Re: [Aus-soaring] Gerhard Waibel visit to Australia
Will he be coming to Melbourne? Peter Champness On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.netwrote: ** Good morning all Gerhard Waibel will be our guest during a visit to Adelaide in early November. He doesn't really need an introduction other than to say that he is the designer of ASW 12, ASW 15, ASW 17, ASW 19, ASW 20, ASW 22, ASW 24, ASW 27 and ASW 28 sailplanes. Soon after Gerhard retired he was asked to design the CONCORDIA for Dick Butler. The CONCORDIA is a glider of true superlatives. With a super high wing loading, an L/D exceeding 70:1 and an unprecedented aspect ratio it is by far the best performing glider ever built. Lately Gerhard has prepared a presentation on the project which he is willing to share with us in the evening of the 5th of November. Please contact me off line (ec...@internode.on.net) if you want to hear Gerhard speak. I need to find a suitable venue and it would be helpful to get a grip on the number of people attending. Kind regards to all Bernard Eckey ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gerhard Waibel visit to Australia
Hi Peter I understand Gerhard will drive from Melbourne to Adelaide via the 'Great Ocean Road'. Unfortunately that's all I know! Kind regards Bernard _ From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Peter Champness Sent: Monday, 2 September 2013 9:48 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gerhard Waibel visit to Australia Will he be coming to Melbourne? Peter Champness On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net wrote: Good morning all Gerhard Waibel will be our guest during a visit to Adelaide in early November. He doesn't really need an introduction other than to say that he is the designer of ASW 12, ASW 15, ASW 17, ASW 19, ASW 20, ASW 22, ASW 24, ASW 27 and ASW 28 sailplanes. Soon after Gerhard retired he was asked to design the CONCORDIA for Dick Butler. The CONCORDIA is a glider of true superlatives. With a super high wing loading, an L/D exceeding 70:1 and an unprecedented aspect ratio it is by far the best performing glider ever built. Lately Gerhard has prepared a presentation on the project which he is willing to share with us in the evening of the 5th of November. Please contact me off line (ec...@internode.on.net) if you want to hear Gerhard speak. I need to find a suitable venue and it would be helpful to get a grip on the number of people attending. Kind regards to all Bernard Eckey ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gerhard Waibel visit to Australia
On 03/09/2013, at 8:10 AM, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net wrote: I understand Gerhard will drive from Melbourne to Adelaide via the 'Great Ocean Road'. Unfortunately that's all I know! Much more scenic to fly it, y'know :-) - markinline: 100_5653.jpeg___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gerhard Waibel visit to Australia
At 08:34 AM 3/09/2013, you wrote: Much more scenic to fly it, y'know :-) - mark From the RV-6 ? Mike ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Hello
Good morning all Please celebrate a milestone with us! Last night we received the thirtieth order for an ASG 29. May the Australian Dollar remain as strong as this for a long time to come! Kind regards from Adelaide Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Hello
0.645 Euro is all it buys right now ( Westpac this morning) Not so strong after all as it has been over 0.80 not so long ago. Mike At 09:37 AM 3/09/2013, you wrote: Good morning all Please celebrate a milestone with us! Last night we received the thirtieth order for an ASG 29. May the Australian Dollar remain as strong as this for a long time to come! Kind regards from Adelaide Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Hello
Hi Mike Why don't you look at the bright side? The exchange rate is still so much better than it was only three or so years ago!!! Even allowing for the recent slight decline of our currency against the Euro new gliders are now significantly cheaper for Australian customers. In fact they are about 30% cheaper (or should I say less costly) than a few years back. There is hardly any need to paint everything in a negative light. Kind regards Bernard _ From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2013 9:15 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Hello 0.645 Euro is all it buys right now ( Westpac this morning) Not so strong after all as it has been over 0.80 not so long ago. Mike At 09:37 AM 3/09/2013, you wrote: Good morning all Please celebrate a milestone with us! Last night we received the thirtieth order for an ASG 29. May the Australian Dollar remain as strong as this for a long time to come! Kind regards from Adelaide Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/ tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Hello
I see, pointing out reality is painting everything in a negative light. Longer term the Aussie dollar has been around 0.60 Euro. Currently gliders are about 7.5% cheaper than when this was the case. During the GFC it went down to under 0.50 for a while, as low as 0.49 or 0.48 I think. It then recovered to 0.60 or slightly higher by late 2009 and continued to rise to over 0.80 and in the last year has slipped to where it is now. If you bought 100,000 Euro at 0.8 it cost A$125,000 If you do that today the same number of Euro will cost you A$155,000 and change, a 24% increase. Hardly all that minor. The exchange rate is back to where it was in February 2010. The peak was August 2012 at a rate of 0.85 and a bit. A 31% decline since then. See here: http://www.oanda.com/currency/historical-rates/ you can set up the Euro-AUD rate and look back 5 years. The trajectory right now isn't looking good. If you are planning on buying a glider it would be a good idea to buy the Euro now or get forward cover. Mike At 10:22 AM 3/09/2013, you wrote: Hi Mike Why don't you look at the bright side? The exchange rate is still so much better than it was only three or so years ago!!! Even allowing for the recent slight decline of our currency against the Euro new gliders are now significantly cheaper for Australian customers. In fact they are about 30% cheaper (or should I say less costly) than a few years back. There is hardly any need to paint everything in a negative light. Kind regards Bernard -- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2013 9:15 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Hello 0.645 Euro is all it buys right now ( Westpac this morning) Not so strong after all as it has been over 0.80 not so long ago. Mike At 09:37 AM 3/09/2013, you wrote: Good morning all Please celebrate a milestone with us! Last night we received the thirtieth order for an ASG 29. May the Australian Dollar remain as strong as this for a long time to come! Kind regards from Adelaide Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Hello
Hi All, Thanks for doing the sums, Mike. I haven't checked your figures but they feel about right, so I have to agree with your conclusions. Bernard, I loved your little aside ... or should I say less costly. It covers the situation nicely! BTW, congrats on reaching the No. 30 ASG 29 milestone. Yeah the time for picking up a used glider from overseas, at the bottom of the market, has passed. However if you want an ASW 20BL (15/16.6 m), from Ararat, Victoria, ready to go, with no import hassles and no waiting - the gliding season is nigh - send me an email, with your phone number, and I will get back to you to discuss same. All REASONABLE (not silly), offers will be considered. Many images are available. Regards, Gary From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:18 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Hello I see, pointing out reality is painting everything in a negative light. Longer term the Aussie dollar has been around 0.60 Euro. Currently gliders are about 7.5% cheaper than when this was the case. During the GFC it went down to under 0.50 for a while, as low as 0.49 or 0.48 I think. It then recovered to 0.60 or slightly higher by late 2009 and continued to rise to over 0.80 and in the last year has slipped to where it is now. If you bought 100,000 Euro at 0.8 it cost A$125,000 If you do that today the same number of Euro will cost you A$155,000 and change, a 24% increase. Hardly all that minor. The exchange rate is back to where it was in February 2010. The peak was August 2012 at a rate of 0.85 and a bit. A 31% decline since then. See here: http://www.oanda.com/currency/historical-rates/ you can set up the Euro-AUD rate and look back 5 years. The trajectory right now isn't looking good. If you are planning on buying a glider it would be a good idea to buy the Euro now or get forward cover. Mike At 10:22 AM 3/09/2013, you wrote: Hi Mike Why don't you look at the bright side? The exchange rate is still so much better than it was only three or so years ago!!! Even allowing for the recent slight decline of our currency against the Euro new gliders are now significantly cheaper for Australian customers. In fact they are about 30% cheaper (or should I say less costly) than a few years back. There is hardly any need to paint everything in a negative light. Kind regards Bernard _ From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [ mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2013 9:15 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Hello 0.645 Euro is all it buys right now ( Westpac this morning) Not so strong after all as it has been over 0.80 not so long ago. Mike At 09:37 AM 3/09/2013, you wrote: Good morning all Please celebrate a milestone with us! Last night we received the thirtieth order for an ASG 29. May the Australian Dollar remain as strong as this for a long time to come! Kind regards from Adelaide Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/ tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/ tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Hello
Hi Mike Right now I'm also suggesting to arrange forward cover to my customers. In fact a fair few of them have paid the bulk of the purchase price upfront and by doing so locked in the exchange rate at the time of ordering their new glider. But back to your posting now! The point I'm trying to make is that the bulk of ASG 29s came into the country when the exchange rate was significantly lower than what it is at the moment. As a result today's customers enjoy a significant cost reduction despite of the inflation related increase in the ex-works price. Mike, I regard this as something positive but you are quite within your rights to point out that we have seen even better exchange rates in the past. Kind regards to all Bernard _ From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:48 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Hello I see, pointing out reality is painting everything in a negative light. Longer term the Aussie dollar has been around 0.60 Euro. Currently gliders are about 7.5% cheaper than when this was the case. During the GFC it went down to under 0.50 for a while, as low as 0.49 or 0.48 I think. It then recovered to 0.60 or slightly higher by late 2009 and continued to rise to over 0.80 and in the last year has slipped to where it is now. If you bought 100,000 Euro at 0.8 it cost A$125,000 If you do that today the same number of Euro will cost you A$155,000 and change, a 24% increase. Hardly all that minor. The exchange rate is back to where it was in February 2010. The peak was August 2012 at a rate of 0.85 and a bit. A 31% decline since then. See here: http://www.oanda.com/currency/historical-rates/ you can set up the Euro-AUD rate and look back 5 years. The trajectory right now isn't looking good. If you are planning on buying a glider it would be a good idea to buy the Euro now or get forward cover. Mike At 10:22 AM 3/09/2013, you wrote: Hi Mike Why don't you look at the bright side? The exchange rate is still so much better than it was only three or so years ago!!! Even allowing for the recent slight decline of our currency against the Euro new gliders are now significantly cheaper for Australian customers. In fact they are about 30% cheaper (or should I say less costly) than a few years back. There is hardly any need to paint everything in a negative light. Kind regards Bernard _ From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [ mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2013 9:15 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Hello 0.645 Euro is all it buys right now ( Westpac this morning) Not so strong after all as it has been over 0.80 not so long ago. Mike At 09:37 AM 3/09/2013, you wrote: Good morning all Please celebrate a milestone with us! Last night we received the thirtieth order for an ASG 29. May the Australian Dollar remain as strong as this for a long time to come! Kind regards from Adelaide Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/ tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/ tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gerhard Waibel visit to Australia
On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: From the RV-6 ? Yep. :) Boxing day last year. - mark ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Nice work, engine failure in Jabiru, well handled off field landing
Gliding related because a Jabiru became a glider in QLD. Calm instructor See: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-03/pilot-makes-emergency-landing-in-l ight-aircraft/4931182 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
