Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours
Hi Lukas Many thanks for helping to clarify the issue. It now appears that leaving the word Royal out was correct after all! Kind regards Bernard From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Lucas James Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 5:07 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours G'Day Bernard, The AAFC (and the AIRTC before them) are a unit within the RAAF (they come under Vice Chief of the Air Force, IIRC). Unlike the Army, which had units/corps that had been afforded Royal Title, only the RAAF as a whole were given the Royal treatment. regards, Lucas On 28/01/14 09:01, Future Aviation wrote: Hi Justin Please accept my apology, but in all correspondence relating to this contract there is only a reference to the Australian Air Force Cadets. I can't explain why not a single document was referring to the Royal Australian Air Force. Can you explain that? Kind regards to all Bernard From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Justin Sinclair Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 7:48 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Cc: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours Bernard, If you are going to be precise about information on this site and others, would you kindly refer to the organisation you and your business is supporting as the Royal Australian Air Force as that. It is not the australian air force, it is the RAAF. Many men and women have died fighting for this country in activities associated with aeroplanes whilst serving in the RAAF, you do them a great disservice by flippantly not getting details correct in correspondence attempting to address rumour and innuendo. Kind regards Justin Justin Sinclair 17 Queen st. Scarborough Qld 4020 Hm 07 3885 8949 Mob 0421 061 811 Email jjsincl...@optusnet.com.au Sent from my iPad On 28 Jan 2014, at 6:36 am, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net wrote: Good morning all Judging by two recent telephone calls there appears to be some misinformation in gliding circles on the latest Australian Air Force order for new training aircraft. The following is fact - the rest is unsubstantiated rumours: #61623 The Air Force has ordered 11 (eleven) Schleicher ASK 21 Mi for basic training of cadets #61623 All of these gliders are self launchers and come with trailers #61623 The aircraft will be based at four different training centres throughout the country #61623 Deliveries begin in August of 2014 and the contract includes shipping, registration, aircraft inspection, delivery and operator training To ensure that the rumour mill doesn't spread further let me point out that a previous order for pure sailplanes from dg was not cancelled. Kind regards to all Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- I was going to include a witty saying But I couldn't think of one ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours
Just to clarify. The Australian Air Force Cadets is an entity in its own right, it is NOT part of the Royal Australian Air Force. Details, if you are interested in Acts or Regulations can be found here: http://www.defenceyouth.gov.au/resources/cadet-force-regulations.aspx The AAFC however administered by the RAAF. DG1001s and Schleicher ASK 21 Mi will be used to train AAFC members. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 6:46 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours Hi Lukas Many thanks for helping to clarify the issue. It now appears that leaving the word Royal out was correct after all! Kind regards Bernard From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Lucas James Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 5:07 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours G'Day Bernard, The AAFC (and the AIRTC before them) are a unit within the RAAF (they come under Vice Chief of the Air Force, IIRC). Unlike the Army, which had units/corps that had been afforded Royal Title, only the RAAF as a whole were given the Royal treatment. regards, Lucas On 28/01/14 09:01, Future Aviation wrote: Hi Justin Please accept my apology, but in all correspondence relating to this contract there is only a reference to the Australian Air Force Cadets. I can't explain why not a single document was referring to the Royal Australian Air Force. Can you explain that? Kind regards to all Bernard From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Justin Sinclair Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 7:48 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Cc: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours Bernard, If you are going to be precise about information on this site and others, would you kindly refer to the organisation you and your business is supporting as the Royal Australian Air Force as that. It is not the australian air force, it is the RAAF. Many men and women have died fighting for this country in activities associated with aeroplanes whilst serving in the RAAF, you do them a great disservice by flippantly not getting details correct in correspondence attempting to address rumour and innuendo. Kind regards Justin Justin Sinclair 17 Queen st. Scarborough Qld 4020 Hm 07 3885 8949 Mob 0421 061 811 Email jjsincl...@optusnet.com.au mailto:jjsincl...@optusnet.com.au Sent from my iPad On 28 Jan 2014, at 6:36 am, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net mailto:ec...@internode.on.net wrote: Good morning all Judging by two recent telephone calls there appears to be some misinformation in gliding circles on the latest Australian Air Force order for new training aircraft. The following is fact - the rest is unsubstantiated rumours: #61623 The Air Force has ordered 11 (eleven) Schleicher ASK 21 Mi for basic training of cadets #61623 All of these gliders are self launchers and come with trailers #61623 The aircraft will be based at four different training centres throughout the country #61623 Deliveries begin in August of 2014 and the contract includes shipping, registration, aircraft inspection, delivery and operator training To ensure that the rumour mill doesn't spread further let me point out that a previous order for pure sailplanes from dg was not cancelled. Kind regards to all Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- I was going to include a witty saying But I couldn't think of one ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours
Many thanks, Sean - this explains the situation once and for all. Kind regards Bernard From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Sean Jorgensen-Day Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2014 7:57 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours Just to clarify. The Australian Air Force Cadets is an entity in its own right, it is NOT part of the Royal Australian Air Force. Details, if you are interested in Acts or Regulations can be found here: http://www.defenceyouth.gov.au/resources/cadet-force-regulations.aspx The AAFC however administered by the RAAF. DG1001s and Schleicher ASK 21 Mi will be used to train AAFC members. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 6:46 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours Hi Lukas Many thanks for helping to clarify the issue. It now appears that leaving the word Royal out was correct after all! Kind regards Bernard From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Lucas James Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 5:07 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours G'Day Bernard, The AAFC (and the AIRTC before them) are a unit within the RAAF (they come under Vice Chief of the Air Force, IIRC). Unlike the Army, which had units/corps that had been afforded Royal Title, only the RAAF as a whole were given the Royal treatment. regards, Lucas On 28/01/14 09:01, Future Aviation wrote: Hi Justin Please accept my apology, but in all correspondence relating to this contract there is only a reference to the Australian Air Force Cadets. I can't explain why not a single document was referring to the Royal Australian Air Force. Can you explain that? Kind regards to all Bernard From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Justin Sinclair Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 7:48 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Cc: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours Bernard, If you are going to be precise about information on this site and others, would you kindly refer to the organisation you and your business is supporting as the Royal Australian Air Force as that. It is not the australian air force, it is the RAAF. Many men and women have died fighting for this country in activities associated with aeroplanes whilst serving in the RAAF, you do them a great disservice by flippantly not getting details correct in correspondence attempting to address rumour and innuendo. Kind regards Justin Justin Sinclair 17 Queen st. Scarborough Qld 4020 Hm 07 3885 8949 Mob 0421 061 811 Email jjsincl...@optusnet.com.au Sent from my iPad On 28 Jan 2014, at 6:36 am, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net wrote: Good morning all Judging by two recent telephone calls there appears to be some misinformation in gliding circles on the latest Australian Air Force order for new training aircraft. The following is fact - the rest is unsubstantiated rumours: #61623 The Air Force has ordered 11 (eleven) Schleicher ASK 21 Mi for basic training of cadets #61623 All of these gliders are self launchers and come with trailers #61623 The aircraft will be based at four different training centres throughout the country #61623 Deliveries begin in August of 2014 and the contract includes shipping, registration, aircraft inspection, delivery and operator training To ensure that the rumour mill doesn't spread further let me point out that a previous order for pure sailplanes from dg was not cancelled. Kind regards to all Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- I was going to include a witty saying But I couldn't think of one ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours
Good morning all Judging by two recent telephone calls there appears to be some misinformation in gliding circles on the latest Australian Air Force order for new training aircraft. The following is fact - the rest is unsubstantiated rumours: . The Air Force has ordered 11 (eleven) Schleicher ASK 21 Mi for basic training of cadets . All of these gliders are self launchers and come with trailers . The aircraft will be based at four different training centres throughout the country . Deliveries begin in August of 2014 and the contract includes shipping, registration, aircraft inspection, delivery and operator training To ensure that the rumour mill doesn't spread further let me point out that a previous order for pure sailplanes from dg was not cancelled. Kind regards to all Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours
Bernard, If you are going to be precise about information on this site and others, would you kindly refer to the organisation you and your business is supporting as the Royal Australian Air Force as that. It is not the australian air force, it is the RAAF. Many men and women have died fighting for this country in activities associated with aeroplanes whilst serving in the RAAF, you do them a great disservice by flippantly not getting details correct in correspondence attempting to address rumour and innuendo. Kind regards Justin Justin Sinclair 17 Queen st. Scarborough Qld 4020 Hm 07 3885 8949 Mob 0421 061 811 Email jjsincl...@optusnet.com.au Sent from my iPad On 28 Jan 2014, at 6:36 am, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net wrote: Good morning all Judging by two recent telephone calls there appears to be some misinformation in gliding circles on the latest Australian Air Force order for new training aircraft. The following is fact – the rest is unsubstantiated rumours: · The Air Force has ordered 11 (eleven) Schleicher ASK 21 Mi for basic training of cadets · All of these gliders are self launchers and come with trailers · The aircraft will be based at four different training centres throughout the country · Deliveries begin in August of 2014 and the contract includes shipping, registration, aircraft inspection, delivery and operator training To ensure that the rumour mill doesn’t spread further let me point out that a previous order for pure sailplanes from dg was not cancelled. Kind regards to all Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours
Why wasn’t I told? From: Future Aviation Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:36 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours Good morning all Judging by two recent telephone calls there appears to be some misinformation in gliding circles on the latest Australian Air Force order for new training aircraft. The following is fact – the rest is unsubstantiated rumours: · The Air Force has ordered 11 (eleven) Schleicher ASK 21 Mi for basic training of cadets · All of these gliders are self launchers and come with trailers · The aircraft will be based at four different training centres throughout the country · Deliveries begin in August of 2014 and the contract includes shipping, registration, aircraft inspection, delivery and operator training To ensure that the rumour mill doesn’t spread further let me point out that a previous order for pure sailplanes from dg was not cancelled. Kind regards to all Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaringattachment: dorrieevans_thumb[1].jpg___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours
Hi Justin Please accept my apology, but in all correspondence relating to this contract there is only a reference to the “Australian Air Force Cadets”. I can’t explain why not a single document was referring to the Royal Australian Air Force. Can you explain that? Kind regards to all Bernard From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Justin Sinclair Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 7:48 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Cc: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] unsubstantiated rumours Bernard, If you are going to be precise about information on this site and others, would you kindly refer to the organisation you and your business is supporting as the Royal Australian Air Force as that. It is not the australian air force, it is the RAAF. Many men and women have died fighting for this country in activities associated with aeroplanes whilst serving in the RAAF, you do them a great disservice by flippantly not getting details correct in correspondence attempting to address rumour and innuendo. Kind regards Justin Justin Sinclair 17 Queen st. Scarborough Qld 4020 Hm 07 3885 8949 Mob 0421 061 811 Email jjsincl...@optusnet.com.au Sent from my iPad On 28 Jan 2014, at 6:36 am, Future Aviation ec...@internode.on.net wrote: Good morning all Judging by two recent telephone calls there appears to be some misinformation in gliding circles on the latest Australian Air Force order for new training aircraft. The following is fact – the rest is unsubstantiated rumours: · The Air Force has ordered 11 (eleven) Schleicher ASK 21 Mi for basic training of cadets · All of these gliders are self launchers and come with trailers · The aircraft will be based at four different training centres throughout the country · Deliveries begin in August of 2014 and the contract includes shipping, registration, aircraft inspection, delivery and operator training To ensure that the rumour mill doesn’t spread further let me point out that a previous order for pure sailplanes from dg was not cancelled. Kind regards to all Bernard ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
