Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD

2011-07-08 Thread Catherine Conway
I wonder where I'd fit all that signage on the back of the Kooka trailer?

-Cath

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Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD

2011-07-08 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell

Just looking at the document.
I reckon you would be safe applying the same rules as for the boats.
My SA legal trailer is stored with Ian Mc Phee at Tyagarah and is now 
illegal to bring over the border to my new Qld home.
There may be a legal loophole in that it is SA registered as with the NSW 
single mirror on M/cycles issue years ago.
I thought all this difference of laws was supposed to be addressed by the 
uniform Aust Road Rules.

Did our peak body GFA have any input?
AFAIK there are differences between SA,Tas  Qld. Any more?
Perhaps the GFA legal officer could give an opinion on trailers travelling 
interstate.




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I wonder where I'd fit all that signage on the back of the Kooka trailer?

-Cath

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Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD

2011-07-08 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
BTW it appears you cannot use the exemptions to tow a glider in a trailer if 
the glider has a motor as it is not defined as a glider  :-(


I was warned before I ... 
:-)



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Just looking at the document.
I reckon you would be safe applying the same rules as for the boats.
My SA legal trailer is stored with Ian Mc Phee at Tyagarah and is now 
illegal to bring over the border to my new Qld home.
There may be a legal loophole in that it is SA registered as with the NSW 
single mirror on M/cycles issue years ago.
I thought all this difference of laws was supposed to be addressed by the 
uniform Aust Road Rules.

Did our peak body GFA have any input?
AFAIK there are differences between SA,Tas  Qld. Any more?
Perhaps the GFA legal officer could give an opinion on trailers travelling 
interstate.




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I wonder where I'd fit all that signage on the back of the Kooka trailer?

-Cath

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Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD

2011-07-08 Thread Mike Borgelt

At 05:41 PM 8/07/2011, you wrote:

Just looking at the document.
I reckon you would be safe applying the same rules as for the boats.
My SA legal trailer is stored with Ian Mc Phee at Tyagarah and is 
now illegal to bring over the border to my new Qld home.
There may be a legal loophole in that it is SA registered as with 
the NSW single mirror on M/cycles issue years ago.
I thought all this difference of laws was supposed to be addressed 
by the uniform Aust Road Rules.

Did our peak body GFA have any input?
AFAIK there are differences between SA,Tas  Qld. Any more?
Perhaps the GFA legal officer could give an opinion on trailers 
travelling interstate.




I just had a quick look at that. I don't think there's anything too 
bad in that. The warning stripes on the back of the trailer are a 
good idea amd I put a third stop light on the traliler at around eye 
height(don't ask).

As for the rest, you're a funny man, Chris.

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Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD

2011-07-08 Thread Catherine Conway
OK so can't tow the kooka trailer or the nimbus trailer to qld.


On 08/07/2011, at 5:21 PM, Christopher Mc Donnell wrote:

 BTW it appears you cannot use the exemptions to tow a glider in a trailer if 
 the glider has a motor as it is not defined as a glider  :-(
 
 I was warned before I ... :-)
 
 
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 wommamuku...@bigpond.com
 To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
 aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD
 
 
 Just looking at the document.
 I reckon you would be safe applying the same rules as for the boats.
 My SA legal trailer is stored with Ian Mc Phee at Tyagarah and is now 
 illegal to bring over the border to my new Qld home.
 There may be a legal loophole in that it is SA registered as with the NSW 
 single mirror on M/cycles issue years ago.
 I thought all this difference of laws was supposed to be addressed by the 
 uniform Aust Road Rules.
 Did our peak body GFA have any input?
 AFAIK there are differences between SA,Tas  Qld. Any more?
 Perhaps the GFA legal officer could give an opinion on trailers travelling 
 interstate.
 
 
 
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 To: AUS Soaring aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD
 
 
 I wonder where I'd fit all that signage on the back of the Kooka trailer?
 
 -Cath
 
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Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD

2011-07-08 Thread Mike Borgelt

At 05:51 PM 8/07/2011, you wrote:
BTW it appears you cannot use the exemptions to tow a glider in a 
trailer if the glider has a motor as it is not defined as a glider  :-(


I was warned before I ... :-)



Clearly then it is an aeroplane trailer and none of these rules 
apply. Ah the pitfalls for the bureaucracy in trying to define everything.


Mike
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Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD

2011-07-08 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
You may also actually need the don't overtake turning vehicle sign in SA 
but it is not in the SA exemption.   Just don't use an extra lane. Its in 
other regs.



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At 05:41 PM 8/07/2011, you wrote:

Just looking at the document.
I reckon you would be safe applying the same rules as for the boats.
My SA legal trailer is stored with Ian Mc Phee at Tyagarah and is now 
illegal to bring over the border to my new Qld home.
There may be a legal loophole in that it is SA registered as with the NSW 
single mirror on M/cycles issue years ago.
I thought all this difference of laws was supposed to be addressed by the 
uniform Aust Road Rules.

Did our peak body GFA have any input?
AFAIK there are differences between SA,Tas  Qld. Any more?
Perhaps the GFA legal officer could give an opinion on trailers travelling 
interstate.




I just had a quick look at that. I don't think there's anything too bad in 
that. The warning stripes on the back of the trailer are a good idea amd I 
put a third stop light on the traliler at around eye height(don't ask).

As for the rest, you're a funny man, Chris.

Mike
Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 
1978

phone Int'l + 61 746 355784
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cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784

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Re: [Aus-soaring] new trailer rules in QLD

2011-07-08 Thread Tim Shirley

Does that make it an aircraft carrier?

Cheers


 /Tim/

/tra dire e fare c'รจ mezzo il mare/


On 8/07/2011 6:05, Mike Borgelt wrote:

At 05:51 PM 8/07/2011, you wrote:
BTW it appears you cannot use the exemptions to tow a glider in a 
trailer if the glider has a motor as it is not defined as a glider  :-(


I was warned before I 
... :-)




Clearly then it is an aeroplane trailer and none of these rules apply. 
Ah the pitfalls for the bureaucracy in trying to define everything.


Mike
Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments 
since 1978

phone Int'l + 61 746 355784
fax   Int'l + 61 746 358796
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