[Assp-user] process order and cpu utilization

2007-01-23 Thread Marrco
it looks to me that cpu use has rised a little in the last few builds, and 
delaying triplests have doubled.

i think that's due to a change in processing order (maybe you put delaying 
before helo check) . Is that correct ?

(btw, i have have zero Invalid PTR: in my stats, so i can't tell if that 
works) 

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Re: [Assp-user] process order and cpu utilization

2007-01-23 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy
assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt:
it looks to me that cpu use has rised a little in the last few
builds, and 
delaying triplests have doubled.

i think that's due to a change in processing order (maybe you put
delaying 
before helo check) . Is that correct ?

ASSP is configuring the processing order itself. The general rule here
is, that  checks with collection option 6  are performed earlier and
that setting testmode for a check moves it to a later point.  To put
in real world: if you want to see CCSPAMALL from HELO checks you would
place them in collection modus 3 or 7, that would move the HELO checks
behind Delaying.


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Re: [Assp-user] process order and cpu utilization

2007-01-23 Thread Wim Borghs
2007/1/23, Marrco [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 (btw, i have have zero Invalid PTR: in my stats, so i can't tell if that
 works)

Have you searched your log for PTR missing?
Using ASSP v1.2.7.1(68) you should see something like:
Jan-23-07 hh:mm:ss 65.70.243.86 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender Validation:scoring + 5: PTR missing for
65.70.243.86
Jan-23-07 hh:mm:ss PB: 65.70.243.86 score: 20+5 = 25
reason:65.70.243.86:PTRmissing
(depending on your logging-settings...)

Do you have Reversed Lookup set to 3 = score only?
It won't count in the stats then. The mail may count as Penalty Box
Blocked or another spam hit or as Bayesian Ham...

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Re: [Assp-user] process order and cpu utilization

2007-01-23 Thread Fritz Borgstedt

(btw, i have have zero Invalid PTR: in my stats, so i can't tell if
that 
works) 

try the latest built (69)




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Re: [Assp-user] process order and cpu utilization

2007-01-23 Thread Marrco
  (btw, i have have zero Invalid PTR: in my stats, so i can't tell if 
  that
  works)
 Have you searched your log for PTR missing?

yes, ah i have them in my logs

 Do you have Reversed Lookup set to 3 = score only?
yes, that feature is working, adds score to the PB entry. but that's for 
missing ptr, not for an invalid one


i don't see in my Info and Stats is  Invalid PTR:

but i my config i have :

Reversed Lookup FQDN set to [1]
and
Expression to Invalidate Format of PTR*
set to : (file:invalidptr.txt)

^\d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+$|^[^\.]+\.?$
dynamic
ddns
localhost
^c-.*\.comcast\.net$
^(cpe|rrcs)-.*\.(biz|res)\.rr\.com$
^(pool|static)-.*\.verizon\.net$
\.abo\.wanadoo\.fr$
\.dhcp\..*\.charter\.com$
\.dynamic\.hinet\.net$
icip\.rima-tde\.net$
\.user\.veloxzone\.com\.br$
\.user\.veloxzone\.com\.br$
c.*\.virtua\.com\.br$
p.*\.dip\.t-dialin\.net$
\.(internetdsl|adsl)\.tpnet\.pl$
\.(adsl|fbx)\.proxad\.net$
^s[0-9].*\.shawcable\.net$
\.(onocable|user)\.ono\.com$
\.(pppoe|pptp)\.mtu-net\.ru$
pool.*\.uni2\.es$
-cust.*\.ntl\.com$
^bzq-.*\.bezeqint\.net$
\.(cable|stb)\.blueyonder\.co\.uk
\.(customer|dial-up|dsl)\.telesp\.net\.br$
-[0-9]{2,3}-.*\.qwest\.net\.br$
\.bb\.netvision\.net\.il$
\.(dsl|dial|ipd)\.brasiltelecom\.net\.br$
\.rev\.gaoland\.net$
\.pools\.arcor-ip\.net$
(ppp|static|revip).*\.asianet.co.th$


and it used to work, many builds ago..

now i can't tell if that feature is broken 1.2.7.1(68), or i'm not receiving 
spam triggering that check, or i did something in my config to disable that 
filter. 

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Re: [Assp-user] process order and cpu utilization

2007-01-23 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
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assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt:
now i can't tell if that feature is broken 1.2.7.1(68), or i'm not
receiving 
spam triggering that check, or i did something in my config to
disable that 
filter. 


The feature was broken and is back now even better: you can now decide
to just validate the PTR without setting Lookup for Missing PTR to be
active. ))


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Re: [Assp-user] process order and cpu utilization

2007-01-23 Thread Marrco
 
 The feature was broken and is back now even better: you can now decide
 to just validate the PTR without setting Lookup for Missing PTR to be
 active. ))
 

fritz, you're da man !

confirmed working in (69) 

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Re: [Assp-user] Process order]

2007-01-11 Thread Andreas Krüger
I am not sure i understand this correct. If my server has a local
domain/hostname of etc. domain.com, then helo domain.com would be
forged or what?

on 10-01-2007 22:24 Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
 Furthers, what is a forged helo?
 An invalid HELO greeting messsage used by SMTP servers.
 ASSP has an option to check connecting servers helo messages against
 the 
 rfcs and optionally penalize them for having an invalid one.
 Personally 
 I find this blocks more spambots.
 
 
 A forged helo is different from an invalid helo.
 
 ASSP uses the local domain list and Local Host Names to block sender
 which uses local domains and local hostnamesnr in their helo. That
 helo is surely forged. 
 
 
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Re: [Assp-user] Process order]

2007-01-11 Thread Marrco
From: Andreas Krüger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am not sure i understand this correct. If my server has a local
 domain/hostname of etc. domain.com, then helo domain.com would be
 forged or what?

short answer : yes, that's forged. 

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Re: [Assp-user] Process order

2007-01-11 Thread Andreas Krüger
But if my server hosts several domain names for email accounts, wouldn't
they be local domains?

Etc, kruger.nu is my domain, which i use for my email address, my server
hosts this domain, so aren't this a local domain name?

on 11-01-2007 15:30 Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreibt:
 I am not sure i understand this correct. If my server has a local
 domain/hostname of etc. domain.com, then helo domain.com would be
 forged or what?
 
 yes, it is forged. Why should a foreign host use your domain?
 
 
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Re: [Assp-user] Process order

2007-01-11 Thread Dan Ratzlaff
 But if my server hosts several domain names for email 
 accounts, wouldn't
 they be local domains?
 
 Etc, kruger.nu is my domain, which i use for my email 
 address, my server
 hosts this domain, so aren't this a local domain name?

Yes.  And if someone else's server identifies itself as kruger.nu while
trying to send mail to you, obviously that's forged.  They're not kruger.nu,
you are. :)

Personally, I get more 'localhost' helos than anything.  All of them get
blocked.


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Re: [Assp-user] Process order]

2007-01-11 Thread Andreas Krüger
But if my server hosts several domain names for email accounts, wouldn't
they be local domains?

Etc, kruger.nu is my domain, which i use for my email address, my server
hosts this domain, so aren't this a local domain name?

on 11-01-2007 15:36 Marrco wrote:
 From: Andreas Krüger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I am not sure i understand this correct. If my server has a local
 domain/hostname of etc. domain.com, then helo domain.com would be
 forged or what?
 
 short answer : yes, that's forged.


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Re: [Assp-user] Process order]

2007-01-10 Thread Andreas Krüger
I was trying that, but i dont understand the extreme blocking for the
penalty box.

Furthers, what is a forged helo?

And lastly, what is the RBL cache for?

Andreas

on 10-01-2007 02:01 Micheal Espinola Jr (mobile) wrote:
 You could match them to the options listed in the web interface menu.
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_Kr=FCger?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tuesday, Jan 9, 2007 7:48 pm
 Subject: [Assp-user] Process order
 
 Hello,
 
 I am sitting here and reading the process order for an email when it runs 
 trough ASSP, and i was wondering what these things is, and what
 they do?
 
 * PenaltyExtreme - Penalty Box extreme blocking
 * ForgedHELO - forged HELO detection (built-in)
 * DoRBLCache - caching and reuse of prior DNSBL/RBL hits
 * DoFakedLocalHelo - verify HELO against localDomains
 * DoNoValidLocalSender - block spoofed sender addresses
 * DoNoSpoofing - block spoofed localDomains
 
 I don't understand what happens in these processes, could someone
 explain them to me?
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Andreas


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Re: [Assp-user] Process order]

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin
Andreas Krüger wrote:
 I was trying that, but i dont understand the extreme blocking for the
 penalty box.

If you will look in the Penalty Box configuration options you will note 
an Extreme Threshold option. When IP addresses reach a PB score 
matching or exceeding that option the IP is recorded to the extreme file 
and they are blocked for the amount of time set in the option labeled 
Expiration Time for Extreme Denials.

 Furthers, what is a forged helo?

An invalid HELO greeting messsage used by SMTP servers.
ASSP has an option to check connecting servers helo messages against the 
rfcs and optionally penalize them for having an invalid one. Personally 
I find this blocks more spambots.

 And lastly, what is the RBL cache for?

Rather than checking the RBL servers each time we get a connection ASSP 
caches the results for ip's that have had posistive hits for an ammount 
of time specified in the admin interface. RBL cache hits are when ASSP 
has the IP address in it's cache from a previous RBL check. This saves 
processing time as you do not have to wait for a DNS response for each 
and every connection.


That should cover those questions for the most part.

Kevin

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Re: [Assp-user] Process order]

2007-01-10 Thread Fritz Borgstedt

 Furthers, what is a forged helo?

An invalid HELO greeting messsage used by SMTP servers.
ASSP has an option to check connecting servers helo messages against
the 
rfcs and optionally penalize them for having an invalid one.
Personally 
I find this blocks more spambots.


A forged helo is different from an invalid helo.

ASSP uses the local domain list and Local Host Names to block sender
which uses local domains and local hostnamesnr in their helo. That
helo is surely forged. 


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Re: [Assp-user] Process order]

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin
Fritz Borgstedt wrote:
 Furthers, what is a forged helo?
 An invalid HELO greeting messsage used by SMTP servers.
 ASSP has an option to check connecting servers helo messages against
 the 
 rfcs and optionally penalize them for having an invalid one.
 Personally 
 I find this blocks more spambots.
 
 
 A forged helo is different from an invalid helo.
 

whoops. missed that :(
/me slinks off to corner in shame

Kevin

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[Assp-user] Process order

2007-01-09 Thread Andreas Krüger
Hello,

I am sitting here and reading the process order for an email when it
runs trough ASSP, and i was wondering what these things is, and what
they do?

* PenaltyExtreme - Penalty Box extreme blocking
* ForgedHELO - forged HELO detection (built-in)
* DoRBLCache - caching and reuse of prior DNSBL/RBL hits
* DoFakedLocalHelo - verify HELO against localDomains
* DoNoValidLocalSender - block spoofed sender addresses
* DoNoSpoofing - block spoofed localDomains

I don't understand what happens in these processes, could someone
explain them to me?


Regards,

Andreas

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