kyile Minogue? or something like that. Or was it Akshay saying above? Seems Mayank Shekhar concentrated so much on Kylie's beauty that he got the dialogue and the speaker jumbled up. Or was that me? :-) he he he The only minor gems I could spot in this huge aquarium is an instrumental or two of Rahman's, in an otherwise limp soundtrack. Exactly. I am already missing the bgms of this film. Hope the cd/ dvd becomes available in parlours, and some devoted fan rips and shares them. I was not really into bgms as I find it impossible to remember bgms that are not having lyrics. But I would like to listen to blue bgms. Just so you know why some dumb economies just deserve a recession. mayank.shek...@hindustantimes.com -- Rawat
[arr] Such Bull!
Such Bull! Sometime around March, 2008, Bear Sterns, a big-league investment bank suddenly woke up one morning to learn of its unexpected decline. The firm was given to recklessness in the securities market. New York's Federal Reserve attempted an emergency surgery. None helped. The bank got sold off at $10 per share, down from its year-high of over $133. This was the first big news that convinced economists across of a looming Great Recession in America. The final news, if I may, is that of pop-sensation Kylie Minogue getting jiggy with Akshay Kumar, on a second-rate bhangra track called Chiggy Wiggy, in a third-rate Bollywood flick. It can't get worse on the US economic curve. I'm certain America will bounce back. This film though just refuses to. The song I speak of makes for an inspired moment in the movie. Akshay Kumar walks into a `ginormous' indoor stadium his buddy Sanjay Dutt calls the `illeet' nightclub of Bahamas. Akshay casually sizes up a white girl, and goes, Oh you are Kylie M i n o g u e,' before they begin heavy calisthenics on stage. The two gentlemen referred to play cool bumblers in the `hamas. They call each other Sethji (Kumar) and Sarkarji (Dutt): uncomfortably numb Van Blue Cast: Akshay Kumar, Sanjay Dutt, Zayed Khan Direction: Anthony D'Souza Rating: Damme and Vin Diesel with croaking voices. One's into orgies; the other, into a hot bikini (Lara Dutta). There is also a third gent involved (Zayed Khan). He is picked up for a clueless assignment of zipping across a city on his bike with a bagful of money that he loses along the way. Under debt of $50 million, he finds shelter under his brother's (Dutt) beach-home. You wonder what these three will do. Given an action director imported in from LA has done most of the work anyway. As you check into its jaws, you also sense a flick that is in parts Into The Blue (deep-sea diving, and treasure-hunt) and Torque (biking): neither that one could even recco for TV. The producers have pumped in multiple crores apparently. They must've thought up something of their own. Merely few comic scenes to punctuate this mayhem may have helped. Every once in a while, Sethji whispers to Sarkar ji the magic words, Lady in blue, expecting the audience to shriek, Woo hoo. This is when the characters don't repeat themselves: Duniya ka sabse bada nasha: risk (World's greatest addiction: risk). No one knows what this `Lady In Blue' business is about. It turns out a sunken ship with treasures in the ocean-bed that the British intended to return to India during transfer of power at Independence. Far-fetched as that may sound, the premise is convoluted even further: ship, captain, grandfather, father, God knows. The only minor gems I could spot in this huge aquarium is an instrumental or two of Rahman's, in an otherwise limp soundtrack. It's soothing still. What's around is just a random, action blow-ring. Pretty much everything gets pointlessly blown into bits, one after the other: apartment furnishings, beach villa, cars, trucks, bikes, yacht... Just so you know why some dumb economies just deserve a recession. mayank.shek...@hindustantimes.com
Re: [arr] RED BULL STORY (THOSE 3 HOURS BEFORE HOUSTON CONCERT WITH RAHMAN)
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience...hope you had a great time...You are very lucky..do share the pics with us.. Rahmaniac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its cloudy evening in Houston, and rushed from office early by saying my manager that my favorite musician is in City and I can't be in office under any case...He wished me good luck and gave send-off for the concert (how nice he is na!!) I prepared to break any rule to see ARR from near...but never expected such a mind blowing day I will be having.. The show was supposed to start at 9pm. I was there with one other rahmanaiac at the concert by 6pm. And I broke the first rule...I went directly before the stage...when I was entering, luckily rahman was not on the stage and he was coming for relaxation in the seating area. He sat there... I never gave any thought for a wait..I just went there..Completely in a shock...no words...Just told, Rahman ji, I am gr8 diehard fan of you..I just need one photograph and autograph from you you know, i met you already in unity of light concert in 2003, and this is the second time..and u donno that i touched you that day ;), he gave a smile...i donno what i was talking He is so down to earth...inspite of big tension before the concert starts(just 3 hours more...and nothing is been ready yet..) he said, Ok! and gave a small smile... We took one photo..and wanted a photograph with him...I sat beside him and i got it Then, Autograph...As I never expected, I could break the rule so easily...and I could meet ARR, I didnt carry anything to take an autograph... I asked him, if you dont mind could you please give autograph on my t-shirt which i am wearing, he asked surprisingly..this one?!...i told...Where? as it was black...and pen is also black... I showed him place, where can sign...his forehead...He gave it...uhmm.one deep breath...and he got call fro stage...he left the place..and never came down... I was just before the stage helping working guys in moving chairs etc and acting like i am a part of crew :) Rahman was looking at me in between...as I am continuously staring at him without moving my eyes...seem he was little bit in comfort..then I could see sivamani, rashid, naveen and ravi kiran very near to me.. and some time later almost all singers were also there on the stage...they were busy in doing their work shivamani was the entertainer for everyone with his dances and funny things..he makes laugh with everyone in the crew... Rashid ali...I had eye contact with him..asked him to come forward for a pic...he came...and asked who are we? I told, I am a gr8 fan of you also..i am also from hyderabad..I was there when you performed in unity of light concert in 2003, you sing very well also he was impressed and told, oh, you were there? good..and what were you doing here? I told I work here as a software engineer...he told good, and how come you are here? I told its the secret!!, I am a gr8 fan of Rahman...i could even tell i sweep hear--but the reason i came into is different ofcourse then Asked for a photograph with him...pleasantly he accepted and i had photo with him..and I said ok..thank you..he again went back to work And after that, I was moving hear and there...and rahman was also moving hear and there and helping everyone of the crew to setup their mikes properly.. then organizers came and offered some snacks for him..he took red bull...they came to me also, supposing that i am part of crew...i also took red bull(for the first time i am having red bull in life) naveen was also looking at me..and finally he smiled at methen i asked him to come close...he came.. I told, I was looking at you since long time, when you will come here he told suprisingly with a smile ohh.i am sorry! ohh..ok no problem..you are busy..i understand, and i told i am a great fan of you too..heard your fluid..its mind blowing...chennai rain was superb he thanked me..and so happy with my words.. asked for a snap..he put his hand on my shoulder very happily and gave fose for the photoso friendly... Then its the turn with Naresh Iyer...but he was looking at me strangely, like somewhere he saw me...I just called him to come closure and gave a shake hand thing is by that time...it is becoming busy...so i couldnt take a snap..I just told him you are a very good singer...i like your songs, wish you all the best he gave a cute smile and left place I went near sridhar...the busiest guy throughout the show...about to take a snap of him..he simply rejected it by saying...after!, i can understand how busy he might be...I asked at a wrong time...but i never felt bad...even if i was him, i could have done the same..such tensed the situation was..so, He helped naveen in setting up the mike..he is genius...he know how much angle should keep to get the effect from flute... then the godes, Rahman's mother came in the seating area..and was reading some tamil letters. I went
Re: [arr] RED BULL STORY (THOSE 3 HOURS BEFORE HOUSTON CONCERT WITH RAHMAN)
not that im not happy for u or the others who get to see and talk to a r rbut i personally feel we go overboard in the photograph autograph department without realising the frame of mind he may be in and that is quite a put off and embarrasing at timeshave experienced this personally too and when a r r asks me about these things dont know where to look.. Vijay _ Original message _ Subject:Re: [arr] RED BULL STORY (THOSE 3 HOURS BEFORE HOUSTON CONCERT WITH RAHMAN) Author: Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10th June 2007 8:48:43 AM simply awesome! u r the luckiest ever On 6/9/07, Rahmaniac™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its cloudy evening in Houston, and rushed from office early by saying my manager that my favorite musician is in City and I can't be in office under any case...He wished me good luck and gave send-off for the concert (how nice he is na!!) I prepared to break any rule to see ARR from near...but never expected such a mind blowing day I will be having.. The show was supposed to start at 9pm. I was there with one other rahmanaiac at the concert by 6pm. And I broke the first rule...I went directly before the stage...when I was entering, luckily rahman was not on the stage and he was coming for relaxation in the seating area. He sat there... I never gave any thought for a wait..I just went there..Completely in a shock...no words...Just told, Rahman ji, I am gr8 diehard fan of you..I just need one photograph and autograph from you you know, i met you already in unity of light concert in 2003, and this is the second time..and u donno that i touched you that day ;), he gave a smile...i donno what i was talking He is so down to earth...inspite of big tension before the concert starts(just 3 hours more...and nothing is been ready yet..) he said, Ok! and gave a small smile... We took one photo..and wanted a photograph with him...I sat beside him and i got it Then, Autograph...As I never expected, I could break the rule so easily...and I could meet ARR, I didnt carry anything to take an autograph... I asked him, if you dont mind could you please give autograph on my t-shirt which i am wearing, he asked surprisingly..this one?!...i told...Where? as it was black...and pen is also black... I showed him place, where can sign...his forehead...He gave it...uhmm.one deep breath...and he got call fro stage...he left the place..and never came down... I was just before the stage helping working guys in moving chairs etc and acting like i am a part of crew :)* *Rahman was looking at me in between...as I am continuously staring at him without moving my eyes...seem he was little bit in comfort..then I could see sivamani, rashid, naveen and ravi kiran very near to me.. and some time later almost all singers were also there on the stage...they were busy in doing their work shivamani was the entertainer for everyone with his dances and funny things..he makes laugh with everyone in the crew... Rashid ali...I had eye contact with him..asked him to come forward for a pic...he came...and asked who are we? I told, I am a gr8 fan of you also..i am also from hyderabad..I was there when you performed in unity of light concert in 2003, you sing very well also he was impressed and told, oh, you were there? good..and what were you doing here? I told I work here as a software engineer...he told good, and how come you are here? I told its the secret!!, I am a gr8 fan of Rahman...i could even tell i sweep hear--but the reason i came into is different ofcourse then Asked for a photograph with him...pleasantly he accepted and i had photo with him..and I said ok..thank you..he again went back to work And after that, I was moving hear and there...and rahman was also moving hear and there and helping everyone of the crew to setup their mikes properly.. then organizers came and offered some snacks for him..he took red bull...they came to me also, supposing that i am part of crew...i also took red bull(for the first time i am having red bull in life) naveen was also looking at me..and finally he smiled at methen i asked him to come close...he came.. I told, I was looking at you since long time, when you will come here he told suprisingly with a smile ohh.i am sorry! ohh..ok no problem..you are busy..i understand, and i told i am a great fan of you too..heard your fluid..its mind blowing...chennai rain was superb he thanked me..and so happy with my words.. asked for a snap..he put his hand on my shoulder very happily and gave fose for the photoso friendly... Then its the turn with Naresh Iyer...but he was looking at me strangely, like somewhere he saw me...I just called him to come closure and gave a shake hand thing is by that time...it is becoming busy...so i couldnt take a snap..I just told him you are a very good singer...i like your songs, wish you all the best he gave a cute smile
Re: [arr] RED BULL STORY (THOSE 3 HOURS BEFORE HOUSTON CONCERT WITH RAHMAN)
hey himmatwala u r damn lucky guy , man! u mwt him, had a photograph ,voww so lucy u r - Original Message From: Rahmaniac™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:47:04 AM Subject: [arr] RED BULL STORY (THOSE 3 HOURS BEFORE HOUSTON CONCERT WITH RAHMAN) Its cloudy evening in Houston, and rushed from office early by saying my manager that my favorite musician is in City and I can't be in office under any case...He wished me good luck and gave send-off for the concert (how nice he is na!!) I prepared to break any rule to see ARR from near...but never expected such a mind blowing day I will be having.. The show was supposed to start at 9pm. I was there with one other rahmanaiac at the concert by 6pm. And I broke the first rule...I went directly before the stage...when I was entering, luckily rahman was not on the stage and he was coming for relaxation in the seating area. He sat there... I never gave any thought for a wait..I just went there..Completely in a shock...no words...Just told, Rahman ji, I am gr8 diehard fan of you..I just need one photograph and autograph from you you know, i met you already in unity of light concert in 2003, and this is the second time..and u donno that i touched you that day ;), he gave a smile...i donno what i was talking He is so down to earth...inspite of big tension before the concert starts(just 3 hours more...and nothing is been ready yet..) he said, Ok! and gave a small smile... We took one photo..and wanted a photograph with him...I sat beside him and i got it Then, Autograph... As I never expected, I could break the rule so easily...and I could meet ARR, I didnt carry anything to take an autograph... I asked him, if you dont mind could you please give autograph on my t-shirt which i am wearing, he asked surprisingly. .this one?!...i told...Where? as it was black...and pen is also black... I showed him place, where can sign...his forehead...He gave it...uhmm... ..one deep breath...and he got call fro stage...he left the place..and never came down... I was just before the stage helping working guys in moving chairs etc and acting like i am a part of crew :) Rahman was looking at me in between...as I am continuously staring at him without moving my eyes...seem he was little bit in comfort..then I could see sivamani, rashid, naveen and ravi kiran very near to me.. and some time later almost all singers were also there on the stage...they were busy in doing their work shivamani was the entertainer for everyone with his dances and funny things..he makes laugh with everyone in the crew... Rashid ali...I had eye contact with him..asked him to come forward for a pic...he came...and asked who are we? I told, I am a gr8 fan of you also..i am also from hyderabad..I was there when you performed in unity of light concert in 2003, you sing very well also he was impressed and told, oh, you were there? good..and what were you doing here? I told I work here as a software engineer... he told good, and how come you are here? I told its the secret!!, I am a gr8 fan of Rahman...i could even tell i sweep hear--but the reason i came into is different ofcourse then Asked for a photograph with him...pleasantly he accepted and i had photo with him..and I said ok..thank you..he again went back to work And after that, I was moving hear and there...and rahman was also moving hear and there and helping everyone of the crew to setup their mikes properly.. then organizers came and offered some snacks for him..he took red bull...they came to me also, supposing that i am part of crew...i also took red bull(for the first time i am having red bull in life) naveen was also looking at me..and finally he smiled at methen i asked him to come close...he came.. I told, I was looking at you since long time, when you will come here he told suprisingly with a smile ohh.i am sorry! ohh..ok no problem..you are busy..i understand, and i told i am a great fan of you too..heard your fluid..its mind blowing...chennai rain was superb he thanked me..and so happy with my words.. asked for a snap..he put his hand on my shoulder very happily and gave fose for the photoso friendly... Then its the turn with Naresh Iyer...but he was looking at me strangely, like somewhere he saw me...I just called him to come closure and gave a shake hand thing is by that time...it is becoming busy...so i couldnt take a snap..I just told him you are a very good singer...i like your songs, wish you all the best he gave a cute smile and left place I went near sridhar...the busiest guy throughout the show...about to take a snap of him..he simply rejected it by saying...after! , i can understand how busy he might be...I asked at a wrong time...but i never felt bad...even if i was him, i could have done the same..such tensed the situation was..so, He helped naveen in setting up the mike..he is genius...he know how much angle
Re: [arr] RED BULL STORY (THOSE 3 HOURS BEFORE HOUSTON CONCERT WITH RAHMAN)
vijay, you are absolutely right..and that is what I wrote in the mail...where I couldnt help myself till that level..please go on reading this mail and previous mail again... I do understand that...Donno you read it completely or not, this is my experience with him and I could see that embarrassment in his eyes when I asked for it. I am writing this once more for you, please read it...even if, ARR would have told, NO!, i wouldn't have feet bad, I do understand situation (That is what happened in sridhar case, i havent felt bad about that...read it please)...but definitely I felt so happy that inspite of that tensed situation he agreed to take photograph with me..That is HIM...Yes...He is the MAN who is down to earth. please read this again.. I have so much to say, so many words which blocked my mind...and one All the best for the concert...but what I felt is, leave him alone to his state of mind is better..He knows...He is the best...and I thought I should stop with this activity, by seeing the face feeling in him (I do face reading :))...thats what I told in the mail.. I never gave any thought for a wait..I just went there..Completely in a shock...no words...Just told, Rahman ji, I am gr8 diehard fan of you..I just need one photograph and autograph from you you know, i met you already in unity of light concert in 2003, and this is the second time..and u donno that i touched you that day ;), he gave a smile...i donno what i was talking --Thats why i stopped talking further He is so down to earth...inspite of big tension before the concert starts(just 3 hours more...and nothing is been ready yet..) he said, Ok! and gave a small smile... We took one photo..and wanted a photograph with him...I sat beside him and i got it Then, Autograph... As I never expected, I could break the rule so easily...and I could meet ARR, I didnt carry anything to take an autograph... I asked him, if you dont mind could you please give autograph on my t-shirt which i am wearing, he asked surprisingly. .this one?!...i told...Where? as it was black...and pen is also black... I showed him place, where can sign...his forehead...He gave it...uhmm... ..one deep breath...and he got call fro stage...he left the place..and never came down... and one more.. Rahman was looking at me in between...as I am continuously staring at him without moving my eyes...seems he was little bit in comfort..then I could see sivamani, rashid, naveen and ravi kiran very near to me.. -- the in comfort is the reason I went to other musicians... Thats why I ask you to read once more to understand the inner meaning... Do you know because of the security breach that I did on that day, I could have been thrown out or arrested in the worst case, Its USA rules but I took that risk for Rahman. to see him, the savior, who is with me all the day in this lonely LIFE of USA. So for me, it is so memorable day. I am not saying taking autograph/photograph is our destination...may be that is just show-off with fellow rahmaniacs... but for me its a memory gift in a physical form. I hope, you understand this once by coming into a diehard fan perspectiveThats what ARR did on that day I hope, though the situation was embarrassing. ~~Rahmaniac™ SURESH~~ - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 6:37:15 AM Subject: Re: [arr] RED BULL STORY (THOSE 3 HOURS BEFORE HOUSTON CONCERT WITH RAHMAN) not that im not happy for u or the others who get to see and talk to a r rbut i personally feel we go overboard in the photograph autograph department without realising the frame of mind he may be in and that is quite a put off and embarrasing at times... .have experienced this personally too and when a r r asks me about these things dont know where to look . . Vijay _ Original message _ Subject:Re: [arr] RED BULL STORY (THOSE 3 HOURS BEFORE HOUSTON CONCERT WITH RAHMAN) Author: Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: 10th June 2007 8:48:43 AM simply awesome! u r the luckiest ever On 6/9/07, Rahmaniac™ himmathwala@ yahoo.co. in wrote: Its cloudy evening in Houston, and rushed from office early by saying my manager that my favorite musician is in City and I can't be in office under any case...He wished me good luck and gave send-off for the concert (how nice he is na!!) I prepared to break any rule to see ARR from near...but never expected such a mind blowing day I will be having.. The show was supposed to start at 9pm. I was there with one other rahmanaiac at the concert by 6pm. And I broke the first rule...I went directly before the stage...when I was entering, luckily rahman was not on the stage and he was coming for relaxation in the seating area. He sat there... I never gave any thought for a wait..I just went there..Completely in a shock
