Re: [Asterisk-Users] CT1 and callerid / DNIS

2003-12-26 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
  Can you set outbound callerid on a channelized T1?
 
 DTMF passed before the call. It is unlikely though that you will find
 someone interested in doing that though. It is easier/cheaper to drop a
 PRI into somewhere and then outbound caller ID isn't kludgey with DTMF. 
 
 The service you might be referring to is Dialed Number Identification Service
 (DNIS) that is put on T1's for inbound 800 and 900 lines.  This is an inband
 delivery of the last 4-digits of a dialed number (800/900) that is passed into
 the PBX from the SP for callcenter or other routing.  Does Asterisk support
 this?

Perhaps I'm not understanding the question but you can arbitrarily set the
inbound/outbound DNIS and CLI (inbound=outbound, just a matter of orientation).  
The 4 digit DDI thing is a limit in some protocols (DASS) but I'm assuming we
are talking about q931 ISDN here? in which case the strings can be quite long..  
Theres a whole bunch of other flags that you typically dont get access to unless
you're the network operator, its also common practice (here in the UK) for the
telco to override your CLI on your outbound calls either to withhold it or to
the main number of the PRI altho it is possible for them to allow you to set it
from your side, either to a limited set of values (your pstn numbers) or if
theyre really generous any number.

Steve

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CT1 and callerid / DNIS

2003-12-26 Thread Brian West
I understand PRI can do that but CT1 was my question.  CT1 != PRI

bkw

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:

   Can you set outbound callerid on a channelized T1?
 
  DTMF passed before the call. It is unlikely though that you will find
  someone interested in doing that though. It is easier/cheaper to drop a
  PRI into somewhere and then outbound caller ID isn't kludgey with DTMF.
 
  The service you might be referring to is Dialed Number Identification Service
  (DNIS) that is put on T1's for inbound 800 and 900 lines.  This is an inband
  delivery of the last 4-digits of a dialed number (800/900) that is passed into
  the PBX from the SP for callcenter or other routing.  Does Asterisk support
  this?

 Perhaps I'm not understanding the question but you can arbitrarily set the
 inbound/outbound DNIS and CLI (inbound=outbound, just a matter of orientation).
 The 4 digit DDI thing is a limit in some protocols (DASS) but I'm assuming we
 are talking about q931 ISDN here? in which case the strings can be quite long..
 Theres a whole bunch of other flags that you typically dont get access to unless
 you're the network operator, its also common practice (here in the UK) for the
 telco to override your CLI on your outbound calls either to withhold it or to
 the main number of the PRI altho it is possible for them to allow you to set it
 from your side, either to a limited set of values (your pstn numbers) or if
 theyre really generous any number.

 Steve

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CT1 and callerid / DNIS

2003-12-26 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
Sorry I read the last reply and not your question... my understanding of CT1 is 
that as there is no inband signalling you do not have any control over outbound 
settings such as CLI, and the telco can either set CLI for you or withhold it, I 
believe this is only available to all channels [ie you cant give each channel 
their own settings] 

Steve

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Brian West wrote:

 I understand PRI can do that but CT1 was my question.  CT1 != PRI
 
 bkw
 
 On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
 
Can you set outbound callerid on a channelized T1?
  
   DTMF passed before the call. It is unlikely though that you will find
   someone interested in doing that though. It is easier/cheaper to drop a
   PRI into somewhere and then outbound caller ID isn't kludgey with DTMF.
  
   The service you might be referring to is Dialed Number Identification Service
   (DNIS) that is put on T1's for inbound 800 and 900 lines.  This is an inband
   delivery of the last 4-digits of a dialed number (800/900) that is passed into
   the PBX from the SP for callcenter or other routing.  Does Asterisk support
   this?
 
  Perhaps I'm not understanding the question but you can arbitrarily set the
  inbound/outbound DNIS and CLI (inbound=outbound, just a matter of orientation).
  The 4 digit DDI thing is a limit in some protocols (DASS) but I'm assuming we
  are talking about q931 ISDN here? in which case the strings can be quite long..
  Theres a whole bunch of other flags that you typically dont get access to unless
  you're the network operator, its also common practice (here in the UK) for the
  telco to override your CLI on your outbound calls either to withhold it or to
  the main number of the PRI altho it is possible for them to allow you to set it
  from your side, either to a limited set of values (your pstn numbers) or if
  theyre really generous any number.
 
  Steve
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CT1 and callerid / DNIS

2003-12-26 Thread Brian West
Yep thats what I hear also... grrr I hate SBC!

bkw

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:

 Sorry I read the last reply and not your question... my understanding of CT1 is
 that as there is no inband signalling you do not have any control over outbound
 settings such as CLI, and the telco can either set CLI for you or withhold it, I
 believe this is only available to all channels [ie you cant give each channel
 their own settings]

 Steve

 On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Brian West wrote:

  I understand PRI can do that but CT1 was my question.  CT1 != PRI
 
  bkw
 
  On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
 
 Can you set outbound callerid on a channelized T1?
   
DTMF passed before the call. It is unlikely though that you will find
someone interested in doing that though. It is easier/cheaper to drop a
PRI into somewhere and then outbound caller ID isn't kludgey with DTMF.
   
The service you might be referring to is Dialed Number Identification Service
(DNIS) that is put on T1's for inbound 800 and 900 lines.  This is an inband
delivery of the last 4-digits of a dialed number (800/900) that is passed into
the PBX from the SP for callcenter or other routing.  Does Asterisk support
this?
  
   Perhaps I'm not understanding the question but you can arbitrarily set the
   inbound/outbound DNIS and CLI (inbound=outbound, just a matter of orientation).
   The 4 digit DDI thing is a limit in some protocols (DASS) but I'm assuming we
   are talking about q931 ISDN here? in which case the strings can be quite long..
   Theres a whole bunch of other flags that you typically dont get access to unless
   you're the network operator, its also common practice (here in the UK) for the
   telco to override your CLI on your outbound calls either to withhold it or to
   the main number of the PRI altho it is possible for them to allow you to set it
   from your side, either to a limited set of values (your pstn numbers) or if
   theyre really generous any number.
  
   Steve
  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CT1 and callerid / DNIS

2003-12-24 Thread david



On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 19:22, Brian West 
wrote: I'm just double checking.. I was told it wasn't possible but i'm 
going to ask just in case.  Can you set outbound 
callerid on a channelized T1?
I think there is a way to do something like DID with the 4 digits 
ofDTMF passed before the call. It is unlikely though that you will 
findsomeone interested in doing that though. It is easier/cheaper to 
drop aPRI into somewhere and then outbound caller ID isn't kludgey with 
DTMF. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The service you might be referring to is Dialed Number 
Identification Service (DNIS) that is put on T1's for inbound 800 and 900 
lines. This is an inband delivery of the last 4-digits of a dialed number 
(800/900) that is passed into the PBX from the SPfor callcenter or other 
routing. Does Asterisk support this?

- David Schlossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])




[Asterisk-Users] CT1 and callerid

2003-12-23 Thread Brian West
I'm just double checking.. I was told it wasn't possible but i'm going to
ask just in case.

Can you set outbound callerid on a channelized T1?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CT1 and callerid

2003-12-23 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 19:22, Brian West wrote:
 I'm just double checking.. I was told it wasn't possible but i'm going to
 ask just in case.
 
 Can you set outbound callerid on a channelized T1?

I think there is a way to do something like DID with the 4 digits of
DTMF passed before the call. It is unlikely though that you will find
someone interested in doing that though. It is easier/cheaper to drop a
PRI into somewhere and then outbound caller ID isn't kludgey with DTMF. 
-- 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CT1 and callerid

2003-12-23 Thread Brian West
HAHA you apparenlty aren't where we are... PRI is over priced... 3600/mth
SBC Victim... they have to backhaul it 110 miles.. where CT1's can be
served by the local CO.

bkw

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Steven Critchfield wrote:

 On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 19:22, Brian West wrote:
  I'm just double checking.. I was told it wasn't possible but i'm going to
  ask just in case.
 
  Can you set outbound callerid on a channelized T1?

 I think there is a way to do something like DID with the 4 digits of
 DTMF passed before the call. It is unlikely though that you will find
 someone interested in doing that though. It is easier/cheaper to drop a
 PRI into somewhere and then outbound caller ID isn't kludgey with DTMF.
 --
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CT1 and callerid

2003-12-23 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 19:59, Brian West wrote:
 HAHA you apparenlty aren't where we are... PRI is over priced... 3600/mth
 SBC Victim... they have to backhaul it 110 miles.. where CT1's can be
 served by the local CO.

Maybe you need to discuss that with your PSC. Our PSC gave us flat rate
ISDN and required the telco to provide it for no additional charge based
on distance.

Or then again, you can take the money you would save and move to a
better market. Our PRI is just under $800 a month after taxes.

 On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Steven Critchfield wrote:
 
  On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 19:22, Brian West wrote:
   I'm just double checking.. I was told it wasn't possible but i'm going to
   ask just in case.
  
   Can you set outbound callerid on a channelized T1?
 
  I think there is a way to do something like DID with the 4 digits of
  DTMF passed before the call. It is unlikely though that you will find
  someone interested in doing that though. It is easier/cheaper to drop a
  PRI into somewhere and then outbound caller ID isn't kludgey with DTMF.
  --
  Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CT1 and callerid

2003-12-23 Thread Brian West
I have very few if any choice in this area.  If we get PRI it wouldn't
have local dialtone... it would be Tulsa.  I can colo in tulsa but still
the rate is way too high.  About 1k/mth.

bkw

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Steven Critchfield wrote:

 On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 19:59, Brian West wrote:
  HAHA you apparenlty aren't where we are... PRI is over priced... 3600/mth
  SBC Victim... they have to backhaul it 110 miles.. where CT1's can be
  served by the local CO.

 Maybe you need to discuss that with your PSC. Our PSC gave us flat rate
 ISDN and required the telco to provide it for no additional charge based
 on distance.

 Or then again, you can take the money you would save and move to a
 better market. Our PRI is just under $800 a month after taxes.

  On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Steven Critchfield wrote:
 
   On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 19:22, Brian West wrote:
I'm just double checking.. I was told it wasn't possible but i'm going to
ask just in case.
   
Can you set outbound callerid on a channelized T1?
  
   I think there is a way to do something like DID with the 4 digits of
   DTMF passed before the call. It is unlikely though that you will find
   someone interested in doing that though. It is easier/cheaper to drop a
   PRI into somewhere and then outbound caller ID isn't kludgey with DTMF.
   --
   Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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