[on-asterisk] Wrong dynamic agent on Queue list

2009-03-05 Thread Bruce N

Hello again,
 
Everytime you provide a feature, even if it's simple as ABC, be prepared for 
the user to do the worst out of it :) 
 
Here is CLI loggings. How can you explain this:
 
localhost*CLI queue show
500  has 0 calls (max unlimited) in 'leastrecent' strategy (10s 
holdtime), W:0, C:9, A:0, SL:0.0% within 0s
   Members: I
  Agent/337 (Unavailable) has taken no calls yet
  Agent/335 (Unavailable) has taken no calls yet
  Local/0...@from-internal/n (dynamic) (Not in use) has taken 1 calls (last 
was 1261 secs ago)
  Agent/334 (Unavailable) has taken no calls yet
  Agent/333 (Unavailable) has taken no calls yet
  Agent/332 (Unavailable) has taken no calls yet
  Agent/331 (Unavailable) has taken no calls yet
  Local/3...@from-internal/n (dynamic) (Not in use) has taken 2 calls (last 
was 718 secs ago)
  Local/3...@from-internal/n (dynamic) (Not in use) has taken 2 calls (last 
was 272 secs ago)
  Local/3...@from-internal/n (dynamic) (Not in use) has taken 11 calls 
(last was 1115 secs ago)
  Local/3...@from-internal/n (dynamic) (Not in use) has taken 1 calls (last 
was 1361 secs ago)
  Local/3...@from-internal/n (dynamic) (Not in use) has taken 2 calls (last 
was 886 secs ago)
  Agent/341 (Unavailable) has taken no calls yet
  Agent/340 (Unavailable) has taken no calls yet
  Local/344...@from-internal/n (dynamic) (Not in use) has taken no calls yet
  Agent/339 (Unavailable) has taken no calls yet
  Agent/338 (Unavailable) has taken no calls yet
   No Callers
localhost*CLI
default  has 0 calls (max unlimited) in 'ringall' strategy (0s holdtime), 
W:0, C:0, A:0, SL:0.0% within 0s
   No Members
   No Callers
localhost*CLI
localhost*CLI queue remove member Local/344334 from 500
Unable to remove interface 'Local/344334' from queue '500': Not there
localhost*CLI queue remove member 344334 from 500
Unable to remove interface '344334' from queue '500': Not there
localhost*CLI queue remove member 0 from 500
Unable to remove interface '0' from queue '500': Not there
 
Extensions 0 and 344334 are neither real extensions nor dynamic agent 
configured in agents.conf. Does this mean that someone actually tried 500*0 and 
500*344334? If yes, why can't I remove by using queue remove member command?
 
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[on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded calls/Monitoring?

2009-03-05 Thread Bruce N

Hello Everyone,
 
I have a problem with an Elastix system where all calls are recorded yet they 
are not shown in a proper list on the web GUI. For example instead of showing 
calls 1-15 out of 2000 I see only 1 call displayed. If I press Next, I see 
16-31 out of 2000 and still 1 recorded msg displayed. This is PBX Monitoring 
section. I check /var/spool/asterisk/monitor and all calls are there. Also, 
call reports are just find. It seems to me that something in the html page 
prevents it from displaying all the calls. I am including a URL of the snapshot 
here:
 
http://elastrix.googlepages.com/snapShot.jpg/snapShot-full;init:.jpg
 
 
 
Thanks,
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RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded calls/Monitoring?

2009-03-05 Thread Farhan Sabir

I have used monitoring and it works just fine including all the reports. If all 
the wav files are present, i doubt there is something wrong with the database 
recording the call data. Or someone might have deleted the records from web 
interface manually.

 

If you delete the displayed data, only the database records are erased and not 
teh actual wav files. You can check the DB manually.

 

Regards

Farhan
 
 From: het...@hotmail.com
 To: asterisk@uc.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:42:42 -0500
 Subject: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded 
 calls/Monitoring?
 
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I have a problem with an Elastix system where all calls are recorded yet they 
 are not shown in a proper list on the web GUI. For example instead of showing 
 calls 1-15 out of 2000 I see only 1 call displayed. If I press Next, I see 
 16-31 out of 2000 and still 1 recorded msg displayed. This is PBX 
 Monitoring section. I check /var/spool/asterisk/monitor and all calls are 
 there. Also, call reports are just find. It seems to me that something in the 
 html page prevents it from displaying all the calls. I am including a URL of 
 the snapshot here:
 
 http://elastrix.googlepages.com/snapShot.jpg/snapShot-full;init:.jpg
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 Bruce
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[on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Dean Yorke

Hi All,

I know that this might be a little off topic but...

Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between an  
analogue line and a local loop line from bell.


we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine and  
personal install alarm system) that are having issues communicating on  
these lines.


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Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Andre Courchesne

Hi Dean,

 I think local loop refers to a dry-loop so you do not have a dialtone 
on those lines thus they can only be used for DSL services...


Dean Yorke wrote:

Hi All,

I know that this might be a little off topic but...

Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between an 
analogue line and a local loop line from bell.


we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine and 
personal install alarm system) that are having issues communicating on 
these lines.


Thanks


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Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Douglas Pickett

Dean,
To me at least an analogue line is the traditional home telephone line - if 
you can plug a regular home telephone in and get a dialtone, that's it.


Some alarm systems - to my understanding usually places like banks or 
jewellery stores - have a special service (I don't recall the official name) 
which is an always open connection from your alarm panel back to a receiver 
at an alarm company with a continuous heartbeat to overcome the possibility 
of someone just cutting the line.  These don't have dialtone.


Assuming that you have just an ordinary PSTN analogue line, is it possible 
that the line is also being used for a DSL service?  If you don't have a 
suitable line filter to block the high frequency DSL information I could 
understand that there would be issues with devices like alarm panels, fax 
machines, and such.


Some DSL services are delivered on a dedicated local loop - ie a pair of 
copper wires from your premises back to the nearest CO - that does not try 
piggy-back regular voice service on the single pair of copper wires.


Hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Doug.


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To: asterisk Mailing asterisk@uc.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:29 PM
Subject: [on-asterisk] alarm systems



Hi All,

I know that this might be a little off topic but...

Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between an 
analogue line and a local loop line from bell.


we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine and 
personal install alarm system) that are having issues communicating on 
these lines.


Thanks


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Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Dean Yorke
Sorry, local loop line is a service that has call features like call  
forwarding and call display and caller id.


but it is different that the service for a standard bell line like  
home.  I think it has a little digital service.


Thanks

On 5-Mar-09, at 4:33 PM, Andre Courchesne wrote:


Hi Dean,

I think local loop refers to a dry-loop so you do not have a  
dialtone on those lines thus they can only be used for DSL services...


Dean Yorke wrote:

Hi All,

I know that this might be a little off topic but...

Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between  
an analogue line and a local loop line from bell.


we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine  
and personal install alarm system) that are having issues  
communicating on these lines.


Thanks


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Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Dean Yorke
Your referring to a DVAC line, this is digital direct connect to the  
monitor company.  This is not that.


It is bell services.  Yes, you can plug in a standard analogue phone  
to is and make it work.  The issue is that the local loop has some  
digital qualities to it.  Just trying to figure out what those are.


The mailing machine in peticular looks for squelch on the lines.  And  
I believe that over fxs to voip this is an issue.  just wondering if  
that is the same with bells Local Loop offering.



On 5-Mar-09, at 5:40 PM, Douglas Pickett wrote:


Dean,
To me at least an analogue line is the traditional home telephone  
line - if you can plug a regular home telephone in and get a  
dialtone, that's it.


Some alarm systems - to my understanding usually places like banks  
or jewellery stores - have a special service (I don't recall the  
official name) which is an always open connection from your alarm  
panel back to a receiver at an alarm company with a continuous  
heartbeat to overcome the possibility of someone just cutting the  
line.  These don't have dialtone.


Assuming that you have just an ordinary PSTN analogue line, is it  
possible that the line is also being used for a DSL service?  If you  
don't have a suitable line filter to block the high frequency DSL  
information I could understand that there would be issues with  
devices like alarm panels, fax machines, and such.


Some DSL services are delivered on a dedicated local loop - ie a  
pair of copper wires from your premises back to the nearest CO -  
that does not try piggy-back regular voice service on the single  
pair of copper wires.


Hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Doug.


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To: asterisk Mailing asterisk@uc.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:29 PM
Subject: [on-asterisk] alarm systems



Hi All,

I know that this might be a little off topic but...

Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between  
an analogue line and a local loop line from bell.


we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine  
and personal install alarm system) that are having issues  
communicating on these lines.


Thanks


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RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded calls/Monitoring?

2009-03-05 Thread Bruce N

Thanks for the feedback Farhan. 
 
I doubt anyone deletes the displayed data. I can even check the recordings from 
the last hour and they are still not there. It's probably not getting written 
to the DB in the first place. How can I query the DB for recorded files? or if 
they are deleted is there any way that I can insert them back quickly?
 
Also, wondering if anyone has a nice page for displaying all calls recorded in 
/var/spool/asterisk/monitor via apache directory browsing or mond_autoindex?
 
Regards,
Bruce
 
 

 From: farhansa...@hotmail.com
 To: het...@hotmail.com; asterisk@uc.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:06:42 -0500
 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded 
 calls/Monitoring?
 
 
 I have used monitoring and it works just fine including all the reports. If 
 all the wav files are present, i doubt there is something wrong with the 
 database recording the call data. Or someone might have deleted the records 
 from web interface manually.
 
 
 
 If you delete the displayed data, only the database records are erased and 
 not teh actual wav files. You can check the DB manually.
 
 
 
 Regards
 
 Farhan
 
 From: het...@hotmail.com
 To: asterisk@uc.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:42:42 -0500
 Subject: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded 
 calls/Monitoring?
 
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I have a problem with an Elastix system where all calls are recorded yet 
 they are not shown in a proper list on the web GUI. For example instead of 
 showing calls 1-15 out of 2000 I see only 1 call displayed. If I press 
 Next, I see 16-31 out of 2000 and still 1 recorded msg displayed. This is 
 PBX Monitoring section. I check /var/spool/asterisk/monitor and all calls 
 are there. Also, call reports are just find. It seems to me that something 
 in the html page prevents it from displaying all the calls. I am including a 
 URL of the snapshot here:
 
 http://elastrix.googlepages.com/snapShot.jpg/snapShot-full;init:.jpg
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 Bruce
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RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded calls/Monitoring?

2009-03-05 Thread Bruce N

As I thought, this turned out to be a bug. I filed a bug for it here:
 
http://bugs.elastix.org/view.php?id=16
 
The issue arises if one creates a username for each extension and then assign 
them a group other than Administrator. Apparently there is a pging problem. 
Problem with assigning Administrator privilage to each user as you know is a 
security risk and a headache as each rep will have the potential of changing 
the guts of the system. 
 
 
-Bruce


 From: het...@hotmail.com
 To: farhansa...@hotmail.com; asterisk@uc.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:13:39 -0500
 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded 
 calls/Monitoring?


 Thanks for the feedback Farhan.

 I doubt anyone deletes the displayed data. I can even check the recordings 
 from the last hour and they are still not there. It's probably not getting 
 written to the DB in the first place. How can I query the DB for recorded 
 files? or if they are deleted is there any way that I can insert them back 
 quickly?

 Also, wondering if anyone has a nice page for displaying all calls recorded 
 in /var/spool/asterisk/monitor via apache directory browsing or 
 mond_autoindex?

 Regards,
 Bruce



 From: farhansa...@hotmail.com
 To: het...@hotmail.com; asterisk@uc.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:06:42 -0500
 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded 
 calls/Monitoring?


 I have used monitoring and it works just fine including all the reports. If 
 all the wav files are present, i doubt there is something wrong with the 
 database recording the call data. Or someone might have deleted the records 
 from web interface manually.



 If you delete the displayed data, only the database records are erased and 
 not teh actual wav files. You can check the DB manually.



 Regards

 Farhan

 From: het...@hotmail.com
 To: asterisk@uc.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:42:42 -0500
 Subject: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded 
 calls/Monitoring?


 Hello Everyone,

 I have a problem with an Elastix system where all calls are recorded yet 
 they are not shown in a proper list on the web GUI. For example instead of 
 showing calls 1-15 out of 2000 I see only 1 call displayed. If I press 
 Next, I see 16-31 out of 2000 and still 1 recorded msg displayed. This is 
 PBX Monitoring section. I check /var/spool/asterisk/monitor and all calls 
 are there. Also, call reports are just find. It seems to me that something 
 in the html page prevents it from displaying all the calls. I am including 
 a URL of the snapshot here:

 http://elastrix.googlepages.com/snapShot.jpg/snapShot-full;init:.jpg



 Thanks,
 Bruce
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RE: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Bill Sandiford
I think you mean Local Link line which is a POTS service offered by Bell.  It 
is an analog line, it is not digital.

-Original Message-
From: Dean Yorke [mailto:dean.yo...@xyc.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:47 PM
To: Andre Courchesne
Cc: asterisk Mailing
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

Sorry, local loop line is a service that has call features like call  
forwarding and call display and caller id.

but it is different that the service for a standard bell line like  
home.  I think it has a little digital service.

Thanks

On 5-Mar-09, at 4:33 PM, Andre Courchesne wrote:

 Hi Dean,

 I think local loop refers to a dry-loop so you do not have a  
 dialtone on those lines thus they can only be used for DSL services...

 Dean Yorke wrote:
 Hi All,

 I know that this might be a little off topic but...

 Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between  
 an analogue line and a local loop line from bell.

 we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine  
 and personal install alarm system) that are having issues  
 communicating on these lines.

 Thanks


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RE: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Bruce N

A local loop can also be a line that passes by Bell Canada switch but 
eventually gets the dialtone from localcomp (local competitor like Rogers) as 
Bell Canada techs term it. Bell Canada provides the line and the line to goes 
through their switch in order for them to be able to test the circuit when 
needed. I believe localcomps then interconnect at CO. Otherwise at OPI or JIWI 
it's still Bell's equipment. Who do you pay your bills to? Bell Canada?


 From: b...@telnetcommunications.com
 To: dean.yo...@xyc.ca; courc...@net-forces.com
 CC: asterisk@uc.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:26:29 -0500
 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

 I think you mean Local Link line which is a POTS service offered by Bell. 
 It is an analog line, it is not digital.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dean Yorke [mailto:dean.yo...@xyc.ca]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:47 PM
 To: Andre Courchesne
 Cc: asterisk Mailing
 Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

 Sorry, local loop line is a service that has call features like call
 forwarding and call display and caller id.

 but it is different that the service for a standard bell line like
 home. I think it has a little digital service.

 Thanks

 On 5-Mar-09, at 4:33 PM, Andre Courchesne wrote:

 Hi Dean,

 I think local loop refers to a dry-loop so you do not have a
 dialtone on those lines thus they can only be used for DSL services...

 Dean Yorke wrote:
 Hi All,

 I know that this might be a little off topic but...

 Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between
 an analogue line and a local loop line from bell.

 we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine
 and personal install alarm system) that are having issues
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RE: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Chuck Mariotti
Dean,

Take this with some salt... I am no guru on this stuff but for some reason my 
brain is popping into my head the word 'closed loop'? I think this is something 
specific for Alarms... it's been like 15 years since I was involved with an 
installation on one.

If I recall, it was a way to wire the Alarm jack (or a special RJ-?? jack) that 
cuts off communication if the line is picked up at that jack. I assume so 
someone can't trip the alarm and just pickup the phone and screw up 
dialing/communications to the alarm company to report a trip. This is why you 
have to wait a minute or two to be able to make a phone call when an alarm 
triggers.

That's the only thing I can think of, maybe this will trigger someone else to 
chime in and say I'm completely wrong.


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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:29 PM
To: asterisk Mailing
Subject: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

Hi All,

I know that this might be a little off topic but...

Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between an  
analogue line and a local loop line from bell.

we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine and  
personal install alarm system) that are having issues communicating on  
these lines.

Thanks


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Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Dean Yorke

yes this is what i am talking about?

is there any difference with a standard analogue line?

also, anyone have any luck with a postal machine working over ata and  
voip lines?


thanks for the responses!


On 5-Mar-09, at 8:26 PM, Bill Sandiford wrote:

I think you mean Local Link line which is a POTS service offered  
by Bell.  It is an analog line, it is not digital.


-Original Message-
From: Dean Yorke [mailto:dean.yo...@xyc.ca]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:47 PM
To: Andre Courchesne
Cc: asterisk Mailing
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

Sorry, local loop line is a service that has call features like call
forwarding and call display and caller id.

but it is different that the service for a standard bell line like
home.  I think it has a little digital service.

Thanks

On 5-Mar-09, at 4:33 PM, Andre Courchesne wrote:


Hi Dean,

I think local loop refers to a dry-loop so you do not have a
dialtone on those lines thus they can only be used for DSL  
services...


Dean Yorke wrote:

Hi All,

I know that this might be a little off topic but...

Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between
an analogue line and a local loop line from bell.

we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine
and personal install alarm system) that are having issues
communicating on these lines.

Thanks


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[on-asterisk] lookng for person in alberta

2009-03-05 Thread Dean Yorke

hi all,

i have a friend in calgary looking to upgrade thier phone system.   
they are being pitched an avaya IP office.


anyone interested in some work?

may need some little bits of customization.  client also interested in  
voip or PRI.  client currently has 8 lines - 6 voice and 2 fax.


speak up if interested...


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RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded calls/Monitoring?

2009-03-05 Thread Farhan Sabir

Hi Bruce,

 

The call data should also be available in 

/var/log/asterisk/cdr-csv/Master.csv

 

The calls should have a unique id ... something like 1235974634.21 which might 
help you point to the actual recording file. But i am not sure about this.

 

I read you mail about the bug. As i told you i have been using Elastix since 
0.92 and presently on Elastix 1.3 stable. I never had that problem. However, it 
may still be bug. I was thinking it should either not save any data at all, or 
should store all the data - a bit confusing with some of data written saved ot 
DB and some of it is missing.

 

Farhan

 
 From: het...@hotmail.com
 To: farhansa...@hotmail.com; asterisk@uc.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:13:39 -0500
 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded 
 calls/Monitoring?
 
 
 Thanks for the feedback Farhan. 
 
 I doubt anyone deletes the displayed data. I can even check the recordings 
 from the last hour and they are still not there. It's probably not getting 
 written to the DB in the first place. How can I query the DB for recorded 
 files? or if they are deleted is there any way that I can insert them back 
 quickly?
 
 Also, wondering if anyone has a nice page for displaying all calls recorded 
 in /var/spool/asterisk/monitor via apache directory browsing or 
 mond_autoindex?
 
 Regards,
 Bruce
 
 
 
  From: farhansa...@hotmail.com
  To: het...@hotmail.com; asterisk@uc.org
  Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:06:42 -0500
  Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen 
  recorded calls/Monitoring?
  
  
  I have used monitoring and it works just fine including all the reports. If 
  all the wav files are present, i doubt there is something wrong with the 
  database recording the call data. Or someone might have deleted the records 
  from web interface manually.
  
  
  
  If you delete the displayed data, only the database records are erased and 
  not teh actual wav files. You can check the DB manually.
  
  
  
  Regards
  
  Farhan
  
  From: het...@hotmail.com
  To: asterisk@uc.org
  Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:42:42 -0500
  Subject: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded 
  calls/Monitoring?
  
  
  Hello Everyone,
  
  I have a problem with an Elastix system where all calls are recorded yet 
  they are not shown in a proper list on the web GUI. For example instead of 
  showing calls 1-15 out of 2000 I see only 1 call displayed. If I press 
  Next, I see 16-31 out of 2000 and still 1 recorded msg displayed. This 
  is PBX Monitoring section. I check /var/spool/asterisk/monitor and all 
  calls are there. Also, call reports are just find. It seems to me that 
  something in the html page prevents it from displaying all the calls. I am 
  including a URL of the snapshot here:
  
  http://elastrix.googlepages.com/snapShot.jpg/snapShot-full;init:.jpg
  
  
  
  Thanks,
  Bruce
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RE: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Bill Sandiford
Dean:

The only difference is the features that are included.  It is still a regular 
analogue line served off the same equipment at the Bell CO as every other line.

Regards,
Bill

-Original Message-
From: Dean Yorke [mailto:dean.yo...@xyc.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:20 PM
To: Bill Sandiford
Cc: 'Andre Courchesne'; 'asterisk Mailing'
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

yes this is what i am talking about?

is there any difference with a standard analogue line?

also, anyone have any luck with a postal machine working over ata and  
voip lines?

thanks for the responses!


On 5-Mar-09, at 8:26 PM, Bill Sandiford wrote:

 I think you mean Local Link line which is a POTS service offered  
 by Bell.  It is an analog line, it is not digital.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dean Yorke [mailto:dean.yo...@xyc.ca]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:47 PM
 To: Andre Courchesne
 Cc: asterisk Mailing
 Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

 Sorry, local loop line is a service that has call features like call
 forwarding and call display and caller id.

 but it is different that the service for a standard bell line like
 home.  I think it has a little digital service.

 Thanks

 On 5-Mar-09, at 4:33 PM, Andre Courchesne wrote:

 Hi Dean,

 I think local loop refers to a dry-loop so you do not have a
 dialtone on those lines thus they can only be used for DSL  
 services...

 Dean Yorke wrote:
 Hi All,

 I know that this might be a little off topic but...

 Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between
 an analogue line and a local loop line from bell.

 we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine
 and personal install alarm system) that are having issues
 communicating on these lines.

 Thanks


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RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded calls/Monitoring?

2009-03-05 Thread Bruce N

Thanks for the input again. If I assign Administrator privilage everything 
shows up just nicely but then all calls are mixed so everyone can listen to 
others conversation. If any other privilage other than Administrator is 
assigned I see this behaviour. I checked and double checked the .csv file and 
can't see anything wrong; all in right place. Let's see what paloSantos come up 
with.
 
Thanks,
Bruce


 From: farhansa...@hotmail.com
 To: het...@hotmail.com; asterisk@uc.org
 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded 
 calls/Monitoring?
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 22:45:47 -0500








 Hi Bruce,



 The call data should also be available in

 /var/log/asterisk/cdr-csv/Master.csv



 The calls should have a unique id ... something like 1235974634.21 which 
 might help you point to the actual recording file. But i am not sure about 
 this.



 I read you mail about the bug. As i told you i have been using Elastix since 
 0.92 and presently on Elastix 1.3 stable. I never had that problem. However, 
 it may still be bug. I was thinking it should either not save any data at 
 all, or should store all the data - a bit confusing with some of data written 
 saved ot DB and some of it is missing.



 Farhan


 From: het...@hotmail.com
 To: farhansa...@hotmail.com; asterisk@uc.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:13:39 -0500
 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded 
 calls/Monitoring?


 Thanks for the feedback Farhan.

 I doubt anyone deletes the displayed data. I can even check the recordings 
 from the last hour and they are still not there. It's probably not getting 
 written to the DB in the first place. How can I query the DB for recorded 
 files? or if they are deleted is there any way that I can insert them back 
 quickly?

 Also, wondering if anyone has a nice page for displaying all calls recorded 
 in /var/spool/asterisk/monitor via apache directory browsing or 
 mond_autoindex?

 Regards,
 Bruce



 From: farhansa...@hotmail.com
 To: het...@hotmail.com; asterisk@uc.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:06:42 -0500
 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen 
 recorded calls/Monitoring?


 I have used monitoring and it works just fine including all the reports. If 
 all the wav files are present, i doubt there is something wrong with the 
 database recording the call data. Or someone might have deleted the records 
 from web interface manually.



 If you delete the displayed data, only the database records are erased and 
 not teh actual wav files. You can check the DB manually.



 Regards

 Farhan

 From: het...@hotmail.com
 To: asterisk@uc.org
 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:42:42 -0500
 Subject: [on-asterisk] Any using Elastix has had problem listen recorded 
 calls/Monitoring?


 Hello Everyone,

 I have a problem with an Elastix system where all calls are recorded yet 
 they are not shown in a proper list on the web GUI. For example instead of 
 showing calls 1-15 out of 2000 I see only 1 call displayed. If I press 
 Next, I see 16-31 out of 2000 and still 1 recorded msg displayed. This 
 is PBX Monitoring section. I check /var/spool/asterisk/monitor and all 
 calls are there. Also, call reports are just find. It seems to me that 
 something in the html page prevents it from displaying all the calls. I am 
 including a URL of the snapshot here:

 http://elastrix.googlepages.com/snapShot.jpg/snapShot-full;init:.jpg



 Thanks,
 Bruce
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Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd
I am also interested to  know how the postal machine through voip lines. In
the past I tried several times no luck. Any one share your experience.

Lloyd




On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Bill Sandiford 
b...@telnetcommunications.com wrote:

 Dean:

 The only difference is the features that are included.  It is still a
 regular analogue line served off the same equipment at the Bell CO as every
 other line.

 Regards,
 Bill

 -Original Message-
 From: Dean Yorke [mailto:dean.yo...@xyc.ca]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:20 PM
 To: Bill Sandiford
 Cc: 'Andre Courchesne'; 'asterisk Mailing'
 Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

 yes this is what i am talking about?

 is there any difference with a standard analogue line?

 also, anyone have any luck with a postal machine working over ata and
 voip lines?

 thanks for the responses!


 On 5-Mar-09, at 8:26 PM, Bill Sandiford wrote:

  I think you mean Local Link line which is a POTS service offered
  by Bell.  It is an analog line, it is not digital.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dean Yorke [mailto:dean.yo...@xyc.ca]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:47 PM
  To: Andre Courchesne
  Cc: asterisk Mailing
  Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems
 
  Sorry, local loop line is a service that has call features like call
  forwarding and call display and caller id.
 
  but it is different that the service for a standard bell line like
  home.  I think it has a little digital service.
 
  Thanks
 
  On 5-Mar-09, at 4:33 PM, Andre Courchesne wrote:
 
  Hi Dean,
 
  I think local loop refers to a dry-loop so you do not have a
  dialtone on those lines thus they can only be used for DSL
  services...
 
  Dean Yorke wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I know that this might be a little off topic but...
 
  Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between
  an analogue line and a local loop line from bell.
 
  we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine
  and personal install alarm system) that are having issues
  communicating on these lines.
 
  Thanks
 
 
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Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Henry L.Coleman
Analog line refers to a standard 600ohm-48v line as opposed to a VoIP 
(data)line.
Local loop refer to the analog circuit, the loop being the circuit that is
set up between the local exchange when the telephone goes off-hook (it 
completes the circuit and thus
draws current)
Your alarm should be connected to the local loop via a special jack (RJ31X)
This is designed to disconnect any phones from the circuit should the alarm be 
activated
This is so no one can cripple the alarm by calling in,calling out or (in the 
case of an inside job)
leaving the phone off the hook. IF you have DSL on this line it will also 
disconnect the data connection.
These alarms can only use analog lines unless the jack is rewired.

Hope this makes things a little more understandable.

H

 =
 Henry L.Coleman [www.VoIP-PBX.ca]
 Tel: 647-723-5160 Ext.203
 =


{ Aloysius Thevarajah Lloyd}
 I am also interested to  know how the postal machine through voip lines. In
 the past I tried several times no luck. Any one share your experience.

 Lloyd




 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Bill Sandiford 
 b...@telnetcommunications.com wrote:

 Dean:

 The only difference is the features that are included.  It is still a
 regular analogue line served off the same equipment at the Bell CO as every
 other line.

 Regards,
 Bill

 -Original Message-
 From: Dean Yorke [mailto:dean.yo...@xyc.ca]
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:20 PM
 To: Bill Sandiford
 Cc: 'Andre Courchesne'; 'asterisk Mailing'
 Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

 yes this is what i am talking about?

 is there any difference with a standard analogue line?

 also, anyone have any luck with a postal machine working over ata and
 voip lines?

 thanks for the responses!


 On 5-Mar-09, at 8:26 PM, Bill Sandiford wrote:

  I think you mean Local Link line which is a POTS service offered
  by Bell.  It is an analog line, it is not digital.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dean Yorke [mailto:dean.yo...@xyc.ca]
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:47 PM
  To: Andre Courchesne
  Cc: asterisk Mailing
  Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems
 
  Sorry, local loop line is a service that has call features like call
  forwarding and call display and caller id.
 
  but it is different that the service for a standard bell line like
  home.  I think it has a little digital service.
 
  Thanks
 
  On 5-Mar-09, at 4:33 PM, Andre Courchesne wrote:
 
  Hi Dean,
 
  I think local loop refers to a dry-loop so you do not have a
  dialtone on those lines thus they can only be used for DSL
  services...
 
  Dean Yorke wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I know that this might be a little off topic but...
 
  Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between
  an analogue line and a local loop line from bell.
 
  we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine
  and personal install alarm system) that are having issues
  communicating on these lines.
 
  Thanks
 
 
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Re: [on-asterisk] alarm systems

2009-03-05 Thread Jim Van Meggelen

There seems to be some misunderstanding here.

This is probably the best way to understand a local loop:

The local loop is the pair of copper wires that run between your 
premises and the Central Office, through which the carrier delivers a 
service. The carriers generally refer to all this collective copper 
infrastructure as the Outside Plant. I suppose a local loop could be 
fibre as well, but I think most people would be best to think of a local 
loop as a copper connection. It is pretty much pair of wires that run 
from your premise to the circuit terminating equipment provided by your 
carrier (there may be some cross-connects along the way, but that loop 
is dedicated to your premises).


- If they connect your local loop up to an analogue card, you get an 
analogue line.


- If they connect your local loop up to a DSLAM, you get DSL.

- If they connect your local loop up to an HDSL unit such as a PairGain, 
you get a T1.


- If they connect your local loop up to some other thing, you get . . . 
um . . . some other thing (I'm thinking mostly of old services that 
nobody ever orders anymore).


Traditionally the carriers would--by default--connect copper loops to 
analogue circuit packs, and then simply program the circuit up if you 
want dial tone. This is why a dead line will often have battery (which 
means there is voltage on the line and you can hear sidetone, but no 
dial tone). A 'dry loop' refers to a loop that has been disconnected 
from the analogue circuit, and not provisioned for any traditional 
carrier services. If memory serves correctly, it's called 'dry' because 
it's disconnected from the batteries (which are 'wet'). It's really more 
of a pricing and tariff thing than a technical thing, since they may not 
bother actually disconnecting the wires. The point of a 'dry loop' is 
that you are having DSL delivered on a line that would typically also 
have an analog circuit on it.


Does that help?

Note: Local Link is a bundle of features that are delivered on an analog 
circuit. Link refers to the fact that you can press the Link button 
on old Nortel phones to perform a hookswitch flash. Local Link service 
offers all sorts of features that you access via the Link button. 
Since Bell and Nortel were once the same company, Bell uses a lot of 
Nortel-speak. You can also get Link type features on your home phone. 
Bell just doesn't call that Local Link even though it might be very 
similar or even identical from a technical perspective.


Clear as mud?

Jim


Dean Yorke wrote:

Hi All,

I know that this might be a little off topic but...

Wondering if someone can help me understand the difference between an 
analogue line and a local loop line from bell.


we have a couple pieces of equipment, (pitney bowes mail machine and 
personal install alarm system) that are having issues communicating on 
these lines.


Thanks


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