Re: [Aus-soaring] ending 2013
All the best to you to Emilis, hope to see you at Bordertown, ( next year ) I hope all S.A.G.A. members have a safe and fun festive season, and a brilliant soaring season. cheers JR ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Hinkler glider trivia
So am I to understand, that the rib blew up killing all 7 on board, not the o ring as previously thought. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Just for JR
thanks Chris its nice to know that the horse still has a place in flying.___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Aerodynamics Query
I was going to say that it indicates that before we only thought it but now we have proof that the cirrus really does suck. ... but I'm not going to say that. cheers JR ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Low cost avionics
there is a big colour moving map just outside the cockpit.. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Argentinian Championships
Dear me, have you stopped taking your medication, and who is responsible for letting you near the computer ?. All good gliding people know there is no gliders before the discus, asg29, asw 20, so obviously the photo must have been photo shopped. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Argentinian Championships
Please can you only use this site for gliding related matters thank-you. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Merry Christmas
And the same back to you and Christel, regards JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] SAGA State Comps
how many John Ashfords are there, and will the real one put up their hand please. regards JR ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Telephone number
no thats not it ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] FW: Advice on GPS
I assume that you are talking about a 12 extra large, personally I think you are prone to exaggerating, but to each his own. Cost effective depends on where you go, but a night out with your mates, that you haven't seen for ages is always a good backup plan. cheers JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Funding - Federal Volunteers Grant
Thanks Grant, been exremely wet down here, havent flown yet. cheers JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Funding - Federal Volunteers Grant
Is that an ailment, I thought it meant you were in europe well I guess you learn something new everyday. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] blanik flying at bundy
Well sunday I flew Bundaberg gliding clubs blanik, with the new upgraded version of the Llewellyn mod, this aircraft not only looks new, it flys like a new one aswell. 10 out of 10 for the work done, it was a pleasure to fly. Thanks to the guys from Bundy for your hospitallity, and we will try and get back for a not so rushed trip.The queensland sky was something else last weekend. cheers JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] blanik flying at bundy
Yep we got home okay, but there is a couple of bits that need rebuilding/ better designing. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Does this work?
No for me on both links cheers JR ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] winglets
They aren't new, we've had them on the Kooka for years. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Pilot on Castor Oil
But apparently drinking copious quantities of brandy helped in the relief of the symptoms. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Pilot on Castor Oil
I think it causes debilly debel trouble___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk
It would appear that you are lost for words Rob. Cheers JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Kookaburra VH-GLG
I think GLG is the darwin kooka, but might be wrong, if it is , it is a very big task to get it back in the air. regards JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] WOI 6 May 2012
There is a map on the facebook site. cheers JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Kookaburra VH-GLG
Chris, I think it was ex millicents, which would have been GHS. cheers JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] UK glider pilot parachutes
Adjusting vario cheers JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Media Promotion
There is at least 2 that I know of.___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Media Promotion
maybe, but I know 2___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Old Technology - Final Glide Calculators
What do you mean old technologyPatch , you sold me this stuff only last week and said it was the latest thing a bewlilered JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Old Technology - Final Glide Calculators
Whats a tap ( other than a light knock on the door) and what is this electrickery you speak of. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Old Technology - Final Glide Calculators
Its the medication, you know like yoga, you sit quietly and medicate___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] AEF fee
Macca, we of the south australian division of gliding, tried to get something done about that, but it fell on deaf ears. And another thing, why dont GFA become glider insurers, with reducing premiums for those that dont make claims, and increasing those that do, surely they must know where the greatest risk is, and could charge accordingly. just thinking again sorry regards JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding - Past and Future
Yeah I was kinda thinking no so much profit,more of a user pays type of scheme,where those that bend them pay the huge premiums, and those that dont, can still afford coverage, I read somewhere a transcript of a speech Mr. Iggulden made at Lake Keepit, a lot of years ago, and that was some very powerful stuff, it was all about where we came from, ( in the GFA sense), and where we were going,I think that we have strayed a little from that path, I'm sure there are signs directing us back, we just need to see them. ( another wet cold windy day in paradise) cheers JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] our magazine
Is'nt the new look magazine unreal,but I must say I was a little disturbed by the Presidents article on our ageing glider fleet. For starters my club had a plan to fly our blanik for at least its 3750 hours, which would have put somewhere near 60,000 dollars in our bank account, but thats not to be, and it would seem that, having had that taken away from us, we are now going to be paying more to GFA for AEF's aswell, where will it all stop. And as for nice new plastic gliders, I have seen some fairly shabby looking examples of them aswell, and the maintenance for me doesnt change from plastic, wood or metal, I do the same job on them all . It does'nt matter what its made from or how old it is, an inspection is an inspection. And on the subject of ageing aircraft, I noticed in CASA's booklet on ageing aircraft, GFA didnt get a mention, and we are probably leading the field in old aircraft and how to maintain them, something I think we should be proud of So I guess what will happen is all the little clubs will disappear, and all the big clubs will be left to cover the ever increasing costs of GFA and all the people who know how to maintain sailplanes will disappear aswell.I assume flarms will become extinct as there wont be that many gliders left flying.So I guess this means the end of the horse drawn zeppelin... regards JR PS sorry the humour content is low, but.. it happens ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] our magazine
Well said Macca, where we are, flying has been hampered by weather, and my students dont say I wish we had something new to fly they say I wish we could fly, and at the moment the 2 seater in our club is a kookaburra, and when they can fly they are damn happy to be in the air, and thats what is important to them, and I must say thats how I feel aswell, I get as much pleasure out of flying the Oly as I do flying a discus, or asw20. its about flying. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] our magazine
Well they are a rather difficult and quirksome thing to fly, I dont know why I mentioned it really, perhaps I should have said libelle, or the mini nimbus, everyone can click with them can't they, oh and I was just thinking, ( I know I shouldn't) but if the general public dont want to fly in our old gliders, perhaps GFA can waver the 30 dollar fee... just thinking or did I say that out loud. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Alice Springs
talk to Tom Bird, Kev Roberts or Bert Perssons___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Alice Springs
Gary, and others, I have replied to Adam, I hope it helps. I with a few others flew in the masters games every 2 years from 1998- 2006, which was in october, and we had mixed success with the weather, but the scenery and the people there was hard not to enjoy, and we had some very good flights aswell. as for contact details, switches on ..magnetos on ... fuel on CONTACT I think we have invented the method of starting the aeroplane.___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Handicaps
Michael, may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits, plastic with wood ? I dont think so..surely you can compete in club class with the old asg29's and ventus types cant you ? have a nice day regards JR ( no offence was intended during the writing of this email)___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Sydney Morn Herald article
Probably one of them old club class gliders___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] FW: Gliding Australia!
D , you can still drive a morris minor. we have 6 young people in our club from 15 to 18, and at present they are learning to fly in a 1964 kookaburra, ( which is in exceptional condition ) and do you know the only thing that bothers these people is not that the glider isnt plastic, it is because the weather is crap and we cant fly... go figure :) and as for maintenance, I worked in the industry for quite a few years, and I have seen a lot of plastic that took me more than a couple of weeks to get back into the correct condition to fly, its all about how things get looked after, blaniks take a little more, but they are brilliant at teaching people to fly, and do maintenance. JR ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] FW: Gliding Australia!
Well done Grant, I have always thought it was all about the fun of flying, meeting people, ( and Ive met some great people too) . Our club is also nearing 50 years old, and we too were relying on a Blanik to take AEF's and teach people. cheers JR South Australian renegade___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] FW: Gliding Australia!
A great defeatest attitude D, to think that if our predecessors had that sort of attitude none of us would be flying, long live the revolution, keep feeding the horse that draws the zeppelin... JR ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding Australia
I got mine Ulrich, and I did notice the pigeon heading your way, but with the head winds and everything it could still be a day or two. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Yorkshiremen hitting boundaries
does this make them hedge hogs ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding Australia!
I wasn't having a go about the magazine being compulsory, just pointing out that it is, and I prefer the hard copy, not that I've seen the new one yet JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding Australia!
The magazine is not free to us, you pay for it in your membership ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Stalls
So when they are talking about recovering from stalls, they dont mean the cheap seats, its something those big things with the whatcha callits out the sides do. JR ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Volcanoes - Climate Change
Does the government see this list ?___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Going off the air until mid July
Are the Icelanders paying a carbon tax ? JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Flying Plank
I thought others must have had one with all this planking in the news lately. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Flying Plank
Was there one at Benalla on a hangar wall back in the 80's ? JR ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Flying Plank
So that wasnt the Plank that Fred H test flew. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider earning it's keep.
Always jumping to conclusions, he was just a heavy smoker thats all___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] rigging controls checks (Foka etc)
I dont know if you are aware of it Anthony, but blaniks have been bashed to death, (may they rest in pieces), surely its time to ground all foka's and aircraft with similar rigging systems, as there have been a couple of nasty accidents with these types now. And I dont sign anything, I use someone elses signature. regards someone else.___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Soaring Australia magazine
Thanks Anne for the great job you have done regards JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
And the green green grass of home___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
Sorry I meant maraca's ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
Nice choice John, one of these days is nice to fly aerobatics to. regards JR ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Music while flying?
Geez Simon do you still have that old Akai.___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Good morning
Well all I can say is that it is not only the sink that sucks... :) happy flying JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Good morning
Decidedly Average Morning, ( D.A.M ) looks like we've done it again. it's refreshing to see you are consistent. have a nice day :) JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Good morning
Sounds boring Patch, no flying here on the weekend, too much water and breeze, did have some entertainment from some Melbournese aviators, who locked the keys to their cirrus in the baggage compartment. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Australian Grand Prix - Lake Keepit
bring back the turnpoint camera. and the horse drawn zepplin ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Keith Willis
I use the phone, or email ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] 50th MultiClass Nationals at Narromine
Olympias, when only the best will do.___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Latest GFA President's Update report
I would like to wish John Viney all the very best for his future endeavours, hope to see you around ,and thanks for the help you have given me over the years. regards JR - Original Message - From_ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Bass Straight Roll Cloud (with lightning?)
The roll cloud in this instance is frontal associated with a cunim, different to your friendly roll cloud. JR - Original Message - From: Kevin Rodda brisgl...@gmail.com To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:44 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Bass Straight Roll Cloud (with lightning?) Have experienced first hand Morning Glory roll clouds at Burketown in Sep'95 ... http://www.glidingcaboolture.org.au/95MG%20slide%20show%2001.htm and also a roll cloud at Caboolture in Aug'09 where the characteristics of the airmass as it passed over the airfield was identical to that of a Carpentaria wave in transit (on the ground as it passed over, it felt like someone had turned off the lights and opened the fridge door) ... http://www.glidingcaboolture.org.au/Morning%20Glory%20at%20YCAB%2008Aug09.htm have also viewed many photos and read many stories on the web but have not (before the Bass Straight pic) seen lightning with a Morning Glory type roll cloud. Kevin Rodda ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation
so where can we buy the room to put them in, or do you leave something else out of the panel, airspeed, altimeter, perhaps a vario. JR - Original Message - From: Simon Hackett To: Mal Bruce ; AUS Soaring Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ADSB in gliders and sport aviation Hello Mal (et al), That device already exists. Its called a PowerFLARM: http://www.butterfly.aero/powerflarm/fly/ and/or http://www.lxavionics.co.uk/traffic-monitor.htm This looks like its just about to go into full production. Note that its quoted as being able to run for 8 hours on six AA batteries (or from a glider battery, obviously, as an alternative). i.e. presumably the current draw isn't unreasonable. That doesn't magically solve the economic question, but it does suggest that the actual technology you require here (along with a Mode-S transponder, I guess) is certainly available (or nearly so). I must say that I find the notion of a combination Flarm and ADS-B to be highly appealing as a safety tool. Its eye-opening (literally) to see the thing the ADS-B in my Cirrus picks up before I see them out of the window. Regards, Simon On 26/11/2010, at 6:00 PM, Mal Bruce wrote: Could flarm and ADSB run on a single unit I recall having discussion with Nigel about this how about your expert opinion? Personally I 100% support technology being used for collision avoidance the cost of the units and current battery technology is minimal and the shared cost per aircraft far out weighs the cost of one life. I am sure that negotiated properly some costs could be shared by GFA and the federal government CASA after all they want “safe sky’s for all”! Mal CASA Discussion Paper Response - Urgent Action Required To: GFA Members, Gliding Clubs and Regional Gliding Associations Urgent Action Required See the response by ASAC to CASA relating to Discussion Paper 1006AS In a nutshell, it proposes to mandate universal fitting of ADSB and Mode S to all aircraft for use in all classifications of airspace. This is completely unacceptable to sport aviation generally and gliding particularly. The GFA will be submitting a response which will express similar views to those of ASAC. It is important that as many responses as possible are submitted expressing concerns about the proposal and at the very least expressing strong support for the ASAC submission. Submissions can be made easily by individuals and club representatives via CASA website Response to Regulatory Change Proposal. Detailed individual responses would be preferred but a response which just expresses dissatisfaction with CASA's consultation and then notes for each item that changes would make it acceptable, with a final comment supporting the ASAC paper will at least get the message across. It would greatly assist our position if each organisation can ensure a response on their behalf before 30 November and encourage all individual members to do the same. Apologies for the short notice. Phil McCann President ATT1..txt -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Questions on painting PU on top of Gelcoat
Carl, it would depend on what the gelcoat was, the best way is to remove all the gelcoat and start from there. regards JR - Original Message - From: Carl Ricard To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 6:23 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Questions on painting PU on top of Gelcoat Hello Guys, Ive come to notice that Im relying more and more on you guys.. We are having a complete makeover on our Puchacz and I have some questions. This mornig i went to the club hangar and put a halt on the paint job, the painter had just finnished sanding and was about to start preping the PU. I saw here once someone saying that you cant spray PU over gelcoat or it will crack like a dry lake bed after some time. Can any one give any advice as to how Im supposed to paint over gelcoat? Should I spray a layer of grey primer between the factory gelcoat and the PU? Were on hold til you guys give some advice. Many thanks Carl -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Wave
over the top of Millicent also - Original Message - From: John C To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Wave Also along the Otway Ranges. John. - Original Message - From: Christopher Mc Donnell To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:22 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Wave Nice set to the east of the Adelide hills right now. Chris ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] address for GFA magazine
Anne Elliot E-mail Address(es): anne.ellio...@bigpond.com - Original Message - From: Dave Donald To: aus-soaring Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 12:45 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] address for GFA magazine Can someone please supply me with the email address of the contact person for contributions to the GFA mag? Regards, Dave -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] 14 AS-W20s in one place!
I dont think the hours on an airframe mean diddly, its how its been treated while its in the air, and for that matter on the ground,the only useful purpose of time is to perform scheduled maintenance, and life on components.If you fly something outside the manufacturers design envelope, then there is a high possibility that something will break. It would seem that some countries fly the Blanik like it is a Fox, as good a trainer the Blanik is, it is not a Fox. regards JR - Original Message - From: Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 14 AS-W20s in one place! At 03:46 PM 8/09/2010, you wrote: Of course all sailplanes not used commercially should have the option of Experimental Sure they should but maybe we could change the name to something which doesn't sound like doing tests on small furry animals. I can't see my other half of certificated nervous disposition getting into a plane with Experimental plastered all over it, but dress it up in some aviation acronym nonsense like INCERFA and I'm your man. Over here DIY aviation is in theory not so bad because we can indulge in a big paddock policy where the chances of some part of your glider falling off and smiting a farmer (or worse one of our heroic miners) in a field are very small.\ D I did say OPTION. If you or yours feel safer in a certified aircraft, by all means feel free to fly only in them. Al is right. The purpose of the sign is to let people know what they are getting in to. My Experimental homebuilt also has the required Persons flying in this aircraft do so at their own risk. CASA does not set safety standards for Experimental aircraft placard where passengers and other crew can see it. My other half just straps on her parachute, straps in, rehearses her emergency egress drill and says let's go flying. The Blanik in Austria that lost a wing recently had only 2300 hours and was presumably maintained to certified standards though. When someone on the ground is injured by an aircraft it is far more likely to be from a certified airliner crashing into a city or suburbs as has happened many times in the past. The accident in Hungary was really quite an unusual occurrence. I won't comment further on that now. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] 14 AS-W20s in one place!
and thats what I meant, so the aeroplane had 2000 hours, was that just doing circuits, or hardcore aerobatics. have a nice day JR - Original Message - From: Mark Fisher To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 14 AS-W20s in one place! I am biased as this is a new product for us but if something like this www.dittolog.com was available in the past, we'd know everything about how an aircraft was operatedone or two pilots, winch, aerotow, self launch, heavy landings , aerobaticsthe lot. Cheers Mark On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:41 PM, JR jma99...@bigpond.net.au wrote: I dont think the hours on an airframe mean diddly, its how its been treated while its in the air, and for that matter on the ground,the only useful purpose of time is to perform scheduled maintenance, and life on components.If you fly something outside the manufacturers design envelope, then there is a high possibility that something will break. It would seem that some countries fly the Blanik like it is a Fox, as good a trainer the Blanik is, it is not a Fox. regards JR - Original Message - From: Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 14 AS-W20s in one place! At 03:46 PM 8/09/2010, you wrote: Of course all sailplanes not used commercially should have the option of Experimental Sure they should but maybe we could change the name to something which doesn't sound like doing tests on small furry animals. I can't see my other half of certificated nervous disposition getting into a plane with Experimental plastered all over it, but dress it up in some aviation acronym nonsense like INCERFA and I'm your man. Over here DIY aviation is in theory not so bad because we can indulge in a big paddock policy where the chances of some part of your glider falling off and smiting a farmer (or worse one of our heroic miners) in a field are very small.\ D I did say OPTION. If you or yours feel safer in a certified aircraft, by all means feel free to fly only in them. Al is right. The purpose of the sign is to let people know what they are getting in to. My Experimental homebuilt also has the required Persons flying in this aircraft do so at their own risk. CASA does not set safety standards for Experimental aircraft placard where passengers and other crew can see it. My other half just straps on her parachute, straps in, rehearses her emergency egress drill and says let's go flying. The Blanik in Austria that lost a wing recently had only 2300 hours and was presumably maintained to certified standards though. When someone on the ground is injured by an aircraft it is far more likely to be from a certified airliner crashing into a city or suburbs as has happened many times in the past. The accident in Hungary was really quite an unusual occurrence. I won't comment further on that now. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Mark Fisher Managing Director Swift Performance Equipment PO Box 726, Lismore, NSW Australia Ph: +61 2 66221666 Fax: +61 2 66221633 www.spe.com.au -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Close shave
A fair bit of the sky is being blocked out with the attachments on the canopy aswell. regards to all JR - Original Message - From: Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 5:11 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Close shave Hi all! This video was just sent to me by a friend in Germany. Obviously the lookout of both pilots was far from perfect but I guess the ASK 21 driver will claim that he was otherwise occupied. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMk6ehMzIdIfeature=youtube_gdata_player Keep it safe everyone! Kind regards Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Training Glider Types
I think you should re-think looping a twin astir, way back there was an AD revoking its aerobatic capabilities.I dont think it was ever reinstated. cheers JR - Original Message - From: Texler, Michael michael.tex...@health.wa.gov.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:11 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Training Glider Types My 2.2c I spend a lot of my current flying time instructing from the back seat of: ASK-21, Puchacz, Twin Astir I and II, DG-1000s. Have spent many hours in the back seats of: Bocian 1E, Bergfalke IV, KRO-3 Puchatek, Janus, and some time in IS-28 and L-13 Blaniks ! ...;-) Agreed, the higher performance types are nice to fly (dare I say, look nice) when you know what you are doing and have had some experience under you belt. But they are much less forgiving of bad handling, it is very easy to get into high energy situations that would overload most low hour/early solo pilots. Then there are more controls such as flaps and undercarriage to worry about. The lower performance trainers tend to be much more forgiving of mishandling. I don't think putting ab-initio into a high performance a/c is the best idea. You want to send them solo in a type that is easy to handle. It makes sense to send a pilot solo in a glider type that they have trained in. Then you graduate the pilot up through higher performance types. I certainly agree with low hour pilots going along on cross country flights as P2 with an experienced pilot in higher performance a/c. This seems to be a way to get people interested (most low hour pilots who have done this have enjoyed the experience). As Catherine said, GA is still using Cessna 152, 172 for basic training, although Diamond air is muscling in on the market. You don't see ab initio GA pilots training in high performance a/c. P.S. My very brief summary of trainers (from handling point of view)... ASK21: Good trainer, docile handling, can be aerobatted (can do rolls too), spinning needs spin kit. Good visibility. Puchacz: Good trainer, not as docile in handling, spins like a top! can be aerobatted for inverted flight Twin Astir: Good trainer, docile, can loop, spinning requires nose whiskers. Visibility from back seat not so good. DG-1000s: Requires more skill to fly (can build up speed easily), more involved weight and balance system required for safe flight, can spin and loop in 20m mode, more advanced aeros in 18m mode. Good visibility. Bocian 1E: Docile Handling, Loops, Spins like a top. Good visibility. Bergfalke: Requires more precise flying technique, likes good landings, doesn't spin that well. Good visibility. Puchatek: Docile, Spins well, Loops, Great visibility. Janus: Requires more skill (slippery, has flaps, U/C, all flying tail), good visibility. IS-28: Handles well. Needs to be provoked to spin. Good visibility. L-13 Blanik: Requires more skill if you are going to use the flaps. Handles well otherwise. Visibility not so good out of the back seat. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Training Glider Types
no confusion I also am guilty of aerobatting twin astirs when they were allowed to do them. JR - Original Message - From: Texler, Michael michael.tex...@health.wa.gov.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Training Glider Types I guess you are referring to: 2003 Service Bulletin 315-64/2. (As GFA AD 590) Furthermore: Didn't Grob do static test and restored the original flight speed limitations and maneuver operations for the Twin II and allowed the Twin II Acro only basic aerobatic maneuvers (spins, lazy eights, chandelles, stall turns, steep turns, and positive loops)? Refer to AD 606 http://2009.gfa.org.au/Docs/ADs/GFA%20AD%20606%20Issue%201.pdf The Astir II was loopable, before the AD. I don't loop the Astir I, because it is placarded no aerobatics! I suspect more a/c will have their aerobatic ratings removed as the fleet ages. Sorry for any confusion. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Vintage Rally
G'Day Wombat, The next vintage rally is at Bordertown from the 1st. to the 9th. of January 2011. regards JR - Original Message - From: Mike Cleaver wom...@netspeed.com.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:07 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Vintage Rally I'm currently in the UK at the International Vintage Glider Rally at Tibenham, Norfolk. Can someone (Patch, JR?) let me know the dates of the Australian Vintage Rally for 2011 so I can pass the message around, please. Lots of Dutch and Germans, and lots of very interesting and historic gliders - including Hols der Teufel. Today is cool and windy NW'ly with winch launch only as the runway cannot support parallel winch and A/T ops. Most people seem to be staying up in good thermals in spite of the 15 kt drift, with very few quick return circuits, though winch heights are not great. Wombat ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Fw: DG Flugzeugbau - Newsletter No. 142
Patch, I have a blanik you can use until you get the DG fixed. regards JR - Original Message - From: Patching patch...@westnet.com.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fw: DG Flugzeugbau - Newsletter No. 142 Hi Tom, Thanks for the newsletter, there is some interesting reading. On a technical issue, Our DG-505 (VMF) is suffering from worn busches on the inboard arm of the airbrakes. There is considerable movement fore and aft. Have you ever done any of these fixes before and if not, have you any concepts of how we can acheive a fix. I would imagine that we will be required to cut a hole in the lower surface and then extract the bolt and worn busch replace and then repair. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks again Ian Patching. VMFG - Original Message - From: T J Gilbert tnjgilb...@internode.on.net To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:04 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Fw: DG Flugzeugbau - Newsletter No. 142 - Original Message - From: Friedel Weber we...@dg-flugzeugbau.de To: Tom Jane Gilbert tnjgilb...@internode.on.net Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:39 PM Subject: DG Flugzeugbau - Newsletter No. 142 DG Flugzeugbau - Newsletter No. 142 August 2010 Index: 1. TN-DG-SS-01 - Maintenance Manuals for all DG Aircraft are approved now. From Aug. 31st on the new maintenance manuals for DG-100 up to DG-800 as well as for LS3 are mandatory for all owners of these aircraft. 2. Noise Level Measurement for the DG-1001M and The Test Flights of the DG-1001M has been finished. 3. TN 1000-17 / TN 500-02: Helpful features for small people 4. LS8-tc Demonstrator for sale 5. A wonderful movie made by Marko Rocznik 6. Summer Holidays: The Company is closed until Aug. 22nd. Ordering spare parts is possible. 7. Photo of the Month: Impressive Background Please click here: http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/newsletter-142.html I am sending you our best wishes for a beautiful and safe flight season. Friedel Weber and the complete DG- and LS-Team Soaring - Touch the Sky! --- The newsletter will be sent to all our customers with e-mail addresses as well as to all pilots who would like to get it. If you are not yet on our mailing list and want to read our newsletter, please feel free to write a short message to us with the key-word: Newsletters, please in the subject-line. If you do not want to receive our newsletter anymore, please send a short message with the keyword: No Newsletters to we...@dg-flugzeugbau.de Please also tell us, if your e-mail address has changed. The German Version is under: http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/newsletter-d.html The previous Newsletters can be seen at: http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/newsletter-e.html If you want to receive the Newsletter in German, please send us an e-mail with the key word: Newsletter please!. -- Are you engaged with Composite Products? Please have a look at: http://www.dg-kunststofftechnik.de - Innovative Solutions made of Composites! -- This newsletter has helped us to grow to a real DG/LS-Family! Always happy landings Friedel Weber - Geschaeftsfuehrer/Managing Dir - we...@dg-flugzeugbau.de DG Flugzeugbau GmbH, Bruchsal Manufacturer of High-Performance Sailplanes AG Mannheim HRB 231792 http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Fw: DG Flugzeugbau - Newsletter No. 142
yep I will get there saturday night JR - Original Message - From: Patching patch...@westnet.com.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fw: DG Flugzeugbau - Newsletter No. 142 I already have one of those. AND I'm not saying anything OK. Are you on for this weekend? I am planning to leave thursday afternoon and will spend the weekend there. last weekend before lid is shut again. Cheers Patch - Original Message - From: JR jma99...@bigpond.net.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fw: DG Flugzeugbau - Newsletter No. 142 Patch, I have a blanik you can use until you get the DG fixed. regards JR - Original Message - From: Patching patch...@westnet.com.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fw: DG Flugzeugbau - Newsletter No. 142 Hi Tom, Thanks for the newsletter, there is some interesting reading. On a technical issue, Our DG-505 (VMF) is suffering from worn busches on the inboard arm of the airbrakes. There is considerable movement fore and aft. Have you ever done any of these fixes before and if not, have you any concepts of how we can acheive a fix. I would imagine that we will be required to cut a hole in the lower surface and then extract the bolt and worn busch replace and then repair. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks again Ian Patching. VMFG - Original Message - From: T J Gilbert tnjgilb...@internode.on.net To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:04 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Fw: DG Flugzeugbau - Newsletter No. 142 - Original Message - From: Friedel Weber we...@dg-flugzeugbau.de To: Tom Jane Gilbert tnjgilb...@internode.on.net Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:39 PM Subject: DG Flugzeugbau - Newsletter No. 142 DG Flugzeugbau - Newsletter No. 142 August 2010 Index: 1. TN-DG-SS-01 - Maintenance Manuals for all DG Aircraft are approved now. From Aug. 31st on the new maintenance manuals for DG-100 up to DG-800 as well as for LS3 are mandatory for all owners of these aircraft. 2. Noise Level Measurement for the DG-1001M and The Test Flights of the DG-1001M has been finished. 3. TN 1000-17 / TN 500-02: Helpful features for small people 4. LS8-tc Demonstrator for sale 5. A wonderful movie made by Marko Rocznik 6. Summer Holidays: The Company is closed until Aug. 22nd. Ordering spare parts is possible. 7. Photo of the Month: Impressive Background Please click here: http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/newsletter-142.html I am sending you our best wishes for a beautiful and safe flight season. Friedel Weber and the complete DG- and LS-Team Soaring - Touch the Sky! --- The newsletter will be sent to all our customers with e-mail addresses as well as to all pilots who would like to get it. If you are not yet on our mailing list and want to read our newsletter, please feel free to write a short message to us with the key-word: Newsletters, please in the subject-line. If you do not want to receive our newsletter anymore, please send a short message with the keyword: No Newsletters to we...@dg-flugzeugbau.de Please also tell us, if your e-mail address has changed. The German Version is under: http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/newsletter-d.html The previous Newsletters can be seen at: http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/newsletter-e.html If you want to receive the Newsletter in German, please send us an e-mail with the key word: Newsletter please!. -- Are you engaged with Composite Products? Please have a look at: http://www.dg-kunststofftechnik.de - Innovative Solutions made of Composites! -- This newsletter has helped us to grow to a real DG/LS-Family! Always happy landings Friedel Weber - Geschaeftsfuehrer/Managing Dir - we...@dg-flugzeugbau.de DG Flugzeugbau GmbH, Bruchsal Manufacturer of High-Performance Sailplanes AG Mannheim HRB 231792 http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Re: [Aus-soaring] 1980 Komet Trailer
Hi Grant, I reckon there is a place in adelaide that recharges gas struts,cant remember where though. regards JR - Original Message - From: Grant Hudson To: AusSoaring Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:57 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] 1980 Komet Trailer Hi all, anyone have the technical specifications for the gas struts used on a 1980 Komet glass top clamshell trailer? Ones failed on our LS4 trailer and the labels can't be read. Regards, Grant. -- Grant Hudson -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS Logger question
Hi Brian, go for the flywithce, from Al at go soaring, fantastic piece of equipment, about the size of a match box, and will do everything you want. regards JR - Original Message - From: Brian Smith To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:48 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] GPS Logger question Hi all, I know this type of question has been asked a lot, but I've searched the threads and I'm not clear. I'm a student pilot and want to get a simple GPS logger to display my flights on Google Earth for my own enjoyment (ie no plans to make badge claims and the like yet). I want to be able to carry it in my pocket and download the file later to my PC to display as a kml or igc file. I've seen two mentioned - a Wintec G-Trender which has a screen and a Holux M1200E which is more compact, no screen and is Bluetooth (though a USB data cable is available). Has anyone had any experience with these units and know whether they can do what I want, or can recommend a cheap compact device to do what I want it to do please? Cheers smith -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] [JG] Another gliding movie
Yes congratulations Michael, well done regards JR ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] RED BULL and Gliding
I've always said that the blanik was a far more superior sailplane than people give it credit for, much like the horse drawn zepplin JR - Original Message - From: Mitchell Preston pres...@webone.com.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RED BULL and Gliding *guffaw* Perhaps, but at least they're nucking futs in Blaniks. On 12/04/2010, at 5:10 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: Thses guys are nucking futs. Mike At 04:13 PM 12/04/2010, you wrote: almost makes blaniks look cool.. :-) On 12/04/2010, at 2:00 PM, Adam Woolley wrote: Never thought I'd see the day! Keeping the dream alive.. http://www.redbull.com/cs/Satellite/en_INT/Video/Two-become- one-02124283057?p=1242745960027RED BULL Gliding WPP ___ Aus-soaring mailing list mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netAus- soar...@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Bacchus Marsh storm
Great photo - Original Message - From: John Parncutt To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 11:48 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Bacchus Marsh storm Some of you may have heard that Melbourne had a huge 1 in 10 year storm last Saturday, it came in from the West and arrived at Bacchus Marsh first, fortunately we closed operations in time and got everything away. Here's a photo taken just before it hit. Cheers, John Parncutt -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] why people go gliding
geez Emilis, I hope I'm not one of your targets :) - Original Message - From: emilis prelgauskas emi...@emilis.sa.on.net To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 9:56 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] why people go gliding This side topic was raised after Simon had his mumble on BLIPMAPs and related stuff. Accepting that for many/most; the hobby of gliding is just that; a distinct segment in life with other quite separate segments like family, work, other associations. And for some/ a few; gliding is an integral part of who they are, what their life is about, and there are welded linkages to family, work and other associations. So being interested in electric motors - get a mix of electric vehicles (car, boat, plane)(each 100 of these = 1MW) together, hook them to buildings (notionally for recharge so that you don't frighten the beauracrats), hook the buildings to on-site renewables and mains; and presto - a base load contributor to the mains transmission system and reliance on traditional (coal, nuclear) power generation declines. Wind farms, hot rocks, solar chimney power stations suffice. All because of Antares, Tesla, (battery powered Stemme?) etc. If you are a hobby sailplaner, none of this will connect in your head. If you are connected to emergent thinking (V2G, etc.) it will. No, we don't now need a thread that there aren't 100 electric cars,boats,planes out there. 30 years ago I didn't have my own airfield, sailplanes, museum etc. But at that time, it was a target worth having a shot at. And now the targets have moved on. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] New mobile number
No it fell out of his pocket, when he was high up amongst all those white fluffy things. JR - Original Message - From: Ian Mc Phee To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] New mobile number Guess you dropped it in bucket of water while washing a glider!! IM On 1 March 2010 19:38, Patching patch...@westnet.com.au wrote: As of tuesday 2/3/10 my mobile number is changing to 0425406530. No, don't ask. Patch. -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Long day
well done, isn't this what living is all about !!! regards JR - Original Message - From: Kevin McGowan To: aussoaring 'aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net' Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:49 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Long day Last Saturday the young turks at Geelong Gliding Club based at Bacchus Marsh organised a dawn to dusk flying day. Dawn was at 6.00 AM and the first launch was at 6.10. BBQ breakfast and lunch were provided at nominal cost along with festive treats like turkey rolls and mince pies. Both winch and aero tows were available and all enjoyed the day. Some members of the other Bacchus clubs, VMFG and Beaufort, also took the opportunity to have some winch launches. Apart from the flying it turned into a social occasion. As the sun was slowly sinking into the west at about 20.40 the last launch was done and when complete and the aircraft were safely put away all retired to the clubhouse to celebrate what was a great days flying. No records set but there were almost 70 launches done of which about 40 were by winch, and as things turned out our youngest member, Ailsa, had both the first and last launch of the day. K. McG. -- Find out how Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Is this for real....?
My car is fitted with an ignition, ( barrell and key) and if you turn the key OFF the engine stops and so does the car. maybe it is only in holdens I dont know ... merry christmas all JR - Original Message - From: Kevin Roden To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Is this for real? The ford dealership that serviced my falcon managed to fit a new bonnet release cable in front of the accelerator pedal. My merge into traffic from their service department almost ended badly. The cable very effectively held the pedal in the most depressed position. Very unsettling when you take your foot of the accelerator but the power is still there. Kevin Roden 2009/12/16 Texler, Michael michael.tex...@health.wa.gov.au I know that after their glider, many pilots are in love with their car. I am sure there is much experience out on the list. This story is doing the rounds, about the 22y.o with a runaway cruise control. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/16/2773292.htm Lots of comments already posted. Other hype here: http://spectrum.ieee.org/blog/computing/it/riskfactor/how-hard-should-it -be-to-stop-a-runaway-car Was this guy a dill or is there something more to it? Sorry if it is slightly off topic, But I know that many of us spend many an hour in cars going to and from the gliding field (especially ones with cruise control). Michael ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Hornet Mosquito
My dealings with glasflugel ( brilliant sailplanes) trim neutral, and on the wire they pretty much look after themselves. regards JR - Original Message - From: Terry Neumann tfneum...@internode.on.net To: Mal Bruce m...@mals.net; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Hornet Mosquito Mal Bruce wrote: schnipp What happened early in the climb the trim popped out from the teeth of the trim ratchet and the load was removed from the stick and I was near vertical the winch driver gave the winch full power and saved my life other than that like death at Gulgong a few years ago and the more resent accident I believe that they were in the same predicament as me in my case the winch driver saved my life. I have stated this each time a pilot has died in a Glasflugel aircraft launching that has been killed in fact when I have been described the incident over the phone I have said the pilot was flying a Hornet or Mosquito and they have stated yes that's correct. Mal It's an interesting observation Mal, and one that has worrying overtones. It's been a long time since I flew a Club Libelle, but I've a feeling that they also had the parallelogram control column setup with a similar trim mechanism. If that's the case, I can think of at least one other accident which happened in similar circumstances and which defied reasonable explanation - at least at the limited level of information which filtered back to the ordinary GFA members. Does anyone know if there was ever a A/D (or an ops advice of some sort) on these aircraft to address the issue you've described above? Terry ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] alice springs masters dates
You would need to get someone from the Alice to respond, but it is not listed on the sports list. regards JR - Original Message - From: opsw...@bigpond.net.au To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:12 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] alice springs masters dates anyone know if gliding is in the Alice Springs masters this year? If it is what's the dates. Peter Heath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] 5th Dec.
well done Patch - Original Message - From: Patching To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:26 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] 5th Dec. Happy Birthday! This coming saturday, 5th December, marks the 100 th Anniversary of Human Flight in Australia. At the sand dunes around Narrabeen, George Taylor flew his glider. The glider flew approx 30 flights that day in 1909, the longest being 100 yards. It was also flown by his wife. Accordingly, the day is being marked with a celebration at North Narabeen Park (Rat Park) on the saturday, starting at 9 am.. The park is a stones throw away from the dunes where the first flights were undertaken. I will be attending with Replica #1 Taylor Glider built by the Australian Gliding Museum. Others are coming from Victoria to assist on the day but if gliding enthusiasts from around Sydney (or further) came along it would be great to see you. Although the glider would today be classed as a hang glider that doesn't really matter, it was the start of gliding and aeronautics in Australia. Less than 3 months later they put an engine in a glider and made the first tug. I hope we can meet some of you on the weekend. The trip is being fully funded by me, however if you would like to make a donation to the Australian Gliding Museum it would help defray my costs. (contact me for details) If you can't make Sydney, then perhaps people could pause for a few moments and remember just how we got to where we are and the people who made what we do today possible. Cheers Ian Patching. -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] 5th Dec.
I thought it was some irish gentleman , (whose name eludes me),that had the first flight, sorry that might have been fight. cheers JR - Original Message - From: Patching patch...@westnet.com.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 5th Dec. I don't really want to start a discussion on who was first or second, that really doesn't concern me, but I suppose I took that risk when I put the posting onto the Aus soaring that there would be people who would want to start an in depth discussion about who was first. The facts that are now generally accepted are, that the glider was built principally by George Taylor with the help of a number of people including Hallstrom. The glider flew with a number of different people on the day, approx 30 flights, including all those who helped construct it and Taylors wife. On all but the last flight helpers were holding onto tethers which helped control the glider. In all respects like a kite. On the last flight with Taylor as pilot the tethers were released and he flew the glider approx 100 yards and landed in the sea. So in all recent correspondence and historical writings, all those who helped who can be named are, including Hallstrom, but Taylor is recognised as the first person to fly an aircraft in Australia. Please, if you can help, there have already been some donations, then do so,.if you want to start an Aus-Soaring type discussion, go ahead, but really it should be a celebration of our history. Thankyou, Ian P - Original Message - From: DMcD slutsw...@gmail.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 5th Dec. HA I have to offer my congratulations on this event and building the replicas. Great stuff. But since i am studying for my masters in pedantry (something this group is good at...) I know nothing about nothing, but in Alan Ash's excellent book on the history of gliding in Australia, there's a strong claim that it was Ed Hallstrom (Sir) who built and flew this glider first, but Ed does not seem to be cracking a mention. See: http://www.keepitsoaring.com/LKSC/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=97Itemid=72 Isn't it true that the word hang auf Deutsch means slope, so all these early gliders were really called slope gliders? The faces at the Wasserkuppe are called names such as the Pelzner Hang and South West Hang. Another oddity, is that it's hard to see that you could fly any glider nowadays at Narrabeen unless you managed a turn immediately after take off. Good luck and don't get your feet wet! DMcD ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Holy smoking barographs batman... (This containshumour, although a poor attempt at it...)
We were at alice springs, in the caravan park, and smoking a foil for the barograph, when the manager came over to us and said that he didnt want us smoking that stuff here thankyou very much. regards all JR - Original Message - From: Texler, Michael michael.tex...@health.wa.gov.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:40 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Holy smoking barographs batman... (This containshumour, although a poor attempt at it...) Aw, come on. You have to admit it was sure as hell fun to burn the mothballs (naphthalene) to put the soot on the barograph foil. Then to wind the clockwork mechanism up (hoping that you didn't overwind it). The ticking sound from behind the seat was reassuring (much like a time bomb wasn't). Then to put hairspray on the holy relic to prevent the graven image from being corrupted. It sort of lent a ceremonial air to the whole process of doing a badge flight (much like holy water, incense and candles, oops, my Catholic upbringing coming through...) Try and tell that to the kids of today. They would never believe you... Back to normal transmissions... ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer manufacturers
Did you mean trailers for australian gliders (eg: Kookaburra, Arrow, Boomerang etc) or manufacturers of glider trailers, in Australia. regards JR - Original Message - From: Derek Ruddock To: 'anthony.sm...@adelaide.on.net' ; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:49 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Trailer manufacturers Does anyone have contact details for any Australian glider trailer manufacturers? -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding Men in suits (warning thispostingmaycontain humour...)
cigar smokers - Original Message - From: David and Justine Olsen To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding Men in suits (warning thispostingmaycontain humour...) yeeesh, bad image...just how do the Y fronts become tobacco stained??? On 8 Oct 2009, at 17:13, simon holding wrote: Are we still able to buy a GFA cravat to wear, cointerpoising the tobacco stained Y Fronts on awards night? -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of anthony.sm...@adelaide.on.net Sent: Thursday, 8 October 2009 5:00 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding Men in suits (warning this postingmaycontain humour...) Why not. There have been a number of examples of the opposite, with pilots flying without clothing in the altogether. On Thu 08/10/09 2:51 PM , Texler, Michael michael.tex...@health.wa.gov.au sent: We could always go retro. The Adelaide Uni Gliding Club started life as the Adelaide University Engineers Gliding Club. They flew is nice suits! http://www.augc.on.net/Image.php?image=50 I dunno, perhaps we could have, Gliding in Suits day. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] 406Mhz beacons
Mike I think you are trying to pull a War of the Worlds stunt, how could anyone possibly do these things you speak of. nice try though, you had me going for a minute, and everyone else too I'll bet. regards JR - Original Message - From: Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] 406Mhz beacons The mind boggles at how those American cowboys can be happy with beacons that don't meet AS/NZ standards and are half the price. I also must wonder why, when each beacon has a discrete code, there is any country coding at all. I've heard rumours that there are such things as databases which can run on PC's and a marvellous thing called the Internet. Allegedly you could enter the discrete code and find out who owns it anywhere in the world. Mike At 11:04 AM 21/09/2009, you wrote: Folks PLB info for your attention I also advised that our knowledge of the number of beacons being bought with the number being registered shows an approximate 25% shortfall (not being registered). This is supported by incidents/activations of late where beacons have not been registered and therefore emergency contact details or likely targets/persons involved are not known to the RCC and therefore potentially delaying a SAR response. Recently it has also come to our attention that in various aviation online forums, discussions are being held about buying overseas beacons on line because they are cheaper than buying a beacon in Australia. Additionally there have been enquiries of Australian Agents to recode beacons bought online from overseas. The agents are refusing to do this. Additionally these beacons do not meet the AS/NZ standard which is also a requirement of CAR252a. I request CASA undertake a post transition education project to encourage pilots and owners to: 1. Register their beacon. If it is an EPIRB or PLB then you can note an aircraft registration against the beacon. Beacons can be registered on line for free. 2. Educate/audit the industry to comply with CAR252a and switch to a 406 beacon. 3. Educate the industry that an overseas beacon does not conform with AS/NZ standard, is not country coded to Australia and cannot be recoded in Australia once bought. Mark Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] ES-KA6 Romeo Victor - Correction re history
ES-KA6 Romeo Victor - Correction re historyIan Patching is still a legend in his own mind though isnt he ? , and it would have been possible for him to have made that flight, so lets keep it as an airstrip myth. regards JR - Original Message - From: Kevin Rodda To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] ES-KA6 Romeo Victor - Correction re history Hi to all, Some history re Romeo Victor appeared in Vintage Gliding Australia's Vintage Times #115 and also in the Vintage Gliding Corner section of GFA's Soaring Australia magazine this month. Unfortunately it incorrectly referred to Ian Patching as being the pilot of a Mucha that flew from Benalla to Narromine on 11-Jan-65. Of course it wasn't Ian Patching it was Ian Aspland in the Mucha and the error was my fault. The article should have read . On 11-Jan-65, Max Howland took a 1200' winch-launch in Romeo Victor from Benalla VIC at 1130 and landed in Narromine NSW some 5 hours and 15 minutes later with 4000' to spare to achieve his second Diamond Distance. On that day Ian Aspland also made it to Narromine in a Mucha while Maurie Bradney landed at Dubbo. Ian Patching had pointed out my error in May'09 and it had been corrected on the Caboolture Gliding Club web site. However I had overlooked advising Dave Goldsmith who had already downloaded the information for the abovementioned articles. Ian Patching was only around 9 years of age at the time! Apologies/Regards, Kevin Rodda _ From: Kevin Rodda [mailto:brisgl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 10 August 2009 8:11 AM To: 'aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net' Subject: Morning Glory type roll cloud at Caboolture Airfield 07-Aug-09 http://www.glidingcaboolture.org.au/Morning%20Glory%20at%20YCAB%2008Aug09.htm This is not a joke or a prank . I was lucky enough to experience first-hand a few years back a couple of real Morning Glory clouds rolling across Burketown airstrip (they move from north east to south west as they come in from over the Gulf of Carpentaria) and this was remarkably similar. I guess Deception Bay is no Gulf of Carpentaria but it really did try hard this morning! Russell White has added a link on the Morning Glory section of his dropbears.com web site . http://www.dropbears.com/brough/rollcloud.htm Regards, Kevin Rodda -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Morning Glory type roll cloud atCabooltureAirfield 07-Aug-09
I've seen it at Millicentcoastal , out of sight in both directions JR - Original Message - From: D S Baker To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Morning Glory type roll cloud atCabooltureAirfield 07-Aug-09 There's also pictures on the WGC website of one coming through WKI. It was 7am or so I believe. A couple of years ago now. Sadly no one got out in time to ride it. Dion timmo you know what i hate timmo errors that wont go away Guilty So you dislike children too 2009/8/10 Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net Travelling north and parallel to the SA coastline I have seen a Morning Glory type of roll cloud on two separate occasions. In both cases I was on my way to the Balaklava Gliding Club around 9:00 am. The roll cloud moved from west to east and dispersed approx.10 km inland. There are also several places in the Middle East where roll clouds are encountered on a regular basis. Kind regards to all Bernard Eckey From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of tom claffey Sent: Monday, 10 August 2009 8:35 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Morning Glory type roll cloud at CabooltureAirfield 07-Aug-09 Yep, Saw it on the way into Brisbane early saturday morning. Very interesting! Two lines were swerling around Moreton bay, never seen the like before. Tom --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Kevin Rodda brisgl...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kevin Rodda brisgl...@gmail.com Subject: [Aus-soaring] Morning Glory type roll cloud at Caboolture Airfield 07-Aug-09 To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Received: Monday, 10 August, 2009, 9:11 AM http://www.glidingcaboolture.org.au/Morning%20Glory%20at%20YCAB%2008Aug09.htm This is not a joke or a prank … I was lucky enough to experience first-hand a few years back a couple of real Morning Glory clouds rolling across Burketown airstrip (they move from north east to south west as they come in from over the Gulf of Carpentaria) and this was remarkably similar. I guess Deception Bay is no Gulf of Carpentaria but it really did try hard this morning! Russell White has added a link on the Morning Glory section of his dropbears.com web site … http://www.dropbears.com/brough/rollcloud.htm Regards, Kevin Rodda -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Need mail bonding? Bring all your contacts to Yahoo!Xtra with TrueSwitch ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] TIGER: 1/3 off sale!
Bollocks, this is definately a non humour, mind your own bee's wax group, if you want to talk all this non gliding associated garbage, I can put you in touch with a person and he can get your very own list to post all the garbage onto, just imagine, your very own list, and then this list could be just someone else's. And as for Miss Dunn , well she more than likely was and probably by you Mr. Holding. Where were you on the night in question ? and on a brighter note, thats all from me.. regards JR Ross, I like to read all this stuff so that people can tell us what we should be thinking, and how to behave on mail lists. I find it refreshing to have people drawing attention to what is (and is not) appropriate to say. The fact that I personally need this guidance is a sad reflection on Miss Dunn, who clearly failed to inculcate an appropriate demeanour in me way back when I was I grade three. It is indeed a privilege to have access to the wisdom of those best able to guide us on our behaviour. I'm not sure by what authority they act, but Miss Dunn pointed out, we should all listen to those who know better. My understanding is that by convention, we have authority to slag - a.. Blaniks b.. GFA c.. Any make of glider d.. New gliders e.. Old gliders f.. CASA g.. All CD's h.. Scorers i.. NCC j.. Computers k.. Contest pilots l.. Non contest pilots This non exhaustive list therefore gives us heads of power to cover a wide range of ground. And now, we get to add 'what to talk about' to the list - very helpful in expanding the scope of discussion. J Simon -- . ___ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] More young people in ancient gliders
ZR was filmed during the 1974 world championships. - Original Message - From: DMcD slutsw...@gmail.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] More young people in ancient gliders HA Here are a couple more videos for vintage buffs. For those folk who could not get the sound out of the last ones, there is no sound. They were shot 16mm MOS. This is a technical term from film days and means Mit out sound. Otto Preminger I think. The previous videos had video in DV format, compressed using H.264 and audio in AAC format. I don't know what that means, but Quicktime ought to sort it out, or use VLC as others suggest. Anyway. These are mainly flex wings. And before you'all turn off, it is interesting to compare these with the other two sets of videos, Zulu Romeo and the Vintage stuff. These videos are almost contemporary with Zulu Romeo I think. ZR was 1994? And these are 1976-7. Most of the pilots at Waikerie would have had hundreds or thousands of hours of experience, while few of the HG pilots here would have had more than 50. The level of development and sophistication of the gliders in the HG video is about the same as the ones in the Vintage sailplane video. You can easily compare a standard Rogallo with a Zogling primary, and in this video, the first of the radical hybrid gliders were starting to appear. In those days you had to fly in a near gale to stay up which in these penetrationally challenged gliders meant sometimes you went over the back. Some things, like the method of flying two-up are quite strange to people now, but that was the accepted way of doing it then. Many of these people are still flying hang gliders or have moved or are moving to plastic gliders. http://www.4shared.com/file/111540268/570b73d0/Ancient_Hang_Gliding2.html http://www.4shared.com/file/111541226/6c63fcb6/Bird_Man_Rally_Yanchep_2.html Best DMcD ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Vintage Sailplane Video
Nothing would happen, I fly Patch's sailplane like that all the time, but dont tell Patch. JR - Original Message - From: DMcD slutsw...@gmail.com To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Vintage Sailplane Video Thanks for Zulu Romeo! I have uploaded a Quicktime movie on vintage gliding. It is a series of old Movietone and Pathe clips, some with a watermark, showing sailplanes in the '30s at places like Dunstable, Brooklands, Wasserkuppe, Italy, France and even at what appears to be Stanwell Park. Launches are by bungy, winch and aerotow. In the Stanwell sequence, the voice over (or observation is it is called in the clip) claims the glider top lands on a horse. Well it nearly does. When the glider does a 360º turn close to the hill, the sink rate makes a standard Rogallo look impressive. Certainly top landing a sailplane at Stanwell would take a bit of nerve. It takes my breath away to see some of the beautiful gull wing planes of the era almost scraping a wing tip on a ridge. And I wonder what would happen now if someone tried to fly one of Patch's group's sailplanes in the same way! http://www.4shared.com/file/111471806/df3eb297/Vintage_Gliding_Video.html I would appreciate any feedback on the Stanwell sequence from people with more knowledge than me. The clips were supplied by Angelo Crapanzano from Italy. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
