Re: [on-asterisk] Backup and Restore
Thanks John, this is a really elegant solution.
Plugging in a USB stick however, CLI reports:
*FAT: Unrecognised mount option relatime or missing value*
*
*
I checked the link you included but there's nothing obvious that would give
this error.
(My stick is formatted NTFS)
Thanks Henry
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:43 PM, John Lange j...@johnlange.ca wrote:
In short; create this file (* /etc/udev/rules.d/11-backup-auto-mount.rules
) *by copying and pasting the text between the start and end tags:
--- start ---
* *
KERNEL!=sd[a-z][0-9], GOTO=backup_auto_mount_end
# Import FS infos
IMPORT{program}=/sbin/blkid -o udev -p %N
# Global mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{mount_options}=relatime
# Filesystem-specific mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}==vfat|ntfs,
ENV{mount_options}=$env{mount_options},utf8,gid=100,umask=002
# Mount the device
ACTION==add, RUN+=/bin/mount -o $env{mount_options} /dev/%k
/var/lib/asterisk/backups
# Clean up after removal
ACTION==remove, ENV{dir_name}!=, RUN+=/bin/umount -l
/var/lib/asterisk/backups
# Exit
LABEL=backup_auto_mount_end
--- end ---
You can then insert and remove your key without touching the system. (I'm
making a lot of assumptions about FreePBX that should be correct, for
example that it uses udev).
Lots more suggestions on udev rules here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev#Auto_mounting_USB_devices
--
John Lange
www.johnlange.ca
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Henry Coleman
henry.cole...@voip-pbx.cawrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions. So far I think that Doug' solution looks
the most promising, however
it needs automating so that inserting the USB stick will automatically
mount the stick and disconnection will umount the stick.
(A sort of plug and play if you will) Restore might work also based on
this principle.
So I'm gonna pick your Linux brains (again) and ask if this can be done?
Henry [?]
--
*Henry L. Coleman *
***Per: VoIP-PBX.ca
*
*
*
RE: [on-asterisk] Backup and Restore
Reformat the stick as FAT and your problem should go away.
Can be done from Windows...right click on the drive the in the My
Computer...choose Format...and then select FAT as the file system type from the
dropdown.
Bill
From: Henry Coleman [mailto:henry.cole...@voip-pbx.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:25 AM
To: TAUG Technical
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Backup and Restore
Thanks John, this is a really elegant solution.
Plugging in a USB stick however, CLI reports:
FAT: Unrecognised mount option relatime or missing value
I checked the link you included but there's nothing obvious that would give
this error.
(My stick is formatted NTFS)
Thanks Henry
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:43 PM, John Lange
j...@johnlange.camailto:j...@johnlange.ca wrote:
In short; create this file ( /etc/udev/rules.d/11-backup-auto-mount.rules ) by
copying and pasting the text between the start and end tags:
--- start ---
KERNEL!=sd[a-z][0-9], GOTO=backup_auto_mount_end
# Import FS infos
IMPORT{program}=/sbin/blkid -o udev -p %N
# Global mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{mount_options}=relatime
# Filesystem-specific mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}==vfat|ntfs,
ENV{mount_options}=$env{mount_options},utf8,gid=100,umask=002
# Mount the device
ACTION==add, RUN+=/bin/mount -o $env{mount_options} /dev/%k
/var/lib/asterisk/backups
# Clean up after removal
ACTION==remove, ENV{dir_name}!=, RUN+=/bin/umount -l
/var/lib/asterisk/backups
# Exit
LABEL=backup_auto_mount_end
--- end ---
You can then insert and remove your key without touching the system. (I'm
making a lot of assumptions about FreePBX that should be correct, for example
that it uses udev).
Lots more suggestions on udev rules here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev#Auto_mounting_USB_devices
--
John Lange
www.johnlange.cahttp://www.johnlange.ca
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Henry Coleman
henry.cole...@voip-pbx.camailto:henry.cole...@voip-pbx.ca wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions. So far I think that Doug' solution looks the
most promising, however
it needs automating so that inserting the USB stick will automatically mount
the stick and disconnection will umount the stick.
(A sort of plug and play if you will) Restore might work also based on this
principle.
So I'm gonna pick your Linux brains (again) and ask if this can be done?
Henry [cid:voip-pbx_ca.330@goomoji.gmail]
--
Henry L. Coleman
Per: VoIP-PBX.ca
Re: [on-asterisk] Backup and Restore
For easier compatibility format your USB key as FAT32
On 12/14/2010 10:25 AM, Henry Coleman wrote:
Thanks John, this is a really elegant solution.
Plugging in a USB stick however, CLI reports:
*FAT: Unrecognised mount option relatime or missing value*
*
*
I checked the link you included but there's nothing obvious that would
give this error.
(My stick is formatted NTFS)
Thanks Henry
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:43 PM, John Lange j...@johnlange.ca
mailto:j...@johnlange.ca wrote:
In short; create this file
(*/etc/udev/rules.d/11-backup-auto-mount.rules ) *by copying and
pasting the text between the start and end tags:
--- start ---
**
KERNEL!=sd[a-z][0-9], GOTO=backup_auto_mount_end
# Import FS infos
IMPORT{program}=/sbin/blkid -o udev -p %N
# Global mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{mount_options}=relatime
# Filesystem-specific mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}==vfat|ntfs,
ENV{mount_options}=$env{mount_options},utf8,gid=100,umask=002
# Mount the device
ACTION==add, RUN+=/bin/mount -o $env{mount_options} /dev/%k
/var/lib/asterisk/backups
# Clean up after removal
ACTION==remove, ENV{dir_name}!=, RUN+=/bin/umount -l
/var/lib/asterisk/backups
# Exit
LABEL=backup_auto_mount_end
--- end ---
You can then insert and remove your key without touching the
system. (I'm making a lot of assumptions about FreePBX that should
be correct, for example that it uses udev).
Lots more suggestions on udev rules here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev#Auto_mounting_USB_devices
--
John Lange
www.johnlange.ca http://www.johnlange.ca
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Henry Coleman
henry.cole...@voip-pbx.ca mailto:henry.cole...@voip-pbx.ca wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions. So far I think that Doug'
solution looks the most promising, however
it needs automating so that inserting the USB stick will
automatically mount the stick and disconnection will
umount the stick.
(A sort of plug and play if you will) Restore might work also
based on this principle.
So I'm gonna pick your Linux brains (again) and ask if this
can be done?
Henry
--
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/Per: VoIP-PBX.ca
/
/
/
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Re: [on-asterisk] Backup and Restore
I don't think reformatting your usb key will solve that mount error. I don't
have access to a freepbx system verify this but my guess is the version of
mount is too old to support relatime.
Regardless, you can safely delete this whole section:
# Global mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{mount_options}=relatime
relatime noatime are tweaks to the mounting that prevent linux from
updating the atime of the file. It dramatically cuts down on file system
access which not only improves performance but also lengthens the life of
storage that has a maximum re-write lifetime.
This is --way-- off topic but if you are interested in performance tweaking
of linux file systems you can experiment with mounting your devices with the
noatime option. However, it can cause problems with certain programs that
require accurate atime information so use with caution.
By the way, if you needed to reformat the key you can format fat32 (vfat) on
Linux:
# mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1
Or if you don't need to plug this usb into a Windows machine you can just
format the key with ext3.
--
John Lange
www.johnlange.ca
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Mike Ashton
mike.ash...@qualitytrack.comwrote:
For easier compatibility format your USB key as FAT32
On 12/14/2010 10:25 AM, Henry Coleman wrote:
Thanks John, this is a really elegant solution.
Plugging in a USB stick however, CLI reports:
*FAT: Unrecognised mount option relatime or missing value*
*
*
I checked the link you included but there's nothing obvious that would give
this error.
(My stick is formatted NTFS)
Thanks Henry
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:43 PM, John Lange j...@johnlange.ca wrote:
In short; create this file (* /etc/udev/rules.d/11-backup-auto-mount.rules
) *by copying and pasting the text between the start and end tags:
--- start ---
* *
KERNEL!=sd[a-z][0-9], GOTO=backup_auto_mount_end
# Import FS infos
IMPORT{program}=/sbin/blkid -o udev -p %N
# Global mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{mount_options}=relatime
# Filesystem-specific mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}==vfat|ntfs,
ENV{mount_options}=$env{mount_options},utf8,gid=100,umask=002
# Mount the device
ACTION==add, RUN+=/bin/mount -o $env{mount_options} /dev/%k
/var/lib/asterisk/backups
# Clean up after removal
ACTION==remove, ENV{dir_name}!=, RUN+=/bin/umount -l
/var/lib/asterisk/backups
# Exit
LABEL=backup_auto_mount_end
--- end ---
You can then insert and remove your key without touching the system. (I'm
making a lot of assumptions about FreePBX that should be correct, for
example that it uses udev).
Lots more suggestions on udev rules here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev#Auto_mounting_USB_devices
--
John Lange
www.johnlange.ca
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Henry Coleman
henry.cole...@voip-pbx.ca wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions. So far I think that Doug' solution looks
the most promising, however
it needs automating so that inserting the USB stick will automatically
mount the stick and disconnection will umount the stick.
(A sort of plug and play if you will) Restore might work also based on
this principle.
So I'm gonna pick your Linux brains (again) and ask if this can be
done?
Henry [?]
--
*Henry L. Coleman *
*Per: VoIP-PBX.ca
*
*
*
--
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Quality Track International
Work: +1 647 724 3500 x251
Cell: +1 416 527 4995
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Re: [on-asterisk] Backup and Restore
Just to make sure that we are on the same page, the Distro is PBX in a flash
(PIAF)
Centos 5.2, Asterisk 1.6, Freepbx 2.7
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Henry Coleman henry.cole...@voip-pbx.cawrote:
Hi all I have commented out the line as suggested.(tried fixing the typo,
didn't make any difference)
Initially, hot plugging the USB will display the USB file system however on
unplugging the stick
the old file system will not return unless I reboot (with the stick
removed).
I tried to save a file on the USB drive which should create a directory and
file:
ie. var/lib/asterisk/backups/*usb*/date_and_time filename.tgz but this
didn't create a directory or a file.
The good news is that I does auto mount ...
Henry
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, John Lange j...@johnlange.ca wrote:
I don't think reformatting your usb key will solve that mount error. I
don't have access to a freepbx system verify this but my guess is the
version of mount is too old to support relatime.
Regardless, you can safely delete this whole section:
# Global mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{mount_options}=relatime
relatime noatime are tweaks to the mounting that prevent linux from
updating the atime of the file. It dramatically cuts down on file system
access which not only improves performance but also lengthens the life of
storage that has a maximum re-write lifetime.
This is --way-- off topic but if you are interested in performance
tweaking of linux file systems you can experiment with mounting your devices
with the noatime option. However, it can cause problems with certain
programs that require accurate atime information so use with caution.
By the way, if you needed to reformat the key you can format fat32 (vfat)
on Linux:
# mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1
Or if you don't need to plug this usb into a Windows machine you can just
format the key with ext3.
--
John Lange
www.johnlange.ca
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Mike Ashton
mike.ash...@qualitytrack.com wrote:
For easier compatibility format your USB key as FAT32
On 12/14/2010 10:25 AM, Henry Coleman wrote:
Thanks John, this is a really elegant solution.
Plugging in a USB stick however, CLI reports:
*FAT: Unrecognised mount option relatime or missing value*
*
*
I checked the link you included but there's nothing obvious that would
give this error.
(My stick is formatted NTFS)
Thanks Henry
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:43 PM, John Lange j...@johnlange.ca wrote:
In short; create this file (* /etc/udev/rules.d/11-backup-auto-mount.rules
) *by copying and pasting the text between the start and end tags:
--- start ---
* *
KERNEL!=sd[a-z][0-9], GOTO=backup_auto_mount_end
# Import FS infos
IMPORT{program}=/sbin/blkid -o udev -p %N
# Global mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{mount_options}=relatime
# Filesystem-specific mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}==vfat|ntfs,
ENV{mount_options}=$env{mount_options},utf8,gid=100,umask=002
# Mount the device
ACTION==add, RUN+=/bin/mount -o $env{mount_options} /dev/%k
/var/lib/asterisk/backups
# Clean up after removal
ACTION==remove, ENV{dir_name}!=, RUN+=/bin/umount -l
/var/lib/asterisk/backups
# Exit
LABEL=backup_auto_mount_end
--- end ---
You can then insert and remove your key without touching the system.
(I'm making a lot of assumptions about FreePBX that should be correct, for
example that it uses udev).
Lots more suggestions on udev rules here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev#Auto_mounting_USB_devices
--
John Lange
www.johnlange.ca
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Henry Coleman
henry.cole...@voip-pbx.ca wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions. So far I think that Doug' solution
looks the most promising, however
it needs automating so that inserting the USB stick will automatically
mount the stick and disconnection will umount the stick.
(A sort of plug and play if you will) Restore might work also based on
this principle.
So I'm gonna pick your Linux brains (again) and ask if this can be
done?
Henry [?]
--
*Henry L. Coleman *
*Per: VoIP-PBX.ca
*
*
*
--
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Quality Track International
Work: +1 647 724 3500 x251
Cell: +1 416 527 4995
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Re: [on-asterisk] Backup and Restore
If I understand what you are saying; even though you commented out the entire line with the relatime option, you are still getting the same mount error when you insert the USB stick? When you change the udev rules, udev should automatically re-read the options, but just in case it doesn't, you can issue: # udevadm control --reload-rules (I'm not 100% sure that command exists in centos though...) If that has all been done properly then it seems impossible that you are still getting the same error... When you remove the drive, is it unmounted (check at the command line using the 'mount' command). And what typo are you referring to? I don't amke typos! ;) -- John Lange www.johnlange.ca
Re: [on-asterisk] Backup and Restore
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Henry Coleman henry.cole...@voip-pbx.cawrote:
Hi Dean, yes there are a lot of ways to back up the system in FreePBX but
none allow for USB drives or CD's (removable media)
For clients who want complete protection against fire, theft and being
Bricked the ability to take the stick home every evening.
is a sound tactic. It takes less than an hour to build the distro from
scratch and a minute or so to restore the conf, cdr and Vmail on a new or
backup PC.
Henry
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Dean Yorke dean.yo...@xyc.ca wrote:
you need to search the board on piaf. they have great backup and restore
routines. and it backs up everything if that is what you want!
On 2010-12-14, at 1:09 PM, Henry Coleman wrote:
Just to make sure that we are on the same page, the Distro is PBX in a
flash (PIAF)
Centos 5.2, Asterisk 1.6, Freepbx 2.7
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Henry Coleman henry.cole...@voip-pbx.ca
wrote:
Hi all I have commented out the line as suggested.(tried fixing the typo,
didn't make any difference)
Initially, hot plugging the USB will display the USB file system however
on unplugging the stick
the old file system will not return unless I reboot (with the stick
removed).
I tried to save a file on the USB drive which should create a directory
and file:
ie. var/lib/asterisk/backups/*usb*/date_and_time filename.tgz but this
didn't create a directory or a file.
The good news is that I does auto mount ...
Henry
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, John Lange j...@johnlange.ca wrote:
I don't think reformatting your usb key will solve that mount error. I
don't have access to a freepbx system verify this but my guess is the
version of mount is too old to support relatime.
Regardless, you can safely delete this whole section:
# Global mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{mount_options}=relatime
relatime noatime are tweaks to the mounting that prevent linux
from updating the atime of the file. It dramatically cuts down on file
system access which not only improves performance but also lengthens the
life of storage that has a maximum re-write lifetime.
This is --way-- off topic but if you are interested in performance
tweaking of linux file systems you can experiment with mounting your
devices
with the noatime option. However, it can cause problems with certain
programs that require accurate atime information so use with caution.
By the way, if you needed to reformat the key you can format fat32
(vfat) on Linux:
# mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1
Or if you don't need to plug this usb into a Windows machine you can
just format the key with ext3.
--
John Lange
www.johnlange.ca
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Mike Ashton
mike.ash...@qualitytrack.com wrote:
For easier compatibility format your USB key as FAT32
On 12/14/2010 10:25 AM, Henry Coleman wrote:
Thanks John, this is a really elegant solution.
Plugging in a USB stick however, CLI reports:
*FAT: Unrecognised mount option relatime or missing value*
*
*
I checked the link you included but there's nothing obvious that would
give this error.
(My stick is formatted NTFS)
Thanks Henry
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:43 PM, John Lange j...@johnlange.ca wrote:
In short; create this file (*
/etc/udev/rules.d/11-backup-auto-mount.rules
) *by copying and pasting the text between the start and end tags:
--- start ---
* *
KERNEL!=sd[a-z][0-9], GOTO=backup_auto_mount_end
# Import FS infos
IMPORT{program}=/sbin/blkid -o udev -p %N
# Global mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{mount_options}=relatime
# Filesystem-specific mount options
ACTION==add, ENV{ID_FS_TYPE}==vfat|ntfs,
ENV{mount_options}=$env{mount_options},utf8,gid=100,umask=002
# Mount the device
ACTION==add, RUN+=/bin/mount -o $env{mount_options} /dev/%k
/var/lib/asterisk/backups
# Clean up after removal
ACTION==remove, ENV{dir_name}!=, RUN+=/bin/umount -l
/var/lib/asterisk/backups
# Exit
LABEL=backup_auto_mount_end
--- end ---
You can then insert and remove your key without touching the system.
(I'm making a lot of assumptions about FreePBX that should be correct,
for
example that it uses udev).
Lots more suggestions on udev rules here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev#Auto_mounting_USB_devices
--
John Lange
www.johnlange.ca
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Henry Coleman
henry.cole...@voip-pbx.ca wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions. So far I think that Doug' solution
looks the most promising, however
it needs automating so that inserting the USB stick will
automatically mount the stick and disconnection will umount the
stick.
(A sort of plug and play if you will) Restore might work also based
on this principle.
So I'm gonna pick your Linux brains (again) and ask if this can be
done?
Henry
--
*Henry L. Coleman *
*Per: VoIP-PBX.ca
*
*
*
--
Mike Ashton
Quality Track International
Work: +1 647 724
