Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed
2009/2/13 Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:59:50AM -0800, John Todd wrote: I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system. Here are some calculations I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's system. Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these calculations - but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may glom onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in there. http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which when compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth) only $38.56 more. Very interesting. For 20$ or slightly more you can rent a Xen or OpenVZ virtual host which will probably do as well. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.comjabber%3atzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users And in France it is possible to have a dedicated server with 100 mbit /160 gb hdd 1.6 Ghz for 19€ and unlimited bandwith, and it is real unlimited. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed
Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy wrote: 2009/2/13 Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:59:50AM -0800, John Todd wrote: I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system. Here are some calculations I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's system. Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these calculations - but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may glom onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in there. http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which when compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth) only $38.56 more. Very interesting. For 20$ or slightly more you can rent a Xen or OpenVZ virtual host which will probably do as well. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com mailto:jabber%3atzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir http://iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users And in France it is possible to have a dedicated server with 100 mbit /160 gb hdd 1.6 Ghz for 19€ and unlimited bandwith, and it is real unlimited. Seriously? Where? Sign me up! N. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed
2009/2/16 SIP s...@arcdiv.com Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy wrote: 2009/2/13 Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:59:50AM -0800, John Todd wrote: I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system. Here are some calculations I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's system. Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these calculations - but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may glom onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in there. http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which when compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth) only $38.56 more. Very interesting. For 20$ or slightly more you can rent a Xen or OpenVZ virtual host which will probably do as well. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.comjabber%3atzafrir.co...@xorcom.com mailto:jabber%3atzafrir.co...@xorcom.comjabber%253atzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir http://iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users And in France it is possible to have a dedicated server with 100 mbit /160 gb hdd 1.6 Ghz for 19€ and unlimited bandwith, and it is real unlimited. Seriously? Where? Sign me up! N. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users It is not a biz list but i am not owning the company, it is ovh.com click to kimsufior go directly to http://www.kimsufi.com/ oh it is 19.99 but not a 160 gb but a 250 gb and still unlimited. have fun. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed
On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:59 AM, John Todd wrote: I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system. Here are some calculations I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's system. Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these calculations - but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may glom onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in there. http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which when compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth) only $38.56 more. Very interesting. The big advantage I like, is the ability to have identical production and development environments, without having to continuously run the development environment. When writing up how to install DAHDI on an Asterisk EC2 instance, I went through several instances, I could bring up an instance in minutes, use it for 10 or 15 minutes and then throw it away. I could do something similar with VMware ESX attached to a SAN, but it is much more capital intensive, even with leasing. For a single box, EC2 probably isn't going to be cheaper. But if you have a dynamic environment; need web, asterisk, and database servers; scaleable storage; and off-site backup, EC2 starts getting more cost effective. Storing Asterisk realtime data in Amazon's SimpleDB and voicemail in S3, would make for a very interesting and scalable solution. -- Eric Chamberlain, Founder RF.com - http://RF.com/ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed
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[asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed
I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system. Here are some calculations I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's system. Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these calculations - but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may glom onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in there. http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which when compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth) only $38.56 more. Very interesting. JT --- John Todd email:jt...@digium.com Digium, Inc. | Asterisk Open Source Community Director 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville AL 35806 - USA direct: +1-256-428-6083 http://www.digium.com/ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:59:50AM -0800, John Todd wrote: I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system. Here are some calculations I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's system. Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these calculations - but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may glom onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in there. http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which when compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth) only $38.56 more. Very interesting. For 20$ or slightly more you can rent a Xen or OpenVZ virtual host which will probably do as well. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed
On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:59:50AM -0800, John Todd wrote: I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system. Here are some calculations I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's system. Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these calculations - but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may glom onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in there. http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which when compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth) only $38.56 more. Very interesting. For 20$ or slightly more you can rent a Xen or OpenVZ virtual host which will probably do as well. For the average Xen VM host, what's the price for bandwidth, assuming G.711 channels at the rates I quoted? I don't have a list of bandwidth costs here for other hosting providers. Of course, Amazon is simply the most well-known cloud system at the moment but you can fill in the slots in the spreadsheet with whatever data might be applicable. Amazon also has a decent IP network peering structure from what I've seen, so paths into their network are typically short and direct. How packets move around inside their network is still up to experimentation - waiting on someone to test jitter, packet loss (coughRONALD-AND-NIRcough) and other criteria. The wildcard in the calculation (which is not examined) is having enough bandwidth out of your office to handle X simultaneous calls, and how much that costs. JT --- John Todd email:jt...@digium.com Digium, Inc. | Asterisk Open Source Community Director 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville AL 35806 - USA direct: +1-256-428-6083 http://www.digium.com/ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on EC2 cloud computing - price assumptions - your brain needed
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:35:53AM -0800, John Todd wrote: On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 09:59:50AM -0800, John Todd wrote: I've been involved with getting better data for running Asterisk on the Amazon EC2 cloud computing system. Here are some calculations I've made on costs based on current published prices on Amazon's system. Feel free to tell me that I'm wrong with these calculations - but be specific if you find any problems, as I suspect others may glom onto these figures as gospel and I'd hate to have the wrong data in there. http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/misc/amazon-ec2.xls The net of my calculations is that a small instance of 20 users in a standard office environment would cost about $75 per month, which when compared to running a server in-house works out to be (raw cost, not including admin time and not discounting out-of-office bandwidth) only $38.56 more. Very interesting. For 20$ or slightly more you can rent a Xen or OpenVZ virtual host which will probably do as well. For the average Xen VM host, what's the price for bandwidth, assuming G.711 channels at the rates I quoted? I recently got myself a really cheap Xen hosting (10$ a month). It includes a bandwith usage of up to 2mbps . Note that I don't intend to use it for VoIP hosting. There are plenty of providers. You need to shop around a bit. I don't have a list of bandwidth costs here for other hosting providers. Of course, Amazon is simply the most well-known cloud system at the moment but you can fill in the slots in the spreadsheet with whatever data might be applicable. Amazon also has a decent IP network peering structure from what I've seen, so paths into their network are typically short and direct. The location of the hosting facility is something you can easily find with every such provider. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
