Re: [Aus-soaring] Would you fly on a pilotless plane?

2014-09-22 Thread Justin Couch

On 22/09/2014 3:47 pm, Texler, Michael wrote:


There has been recent press/hype about hack-ability of new cars that use 
Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. Media beat-up, panic or some merit?
(http://au.pcmag.com/opinion/23312/security-experts-identify-20-most-hackable-cars)


Well, certainly makes stealing cars a heck of a lot easier if all you 
have to do is
hang out in a carpark for an hour or so and then walk up to the target 
of choice and drive away without having to be noisy breaking windows or 
jimmying doors. Almost always, the product producers prefer to provide 
easy of use over security (eg MS Windows), and only add on security 
after being embarrassed enough by high profile breaches or the insurance 
industry.




Would a pilotless aircraft be any less susceptible to been hacked?


That is dependent on the standards used and ensuring appropriate amounts 
of encryption and other security measures, then on the authorities being 
willing to enforce them. Hopefully for something like this they call in 
real experts, not the local sysadmin.



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Justin
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Would you fly on a pilotless plane?

2014-09-22 Thread Peter Champness
The stats were interesting.  Pilot error is the leading cause of airliner
accidents, greater than all other causes combined.

However maybe we still want a pilot there.  Sometimes they manage the right
response when all else fails.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Nelson Handcock nelson.handc...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Somewhat offtopic perhaps, but would be interested in
 observations/reactions from the soaring community


 http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/sci-tech/are-you-ready-to-fly-on-a-pilotless-plane-20140921-10j70w.html



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Re: [Aus-soaring] Would you fly on a pilotless plane?

2014-09-22 Thread Anthony Smith
It starts to sound like the old joke of the modern airliner only having a pilot 
and a dog in the cockpit.  The pilots job is to feed the dog.  The dog is there 
to bite the pilot if he tries to touch the controls.

 

 

 

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The stats were interesting.  Pilot error is the leading cause of airliner 
accidents, greater than all other causes combined.

 

However maybe we still want a pilot there.  Sometimes they manage the right 
response when all else fails.

 

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Nelson Handcock nelson.handc...@gmail.com 
mailto:nelson.handc...@gmail.com  wrote:

Somewhat offtopic perhaps, but would be interested in observations/reactions 
from the soaring community

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/sci-tech/are-you-ready-to-fly-on-a-pilotless-plane-20140921-10j70w.html



 


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Re: [Aus-soaring] Would you fly on a pilotless plane?

2014-09-22 Thread Matthew Scutter
That's self defeating, what about all the times the pilot has done
something wrong a computer would have handled fine?

It's just a matter of time... Self flying planes should be a much simpler
problem than self driving cars/buses/trucks.
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Would you fly on a pilotless plane?

2014-09-22 Thread Ross McLean
Has anyone else read QF32 by Richard de Crespigny? Might change your mind 
about the pilot and dog theory...

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[Aus-soaring] Would you fly on a pilotless plane?

2014-09-21 Thread Nelson Handcock
Somewhat offtopic perhaps, but would be interested in
observations/reactions from the soaring community

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/sci-tech/are-you-ready-to-fly-on-a-pilotless-plane-20140921-10j70w.html
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Would you fly on a pilotless plane?

2014-09-21 Thread Texler, Michael

There has been recent press/hype about hack-ability of new cars that use 
Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. Media beat-up, panic or some merit?
(http://au.pcmag.com/opinion/23312/security-experts-identify-20-most-hackable-cars)

Would a pilotless aircraft be any less susceptible to been hacked?

On the flip side, there are very many UAVs flying around as we speak. But how 
real is the threat of hacking to them?
(http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140206-can-drones-be-hacked)

At the end of the day it comes done to risk assessment, no system is perfect.

I don't think gliding on planet Earth will be pilotless quite yet, but aren't 
they working on a Martian solution 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Scout_Program)?
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