Re: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules
I think this is just a case of farming out this part of their business to third party partners. If you don't control these companies they can cut corners (in order to save costs). I hope that Bell have cancelled this third parties contract. Henry On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Simon P. Ditner si...@uc.org wrote: I wonder if they used the opt-out list as their dialing list -- since no one else should be calling them, they'd have the upper hand ;-) On 21 December 2010 11:41, Peter MacFarlane pmac...@eastlink.ca wrote: Well, it made the national CBC news this AM. Now people are calling for something better than the NDNCL, since it obviously isn't working. Peter MacFarlane On 10-12-20 09:55 PM, Ivan Kovacevic wrote: The ultimate irony is that Bell is the operator of the Canadian NDNCL. http://www.bell.ca/enterprise/EntNews_Press_200802.page as per the press release: Bell will design, develop, implement and operate the National DNCL to: * Accept consumer registrations of telephone numbers on the DNCL * Make the DNCL available to telemarketers and collect related fees, and * Register consumer complaints about telemarketing Best Regards, Ivan Kovacevic Star Telecom | www.startelecom.ca | i...@startelecom.ca T: +14164790325 x205 | C: +14168350532 | F: +14166195403 -Original Message- From: Ian Darwin [mailto:i...@darwinsys.com] Sent: December-20-10 8:50 PM To: John Lange Cc: asterisk Mailing Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 04:32:09PM -0600, John Lange wrote: I guess this isn't really on topic but still; Wow. http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/com100/2010/r101220.htm Sounds like small change for them. We got a bunch of calls claiming to be from Bell advertising services, but we just hung up on them. Glad the CRTC has made them hang up this practice, for now at least. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org -- *Henry L. Coleman * ***Per: VoIP-PBX.ca * * *
Re: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules
Well, it made the national CBC news this AM. Now people are calling for something better than the NDNCL, since it obviously isn't working. Peter MacFarlane On 10-12-20 09:55 PM, Ivan Kovacevic wrote: The ultimate irony is that Bell is the operator of the Canadian NDNCL. http://www.bell.ca/enterprise/EntNews_Press_200802.page as per the press release: Bell will design, develop, implement and operate the National DNCL to: * Accept consumer registrations of telephone numbers on the DNCL * Make the DNCL available to telemarketers and collect related fees, and * Register consumer complaints about telemarketing Best Regards, Ivan Kovacevic Star Telecom | www.startelecom.ca | i...@startelecom.ca T: +14164790325 x205 | C: +14168350532 | F: +14166195403 -Original Message- From: Ian Darwin [mailto:i...@darwinsys.com] Sent: December-20-10 8:50 PM To: John Lange Cc: asterisk Mailing Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 04:32:09PM -0600, John Lange wrote: I guess this isn't really on topic but still; Wow. http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/com100/2010/r101220.htm Sounds like small change for them. We got a bunch of calls claiming to be from Bell advertising services, but we just hung up on them. Glad the CRTC has made them hang up this practice, for now at least. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
Re: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules
I wonder if they used the opt-out list as their dialing list -- since no one else should be calling them, they'd have the upper hand ;-) On 21 December 2010 11:41, Peter MacFarlane pmac...@eastlink.ca wrote: Well, it made the national CBC news this AM. Now people are calling for something better than the NDNCL, since it obviously isn't working. Peter MacFarlane On 10-12-20 09:55 PM, Ivan Kovacevic wrote: The ultimate irony is that Bell is the operator of the Canadian NDNCL. http://www.bell.ca/enterprise/EntNews_Press_200802.page as per the press release: Bell will design, develop, implement and operate the National DNCL to: * Accept consumer registrations of telephone numbers on the DNCL * Make the DNCL available to telemarketers and collect related fees, and * Register consumer complaints about telemarketing Best Regards, Ivan Kovacevic Star Telecom | www.startelecom.ca | i...@startelecom.ca T: +14164790325 x205 | C: +14168350532 | F: +14166195403 -Original Message- From: Ian Darwin [mailto:i...@darwinsys.com] Sent: December-20-10 8:50 PM To: John Lange Cc: asterisk Mailing Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 04:32:09PM -0600, John Lange wrote: I guess this isn't really on topic but still; Wow. http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/com100/2010/r101220.htm Sounds like small change for them. We got a bunch of calls claiming to be from Bell advertising services, but we just hung up on them. Glad the CRTC has made them hang up this practice, for now at least. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
Re: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 04:32:09PM -0600, John Lange wrote: I guess this isn't really on topic but still; Wow. http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/com100/2010/r101220.htm Sounds like small change for them. We got a bunch of calls claiming to be from Bell advertising services, but we just hung up on them. Glad the CRTC has made them hang up this practice, for now at least. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
RE: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules
Yes, we got this from our legal counsel too. The reality is that $1.3 million may be a drop in the bucket compared to the revenue that they brought in from the activities for which they have been fined. Hard to say. Bill -Original Message- From: John Lange [mailto:j...@johnlange.ca] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 5:32 PM To: asterisk Mailing Subject: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules I guess this isn't really on topic but still; Wow. http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/com100/2010/r101220.htm -- John Lange www.johnlange.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org
RE: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules
The ultimate irony is that Bell is the operator of the Canadian NDNCL. http://www.bell.ca/enterprise/EntNews_Press_200802.page as per the press release: Bell will design, develop, implement and operate the National DNCL to: * Accept consumer registrations of telephone numbers on the DNCL * Make the DNCL available to telemarketers and collect related fees, and * Register consumer complaints about telemarketing Best Regards, Ivan Kovacevic Star Telecom | www.startelecom.ca | i...@startelecom.ca T: +14164790325 x205 | C: +14168350532 | F: +14166195403 -Original Message- From: Ian Darwin [mailto:i...@darwinsys.com] Sent: December-20-10 8:50 PM To: John Lange Cc: asterisk Mailing Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Bell Canada has paid a $1.3 million penalty for violating the National Do Not Call List Rules On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 04:32:09PM -0600, John Lange wrote: I guess this isn't really on topic but still; Wow. http://crtc.gc.ca/eng/com100/2010/r101220.htm Sounds like small change for them. We got a bunch of calls claiming to be from Bell advertising services, but we just hung up on them. Glad the CRTC has made them hang up this practice, for now at least. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: asterisk-unsubscr...@uc.org For additional commands, e-mail: asterisk-h...@uc.org