RE: [on-asterisk] Can a 416 number be ported over as a DID onto a 905 PRI link from Bell Canada? Reps tell me NO and I don't understand why.

2010-10-08 Thread Nabeel Jafferali
You can only port a number to a PRI if it is in the same rate centre as the
PRI. That's standard practice for all telcos, except for some that may offer
virtual multi-rate-centre PRIs (usually for an extra fee).

Use localcallingguide.com to look up the rate centres of your current DIDs
and any DIDs you are interested in porting.

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Nabeel Jafferali
X2 Networks Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce N [mailto:het...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: October-08-10 3:48 PM
To: asterisk Mailing
Subject: [on-asterisk] Can a 416 number be ported over as a DID onto a 905
PRI link from Bell Canada? Reps tell me NO and I don't understand why.


Hi Everyone,
Just got off the phone with a Bell Canada PRI rep and was disappointed when
she told me that a 905-686- and 416-686- number can not be ported
over to a PRI link which is sourced from the Melton exchange 905-405-x.
Both the 416-686 and 905-686 are currently SNR from Bell Canada.
The reason was that none of these numbers are from the same exchange and
that NEVER a 416 can come onto a 905 PRI. I understand the rationality
behind different exchanges but I thought this wouldn't be a problem if it
was brought over as a DID. 
Previously we asked Bell Canada to port over a MALTON010MD switch number
(belongs to Allstream) to Bell Canada switch MALTON22CG1 and they said it's
not possible as a standalone business number but then they were able to
bring it over as a DID onto the MALTON22CG1 and take it away from Allstream.
So, in practice, it's possible to change switches and even snatch it from
another provider. I don't see why they won't bring over a 416 or 905-686
that belongs to Ajax-Pickering over to a Malton switch. Do Rate Centers
determine the portability rather than the switches whereabouts? Are they
only doing because their billing system is not capable of tracking calls if
numbers are moved to different rate centers?
Can someone please shed light on it or let me know if I was talking to a rep
who was misinformed?
Also, we can try to port this number out to a third party and then port it
back into Bell if that makes a difference or if it makes them accept it.
Thanks,Bruce  


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RE: [on-asterisk] Can a 416 number be ported over as a DID onto a 905 PRI link from Bell Canada? Reps tell me NO and I don't understand why.

2010-10-08 Thread Bill Sandiford
As a CLEC, we offer forwarding back to the PSTN on a per concurrent channel 
basis for this type of stuff.  Before doing so, we need to know the expected 
channel volume and type of business (ie, our rates are SIGNIFICANTLY higher for 
call centres).

Bill

 -Original Message-
 From: Nabeel Jafferali [mailto:nab...@x2n.ca]
 Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 3:53 PM
 To: 'Bruce N'; 'asterisk Mailing'
 Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Can a 416 number be ported over as a DID
 onto a 905 PRI link from Bell Canada? Reps tell me NO and I don't
 understand why.
 
 You can only port a number to a PRI if it is in the same rate centre as
 the
 PRI. That's standard practice for all telcos, except for some that may
 offer
 virtual multi-rate-centre PRIs (usually for an extra fee).
 
 Use localcallingguide.com to look up the rate centres of your current
 DIDs
 and any DIDs you are interested in porting.
 
 --
 Nabeel Jafferali
 X2 Networks Inc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce N [mailto:het...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: October-08-10 3:48 PM
 To: asterisk Mailing
 Subject: [on-asterisk] Can a 416 number be ported over as a DID onto a
 905
 PRI link from Bell Canada? Reps tell me NO and I don't understand why.
 
 
 Hi Everyone,
 Just got off the phone with a Bell Canada PRI rep and was disappointed
 when
 she told me that a 905-686- and 416-686- number can not be
 ported
 over to a PRI link which is sourced from the Melton exchange 905-405-
 x.
 Both the 416-686 and 905-686 are currently SNR from Bell Canada.
 The reason was that none of these numbers are from the same exchange
 and
 that NEVER a 416 can come onto a 905 PRI. I understand the rationality
 behind different exchanges but I thought this wouldn't be a problem if
 it
 was brought over as a DID.
 Previously we asked Bell Canada to port over a MALTON010MD switch
 number
 (belongs to Allstream) to Bell Canada switch MALTON22CG1 and they said
 it's
 not possible as a standalone business number but then they were able to
 bring it over as a DID onto the MALTON22CG1 and take it away from
 Allstream.
 So, in practice, it's possible to change switches and even snatch it
 from
 another provider. I don't see why they won't bring over a 416 or 905-
 686
 that belongs to Ajax-Pickering over to a Malton switch. Do Rate Centers
 determine the portability rather than the switches whereabouts? Are
 they
 only doing because their billing system is not capable of tracking
 calls if
 numbers are moved to different rate centers?
 Can someone please shed light on it or let me know if I was talking to
 a rep
 who was misinformed?
 Also, we can try to port this number out to a third party and then port
 it
 back into Bell if that makes a difference or if it makes them accept
 it.
 Thanks,Bruce
 
 
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