RE: [Asterisk-Users] Ring power on Analog adapters

2003-11-24 Thread mattf
Hello,

Ok, I've tried tinkering with the ring voltage (this is an editable variable
on the Sipure SPA-2000) and I still can't get it to work. I plug a generic
POTS line in and it works, I plug an analog port from our old Comdial PBX in
and it works. 

with the sipura adapter I've tried changing the ring voltage in the range
(20V to 90V) and the frequency from 10Hz to 100Hz both in 5 step increments
and nothing seems to work.

Do these analog - SIP VOIP adapters truely supply the 24V that a POTS line
supplies?

Anybody have any ideas why this fax machine won't work with any analog
adapter I've tried?


Thanks,

MATT---


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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:07 PM
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24 VDC and 20 mA are loop current parameters. Ringing are into the range 
of 50-90 VAC and 15-30 Hz.

Jorge

mattf wrote:

Hello,

I have a big old Fax machine that will only pick up a ring at 24volts and
20mA(minimum) ring[according to the technical specs manual]. None of my SIP
- Analog phone adapters supply this:

Cisco - 50 volts
SIPURA - 70 volts
Handytone - who knows, but it doesn't work

can anyone tell me if there are any analog adapters or channel banks that
can send a 24V 20mA ring signal?

Also, does anyone know what voltage the Digium analog PCI cards send out
for
ring?

Thanks,

MATT---
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Ring power on Analog adapters

2003-11-24 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
 Do these analog - SIP VOIP adapters truely supply the 24V that a POTS
 line
 supplies?

Strictly speaking, the telephone line isn't 24V.

it's a 20mA DC current loop, with a ~80-110VAC ring signal.

 Anybody have any ideas why this fax machine won't work with any analog
 adapter I've tried?

It's got an exceptionally high REN?  If you want, you can try uncommenting 
KFLAGS+=-DBOOST_RINGER in the zaptel Makefile if you've got a TDM400P 
card...  other than that I don't know what else to tell you.

Regards,
Andrew
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Ring power on Analog adapters

2003-11-24 Thread Jim Flagg
 Anybody have any ideas why this fax machine won't work with any analog
 adapter I've tried?

Have you verified you have the right tip-ring polarity?  Maybe this is one of
those few devices that it makes a difference when it is backwards.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Ring power on Analog adapters

2003-11-24 Thread Jorge Mendoza
I assume that you have tested a analog phone with your ATA and it works. 
If this is true, I suspect that your fax machine does not work with 24 
VDC but 48 VDC. POTS line and old PBX supply -48 VDC.

Jorge

mattf wrote:

Hello,

Ok, I've tried tinkering with the ring voltage (this is an editable variable
on the Sipure SPA-2000) and I still can't get it to work. I plug a generic
POTS line in and it works, I plug an analog port from our old Comdial PBX in
and it works. 

with the sipura adapter I've tried changing the ring voltage in the range
(20V to 90V) and the frequency from 10Hz to 100Hz both in 5 step increments
and nothing seems to work.
Do these analog - SIP VOIP adapters truely supply the 24V that a POTS line
supplies?
Anybody have any ideas why this fax machine won't work with any analog
adapter I've tried?
Thanks,

MATT---

-Original Message-
From: Jorge Mendoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Ring power on Analog adapters
24 VDC and 20 mA are loop current parameters. Ringing are into the range 
of 50-90 VAC and 15-30 Hz.

Jorge

mattf wrote:

 

Hello,

I have a big old Fax machine that will only pick up a ring at 24volts and
20mA(minimum) ring[according to the technical specs manual]. None of my SIP
- Analog phone adapters supply this:
Cisco - 50 volts
SIPURA - 70 volts
Handytone - who knows, but it doesn't work
can anyone tell me if there are any analog adapters or channel banks that
can send a 24V 20mA ring signal?
Also, does anyone know what voltage the Digium analog PCI cards send out
   

for
 

ring?

Thanks,

MATT---
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Ring power on Analog adapters

2003-11-24 Thread Steve Underwood
mattf wrote:

Hello,

Ok, I've tried tinkering with the ring voltage (this is an editable variable
on the Sipure SPA-2000) and I still can't get it to work. I plug a generic
POTS line in and it works, I plug an analog port from our old Comdial PBX in
and it works. 

with the sipura adapter I've tried changing the ring voltage in the range
(20V to 90V) and the frequency from 10Hz to 100Hz both in 5 step increments
and nothing seems to work.
90V, 25Hz would be the best starting point. That is the commonest form 
of ring voltage you will find.

Do these analog - SIP VOIP adapters truely supply the 24V that a POTS line
supplies?
A POTS line supplies 48V, not 24V. Its loop current is usually more like 
35mA than 20mA. A number of PBX and CTI line cards supply only 24V (the 
Dialogic station cards, for example) and a number of phones don't work 
properly with them. If your adaptor really supplies 24V, that might be 
the problem.

Anybody have any ideas why this fax machine won't work with any analog
adapter I've tried?
Note that unles you use A-law or u-law exclusively through the signal 
path, no type of modem will work through a VoIP adaptor.

Thanks,

MATT---

Regards,
Steve
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