Re: [Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings
Hi Gary Yes, I can't get the Australian Atmospheric Soundings either. Please drop me a line when you have the solution. Many thanks and kind regards Bernard _ From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of gstev...@bigpond.com Sent: Friday, 16 September 2011 4:15 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings Anybody else having recent trouble connecting to this site? Anybody got Mark Newton's contact details? Please advise details offline. Regards, Gary ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings
On 19/09/2011, at 3:50 PM, Future Aviation wrote: Yes, I can't get the Australian Atmospheric Soundings either. Please drop me a line when you have the solution. Can you give it a try now, please? - mark I tried an internal modem,new...@atdot.dotat.org but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings
Anybody else having recent trouble connecting to this site? Anybody got Mark Newton's contact details? Please advise details offline. Regards, Gary___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings
Traveling now. Will check when I get home tonight. - mark On 16/09/2011, at 4:44 PM, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote: Anybody else having recent trouble connecting to this site? Anybody got Mark Newton's contact details? Please advise details offline. Regards, Gary ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings
Internet Explorer returns a Bad Request error. It works fine with Chrome. Before everyone suggests upgrading to a better browser – I don’t have a choice at work. Pete From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mark Newton Sent: Friday, 16 September 2011 4:37 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Cc: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings Traveling now. Will check when I get home tonight. - mark On 16/09/2011, at 4:44 PM, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote: Anybody else having recent trouble connecting to this site? Anybody got Mark Newton's contact details? Please advise details offline. Regards, Gary ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings
On 16/09/2011, at 6:40 PM, Mandy and Peter Temple wrote: Internet Explorer returns a Bad Request error. It works fine with Chrome. Before everyone suggests upgrading to a better browser – I don’t have a choice at work. I think this is related to a workaround I put in a few weeks ago for a security fault found in Apache (CVE-2011-3192 for those who must know). Give it another try now and let me know how it goes. - mark I tried an internal modem,new...@atdot.dotat.org but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings
On 16/09/11 21:13, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote: Thanks Mark, Like Peter T, I am using IE as my browser, Yeah, the error message mentioned Apache. Now working just fine. You must have re-tickled the program in just in the right spot: Thank goodness! I was not looking forward to brushing up on using Skew-T data off the University of Wyoming site. Gary The SkewT/LogP is a bit complicated until you get used to it. I have attempted to explain how to use it in the following article. http://the-white-knight-speaks.blogspot.com/2009/10/understanding-and-using-atmospheric.html If you have a read of that and still are having difficulty, I'd be happy to talk you through using it. The really big advantage of using the SkewT/LogP diagram is that this is what NOAA puts out - which forecasts what the atmosphere will be doing during the day. One of the inputs into its forecasting model NOAA use is the data from Australian temp traces. Whilst looking at the actual temp traces is certainly useful, looking in the morning here in Aus means that you are looking at the 2300hrs trace from yesterday - and furthermore there are large areas of Australia that are nowhere near a site that does temp traces with balloons. We've been using the NOAA forecasting tools now for quite a few years at DDSC and, whilst there are limitations (principally close to trough lines here in Qld), once you get used to these NOAA's SkewT/LogP is an exceptionally useful tool. -- Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au +61 (0)438 385 533 http://www.hart.wattle.id.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings
I may be mistaken, but I thought the 2300hr trace was UTC time, which fits with it being published at about 9.30 here in SA. -Matthew On Sep 17, 2011 8:10 AM, Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au wrote: On 16/09/11 21:13, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote: Thanks Mark, Like Peter T, I am using IE as my browser, Yeah, the error message mentioned Apache. Now working just fine. You must have re-tickled the program in just in the right spot: Thank goodness! I was not looking forward to brushing up on using Skew-T data off the University of Wyoming site. Gary The SkewT/LogP is a bit complicated until you get used to it. I have attempted to explain how to use it in the following article. http://the-white-knight-speaks.blogspot.com/2009/10/understanding-and-using-atmospheric.html If you have a read of that and still are having difficulty, I'd be happy to talk you through using it. The really big advantage of using the SkewT/LogP diagram is that this is what NOAA puts out - which forecasts what the atmosphere will be doing during the day. One of the inputs into its forecasting model NOAA use is the data from Australian temp traces. Whilst looking at the actual temp traces is certainly useful, looking in the morning here in Aus means that you are looking at the 2300hrs trace from yesterday - and furthermore there are large areas of Australia that are nowhere near a site that does temp traces with balloons. We've been using the NOAA forecasting tools now for quite a few years at DDSC and, whilst there are limitations (principally close to trough lines here in Qld), once you get used to these NOAA's SkewT/LogP is an exceptionally useful tool. -- Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au +61 (0)438 385 533 http://www.hart.wattle.id.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings
On 17/09/11 09:41, Matthew Scutter wrote: I may be mistaken, but I thought the 2300hr trace was UTC time, which fits with it being published at about 9.30 here in SA. Yes - my brain was clearly coffee starved when I wrote that. But the point remains that if you are planning a flight, the 9:30am strace in Adelaide is still not much help and you will almost certainly be using one from the previous night. You will still be better off using the NOAA forecast SkewT/LogP (for your exact location, which is unlikely to be Adelaide ;-) -- Robert Hart ha...@interweft.com.au +61 (0)438 385 533 http://www.hart.wattle.id.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings (temporarily) busted
Mark Newton wrote: Some of you have emailed me to let me know that the temp trace site at http://slash.dotat.org/cgi-bin/atmos is stuck at Oct 18th. For those in SA, this page has been working all along. http://members.iweb.net.au/~ustauss/GlidingWeatherSA.htm -- Leigh Bunting Colonel Light Gardens South Australia Open Windows and let the bugs in ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings (temporarily) busted
Some of you have emailed me to let me know that the temp trace site at http://slash.dotat.org/cgi-bin/atmos is stuck at Oct 18th. I'm aware of the issue, and have contacted the BoM about it. I'm not really expecting a response until at least Monday though, so perhaps we'll have to do without it for a weekend. Sometimes the best way to work out something's usefulness is to try to do without it. :-) Just for reference: The SQL database which sits behind this facility is now about 6 Gbytes in size. That's a lot of weather... - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Australian Atmospheric Soundings (temporarily) busted
Mark Now that you've got 6GB of data, can you perhaps tell us where to find the thermals ? Seriously though, thanks for all you do to help all of us understand what Mother Nature is dishing out to us. Regards Jason At 07:27 PM 22/10/2004, you wrote: Some of you have emailed me to let me know that the temp trace site at http://slash.dotat.org/cgi-bin/atmos is stuck at Oct 18th. I'm aware of the issue, and have contacted the BoM about it. I'm not really expecting a response until at least Monday though, so perhaps we'll have to do without it for a weekend. Sometimes the best way to work out something's usefulness is to try to do without it. :-) Just for reference: The SQL database which sits behind this facility is now about 6 Gbytes in size. That's a lot of weather... - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
