Re: [asterisk-users] The plain old PBX functionality
On 8/8/14, 14:05, Gergo Csibra wrote: Hi, back in the old analog telephony days there was digital PBX-es and digital system phonesets. This phonesets have had many individual illuminatable buttons connected with extensions. The PBX can show on the buttons if some extension is ringing (blinks) or busy (constant light), and the user can transfer the call with one touch (pressing one of this button). Because of the peer-to-peer nature of SIP, many of the digital PBX features can be difficult to reproduce. If you consider where the 'brains' of the system reside, you can see the reason. In the traditional digital PBX, all functionality was controlled by the PBX itself. It was a Master/Slave communication model. Phones were basically dumb terminals, how a button functioned was determined by the digital PBX. With SIP, phones and servers are peers. Master/Slave roles don't exist with SIP. Control is determined by the device that initiated the session. I will not go into the pro's and con's. But by dialing a URL, it's possible to entirely exclude 'the server' from a call. I search this functionality in Asterisk. What versions, and what extension functions (or other settings), and what VoIP phones can do this? The key thing in the SIP architecture to understand, the server DOES NOT control the phone. How a button functions depends on how each individual phone is configured. How a phone reacts to an instruction, depends on how the phone is configured. While it's possible to host a phone configuration template on the Asterisk server for all phones to use, it's actually independent from the Asterisk software. Depending on the make/model of the phone, most of the basic features (hold, transfer, redial) are available by default. To duplicate the digital PBX features you're looking for, will involve two groups of settings. Configuration on the server -and- configuration on the phone. SIP phones are NOT dumb terminals, you have to configure them to operate how you want. Sincerely, Brian LaVallee -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The plain old PBX functionality
On 7 August 2014 21:06, Kevin Larsen kevin.lar...@pioneerballoon.com wrote: back in the old analog telephony days there was digital PBX-es and digital system phonesets. This phonesets have had many individual illuminatable buttons connected with extensions. The PBX can show on the buttons if some extension is ringing (blinks) or busy (constant light), and the user can transfer the call with one touch (pressing one of this button). I search this functionality in Asterisk. What versions, and what extension functions (or other settings), and what VoIP phones can do this? Asterisk has had this functionality for a long time. The terms you want to search for are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) and Subscribe. I imagine that most sip phones have the necessary features to do BLF. I know the Polycom phones I use certainly do. The Digium branded phones do as well. Also certain models of Snom and Yealink phones. -- Ishfaq Malik Department: VOIP Support Company: Packnet Limited t: +44 (0)845 004 4994 f: +44 (0)161 660 9825 e: i...@pack-net.co.uk w: http://www.pack-net.co.uk Registered Address: PACKNET LIMITED, Duplex 2, Ducie House 37 Ducie Street Manchester, M1 2JW COMPANY REG NO. 04920552 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The plain old PBX functionality
On 8 Aug 2014, at 06:05, Gergo Csibra csi...@gmail.com wrote: back in the old analog telephony days there was digital PBX-es and digital system phonesets. This phonesets have had many individual illuminatable buttons connected with extensions. The PBX can show on the buttons if some extension is ringing (blinks) or busy (constant light), and the user can transfer the call with one touch (pressing one of this button). I search this functionality in Asterisk. What versions, and what extension functions (or other settings), and what VoIP phones can do this? It’s called presence, it’s in every version of Asterisk you’re likely to find. Most SIP handsets support it. All of it depends on how you configure it. Steve -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The plain old PBX functionality
On Friday 08 Aug 2014, Gergo Csibra wrote: Hi, back in the old analog telephony days there was digital PBX-es and digital system phonesets. This phonesets have had many individual illuminatable buttons connected with extensions. The PBX can show on the buttons if some extension is ringing (blinks) or busy (constant light), and the user can transfer the call with one touch (pressing one of this button). I search this functionality in Asterisk. What versions, and what extension functions (or other settings), and what VoIP phones can do this? What you are looking for is a Busy Lamp Field (BLF). This can usually be controlled by custom SIP headers (though naturally, every manufacturer's implementation is ever so slightly different). N.B. Be sure to *avoid* Digium phones if you want BLF functionality! Making use of this feature would require you to pollute your system by installing a toxic, binary-only module. -- AJS Note: Originating address only accepts e-mail from list! If replying off- list, change address to asterisk1list at earthshod dot co dot uk . -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The plain old PBX functionality
Almost all of the phones has this feature in build (Polycom,CISCO SPA,Digium etc..) Try going through this link https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Presence+State and setting up the right subscribe settings on the phone buttons; -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Gergo Csibra Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:05 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] The plain old PBX functionality Hi, back in the old analog telephony days there was digital PBX-es and digital system phonesets. This phonesets have had many individual illuminatable buttons connected with extensions. The PBX can show on the buttons if some extension is ringing (blinks) or busy (constant light), and the user can transfer the call with one touch (pressing one of this button). I search this functionality in Asterisk. What versions, and what extension functions (or other settings), and what VoIP phones can do this? -- Best regards, Gergomailto:csi...@gmail.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The plain old PBX functionality
Using the BLFs on Digium phones does not require the use of the Digium Phone Module for Asterisk, or DPMA. SchmoozeCom (the FreePBX guys) use the BLFs on Digium phones independently of the DPMA. I am not sure why a previous response refers to this module as 'toxic'. It is a free to use module which allows a host of Digium phone features to be quickly implemented with Asterisk, like security-enhanced auto provisioning. Digium phones are the only SIP phones in the world designed specifically to work with Asterisk, and each purchase helps to fund the ongoing development of open source Asterisk. In addition, they have a JavaScript API that allows anyone that wants to create custom apps on the phone to do so. They can, of course, work with any standard SIP system and can be provisioned using FTP/HTTP(S) and XML files, just like any other phone. On Friday, August 8, 2014, A J Stiles asterisk_l...@earthshod.co.uk wrote: On Friday 08 Aug 2014, Gergo Csibra wrote: Hi, back in the old analog telephony days there was digital PBX-es and digital system phonesets. This phonesets have had many individual illuminatable buttons connected with extensions. The PBX can show on the buttons if some extension is ringing (blinks) or busy (constant light), and the user can transfer the call with one touch (pressing one of this button). I search this functionality in Asterisk. What versions, and what extension functions (or other settings), and what VoIP phones can do this? What you are looking for is a Busy Lamp Field (BLF). This can usually be controlled by custom SIP headers (though naturally, every manufacturer's implementation is ever so slightly different). N.B. Be sure to *avoid* Digium phones if you want BLF functionality! Making use of this feature would require you to pollute your system by installing a toxic, binary-only module. -- AJS Note: Originating address only accepts e-mail from list! If replying off- list, change address to asterisk1list at earthshod dot co dot uk . -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The plain old PBX functionality
I am not sure why a previous response refers to this module as 'toxic'. It is a free to use module which allows a host of Digium phone features to be quickly implemented with Asterisk, like security-enhanced auto provisioning. Without creating a large off-topic response, there is a segment of the open source movement that holds that any software that does not come with source code is bad and should not be touched/used in any fashion by any person/company.-- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The plain old PBX functionality
If you think it is bad then do not use it; else use it; There is no natural law that requires to publish the sources, even if the software is otherwise free. You can always write your own modules and publish the sources. I have difficulties seeing your point. Without creating a large off-topic response, there is a segment of the open source movement that holds that any software that does not come with source code is bad and should not be touched/used in any fashion by any person/company. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] The plain old PBX functionality
Hi, back in the old analog telephony days there was digital PBX-es and digital system phonesets. This phonesets have had many individual illuminatable buttons connected with extensions. The PBX can show on the buttons if some extension is ringing (blinks) or busy (constant light), and the user can transfer the call with one touch (pressing one of this button). I search this functionality in Asterisk. What versions, and what extension functions (or other settings), and what VoIP phones can do this? -- Best regards, Gergo mailto:csi...@gmail.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The plain old PBX functionality
back in the old analog telephony days there was digital PBX-es and digital system phonesets. This phonesets have had many individual illuminatable buttons connected with extensions. The PBX can show on the buttons if some extension is ringing (blinks) or busy (constant light), and the user can transfer the call with one touch (pressing one of this button). I search this functionality in Asterisk. What versions, and what extension functions (or other settings), and what VoIP phones can do this? Asterisk has had this functionality for a long time. The terms you want to search for are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) and Subscribe. I imagine that most sip phones have the necessary features to do BLF. I know the Polycom phones I use certainly do. The Digium branded phones do as well.-- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] The plain old PBX functionality
Hi, back in the old analog telephony days there was digital PBX-es and digital system phonesets. This phonesets have had many individual illuminatable buttons connected with extensions. The PBX can show on the buttons if some extension is ringing (blinks) or busy (constant light), and the user can transfer the call with one touch (pressing one of this button). I search this functionality in Asterisk. What versions, and what extension functions (or other settings), and what VoIP phones can do this? -- Best regards, Gergomailto:csi...@gmail.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
