Re: [Aus-soaring] FOR SALE: Lak17at 15/18m
Hi All, after much thought I have decided to sell my Lak17at 15/18m glider. Has had very little use, only 180hrs total. solo 2350 sustainer lx7007 vario etc. fiberglass clamshell trailer contact me off line for further info. regards luke ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4
I have been trialling the shorai and can support Johns assessement . Shorai rate their capacities on a cold cranking equivalent, its is entirely misleading if you are looking for a battery to supply a steady current over a long period of time. Their 14 ah will not supply 14ah for 1 hour or 1 ah for 14 hours. I have used their 7ah rated cells and its equivalent capacity compared to SLA or Nimh is more like that of a 2 ah cell. Also they are destroyed by deep discharge. Luke dodd From: Michael Scutter Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 3:55 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 John, that is really interesting. Have you sampled more than one battery or repeated the test on the same battery? Michael Scutter, Education Training Consultant, Email: michael_scut...@yahoo.com.au Mobile: 0417822330 (Int +614178223300) skype://michaelscutter I don't say anything here that I would not say to your face. From: John Parncutt jparn...@bigpond.net.au To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 Hi David, The link you provide is to exactly the same model of Shorai battery I have been evaluating. The load tests I have done give it an actual capacity of 4 A/H (far from the stated capacity of 14 A/H). I have attached an image of the results for your info, for comparison the results on one of our clubs existing (used) lead acid glider batteries is also included. This clearly demonstrates the ability of the Lithium battery to provide an almost constant voltage across its complete discharge period whereas the lead acid battery voltage continually drops to a point where some of our instrumentation and particularly the radio in transmit mode may fail about halfway through discharge. If you note the Shorai literature states an equivalent A/H rating to that of a 14 A/H lead acid battery not an actual A/H rating. This is misleading and I think a bit of sales spin! The comparison I think is based on the Cold Cranking capacity of the battery, ie. the ability to delivery large currents to a starter motor bearing in mind these batteries are designed to replace wet lead acid motorcycle batteries. The bottom line is that the 14 A/H Shorai battery will not deliver 1 amp continuously for 14 hours, well certainly not the one I tested!! John Parncutt From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of David Conway Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013 4:38 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 Agreed; something like this would be better http://www.shoraipower.com/s.nl/it.A/id.91/.f 14AH – twice that of a normal SLA glider battery – and less than half the weight @ 662g David From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Sent: 26 February 2013 15:02 To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 Hi Ian From a safety point of view this is much better than what the Boeing dreamliner is using. However, I would never put a battery like that in a glider unless it is securely placed in a much more impact resistant enclosure. Kind regards Bernard From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ian Mc Phee Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013 2:15 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] LiFePo4 About $87 and notice a new Arcus M was fitted at factory with something similar. This is NOT what B787 is using. Ian M http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22656__ZIPPY_Flightmax_8400mAh_4S2P_30C_LiFePo4_Pack_AUS_Warehouse_.html ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Bruce Taylor
POSTED AND NOW IN THE MAILCould someone please provide me with Bruce’s email address. Thanks luke___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Adam wooley
Hi Adam, Can you please contact me offline regards luke ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] contact for John Orton
John can you please email me. regards luke dodd ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Boat Anchor (Was XCOM 760)
Is there a link to some info on the accident mentioned luke -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net]on Behalf Of Derek Ruddock Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 8:02 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Boat Anchor (Was XCOM 760) For clarification the engine was a turbo, and the pilot's death was unrelated. The engine had 2.8 hours on it before it failed, but Schempp apparently didn't want to know, and neither did Solo, so we have a situation where his poor widow, who knows nothing about gliding, and speaks no German, is trying to sort out the mess. (Apologies to Schleicher and their agent - a case of brain fade :)) -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 6:22 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] XCOM 760 At 08:25 PM 10/06/2009, you wrote: Something else. Essentially one of the bolts on the air 'filter' box (that has no filter) came loose, leaving the aluminium spreader sleeve to be ingested, with the inevitable results. It was definitely NOT an issue on the part of the operator who was meticulous to the extreme in following procedures, (and an engineer to boot) just poor quality control of the engine manufacturer (Solo). Not the fault of Schleicher at all. Now his widow has a $50,000 boat anchor. Derek, So this was the Duo and not the fault of Schempp (not Schleicher?). Was there a fatal accident with it or did the owner die of some other cause? For those who are new: Until about 1996 most self launchers used Rotax 2 strokes of one model or another. Generally these were pretty satisfactory and the preventative maintenance required became known and they gave pretty good service. From talking to some of our Toowoomba EAA members who operate essentially the same engines in ultralights, the circumstances that lead to unscheduled rapid disassembly of the engine are not present in normal motorglider self launch ops. About 1996 or so (could be a year or two later) Rotax couldn't get the glider manufacturers to commit to enough engines to be worth the bother so they stopped making CERTIFIED two strokes for motorgliders while continuing to manufacture uncertified two strokes that were essentially identical to the motorglider engines and both certified and uncertified versions of the 4 stroke 912 and 912S and 914.(the uncertified 4 strokes and 2 strokes) can only be used in ultralights and experimentals and carry a price tag a few thousand dollars lower than that of the same engine with certification paperwork - now unavailable for the 2 strokes). As gliders are certified aircraft, Rotax 2 strokes could no longer be used in self launchers so the manufacturers were forced to look for alternative engines which they eventually found (Solo and the Norton derived rotary in the Schleicher self launchers which had already been in development). I doubt that anyone could seriously claim that the self launch world is better off now than when Rotaxes were near ubiquitous as the new engines had a learning curve and it appears we're still learning. The pity of this is that it is a simple bureaucratic paperwork issue that prevents the use of a satisfactory, proven, still in production engine in self launchers. Remember this when somebody extolls the virtues of certification for gliders. The truth is that, by modern mass production standards, the entire aviation industry nowadays makes prototypes in pre production size batches. Boeing and Airbus are trying to do something about this by standardising aircraft specifications instead of allowing airlines lots of options. For sports aircraft formal certification is nonsense. Recently the Australian Army flew 6 Bell Kiowa (Jet Ranger)helicopters around the western half of Australia as a training exercise. At one point the support vehicle carrying the aircraft doors (they were flying with doors off) rolled and all the doors it was carrying were U/S. You'd think that send some more doors from the aircraft at Oakey would work. (the weather turned cold) Nope. The doors are all individual fits. Try that on your Honda. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.62/2168 - Release Date: 06/10/09 18:30:00
Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike
Yes the wake turbulence might even increase your climb rate luke - Original Message - From: stuart smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike I figure that sharing a thermal with an Orion isn't a problem as long as you are both centred in the thermal properly. The Orion would be flying much larger circles than you. Stuart - Original Message - From: Mark Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike On 22/04/2008, at 6:56 AM, Terry Neumann wrote: JR wrote: I shared a thermal at 8,300 feet with an air force Orion!!, that was unexpected JR I hope you were both turning in the same direction :-P I shared a thermal at 13,000' with a horse-drawn zeppelin. He wasn't turning at all, just dolphin-soaring along a street. 'course, you tell kids these days and they don't believe you. - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Global warming discussion Sigh. Again.
Some people love conspiracy theories. Keep taking the haloperidol. Afraid I'll have to look up my MIMS for that one luke dodd ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Global warming discussion Sigh. Again.
On the patents issue, I read in New Scientist that if a patent is applied for, and the invention is of sig government interest, they can effectively refuse to grant the patent. Also prevent you marketing the product, and throw you in jail if you if you publicise the invention. They effectively steal your invention, also offer no compensation. This may apply only to the US but it was an alarming article. luke dodd - Original Message - From: Dave Long Cath Lincoln [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Global warming discussion Sigh. Again. Some people love conspiracy theories. Keep taking the haloperidol. Dave Long -Original Message- There have been some 240 patents for carburettors which can give performances as high as 200 mpg. None of these have reached the marketplace due to fanatical opposition by the people who gain from the sales of fossil fuels. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Bernard , I was simply stirring the pot and encouraging a healthy discussion. I certainly was not intending to insult the pilots concerned, I know each one presonnally. It was a actually back handed compliment, can we still use that term in australia today? regards luke - Original Message - From: Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:16 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hello Luke I feel that you are not only unfair to me but also to the three pilots involved. Before I acknowledged the pilots (and promptly congratulated them on this newsgroup) I submitted congratulatory e-mails directly to them. Therefore, any sarcastic comments (such as the one in the first line of your posting) are totally out of place!!! Your second line is an insult to other competing top pilots. Butch, for example, competed in the same comp but placed fourth with a gap of around 10% to the winner and approx. 6% to third place. Sorry, you posting was so outrageous that I could not help myself but put the record straight. Definitely no bad feelings though! Kind regards Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Dodd Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 2:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) - number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) - number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? J Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
exactly my point Nick. I struggle to see the how the point was missed-misinterrepret by others. luke I think Luke was responding to Bernard's second post which is congratulatory of the aircraft, not the pilots. From what I read, Luke was making the point that the 3 pilots in question would have placed regardless of their choice of modern 18m glider. Nick. On Nov 21, 2007 3:16 PM, Geoff Kidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know . or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth. This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under control. Bernard's post congratulated the 3 pilots involved, so what is Luke's line 1 all about? Why is it so hard to accept that the ASG29 just might be a pretty good thing? - Original Message - From: Luke Dodd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) – number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? J Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri Logger
Below are the contact details for the Australian Agent. He will certainly be able to supply you withone. Mr JOHN ORTON 30 HEWITT WAY BOORAGOON PERTH, W.A. AUSTRALIA 6154 Tel - +618 9364 4744 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] regards luke - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Colibri Logger Could anyone assist with a source, preferably within Australia for a Colibri Logger Grant Harper -- Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Toowoomba: New Job
Your reply to Adams post is worthless spam. Adam is a friend of mine and I suspect many subscribing to this forum. I certainly don't mind hearing about his exploits and a simple request like this is hardly an issue compared to what does appear from time to time on this forum. luke dodd - Original Message - From: Geoff Kidd To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Toowoomba: New Job I assume all other members of this forum will now advise what jobs they are in, where they work or what new jobs they have taken. It can also become a Real Estate Rental forum as well as a base for self promotion. Gz. Give us a break Adam. - Original Message - From: Adam Woolley To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Toowoomba: New Job G'day All, I've just accepted a new job in Toowoomba, flying for www.austrekair.com.au - starting on 19 Feb. Just wondering if there's someone on this list that may have a room for rent in Toowoomba? 'MMMmmm, 4 gliding clubs to choose from...' dribbles Adam _ Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801577%2Fpi%5F1005244%2Fai%5F838588_t=757768878_r=endtext_simple_m=EXT ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Controversial maybe? FLARM
I had a very close shave at the QLD comps last year. I was visually focussing on the flarm alerts by the two OS pilots flying with me, then in an instant a loud Flarm alert, I looked forward as another pilot screamed past - head on, closure must have been 200kts. I would guess the miss was 30 metres!!! I would have had no chance to avoid. Perhaps I confused this new threat, assuming it was one of the pilots flying with me getting closer. On occassions Flarm has alerted me to risks sooner than I was able to detect visually, but its not a panacea luke - Original Message - From: Bruce Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Controversial maybe? FLARM Tim, I agree with most of what you are saying, and find that it is very rare to have the Flarm alert me of a threat that I didn't already recognise. However, as I have related previously there was one instance a couple of years ago that led to a near miss head-on between myself and Tony Tabart that a Flarm would have averted way before it happened. Both in cruise, the closing speed was huge, and but for Tony seeing my glider at about 200m distance the result would have been really untidy. This is not the only time I have been in such a situation - I hope it doesn't mean I am a dangerous pilot, simply that my hours in a competition environment raise the possibility of my getting involved. I am constantly aware of it, and have had too many reminders that any one of us can be involved. The Flarm only has to save one life and it is worth all the time and effort. The concern about Flarm being used to search for other gliders for competitive advantage is, I believe, a load of horsepooh. Anyone with a sound pair of eyes will see other gliders climbing well if they are within useful range anyway. After a short period of time I have learnt to filter out the Christmas tree effect, and I think this problem is being sorted with better software quite rapidly anyway. Cheers, Bruce. - Original Message - From: Tim Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Controversial maybe? FLARM My Flarm is an excellent backup logger, and and also gives a very fair impersonation of a Christmas tree at times. For the first of these alone it is worth the money; for the second I am either amused or annoyed depending on the circumstances. It has yet to tell me anything I didn't already know, in a collision threat sense. If and when it does, I will be grateful for the information, but I'm not expecting that to happen any time soon. What it HAS told me several times, is the presence of thermalling gliders some distance away to the side and either above or below, and has therefore found me a couple of useful climbs that I would otherwise have missed. Perhaps that is why some pilots want Flarm to be mandatory, and why rumour has it that certain pilots turn them off :) Cheers Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Hart Sent: Friday, 12 January 2007 20:18 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Controversial maybe? FLARM Scott Penrose wrote: Did this midair take place in a thermal or in the criuse? I strongly suspect, as your experience has shown, that FLARM in a busy thermal offers nothing as it is going off and therefore ignored. Sorry - but that is not my experience flying with FLARM in three comps now and at a busy club (100% FLARM both club and private). The most recent update to the software seems to have toned down on the 'false positives' from what I understand, but even when this was occurring all the time (at the first FLARM comp at Lk Keepit in 2005), it was still useful as it did let you see if there was anyone in your blind spots. With the newer (but not the latest) software at the FAI multi-class comps at Kingaroy, the in thermal problem was significantly reduced and its utility improved as a result. I found that if the warning horn sounded it was a good idea to look at where the FLARM was pointing as generally there was an emerging threat (the horn sounds if there is a predicted collision in the next 18secs). With the latest software, there is again an improvement in the thermal handling (as I understand it, but I haven't had a chance to be in a gaggle yet to test it). The new software also turn OFF all the other lights when the horn sounds so that it is really clear where the threat is in relation to your glider. I think - and this has no basis in anything but my own head - that FLARM is most useful in: * Cruise - in
Re: [Aus-soaring] varios(was FLARM maths)
I have taken too much space already... back into my box. BT Oh no you haven't, please vent more from your informed spleen. Luke ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] European sourced FLARM units - compatible withAustralian ones?
I have one of these excellent units, just go into the flarm menu and you can choose whatever flarm frequency you want its listed according to country!!! luke - Original Message - From: Simon Hackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:19 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] European sourced FLARM units - compatible withAustralian ones? Hi Nigel, I have just imported a near new Stemme S10-VT in which I have a (deep breath, this is a mouthful): LX 7007 IGC Pro FLARM i.e. an LX7007 gliding computer with IGC logger and an integrated FLARM unit. I've fired it up, its happily booting, GPS running, and indicating that its transmitting happily. The question is - are all FLARMs globally on the same frequency - i.e. will this unit actually work properly with the ones you sell in Australia? Sure hope so, but I obviously would love to know for sure; As I've never seen a distinction in any description of these units, I hope they work - and in safety terms, for the sake of people bringing non- Australian gliders into Australian airspace (and vice versa) I *really* hope so :) Thanks! Simon Hackett ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please...
as per lat post, my LX7007 with integrated flarm worked perfectly at the QLD stae comps last month. there were two LX7007 flarms working perfectly at the comps. These instruments are designed for worldwide use. If you read the LX7007 manual it tells you how top chnage flarm frequency. luke From: Simon Hackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... On 08/11/2006, at 4:22 PM, Philip Ritchie wrote: Funny story - A pilot brought one over from WA to the last Nationals and only then found out it wasn't working properly as there was no other FLARM in WA to link up with. Sort of sad and lonely really. Honestly, that story isn't sad and lonely, its mildly frightening. In particular, it highlights that you can mandate at a comp that everyone has a FLARM unit, but you (obviously) can't mandate that they all work - i.e. we've all still got to remember these things (like ourselves) are fallible, and fly accordingly. Simon ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: history
Airfix (and Humbrol) has gone bust. I am not surprised. Go into any toy store and the section for plastic model kits is shrinking very rapidly. The toy store at Indooroopilly no longer stocks any plastic model kits. I have seen the 'plastic kit' section shrink and disappear over the past three years. I gained alot of manual skills building countless plastic models as a kid. Something todays generation seems to be missing out on. luke - Original Message - From: Mike Borgelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:59 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Re: history The more mature members of the group may remember that this company once fed a youthful interest in aviation. Airfix (and Humbrol) has gone bust. http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1862203,00.html?gusrc=rssfeed=1 If you''ve ever needed a real matt black for the instrument panel cover that will not reflect in the canopy then Humbrol Matt Black 33 from your toy or hobby shop is the paint to use. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] New Agent for LX Navigation
I wish to advise that John Orton is now the Australian Agent for LX Navigation products. Time constraints have forced me to pass the agency to John. He can be contacted at; Mr JOHN ORTON 30 HEWITT WAY BOORAGOON PERTH, W.A. AUSTRALIA 6154 Tel - +618 9364 4744 Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] John is a very experienced pilot with a very strong tecnical background. He has an excellent knowledge of the products. I wish to thank my customers for their support over the past 7 years. luke dodd ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Coping strategies for colour blindness
Hi Alan, Thanks for your thoughts. I have only just found out my little boy is slightly colour blind. As with you he has trouble distinguishing red/green. Interesting there is no family history on either side. Certainly I am not colour blind, neither was my father or his father. I was very disappointed, naturally. I had hoped he might take his old man for a flight in a F18 one day. However I gained comfort from your comments. regards luke dodd - Original Message - From: Allan Armistead [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 5:12 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Coping strategies for colour blindness Stuart (and others who might be interested). I guess the coping strategies used by we colour blind people use depend on the degree of colour blindness. I can only speak from my own experiences. I don't recall the exact name of my affliction, but mine is realtively mild. Red and green are the usual problem colours. I have problems generally with the finer shades of red and green. I actually had no idea I had a problem until about 2nd of 3rd year high school when a guy came around doing vocational guidance testing and I had all sorts of problems with the Ishahara (?)Test - the book where the pages have numbers made up of coloured dots. It was then I realised why I sometimes said something was light green when it was light grey, or dark brown instead of dark red. I do, though, still see most variations of red and green as somthing that I identify as red and green, but clearly I don't see it the same as you normal people do, either as colour or as intensity. If you are wearing a red or green shirt I know you are. And I love red cars. I see red or green traffic signals - if you turned the lamp set upside down I would know it so I don't go by the top and bottom light to decide if I go through the intersection! In the garden I'll see a red rose but I have to look for it - it doesn't jump out at me the way a yellow or white one does. In terms of coping strategies, the conscious ones at least are pretty simple. If I play golf I will never use a red tee because it will be a single use job! I'll never find it again - so I use yellow or white. If I'm choosing clothes or anything to do with colours (and I hate shopping with a passion) I seek the advice of my very colour wise wife. The biggest major coping strategy though was to have to forget my lifelong ambition to be an airline pilot. The first strategy then was a change of career and I became a civil engineer. When my first posting with the (then) DMR in NSW took me to Wentworth, and the resident works engineer turned out to the president of the Sunraysia Gliding Club, the second major strategy was to take him up on his invitation to go gliding, so flying became my recreation. And, in one of those life-numbers that you don't want to work on too often, I see from my logbook that on 18th December it will be 40 years since that day that changed my life for the better! Other than that, it's not something I really think about, nor am overtly conscious of most of the time. As I sit here looking out my window across the lovely green garden into the clear blue sky it all looks great - whatever colour it really is! Allan Armistead ph (02) 6249 6470, fax (02) 6249 6555, mobile 0413 013 911 PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always will be. Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stuart Kerri FERGUSON Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2005 9:43 To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Colour and other vision issues. Mark King wrote And lastly its such a pity so many pilots my age were stopped from pursing an aviation career in the seventies and earlier because of the misguided actions of CASA in the past. Mark, Back in the 60's and 70's you could get a CPL while colour blind, you just could not hold any form of instrument rating including the Class 4, now known as the NVFR rating. Then some time in the 70's or early 80's they made it a requirement of a CPL to hold a Class 4 instrument rating. However you could not hold a CPL or higher if you had any form of vision correction until 1977 or 1978. Not being colour blind I do not understand the coping strategies colour blind people must be using every day - however back in the late 70's I was doing a night arrival into Perth and I had a friend with me board who was one of these colour blind CPL holders - there were some red displaced threshold warning lights (in those days both ends of the runways were lit green
Re: [Aus-soaring] help!
I doubt his very much, With all the LX instruments I have sold and used, the LX20 plug will not allow down load of data from the LX7000. The LX7000 PC link cable is via a different port on the flight computer. regards luke - Original Message - From: Tom Gilbert To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] help! Thanks Mark... I will pass that info on. Someone at Keepit might have one. Regards, Tom - Original Message - From: Mark Fisher To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 8:59 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] help! Tom, Sounds like the same cable that is on the LX20 logger. I have one those, but am away from home for a few days. Cheers Mark Swift Performance Equipment Unit 5 , 7 Snow St Lismore, NSW 2480 Australia www.spe.com.au ph: +61 2 66221666 fax: +61 2 66221633 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom GilbertSent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:42 PMTo: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netSubject: [Aus-soaring] help! The DG-808S demonstrator arrived in Australia on Thursday and is competing in the NSW State Comps starting today. It has an LX-7000 vario system. What did not come with the glider is the download cable. Does any kind person out there have such a cable. It has a small (8 to 10mm or thereabouts) 5 pin (Binder female) plug at one end with a SUBD9 female at the other. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Regards to all, Tom Tom and Jane GilbertTJ Sailplane ServicesAustralian agents for DG, LS and AMS-FlightWebsite: http://tandjsailplanes.com ___Aus-soaring mailing listAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___Aus-soaring mailing listAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] help!
Hi Tom, have such a best in stock. Give me a call 0419928893 regards luke Luke Dodd INSTRUMENTS Australian Agent LAK GLIDERsLX NAVIGATION, FILSERJAXIDA COVERSSEEYOU, GLIDER RENTAL (07) 3378 2422 WK(07) 3878 5580 Fax0419 928 893 Mob. ABN 61206540659 - Original Message - From: Tom Gilbert To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] help! The DG-808S demonstrator arrived in Australia on Thursday and is competing in the NSW State Comps starting today. It has an LX-7000 vario system. What did not come with the glider is the download cable. Does any kind person out there have such a cable. It has a small (8 to 10mm or thereabouts) 5 pin (Binder female) plug at one end with a SUBD9 female at the other. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Regards to all, Tom Tom and Jane GilbertTJ Sailplane ServicesAustralian agents for DG, LS and AMS-FlightWebsite: http://tandjsailplanes.com ___Aus-soaring mailing listAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] EW Logger and USB-Serial Adapters
Although not directly related to EW, I have found the Belkin USB-Serial converter from Harvey Norman has work very well for all Colibri's and is extremely easy to install. luke Luke Dodd INSTRUMENTS Australian Agent LAK GLIDERs LX NAVIGATION, FILSER JAXIDA COVERS SEEYOU, GLIDER RENTAL FlightPower LiPo batteries (07) 3378 2422 WK (07) 3878 5580 Fax 0419 928 893 Mob. ABN 61206540659 - Original Message - From: Peter Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Cc: DDSC chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] EW Logger and USB-Serial Adapters I have a Dolphin one from Dick Smiths that communicates with WinXP home, Compaq 700, a Colibri and SeeYou but did not get round to checking that it works 100% as I ran out of time but will be testing it again this week if the strip at DDSC becomes flyable after a huge storm last night leaving the Clubhouse blacked out still. Also, if you do get it, comes with a tiny CDom which I threw away as it was in the plastic packet. No mention on the packaging about having a CDrom with the drivers. I thought it was plug and pray. PeterS - Original Message - From: Matthew Gage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 5:28 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] EW Logger and USB-Serial Adapters Yes, but I borrowed it, and can't remember who from or the make/model. I have 3, 2 don't work at all, although are fine with a Garmin, the 3rd works to change the date and declaration, but won't download a trace. EW will sell you one that they say they have tested. It might be worth calling them to get the details. I too would love to know which to buy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 16:21 To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] EW Logger and USB-Serial Adapters Folks, Has anyone had any success in getting an EW Model D Logger to talk to a computer via a USB to RS232 serial adapter? I've tried two different adapters, and neither works properly. I've checked everything else in the system on a desk top computer (with a real serial port), and it all works, but my new laptop daoesn't have a serial port! If you have been successful, I'd love to know how you did it, and the make/model of the adapter David Villiers VH-GMP This message was sent using iiMetro WebMail ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider shipping
Sorry it was meant to be a private reply.
luke
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From:
Luke
Dodd
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider
shipping
Hi Allan,
Thanks for taking the time to offer me the
advice. Most appreciated.
regards luke
- Original Message -
From:
Allan
Armistead
To: Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 11:27
AM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Glider
shipping
I'd endorse Ian's comments re Gary Brasher's
organisation. We took delivery of a DG303 in December from the AMS Flight
factory in Slovenia, Gary was most helpful in organising all aspects of the
shipment which went of with no problems (at least from our
perspective).
I
actually discussed with Gary the possibility of us picking the glider and
trailer up from their yard at Port Botany and towing it away rather than
using a side loader to deliver the container to Tom Gilbert at Camden (Aust
agent), that wouldn't have been a problem with Gary, but the logistics of
doing it from Canberra made it a bit clumsy so we went with the side loader
bit.
Make very sure you have an import permit for the
trailer, as it is classed as a "vehicle" and if you don't have the right
documentation before it lands in Australia it becomes a bureaucratic
nightmare getting it registered. Technically, if it arrives without the
right import documentation being in your hands prior to it docking, you
could be faced with re-exporting or destroying the
trailer
Depending on your state there may be some local
peculiarities to negotiate as the long trailer doesn't sit comfortably in
any of the "standard" categories of vehicle.
There are lots of "additional" costs apart from the
actual shipping (cusoms, quarantine etc etc etc) so make sure you have a
handle on those.
Happy to corespond direct if you need any specific
detail.
Gary Brasher's email contact
is[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Allan Armistead (Canberra
Gliding Club)
a[EMAIL PROTECTED]ph (02) 6249 6470, fax
(02) 6249 6555, mobile 0413 013 911PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602,
Australia"When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always
will be."Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ian
McPheeSent: Saturday, 8 May 2004 8:11To: Discussion
of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.Subject: Re:
[Aus-soaring] Glider shipping
I found Gary Brasher organization good (never
used him before)but there was a bit of a stuff up re booking a
sideloader semi to come to Byron (less than 2 hrs from Brisbane
port).Coordination right through is important. I only delt with Gary
but I guess I should have talked to Brisbane direct Caution side
loaders are becoming very expensive so get a quote. See if you can
get it on a direct boat as we did recently and it guarantees you are not
sitting around in the hot sun at Singapore. Brisbane is the best
value port to ship into and I believe it will be even better in future due
to Patricks expansion - We actually used PO port
Ian McPhee
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From:
Luke
Dodd
To: Discussion of issues
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Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 6:46
AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider
shipping
My Lak17T is ready to ship from Lithuania,
can anyone recommend a shipping agent to arrange freight of the
glider+trailer.
regards luke
Luke Dodd
Australian Agent
LX Navigation, FilserSeeYou , FlyWithCE
SoftwareLAK GLIDERS
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider shipping
Hi Allan,
Thanks for taking the time to offer me the advice.
Most appreciated.
regards luke
- Original Message -
From:
Allan
Armistead
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 11:27
AM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Glider
shipping
I'd
endorse Ian's comments re Gary Brasher's organisation. We took delivery of a
DG303 in December from the AMS Flight factory in Slovenia, Gary was most
helpful in organising all aspects of the shipment which went of with no
problems (at least from our perspective).
I
actually discussed with Gary the possibility of us picking the glider and
trailer up from their yard at Port Botany and towing it away rather than using
a side loader to deliver the container to Tom Gilbert at Camden (Aust agent),
that wouldn't have been a problem with Gary, but the logistics of doing it
from Canberra made it a bit clumsy so we went with the side loader
bit.
Make
very sure you have an import permit for the trailer, as it is classed as a
"vehicle" and if you don't have the right documentation before it lands in
Australia it becomes a bureaucratic nightmare getting it registered.
Technically, if it arrives without the right import documentation being in
your hands prior to it docking, you could be faced with re-exporting or
destroying the trailer
Depending on your state there may be some local
peculiarities to negotiate as the long trailer doesn't sit comfortably in any
of the "standard" categories of vehicle.
There are lots of "additional" costs apart from the
actual shipping (cusoms, quarantine etc etc etc) so make sure you have a
handle on those.
Happy to corespond direct if you need any specific
detail.
Gary
Brasher's email contact
is[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Allan Armistead (Canberra
Gliding Club)
a[EMAIL PROTECTED]ph (02) 6249 6470, fax
(02) 6249 6555, mobile 0413 013 911PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602,
Australia"When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with
your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always will
be."Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ian
McPheeSent: Saturday, 8 May 2004 8:11To: Discussion of
issues relating to Soaring in Australia.Subject: Re:
[Aus-soaring] Glider shipping
I found Gary Brasher organization good (never
used him before)but there was a bit of a stuff up re booking a
sideloader semi to come to Byron (less than 2 hrs from Brisbane
port).Coordination right through is important. I only delt with Gary
but I guess I should have talked to Brisbane direct Caution side
loaders are becoming very expensive so get a quote. See if you can get
it on a direct boat as we did recently and it guarantees you are not sitting
around in the hot sun at Singapore. Brisbane is the best value port to
ship into and I believe it will be even better in future due to Patricks
expansion - We actually used PO port
Ian McPhee
- Original Message -----
From:
Luke
Dodd
To: Discussion of issues
relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 6:46
AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider
shipping
My Lak17T is ready to ship from Lithuania,
can anyone recommend a shipping agent to arrange freight of the
glider+trailer.
regards luke
Luke Dodd
Australian Agent
LX Navigation, FilserSeeYou , FlyWithCE
SoftwareLAK GLIDERS
(07) 3378 2422 W(07) 3858 5580
Fax0419 928 893 Mobile
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider shipping
My Lak17T is ready to ship from Lithuania, can anyone recommend a shipping agent to arrange freight of the glider+trailer. regards luke Luke Dodd Australian Agent LX Navigation, FilserSeeYou , FlyWithCE SoftwareLAK GLIDERS (07) 3378 2422 W(07) 3858 5580 Fax0419 928 893 Mobile ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Roger Bond
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Queensland comp season
Title: Message Dates 2004 QLD State Championships - Kingaroy Practice 25th September 2004 Competition 26 sep-2 Oct 2004 Contact Doug Flockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004 Australian Multiclass Nationals - Dalby , QLD Practice 4,5 Oct 2004 Competition 6-15 October 2004 Contact Ralph Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] regards luke - Original Message - From: RF Developments Pty Ltd To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 8:00 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Queensland comp season Hi John, I should know the exact dates but I will advise, the QLD state comps is traditionally the last few days of September and the first few of October, the Nationals start 2 days after the QLD comps. Will find out the exact dates. Cheers Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd "A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics" Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John OrtonSent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:45 AMTo: ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Queensland comp season Hi Thanks for this info Nigel. Is the information on dates for the Qld State Comps and the Nationals published any where. I have been keeping an eye open for it but as yet have not seen it. -Original Message-From: RF Developments Pty Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 30 January 2004 6:35 AMTo: Soaring ListSubject: [Aus-soaring] Queensland comp season Hi All, This year in Queensland there are 3 major comps running, Chinchilla Easter comps ( sports class single and 2 seater ) , Kingaroy State comps and the Dalby Nationals. Already accommodation outside these airfieldsis filling fast so if you are thinking of coming you might want to consider checking into availability. Cheers Nigel P.S Both Kingaroy and Chinchilla have onsite camping available, even limited bunkhouse numbers at Kingaroy as well ___Aus-soaring mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Rego Stickers
Thank you Michael. Very helpful, pity the guy I had make the stickers wasn't more helpful. His advice just be careful! Luke - Original Message - From: Michael Coates To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Rego Stickers I used to own a sign shop. this is what we gave to our customers who wanted to di it themselves.. APPLICATION OF VINYL SIGNAGEWhat have you Got ?. Your job has been supplied as three layers, the top layer is kind of an opaque whitish paper, this is the application paper or transfer tape. Beneath this layer is the vinyl graphic or text and underneath the vinyl is the carrier paper. Application Paper. After vinyl is cut and weeded, application paper also called transfer tape is usually applied over the completed graphics or lettering. This application paper serves many purposes, first it protects the surface of the vinyl from damage during application and it also maintains the proper spacing or layout of the job during application. Surface Preparation. Basically its common sense .. The surface must be clean and free from dirt, dust, grease etc we find the best cleaning agent to be Metholated Sprits. Before installing the graphics spray or wipe Metho over the job and dry off by rubbing with a clean cloth, on glass a piece of newspaper is also recommended. Application Temperature. Vinyl is best applied between 15 and 30 degrees Celsius, if for example the vinyl is being applied to a car, cool the car with running water or park out of the sun to allow the vehicle to cool. Plan Your Installation. Carefully study the installation area, hold the job against where it is being applied and visualise exactly where it is going, it may help to draw some guidelines or use some tape as markers to assist with lining up your job once the carrier layer is removed. Application of the Graphic. Now the hard part .. Remove the carrier paper from the job, the easiest way is to lay the graphic upside down and carefully pull the carrier paper off, this will leave you with the vinyl graphic attached to the transfer tape, please be careful because now the graphic will stick to anything it touches. There are two methods of applying vinyl, wet and dry, we recommend dry application for small jobs only, wet application is our preferred method. Using a small sprayer or water mister, spray the back of the vinyl with a mixture of water and say one teaspoon of detergent to half a litre of water mixture, this will allow the vinyl to be repositioned a couple of times before it is permanently placed, when your satisfied with the position, use a squeegee or credit card to work the graphic to the surface with reasonable pressure, this method expels the excess water and promotes a good clean bond. After say one hour remove the transfer tape by wetting it with water, allow about two minutes to soften the adhesives in the transfer tape and then carefully pull the tape off the graphic. Youve done it! You should now be left with a nice graphic on your job, if there are any bubbles in the vinyl use a pin to break the vinyl surface and expel the water caught beneath. Your graphic should last several years in most environments if the surface has been properly prepared before the vinyl application . Well done. Application squeegees are available for purchase at $10.00 each Any questions please give me a call on 07 5568 7770. Thanks Michael CoatesLuke Dodd wrote: Can anyone offer any guidaince with putting stick-on vinyl aircraft registration lettering. My first efforts on the trailer where not good enough. One letter will need to be removed and a new one placed. I vaguely remember in my RC model days that applying detergent and water to the surface where the sticker was to be applied first, allowed you to express all the air bubbles and position the sticker where you wanted it. appreciate any help from those in the know. regards luke ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- With kind regards Michael Coates Company Director - X-Air Australia Phone 0418 168 665 Australia +61 418 168 665 International Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Sites Main Web Site http://www.mcp.com.au Sting Web Site http://www.mcp.com.au/sting X-Air Web Site http://www.xair.com.au XCOM Web Site http://www.xcom760.com Sinus Web Site http://www.mcp.com.au/sinus Sting USA http://www.gosportpilot.com Pipistrel USA http://www.pipistrel-usa.com "Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been,
Re: [Aus-soaring] Rego Stickers
Can anyone offer any guidaince with putting stick-on vinyl aircraft registration lettering. My first efforts on the trailer where not good enough. One letter will need to be removed and a new one placed. I vaguely remember in my RC model days that applying detergent and water to the surface where the sticker was to be applied first, allowed you to express all the air bubbles and position the sticker where you wanted it. appreciate any help from those in the know. regards luke ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] RTO-A QLD
Can anyone help with the name and address of the RTO-A for QLD thanks luke ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Becker radio pin outputs
Can anyone please help with the pin outputs for a becker radio. I have jsut received my LS8 (without instruments) and cannot figure out the 25 pin plug for the radio. Thank you regards luke ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Parachutes
I agree, I spent quite a bit ($2800 I think) on a new PA chute about a year ago, thought I would support an Australian manufacturer, rather than cheaper imported chutes, no advice was given on a 20 year life. luke dodd - Original Message - From: ANDREW WRIGHT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Parachutes My 2cents worth I personally am quite peeved at this and I think it could just be a revenue raising exercise on the part of PA. I am peeved because I just spent a large amount of money on reconditioning my PA chute a short time ago and PA took my money with no mention of this. I now have a chute in perfect condition that will be US in a short time. I know what the experts will say, I.E. This is a liability issue. Not True! PA could have just as easily issued a AD requiring life extension on the basis of inspection. This passes any legal liability onto the inspector. Anyway enough of my bleating, I will vote with my wallet and buy a National from Mike Borgelt. Yes I got knocked back on a chute (the German girl involved in local school phoned up PA to check!!) pack because of this new AD from Aug and am surprised there has not been more publicity of same as it could well involve a large number chutes in Oz in Gliding. Leaving the chute AS IS is not an option as all the rubber bands (from office supply co) will be perrished as mine were. Tom G alerted me to it at Queensland comps time Ian McPhee Box 657 Byron Bay NSW 2481 Australia Tel +61 (0)2 66 847 642 Mob +61 (0)428 847 642 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mrsoaring.com - Original Message - From: Glenn McLean To: Ken McCracken Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:47 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Parachutes Ken, I found out today that Parachutes Australia have issued a Service Bulletin (No.PA SB9502 Rev 2) which lifes their containers,harness and canopies for the types listed, at 20yrs. The list includes most types which we normally use in gliders, including the slimpacks and thinbacks. If the equipment has exceeded that time, it is to be taken out of service. We have 8 which are suddenly of no use, and I suspect many other clubs are in a similar situation. I don't recall seeing any advice on this matter and note that the bulletin distribution did not include GFA, although I was told someone at GFA officewas informed. As there is a requirement to have a serviceable parachute for comps, this may affect some entrants to this years events. Forwarded for your information. Regards Glenn Mclean -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ANDREW WRIGHT ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [aus-soaring] Garmin GPSMAP 76S
I sell a GPS mouse for $295, with a compaq ipaq connector. It takes 12V input which powers GPS engine and compaq. Unit is self-contained with integral antenna. Very neat GPS datasource. Compaq can run a multitude of programs from winpilot, to flywithCE etc, providing not only navigation functions but also final glide etc. luke dodd Luke Dodd Instruments Australian/New Zealand Agent Colibri Dataloggers Filser Instruments/SeeYou Software FlyWithCE Software 9 HILL PARK CRESCENT ROCHEDALE, QLD 4123 AUSTRALIA Ph (07) 3378 2422 W Fax (07) 3878 5580 Mob 0419 928 893 - Original Message - From: Jim Kelly, Kellwood Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aus-Soaring-List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Garmin GPSMAP 76S In this price range a real consideration is a low cost gps driving an HP iPaq 3950 with WinPilot www.winpilot.com (or one of the 'free' alternative) gliding programs. You can then further add Melways or Sydways for use in your car, and use OziExplorer with your own scanned maps , etc, etc. clip_image002.jpg
Re: [aus-soaring] Comparison of EW vs Colibri vs VolksLogger?
- Original Message - From: Mike Borgelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] In my opinion the main difference is the built in antenna on the Volkslogger and the form factor that is designed for mounting on the old camera mount on the canopy rail. Cambridge loggers have these features too at greater price. A recent addition to the Colibri model range is an integral antenna fitted to the case. A fact oviously not noticed after my expensive back page advert recently in AG. One feature I didn't like with the Volkslogger is that it deletes flight files from the logger once downloaded to a PC. Is this still the case Mike? Retaining flight files in the logger after download has some benefits, eg at comps. I can download my logger with the flight file once retrieved from the scorer. Alternatively I download my Colibri onto my Compaq Ipac when I am tying down before taking the logger to the scorer. Also if I download my Colibri onto the Clubs PC, the flight is still in the logger when I get home. I delete flights from my logger when I wish. The keyboard size makes operation of the Colibri easier in-flight. But I don't want to get into an argument between dealers, which is why I have kept out of this discussion so far. Each logger on the market presents a blend of features, strengths, relative weaknesses (they all work in producing IGC files), reliability and pricing structure. luke dodd Luke Dodd Instruments Australian/New Zealand Agent Colibri Dataloggers Filser Instruments/SeeYou Software FlyWithCE Software 9 HILL PARK CRESCENT ROCHEDALE, QLD 4123 AUSTRALIA Ph (07) 3378 2422 W Fax (07) 3878 5580 Mob 0419 928 893 -- * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * with unsubscribe aus-soaring in the body of the message * or with help in the body of the message for more information.
[aus-soaring] Re: LS Gliders
Can anyone help with a website for LS Gliders and an email address for Peter Holmes. Thankyou luke Luke Dodd Instruments Australian AgentColibri DataloggersFilser Instruments/SeeYou Software 9 HILL PARK CRESCENTROCHEDALE, QLD 4123AUSTRALIA Ph (07) 3378 2422 WFax (07) 3878 5580Mob 0419 928 893
[aus-soaring] Re: New Instruments
A quick for info note. New products from Filser have been released which include, LX7000 model of flight computer, LX1600 a digital vario which connects to a Compaq Ipaq handheld for a full flight computer. Handheld PC flight software - Fly withCE GPS Mouse - a small self-contained GPS engine for use with a Palmtop or notebook for portable GPS info. Connects to 12Volt battery. Accessories inc Solid mount for Compaq Ipac Cable for connecting Colibri/LX20 to Ipaq with self contained 12-5V converter to power the handheld. Further details contact me. regards luke Luke Dodd Instruments Australian Agent Colibri Dataloggers Filser Instruments/SeeYou Software 9 HILL PARK CRESCENT ROCHEDALE, QLD 4123 AUSTRALIA Ph (07) 3841 6083 Fax (07) 3878 5580 Mob 0419 928 893 -- * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * with unsubscribe aus-soaring in the body of the message * or with help in the body of the message for more information.
Re: [aus-soaring] Canopy cleaning
A wise and meticulous gliding friend of mine, advised washing your canopy with a very high quality(soft) chamois, water plus a small amount of fabric softener to act as an anti-static agent to stop the dust clinging? luke - Original Message - From: Ian Linke To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] Canopy cleaning John, Best things to clean your canopy is detergent water and a clean chamois. Regs Ian Linke Aviation Acrylic Mouldings - Original Message - From: Ashford To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: [aus-soaring] Canopy cleaning I am repeating this message as it doesn't seem to have got to the lists ths first time. On the subject of cleaning of canopies. Mybelief is that anything with ammonia such as Windex is taboo for perspex (or clear acrylic). As there are some differing opinions within our club can anyone point me towards an authorative document that explains why ammonia products should not be used on perspex, or I'm happy to be corrected. My understanding is thatammonia leaches the hydrocarbon binders and cause fine crazing which appears to the user as a milky appearance. I need to resolve this to people new to our club as they are getting mixed messages. regards John Ashford Alice Springs
Re: [aus-soaring] DOS
For those who use a palmtop/handheld PC and run Microsoft activesynch will be annoyed the way the program 'hogs' the serial port, making it unavailable for other programs. This occurs even when the program is closed. You have to actually disable the serial port selected in activesynch "Connection Settings" before you get your port back. Another consideration when upgrading PC hardware, alot of new PC's dont have a serial port (RS232). I realise this is not a computer forum, but does anyone know how to stop Win XP writing to the hard disk , often for 60seconds for no apparaent reason, rendering the PC unresponsive until finished? PS For Colibri/LX20 owners; LX explorer(freeware) runs fine under XP, this program provides all the functions of LXFAI with improvements. Luke Dodd Australian Agent Colbri Dataloggers/Filser Instruments 'SeeYou" Software 9 Hill Park Crescent, ROCHEDALE, QLD 4123 AUSTRALIA Ph (07) 3841 6083 Mob 0419928893 John Parncutt wrote: 009001c20e17$b374ad00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> As each new version of Windows is released there seems to be less support for DOS programs. One of the main issues I have found is that the serial ports get taken over by Windows which means that when you go to transfer data from the logger under DOS you can get all kinds of conflicts happening. I have found the best solution to this is software that allows you to select an operating system when you boot. I use Vcom System Commander. This allows you to have several operating systems installed on the same boot drive ie. different versions of Windows, linix, OS2 and of course DOS (multiple versions if you like!) It also allows you to repartition you hard disk and set up the operating systems on other partitions (a bit like Partition Magic). When you boot up you are presented with a menu of all the different systems you have installed. All in all a good solution to the problem John Parncutt VMFG Melbourne - Original Message - From: Ronald EBaker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: [aus-soaring] DOS It was only recently that I became aware that Microsoft Windows XP will not work with DOS. I dont know how this will affect those flight recorders that use a DOS system. Think about it folks before you upgrade your computers! Ron Baker.
Re: [aus-soaring] FS: Filser LX5000
Hi Robert, Sorry I haven't replied last week as I stated. I have yet to receive payment for the order I mentioned and suspect it may not eventuate. Although I am interested in the LX5000 I cannot make a firm offer at this stage. I hope this will change soon. regards luke Robert Beth Bradley wrote: 001e01c1ecf6$73dc1e40$df1f8690@beast"> Greetings all, I have a Filser LX5000 Gps Navavailable. Quite a nice piece of kit. Large Nav display and analogue vario/speed to fly displays. Version 4.2software. All cables, manuals etc. Robert Bradley
