Re: [Asterisk-Users] Terrible crackling on analogue line and X100Pcard
Rich Adamson ... Okay. There are two fairly small integrated circuits on the board. Can you post the part numbers on those chips? Not at the moment, unfortunately. The card is in a datacentre 200 miles away. However, and while I appreciate that you can't read anything from this, but this is the card: http://i24.ebayimg.com/01/i/02/c3/8b/43_1.JPG (the same Ebay vendor is selling dozens of them) NMI = non maskable interrupt (or somthing like that). Those messages would suggest there is a problem with that card and the wcfxo driver. Right. The mode is FCC is saying the zaptel drivers are assuming a card that matches US telco standards. Again, without the chip set numbers, I can't tell if that card will work correctly in the UK. If it does not support UK standards, not likely you'll ever get the echo to go away. Sounds like I've bought a hooky card then :( Okay, then there is about a 90% chance the card's chip set was designed for the US telco standards. I'll be able to tell more once you post those part numbers. It's going to be a couple of weeks before I can do that, unfortunately. Are you using a opermode=UK or anything like that in /etc/zaptel.conf? No. Should I try that or do you not think it'll make that much difference in light of the findings above? It would appear you have several interrupts that aren't being used. Have you tried looking at the bios setup to see if you can disable any unused interrupts (like 3 for com1 port)? Yes I tried all that. Even freeing up other interrupts caused the system to fail to boot. I didn't understand it. If there is nothing in the bios relative to configuring interrupts, then you only choice is to move the card to other slots in hope of finding one that assigns a different interrupt. Now that I didn't try. There is at least a better then 50% chance sharing the interrupt between the wcfxo driver and the raid controller (#11) is causing at least some of the crackling noise. You might try establishing a call and do a large file copy (to exercise the disk) to see if disk activity causes the noise. I tried this and it made no noticeable difference. The crackling's always quite bad to start with, and since RAID controllers are basically small computers themselves it probably stands to reason that activity will be pretty much constant. [zttest] Is that good? Yes, that looks good. That's something at least! You might try going back to an earlier version (or cvs head) to see if that has any impact on the noise. I think that in light of what you've advised above I don't think this is the problem. I also completely disagree with regressing to former versions of software to hack something into working, since I might actually need a feature or bugfix that's provided by the later version in order to have something else working! So, here's what I think I'll do: 1) I'm going to start with buying a genuine X100P, to eliminate the possibility of cheapness affecting things. However, as I said, I'm having tremendous trouble sourcing one. Does anyone know of any outlets in the UK who supply them? I've seen them for sale on several US websites, but I'm going to assume that they'll only work with US telcos? 2) Once I've got one, I'll have another stab at the interrupt mess again. I'll try to move the card between PCI slots and have another, more structured, session with the BIOS. Sound like a plan? Thanks Stuart ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Terrible crackling on analogue line and X100Pcard
[DC] Well mine is legitimate digium And I'm in the usa Here is the output but I have no idea what that means? [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 490763 XT-PIC timer 1: 2 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 9:4885971 XT-PIC wcfxo 10: 34309 XT-PIC eth0 11:4885856 XT-PIC wcfxo 12:4886150 XT-PIC ztdummy, usb-uhci 14: 7662 XT-PIC ide0 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 The digium card used in the US will match the telco impedance specs. Your x100p card is on interrupt 9 by itself (not shared with any other i/o device). That's a good thing. Those two items rule out a number of items in terms of what might be causing the crackling noise. What * version are you using Dean? Have you tried other versions? [DC] I use [EMAIL PROTECTED] V 0.8 [DC] this has been an ongoing problem so not sure if it is related to version (as I've used asterisk head up until about 6 months ago and version 0.4,0.6 and now 0.8 version of [EMAIL PROTECTED] [DC] There has been some development going on (and some maintenance) relative to iax, rtp, jitterbuffer, etc. Maybe something did or didn't get moved into stable impacting this. My next step would be to implement cvs-head to see if that corrects the problem. Don't know of any other way to ID the issue other then that. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Terrible crackling on analogue line and X100Pcard
Okay. There are two fairly small integrated circuits on the board. Can you post the part numbers on those chips? Not at the moment, unfortunately. The card is in a datacentre 200 miles away. However, and while I appreciate that you can't read anything from this, but this is the card: http://i24.ebayimg.com/01/i/02/c3/8b/43_1.JPG (the same Ebay vendor is selling dozens of them) NMI = non maskable interrupt (or somthing like that). Those messages would suggest there is a problem with that card and the wcfxo driver. Right. The mode is FCC is saying the zaptel drivers are assuming a card that matches US telco standards. Again, without the chip set numbers, I can't tell if that card will work correctly in the UK. If it does not support UK standards, not likely you'll ever get the echo to go away. Sounds like I've bought a hooky card then :( Okay, then there is about a 90% chance the card's chip set was designed for the US telco standards. I'll be able to tell more once you post those part numbers. It's going to be a couple of weeks before I can do that, unfortunately. Are you using a opermode=UK or anything like that in /etc/zaptel.conf? No. Should I try that or do you not think it'll make that much difference in light of the findings above? It would appear you have several interrupts that aren't being used. Have you tried looking at the bios setup to see if you can disable any unused interrupts (like 3 for com1 port)? Yes I tried all that. Even freeing up other interrupts caused the system to fail to boot. I didn't understand it. If there is nothing in the bios relative to configuring interrupts, then you only choice is to move the card to other slots in hope of finding one that assigns a different interrupt. Now that I didn't try. There is at least a better then 50% chance sharing the interrupt between the wcfxo driver and the raid controller (#11) is causing at least some of the crackling noise. You might try establishing a call and do a large file copy (to exercise the disk) to see if disk activity causes the noise. I tried this and it made no noticeable difference. The crackling's always quite bad to start with, and since RAID controllers are basically small computers themselves it probably stands to reason that activity will be pretty much constant. [zttest] Is that good? Yes, that looks good. That's something at least! You might try going back to an earlier version (or cvs head) to see if that has any impact on the noise. I think that in light of what you've advised above I don't think this is the problem. I also completely disagree with regressing to former versions of software to hack something into working, since I might actually need a feature or bugfix that's provided by the later version in order to have something else working! So, here's what I think I'll do: 1) I'm going to start with buying a genuine X100P, to eliminate the possibility of cheapness affecting things. However, as I said, I'm having tremendous trouble sourcing one. Does anyone know of any outlets in the UK who supply them? I've seen them for sale on several US websites, but I'm going to assume that they'll only work with US telcos? 2) Once I've got one, I'll have another stab at the interrupt mess again. I'll try to move the card between PCI slots and have another, more structured, session with the BIOS. Sound like a plan? Sounds reasonable for starters. Somewhere in your plan I'd really suggest implementing another version at least on a temp basis as one mechanism to rule out a problem with your current version. It's not that hard really. Also, keep in mind the x100p cards were designed years ago as a modem (not a voip/pstn interface). Having been around this list for over a year now, I don't remember hearing/seeing anyone say they found a x100p card or compatible that truly supports the UK standards. I'd have to guess the OEMs targeted the US modem market at that time, so mucking around with other x100p compatibles are just as likely to result in time consuming frustration. Some of the compatible cards use an Intel chipset. If you look at the Intel specs, Intel had two different chipsets on their cards; one targeted for the US market, and the other for limited non-US markets. Even if you find a card targeted for the non-US market, I wouldn't bet a nickle the interrupt issues shown in your output will be addressed. The TDM400 card (with appropriate modules) is the replacement for the x100p, and the chipset in use on those modules _do_ support many different international standards. The early versions of the TDM card had several problems (output of dmesg showed Wildcard TDM400P REV E/F as an example), however the current version (Wildcard TDM400P REV H) seems to be far more stable. (I just replaced my old card yesterday with a new one provided by digium as an
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Terrible crackling on analogue line and X100Pcard
Rich Adamson wrote: snip The TDM400 card (with appropriate modules) is the replacement for the x100p, and the chipset in use on those modules _do_ support many different international standards. The early versions of the TDM card had several problems (output of dmesg showed Wildcard TDM400P REV E/F as an example), however the current version (Wildcard TDM400P REV H) seems to be far more stable. (I just replaced my old card yesterday with a new one provided by digium as an in-warrantee RMA replacement.) The card I have reports from software that it is an E/F but it clearly says on the board it is revision H. Curious. FWIW, I use the clone card for FXO, and have no problems with any crackle. The echo problem resolves itself after a few seconds of training but I am using it on a VERY short loop to connect to an electromechanical step by step switch John Novack ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Terrible crackling on analogue line and X100Pcard
The TDM400 card (with appropriate modules) is the replacement for the x100p, and the chipset in use on those modules _do_ support many different international standards. The early versions of the TDM card had several problems (output of dmesg showed Wildcard TDM400P REV E/F as an example), however the current version (Wildcard TDM400P REV H) seems to be far more stable. (I just replaced my old card yesterday with a new one provided by digium as an in-warrantee RMA replacement.) The card I have reports from software that it is an E/F but it clearly says on the board it is revision H. Curious. FWIW, I use the clone card for FXO, and have no problems with any crackle. The echo problem resolves itself after a few seconds of training but I am using it on a VERY short loop to connect to an electromechanical step by step switch Its my understanding (but possibly wrong) the E/F version was the first release of the TDM card which I purchased direct from digium a few days before it was announced. The a few weeks/months after the release, they were RMA'ing those boards to make a modification to them (adding a jumper or something to it). The card still reported itself as E/F. Then sometime after that, another release of the card quitely happened, but I don't have any knowledge of what the changes were. Somtime after that (and maybe even some other releases of the card), the Rev H came out (which is what digium is currently shipping), and it reports itself as Rev H as well (when using cvs head). This current Rev H has several additional components on the card and the fxo modules have printing on them showing x100. I'd have to guess this particular board probably has some revisions involving the Tiger Jet interface. Its the same old Tiger Jet chip, but the area around the chip is laid out differently suggesting a redesign of the printed circuit board itself and involves more components. That's about the best I can summarize for it. Now I'm waiting to see if this one goes out to lunch every week or two. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Terrible crackling on analogue line and X100Pcard
Dean Collins wrote ... Using 2 digium genuine x100p's in a dell with riser card. I'm wondering if it is something to do with the riser because it doesn't seem to matter if I swap various cords, positions, etc. Right, that's interesting. My card too is in a Dell (2550) with a riser card. That's a pig! Has *anything* you've done improved it at all? Stuart ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Terrible crackling on analogue line and X100Pcard
Rich Adamson wrote ... What country are you in, and does the chipset on the compat card support the telco standards in your country? I'm in the UK. The card was bought in the UK, but from Ebay, so I suppose it could have originated from anywhere. The card dials and answers calls without a problem, so it must be doing *something* right. I didn't *mean* to cheap out over this - I tried to buy a genuine Digium part, but they don't seem to do it any more and I can't find it for sale anywhere. The Ebay vendor claimed it was 100% compatible. The card reports itself as: 00:02.0 Communication controller: Individual Computers - Jens Schoenfeld Intel 537 When the wcfxo module loads, dmesg reports: Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 196 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device :00:02.0 Uhhuh. NMI received. Dazed and confused, but trying to continue You probably have a hardware problem with your RAM chips wcfxo: DAA mode is 'FCC' Found a Wildcard FXO: Generic Clone Registered tone zone 4 (United Kingdom) The 3rd and 4th lines are suspicous, but I've no idea what they mean. Does it refer to the system RAM or some sort of special RAM on the card? What is NMI? If the chipset doesn't match your telco standards, there is a high probability you won't get rid of the echo. If it does match, then try echotraining=800 echocancel=yes I already use those parameters in zapata.conf, they make no difference :( Regarding the crackling noise, have you checked for shared interrupts (cat /proc/interrupts)? This is the output: CPU0 0: 211266080 XT-PIC timer 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 7: 488230 XT-PIC eth0 10:2113812 XT-PIC eth1 11: 211520617 XT-PIC aacraid, wcfxo 14: 11 XT-PIC ide0 NMI: 1 ERR: 60 It's sharing an interrupt with the RAID controller. I did try to separate the interrupts when I installed the card, but any combination other than that automatically assigned by the BIOS caused the Linux kernel to fail to even uncompress at boot time, much less boot the system, which struck me as a pretty alarming failure. If you run cat /proc/interrupts every ten seconds, do you see calculated interrupt values of about 1,000? I don't know what you mean here. Go to /usr/src/zaptel directory and run ./zttest Do you get something close to 100% over some period of time? Yep: # ./zttest Opened pseudo zap interface, measuring accuracy... 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% Is that good? What version of asterisk are you running? 1.0.7 plus Zaptel of the same version. Thanks Stuart ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Terrible crackling on analogue line and X100Pcard
What country are you in, and does the chipset on the compat card support the telco standards in your country? If the chipset doesn't match your telco standards, there is a high probability you won't get rid of the echo. If it does match, then try echotraining=800 echocancel=yes Regarding the crackling noise, have you checked for shared interrupts (cat /proc/interrupts)? If you run cat /proc/interrupts every ten seconds, do you see calculated interrupt values of about 1,000? Go to /usr/src/zaptel directory and run ./zttest Do you get something close to 100% over some period of time? What version of asterisk are you running? [DC] Well mine is legitimate digium And I'm in the usa Here is the output but I have no idea what that means? [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 490763 XT-PIC timer 1: 2 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 9:4885971 XT-PIC wcfxo 10: 34309 XT-PIC eth0 11:4885856 XT-PIC wcfxo 12:4886150 XT-PIC ztdummy, usb-uhci 14: 7662 XT-PIC ide0 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 Cheers, Dean ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Terrible crackling on analogue line and X100Pcard
What country are you in, and does the chipset on the compat card support the telco standards in your country? If the chipset doesn't match your telco standards, there is a high probability you won't get rid of the echo. If it does match, then try echotraining=800 echocancel=yes Regarding the crackling noise, have you checked for shared interrupts (cat /proc/interrupts)? If you run cat /proc/interrupts every ten seconds, do you see calculated interrupt values of about 1,000? Go to /usr/src/zaptel directory and run ./zttest Do you get something close to 100% over some period of time? What version of asterisk are you running? [DC] Well mine is legitimate digium And I'm in the usa Here is the output but I have no idea what that means? [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 490763 XT-PIC timer 1: 2 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 9:4885971 XT-PIC wcfxo 10: 34309 XT-PIC eth0 11:4885856 XT-PIC wcfxo 12:4886150 XT-PIC ztdummy, usb-uhci 14: 7662 XT-PIC ide0 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 The digium card used in the US will match the telco impedance specs. Your x100p card is on interrupt 9 by itself (not shared with any other i/o device). That's a good thing. Those two items rule out a number of items in terms of what might be causing the crackling noise. What * version are you using Dean? Have you tried other versions? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Terrible crackling on analogue line and X100Pcard
What country are you in, and does the chipset on the compat card support the telco standards in your country? I'm in the UK. The card was bought in the UK, but from Ebay, so I suppose it could have originated from anywhere. The card dials and answers calls without a problem, so it must be doing *something* right. Okay. There are two fairly small integrated circuits on the board. Can you post the part numbers on those chips? The card reports itself as: 00:02.0 Communication controller: Individual Computers - Jens Schoenfeld Intel 537 When the wcfxo module loads, dmesg reports: Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 196 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device :00:02.0 Uhhuh. NMI received. Dazed and confused, but trying to continue You probably have a hardware problem with your RAM chips wcfxo: DAA mode is 'FCC' Found a Wildcard FXO: Generic Clone Registered tone zone 4 (United Kingdom) The 3rd and 4th lines are suspicous, but I've no idea what they mean. Does it refer to the system RAM or some sort of special RAM on the card? What is NMI? NMI = non maskable interrupt (or somthing like that). Those messages would suggest there is a problem with that card and the wcfxo driver. The mode is FCC is saying the zaptel drivers are assuming a card that matches US telco standards. Again, without the chip set numbers, I can't tell if that card will work correctly in the UK. If it does not support UK standards, not likely you'll ever get the echo to go away. If the chipset doesn't match your telco standards, there is a high probability you won't get rid of the echo. If it does match, then try echotraining=800 echocancel=yes I already use those parameters in zapata.conf, they make no difference :( Okay, then there is about a 90% chance the card's chip set was designed for the US telco standards. I'll be able to tell more once you post those part numbers. Are you using a opermode=UK or anything like that in /etc/zaptel.conf? Regarding the crackling noise, have you checked for shared interrupts (cat /proc/interrupts)? This is the output: CPU0 0: 211266080 XT-PIC timer 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 7: 488230 XT-PIC eth0 10:2113812 XT-PIC eth1 11: 211520617 XT-PIC aacraid, wcfxo 14: 11 XT-PIC ide0 NMI: 1 ERR: 60 It's sharing an interrupt with the RAID controller. I did try to separate the interrupts when I installed the card, but any combination other than that automatically assigned by the BIOS caused the Linux kernel to fail to even uncompress at boot time, much less boot the system, which struck me as a pretty alarming failure. It would appear you have several interrupts that aren't being used. Have you tried looking at the bios setup to see if you can disable any unused interrupts (like 3 for com1 port)? If there is nothing in the bios relative to configuring interrupts, then you only choice is to move the card to other slots in hope of finding one that assigns a different interrupt. There is at least a better then 50% chance sharing the interrupt between the wcfxo driver and the raid controller (#11) is causing at least some of the crackling noise. You might try establishing a call and do a large file copy (to exercise the disk) to see if disk activity causes the noise. Go to /usr/src/zaptel directory and run ./zttest Do you get something close to 100% over some period of time? Yep: # ./zttest Opened pseudo zap interface, measuring accuracy... 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% 99.987793% Is that good? Yes, that looks good. What version of asterisk are you running? 1.0.7 plus Zaptel of the same version. You might try going back to an earlier version (or cvs head) to see if that has any impact on the noise. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Terrible crackling on analogue line and X100Pcard
[DC] Well mine is legitimate digium And I'm in the usa Here is the output but I have no idea what that means? [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 490763 XT-PIC timer 1: 2 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 9:4885971 XT-PIC wcfxo 10: 34309 XT-PIC eth0 11:4885856 XT-PIC wcfxo 12:4886150 XT-PIC ztdummy, usb-uhci 14: 7662 XT-PIC ide0 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 The digium card used in the US will match the telco impedance specs. Your x100p card is on interrupt 9 by itself (not shared with any other i/o device). That's a good thing. Those two items rule out a number of items in terms of what might be causing the crackling noise. What * version are you using Dean? Have you tried other versions? [DC] I use [EMAIL PROTECTED] V 0.8 [DC] this has been an ongoing problem so not sure if it is related to version (as I've used asterisk head up until about 6 months ago and version 0.4,0.6 and now 0.8 version of [EMAIL PROTECTED] [DC] Cheers, Dean ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
