Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom behind NAT won't register to * server behind ALG

2007-08-30 Thread Al lists
Actually i'm using Polycom 501's behind nat and i have no issues.
what i usually do is putting static routeable IP for asterisk and using nat
and qualify in sip.conf.
no issues for me so far.
i'm a big fan of Polycom phones, quality of voice, working great with
asterisk and low failure rate.

On 8/30/07, Dovid B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eric "ManxPower" Wieling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
> Discussion" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom behind NAT won't register to *
> server
> behind ALG
>
>
> > Henry L.Coleman wrote:
> >> I think what Alex was trying to say was that Polycom IP Phones are an
> >> example of immature product development. While they look very nice and
> >> have a nice display the product doesn't compete very well compared to
> >> other manufacturers.
> >> The two most obvious flaws are that they cannot be NAT'ed so they
> cannot
> >> be used as Off Premise eXtensions phones and the other being that they
> >> take so long to configure and re-boot. I have a golden rule with any
> >> phone
> >> that I plan on installing for a customerIf I can't get it working
> >> within 20 minutes then don't use it. I'm afraid Polycom breaks my
> golden
> >> rule.
> >> With such a lot of competition in this market they should have sorted
> >> this
> >> out two years ago.
> >>
> >
> > Reboots should not happen very often.  This is a non-issue for most
> > people.
> >
> > I've never seen a phone that could not work with NAT with Asterisk.
> > Polycoms work just fine with NAT and Asterisk.  The nice thing about
> > Asterisk's NAT support is that the phone does not need to support NAT.
>
> Eric,
> Try using 5 Polycom's at a remote location behind NAT. Let me know when
> you
> need a drink ;) . I had a client with such an issue and the "fix" was a
> nice
> Edgemark or Sonicwall firewall that are set up for SIP and NAT issues. I
> prefer the Sonicwall.
>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom behind NAT won't register to * server behind ALG

2007-08-30 Thread Dovid B

- Original Message - 
From: "Eric "ManxPower" Wieling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial 
Discussion" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom behind NAT won't register to * server 
behind ALG


> Henry L.Coleman wrote:
>> I think what Alex was trying to say was that Polycom IP Phones are an
>> example of immature product development. While they look very nice and
>> have a nice display the product doesn't compete very well compared to
>> other manufacturers.
>> The two most obvious flaws are that they cannot be NAT'ed so they cannot
>> be used as Off Premise eXtensions phones and the other being that they
>> take so long to configure and re-boot. I have a golden rule with any 
>> phone
>> that I plan on installing for a customerIf I can't get it working
>> within 20 minutes then don't use it. I'm afraid Polycom breaks my golden
>> rule.
>> With such a lot of competition in this market they should have sorted 
>> this
>> out two years ago.
>>
>
> Reboots should not happen very often.  This is a non-issue for most 
> people.
>
> I've never seen a phone that could not work with NAT with Asterisk.
> Polycoms work just fine with NAT and Asterisk.  The nice thing about
> Asterisk's NAT support is that the phone does not need to support NAT.

Eric,
Try using 5 Polycom's at a remote location behind NAT. Let me know when you 
need a drink ;) . I had a client with such an issue and the "fix" was a nice 
Edgemark or Sonicwall firewall that are set up for SIP and NAT issues. I 
prefer the Sonicwall. 


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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom behind NAT won't register to * server behind ALG

2007-08-22 Thread Eric \"ManxPower\" Wieling
Henry L.Coleman wrote:
> I think what Alex was trying to say was that Polycom IP Phones are an
> example of immature product development. While they look very nice and
> have a nice display the product doesn't compete very well compared to
> other manufacturers.
> The two most obvious flaws are that they cannot be NAT'ed so they cannot
> be used as Off Premise eXtensions phones and the other being that they
> take so long to configure and re-boot. I have a golden rule with any phone
> that I plan on installing for a customerIf I can't get it working
> within 20 minutes then don't use it. I'm afraid Polycom breaks my golden
> rule.
> With such a lot of competition in this market they should have sorted this
> out two years ago.
> 

Reboots should not happen very often.  This is a non-issue for most people.

I've never seen a phone that could not work with NAT with Asterisk. 
Polycoms work just fine with NAT and Asterisk.  The nice thing about 
Asterisk's NAT support is that the phone does not need to support NAT.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom behind NAT won't register to * server behind ALG

2007-08-21 Thread Henry L.Coleman
I think what Alex was trying to say was that Polycom IP Phones are an
example of immature product development. While they look very nice and
have a nice display the product doesn't compete very well compared to
other manufacturers.
The two most obvious flaws are that they cannot be NAT'ed so they cannot
be used as Off Premise eXtensions phones and the other being that they
take so long to configure and re-boot. I have a golden rule with any phone
that I plan on installing for a customerIf I can't get it working
within 20 minutes then don't use it. I'm afraid Polycom breaks my golden
rule.
With such a lot of competition in this market they should have sorted this
out two years ago.

-- 
Henry L. Coleman.



< Alex Balashov>
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Matthew Warren wrote:
>
>> We have several networks, being an ISP, and have found that when
>> transversing one network say 192.168.2.x with the * box on a 192.168.1.x
>> the polycoms were able to communicate however sustained a lot of one way
>> audio problems.  Moving thim onto the same network is the only thing we
>> have been able to reliable do.
>
>Forgive what may be a naively misplaced line of questioning, but what
> precisely does this have to do with NAT as such?  Unless you mean to
> imply otherwise, it would seem to me you are referring to 192.168.1.0/24
> and 192.168.2.0/24 being intermediated by way of a router -- but not
> necessarily NAT'd?
>
> --
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> Evariste Systems
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Re: [asterisk-users] Polycom behind NAT won't register to * server behind ALG

2007-08-21 Thread Alex Balashov
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Matthew Warren wrote:

> We have several networks, being an ISP, and have found that when 
> transversing one network say 192.168.2.x with the * box on a 192.168.1.x 
> the polycoms were able to communicate however sustained a lot of one way 
> audio problems.  Moving thim onto the same network is the only thing we 
> have been able to reliable do.

   Forgive what may be a naively misplaced line of questioning, but what 
precisely does this have to do with NAT as such?  Unless you mean to
imply otherwise, it would seem to me you are referring to 192.168.1.0/24
and 192.168.2.0/24 being intermediated by way of a router -- but not 
necessarily NAT'd?

--
Alex Balashov
Evariste Systems
Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
Tel: +1-678-954-0670
Direct : +1-678-954-0671

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[asterisk-users] Polycom behind NAT won't register to * server behind ALG

2007-08-21 Thread Matthew Warren
Polycom's were simply not originally built for multi location VoIP.  There
is no NAT support in the Polycom's. We have several networks, being an ISP,
and have found that when transversing one network say 192.168.2.x with the *
box on a 192.168.1.x the polycoms were able to communicate however sustained
a lot of one way audio problems.  Moving thim onto the same network is the
only thing we have been able to reliable do.  According to Polycom Support
this is what they are intended for and no definitive answer as to whether
they would support Stun or another method in the future.  At least as of 6
months ago.

Matt


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[asterisk-users] Polycom behind NAT won't register to * server behind ALG

2007-08-21 Thread Marty Mastera
I’ve been tearing my hair out trying to get a Polycom phone (behind a NAT) to 
register to an * box behind a Cisco SIP ALG.  With known good credentials 
configured on the phone and in *, I get 403 Bad Auth when trying to register.  
If I put the phone onto the same LAN as * it works fine without changing any 
authentication parameters whatsoever.  If I make the secret blank (null) on the 
phone and *, it’s registers fine.  An X-Lite softphone works fine, and I 
already have a Cisco 7960 working in the same scenario but no go with the 
Polycom (I’ve tried a few different firmware versions, currently up to 2.02).

 

I also have configured Polycoms behind NAT to configure to * that is not behind 
a SIP ALG many times without trouble…it’s just with the SIP ALG that I’ve hit 
this wall…

 

I found this forum thread which seems to pinpoint the issue, but I’m not really 
understanding the suggested fix. Does anyone out there understand the MD5 
challenge/response and URI stuff that can give me some clue what to do?

 

HYPERLINK 
"http://forum.voxilla.com/asterisk-support-forum/sipura-asterisk-registration-failed-wrong-password-18730.html"http://forum.voxilla.com/asterisk-support-forum/sipura-asterisk-registration-failed-wrong-password-18730.html

 

 

Thanks!

 

mmastera

 


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