[Assp-user] Virus detected smtp connection ?

2007-01-13 Thread Pascal Dreissen
Hi,

When there is a virus detected is the smtp connection with the sending 
host dropped ?
I am asking this because i got repeating virusses this morning from the 
same hosts. So it seems they are trying to send it again.

Also hosts which are running legimit mailsrvers (test server sendmail / 
kerio / domino / qmail etc..)

Also i am seeing this in the logging which looks like the connection 
isn't dropped at all and times out!

Jan-13-07 09:18:18 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Received-RBL: pass
Jan-13-07 09:18:18 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ClamAV: scanning WL=1:0 NP=1:0 LOCAL=1:
Jan-13-07 09:18:18 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ClamAV: scanning done FOUND Eicar-Test-Signature
Jan-13-07 09:18:18 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] virus detected 'Eicar-Test-Signature'
Jan-13-07 09:20:23 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Connection idle for 120 secs - timeout



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Re: [Assp-user] Virus detected smtp connection ?

2007-01-13 Thread Patrick Neill

Similar symptoms here. An E-mail with an Eicar signature has been bouncing
back and forth for four days.



Pascal Dreissen wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 When there is a virus detected is the smtp connection with the sending 
 host dropped ?
 I am asking this because i got repeating virusses this morning from the 
 same hosts. So it seems they are trying to send it again.
 
 Also hosts which are running legimit mailsrvers (test server sendmail / 
 kerio / domino / qmail etc..)
 
 Also i am seeing this in the logging which looks like the connection 
 isn't dropped at all and times out!
 
 Jan-13-07 09:18:18 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received-RBL: pass
 Jan-13-07 09:18:18 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ClamAV: scanning WL=1:0 NP=1:0 LOCAL=1:
 Jan-13-07 09:18:18 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ClamAV: scanning done FOUND Eicar-Test-Signature
 Jan-13-07 09:18:18 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus detected 'Eicar-Test-Signature'
 Jan-13-07 09:20:23 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Connection idle for 120 secs - timeout
 
 
 
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Re: [Assp-user] Virus detected smtp connection ?

2007-01-13 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt:
When there is a virus detected is the smtp connection with the
sending 
host dropped ?

They got the smtp error defined in viruserror

I am asking this because i got repeating virusses this morning from
the 
same hosts. So it seems they are trying to send it again.

?


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Re: [Assp-user] Virus detected smtp connection ?

2007-01-13 Thread Fritz Borgstedt


Similar symptoms here. An E-mail with an Eicar signature has been
bouncing
back and forth for four days.

ASSP does not bounce. ASSP returns the error you define.  So what do
think should ASSP do , to prevent the virus from coming again?

Should ASSP drop the connection without proper error message? Does
that prevent from resending ?


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Re: [Assp-user] Virus detected smtp connection ?

2007-01-13 Thread Patrick Neill

Matti, I just tried that and set the message to 554. The error message still
doesn't make it back to the sender Inbox. My test messages are sent from my
'home' ISP smarthost to ASSP at work. I know that my 'home' ISP also filter
e-mail for viruses. Could it be that my sending 'home' ISP is not letting
failed virus mails back into the inbox. I think that is something that
someone should test who has full control over both the sending and receiving
mailserver.



Matti Haack wrote:
 
 Mybe you should better send Error 554 (Transaction failed)
 instead of 500 (Command not recognized 'command')
 
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Re: [Assp-user] Virus detected smtp connection ?

2007-01-13 Thread Matti Haack
You are right - there is something wrong with the handling,
because the session is not closed after when a virus is
found.
The Error message is not send to the server.

You can easyly test this if you disable your desktop
email/virusscanner, create a textfile and put the eicar test
string into it:
[EMAIL PROTECTED](P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*
and save it as eicar.com
Now mail yourself the string directly to your assp server.
You will get a timeout, no 5xx error.


Jan-13-07 14:12:52 217.95.53.232  authenticated
Jan-13-07 14:12:52 217.95.53.232 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
recipient accepted: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan-13-07 14:12:52 217.95.53.232 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
virus detected 'Eicar-Test-Signature'
Jan-13-07 14:13:56 217.95.53.232 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Connection idle for 60 secs - timeout
Jan-13-07 14:13:56 217.95.53.232 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is 
disconnected

The corespondending TheBat! Log:
 13.01.2007, 14:12:50: SEND  - Sende Nachricht(en) - 1 Nachrichten in der 
Warteschlange
 13.01.2007, 14:12:51: SEND  - verbunden mit dem SMTP-Server
 13.01.2007, 14:12:52: SEND  - authentifizieren (Software CRAM-MD5)...
 13.01.2007, 14:12:52: SEND  - Sende Nachricht an [EMAIL PROTECTED]
!13.01.2007, 14:13:55: SEND  - Nachricht wurde nicht versandt. Server Antwort - 
Connection timeout, try later
!13.01.2007, 14:13:55: FETCH - Verbindung zum Host verloren (die letzten 
gesendeten Kommandos waren: DATA, RSET)
 13.01.2007, 14:13:55: SEND  - Verbindung beendet - 0 Nachrichten versandt
 13.01.2007, 14:13:55: SEND  - Einige Nachrichten wurden nicht versendet - 
prüfen Sie die Logdatei nach Informationen


Matti

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Re: [Assp-user] Virus detected smtp connection ?

2007-01-13 Thread Patrick Neill

a small detail in the recent releases: the reason for a failed helo is no
longer shown in the log files
it would be nice to have this back


Pascal Dreissen wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 When there is a virus detected is the smtp connection with the sending 
 host dropped ?
 I am asking this because i got repeating virusses this morning from the 
 same hosts. So it seems they are trying to send it again.
 
 Also hosts which are running legimit mailsrvers (test server sendmail / 
 kerio / domino / qmail etc..)
 
 Also i am seeing this in the logging which looks like the connection 
 isn't dropped at all and times out!
 
 Jan-13-07 09:18:18 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received-RBL: pass
 Jan-13-07 09:18:18 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ClamAV: scanning WL=1:0 NP=1:0 LOCAL=1:
 Jan-13-07 09:18:18 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ClamAV: scanning done FOUND Eicar-Test-Signature
 Jan-13-07 09:18:18 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus detected 'Eicar-Test-Signature'
 Jan-13-07 09:20:23 38.96.163.30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Connection idle for 120 secs - timeout
 
 
 
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[Assp-user] ASSP returns the error you define (was: Virus detected smtp connection)

2007-01-13 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
 ASSP does not bounce. ASSP returns the error you define.

Speaking of this; would it be possible to again have the ability to
customize the SPF message?  I think the most administrative overhead I
get from ASSP is from people not reading or understanding the SPF
response code.  I would really appreciate being able to customize that
message - preferably being able to add instructions for the sender to
contact their own email support, and not me!

Thanks for considering this.  I can certainly live with it if its too
much of a hassle.  I'm only thinking of how I could make ASSP more
hands-off with less administrative support requirements.

Thanks!
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Re: [Assp-user] Virus detected smtp connection ?

2007-01-13 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Matti Haack wrote:
 Mybe you should better send Error 554 (Transaction failed)
 instead of 500 (Command not recognized 'command')

I use:
~~~

550 5.7.7 [BLOCK REASON] Mail appears infected with '$infection'. Clean
and resend. This attempt has been logged.


Because (http://www.asspsmtp.org/wiki/SMTP_Error_Codes):
~~~

550 - Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable

/e.g., mailbox not found, no access, or command rejected for policy
reasons/


5.x.x - Permanent Failure
A failure which is not likely to be resolved by resending the
message in the current form. Some change to the message or the
destination must be made for successful delivery.


x.7.7 - Message integrity failure

A transport system otherwise authorized to validate a message was
unable to do so because the message was corrupted or altered. This
may be useful as a permanent, transient persistent, or successful
delivery code.






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Re: [Assp-user] Virus detected smtp connection ?

2007-01-13 Thread Fritz Borgstedt


a small detail in the recent releases: the reason for a failed helo
is no
longer shown in the log files
it would be nice to have this back

?


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Re: [Assp-user] Virus detected smtp connection ?

2007-01-13 Thread Patrick Neill

Previously the log entry for a failed Helo used to be as follows:

Jan-7-07 19:48:23 PB: 201.1.121.97 score: 0+25 = 25
reason:201.1.121.97:ValidHelo-Check
Jan-7-07 19:48:23 201.1.121.97 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Validate Sender:
Invalid HELO Format '201.1.121.97'  
Jan-7-07 19:48:32 PB: 24.61.137.244 score: 0+25 = 25
reason:24.61.137.244:ValidHelo-Check
Jan-7-07 19:48:32 24.61.137.244 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Validate Sender:
Invalid HELO Format '24.61.137.244'  
Jan-7-07 19:50:06 PB: 69.139.240.188 score: 0+25 = 25
reason:69.139.240.188:ValidHelo-Check
Jan-7-07 19:50:06 69.139.240.188 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Validate Sender:
Invalid HELO Format '69.139.240.188'  
Jan-7-07 19:50:19 PB: 89.32.34.231 score: 0+25 = 25
reason:89.32.34.231:ValidHelo-Check
Jan-7-07 19:50:19 89.32.34.231 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Validate Sender:
Invalid HELO Format '89.32.34.231'  


now I see only:


Jan-13-07 17:41:38 PB: 82.3.70.247 score: 0+25 = 25
reason:82.3.70.247:InvalidHelo-Check
Jan-13-07 17:41:38 PB: 82.3.70.247 score: 25+25 = 50
reason:82.3.70.247:InvalidHELO
Jan-13-07 17:44:53 PB: 88.229.251.138 score: 0+25 = 25
reason:88.229.251.138:ValidHelo-Check
Jan-13-07 17:44:53 PB: 88.229.251.138 score: 25+25 = 50
reason:88.229.251.138:InvalidHELO
Jan-13-07 17:45:02 PB: 88.229.251.138 score: 50+25 = 75
reason:88.229.251.138:ValidHelo-Check
Jan-13-07 17:45:02 PB: 88.229.251.138 score: 75+25 = 100
reason:88.229.251.138:InvalidHELO


I am missing the line telling me the (usually faked) sender and Invalid Helo
Format.




Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
 
 

a small detail in the recent releases: the reason for a failed helo
is no
longer shown in the log files
it would be nice to have this back
 
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Re: [Assp-user] Virus detected smtp connection ?

2007-01-13 Thread Fritz Borgstedt

I am missing the line telling me the (usually faked) sender and
Invalid Helo
Format.

Your logging is turned off for sender validation, turn it on.


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