RE: MTOM error java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space

2007-05-23 Thread Betsy Frey
Hi Vikas,
An OutOfMemoryError strongly suggests that cacheAttachments or one of the
other 3 associated properties are not being set properly.  On the client
side, for receiving the file, one can code:
Options options = new Options();
options.setTo(new EndpointReference(url));
options.setProperty(Constants.Configuration.ENABLE_MTOM,
Constants.VALUE_TRUE);
options.setProperty(Constants.Configuration.CACHE_ATTACHMENTS,
Constants.VALUE_TRUE);
options.setProperty(Constants.Configuration.ATTACHMENT_TEMP_DIR,
AXIS2_ATTACHMENT_DIR);
options.setProperty(Constants.Configuration.FILE_SIZE_THRESHOLD,
8000);
One can modify axis2.xml on the server side similarly.
Betsy

-Original Message-
From: Vikas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:18 AM
To: axis user
Subject: Re: MTOM error java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space

Hi Thilina / Friends

  As you said earlier that you have tested Axis2 with 200 MB-700 MB file
attachment, Can you tell me which configuration of axis you did it [means
MTOM / SwA/ StAX / SAAJ versions] ?

Can we do direct streaming using StAX / SAAJ to send such big files?

With best regards
From
Vikas R. Khengare

- Original Message - 
From: Thilina Gunarathne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org; Vikas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: MTOM error java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space


 We have successfully used the MTOM sample to transfer files with sizes
 in the range of 200MB to 700 MB...

   I have enabled FileCaching on server side by following code.
  parameter name=enableMTOM locked=falsetrue/parameter
  parameter name=enableSwA locked=falsetrue/parameter
 
  !--Uncomment if you want to enable file caching for
attachments --
  parameter name=cacheAttachments
locked=falsetrue/parameter
  parameter name=attachmentDIR
  locked=falseC:\\TempWebService\\DestinationTemp/parameter
  parameter name=sizeThreshold locked=false4000/parameter
  At the same time I am continuing with client side file caching code.
 Client side caching is not needed for the MTOM sample...

  It is caching that file in given directory, but not writing on to output
  stream i.e. on specified location.
 Can you explain the above statement a bit more... Can you see the
 whole file on the caching directory... What do you mean by writing to
 the output stream...

 Thanks,
 Thilina

  Now also I am able send 2-3MB size of
  files but not bigger file size like 7MB-100MB. I am getting same error
   [java] Exception in thread main org.apache.axis2.AxisFault:
  java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
   [java] at
 
org.apache.axis2.description.OutInAxisOperationClient.send(OutInAxisOperatio
  n.java:271)
   [java] at
 
org.apache.axis2.description.OutInAxisOperationClient.execute(OutInAxisOpera
  tion.java:202)
   [java] at sample.mtom.service.MTOMSampleStub.attachment(Unknown
  Source)
 
   [java] at sample.mtom.client.Client.transferFile(Unknown
Source)
   [java] at sample.mtom.client.Client.main(Unknown Source)
   [java] Java Result: 1
 
  my questions still unsolved? Can some one suggest solution?
  [Can we send file as attachment of size 5MB - 1GB?]
 
  With best regards
  Vikas R. Khengare
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Jochen Zink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
  Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:51 AM
  Subject: Re: MTOM error java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
 
 
  
   Hi Vikas.
  
   you have to enabled FileCaching on ServerSide. This is the only way to
  handle large attachments int axis2, sadly.
  
  
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Gesendet: 23.05.07 07:23:12
An: axis user axis-user@ws.apache.org
Betreff: MTOM error java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
  
  
Hi friends,
   
   
   
I am running sample application mtom from standard axis2
samples
  [axis2-1.1.1\samples\mtom]. This sample is working for sending
attachment of
  size 2-3 MB, but giving error for more than 3MB size of files.
   
   
   
I want to send file of size 50-100 MB.
   
   
   
error is as follows
   
 [java] Exception in thread main org.apache.axis2.AxisFault:
  java.lang.Out
OfMemoryError: Java heap space
 [java] at
  org.apache.axis2.description.OutInAxisOperationClient.send(Ou
tInAxisOperation.java:271)
 [java] at
  org.apache.axis2.description.OutInAxisOperationClient.execute
(OutInAxisOperation.java:202)
 [java] at
sample.mtom.service.MTOMSampleStub.attachment(Unknown
  Source)
   
   
   
 [java] at sample.mtom.client.Client.transferFile(Unknown
  Source)
 [java] at sample.mtom.client.Client.main(Unknown Source)
 [java] Java Result: 1
   
   
   
I 

RE: MTOM error java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space

2007-05-23 Thread Betsy Frey
There is a known bug with MTOM attachments in Axis 1.1.1, fixed in Axis 1.2.

-Original Message-
From: Jochen Zink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:19 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: MTOM error java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space

Hi Vikas,

okay, I tryed a example with a attachment larger than 50mb. ... I got the
same error. I'm sure that I have enabled FileCaching in the same way as you
did (configured in axis2.xml). I'm pretty sure that this worked for month
ago. The only thing I have changed is to copy newer versions of the axiom
libs. Currently I use axis2 1.1.1 with axiom 1.2.4. 

I tryed the same szenarop with axis2 1.1.1 and axiom 1.2.2 and it does not
work too. I'm not sure what is going wrong...

my axis2.xml (server):
parameter name=enableMTOM locked=falsetrue/parameter
parameter name=enableSwA locked=falsefalse/parameter
 parameter name=cacheAttachments locked=falsetrue/parameter
parameter name=attachmentDIR locked=falseD:\\cache/parameter
parameter name=sizeThreshold locked=false3000/parameter

my services.xml has no parameter which deals with attachments..



Is there any bug known?


Thanks


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: axis-user@ws.apache.org
 Gesendet: 23.05.07 09:22:04
 An: axis-user@ws.apache.org
 Betreff: Re: MTOM error java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space


 
 Hi Jochen  Friends,
 
  I have enabled FileCaching on server side by following code.
 parameter name=enableMTOM locked=falsetrue/parameter
 parameter name=enableSwA locked=falsetrue/parameter
 
 !--Uncomment if you want to enable file caching for attachments
--
 parameter name=cacheAttachments locked=falsetrue/parameter
 parameter name=attachmentDIR
 locked=falseC:\\TempWebService\\DestinationTemp/parameter
 parameter name=sizeThreshold locked=false4000/parameter
 At the same time I am continuing with client side file caching code.
 
 It is caching that file in given directory, but not writing on to output
 stream i.e. on specified location. Now also I am able send 2-3MB size of
 files but not bigger file size like 7MB-100MB. I am getting same error
  [java] Exception in thread main org.apache.axis2.AxisFault:
 java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
  [java] at

org.apache.axis2.description.OutInAxisOperationClient.send(OutInAxisOperatio
 n.java:271)
  [java] at

org.apache.axis2.description.OutInAxisOperationClient.execute(OutInAxisOpera
 tion.java:202)
  [java] at sample.mtom.service.MTOMSampleStub.attachment(Unknown
 Source)
 
  [java] at sample.mtom.client.Client.transferFile(Unknown Source)
  [java] at sample.mtom.client.Client.main(Unknown Source)
  [java] Java Result: 1
 
 my questions still unsolved? Can some one suggest solution?
 [Can we send file as attachment of size 5MB - 1GB?]
 
 With best regards
 Vikas R. Khengare
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jochen Zink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:51 AM
 Subject: Re: MTOM error java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
 
 
 
  Hi Vikas.
 
  you have to enabled FileCaching on ServerSide. This is the only way to
 handle large attachments int axis2, sadly.
 
 
   -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
   Von: axis-user@ws.apache.org
   Gesendet: 23.05.07 07:23:12
   An: axis user axis-user@ws.apache.org
   Betreff: MTOM error java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
 
 
   Hi friends,
  
  
  
   I am running sample application mtom from standard axis2 samples
 [axis2-1.1.1\samples\mtom]. This sample is working for sending attachment
of
 size 2-3 MB, but giving error for more than 3MB size of files.
  
  
  
   I want to send file of size 50-100 MB.
  
  
  
   error is as follows
  
[java] Exception in thread main org.apache.axis2.AxisFault:
 java.lang.Out
   OfMemoryError: Java heap space
[java] at
 org.apache.axis2.description.OutInAxisOperationClient.send(Ou
   tInAxisOperation.java:271)
[java] at
 org.apache.axis2.description.OutInAxisOperationClient.execute
   (OutInAxisOperation.java:202)
[java] at
sample.mtom.service.MTOMSampleStub.attachment(Unknown
 Source)
  
  
  
[java] at sample.mtom.client.Client.transferFile(Unknown
 Source)
[java] at sample.mtom.client.Client.main(Unknown Source)
[java] Java Result: 1
  
  
  
   I have enabled MTOM  filecaching both in the client side, but not
 server side caching means in axis2.xml.
  
   1) Can some one figureout solution?
  
   2) Can we send file as attachment of size 50MB - 1GB?
  
  
  
   With best regards
  
   From
   Vikas R. Khengare
  
 
 
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RE: [Axis2] ConfigurationContext configuration

2007-03-29 Thread Betsy Frey
Michele -
I don't know if this will help, but I modify values in the AxisConfiguration
using code like this:

MessageContext msgContext = MessageContext.getCurrentMessageContext();
AxisConfiguration axisConfig = msgContext.getConfigurationContext()
.getAxisConfiguration();
Parameter param = 
axisConfig.getParameter(Constants.Configuration.CACHE_ATTACHMENTS);
param.setValue(true);

Betsy

-Original Message-
From: Michele Mazzucco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:00 AM
To: axis2
Subject: [Axis2] ConfigurationContext configuration

Hi all,

I've already seen this document [1] and I would like to know if there's
any way to create a ConfigurationContext, without loading it from a
file, with all default parameters apart from the http server port.  

Thanks,
Michele


[1] http://wso2.org/library/585


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RE: [Axis2] ConfigurationContext configuration

2007-03-29 Thread Betsy Frey
Michele,

I use code like this on the client:

Options options = new Options();
options.setProperty(Constants.Configuration.CACHE_ATTACHMENTS,
Constants.VALUE_TRUE);
serviceClient.setOptions(options);

Betsy

-Original Message-
From: Michele Mazzucco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:34 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: RE: [Axis2] ConfigurationContext configuration

Betsy,

thanks. However I would like to change the parameters on the client
side.
Any clue?

Michele

On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 08:13 -0700, Betsy Frey wrote:
 Michele -
 I don't know if this will help, but I modify values in the
AxisConfiguration
 using code like this:
 
 MessageContext msgContext = MessageContext.getCurrentMessageContext();
 AxisConfiguration axisConfig = msgContext.getConfigurationContext()
 .getAxisConfiguration();
 Parameter param = 

axisConfig.getParameter(Constants.Configuration.CACHE_ATTACHMENTS);
 param.setValue(true);
 
 Betsy
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Michele Mazzucco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:00 AM
 To: axis2
 Subject: [Axis2] ConfigurationContext configuration
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've already seen this document [1] and I would like to know if
there's
 any way to create a ConfigurationContext, without loading it from a
 file, with all default parameters apart from the http server port.  
 
 Thanks,
 Michele
 
 
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RE: [AXIS2] MTOM problems

2007-03-28 Thread Betsy Frey
Both problems below seem to be fixed by Axis2-1.2-RC1.
Thilina was right when he guessed I had not replaced all the jars when I
said I had tested with RC1.
Betsy

-Original Message-
From: Thilina Gunarathne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:12 PM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: [AXIS2] MTOM problems

Hi,

 1.  Sometimes 1 extra byte is received.  This is a 255 (0xff).
It would be great if you can isolate the failing scenario and log a
Jira with a test case..

 2.  When I set the client option CACHE_ATTACHMENTS to true, a client-side
 thread loops, appending bytes of 0xff to a .ATT file in the attachments
 directory.
I did some fixes to the Attachment caching after the 1.1 release..
They are available in the latest svn head of Axiom.. And should be
available with the Axis2-1.2-RC1..

Can you please retest the 2 with Axis2-1.2-RC1.. Make sure to replace
each and every jar with the once that came with 1.2-rc1, specially the
Axiom jars..

-- 
Thilina Gunarathne  -  http://www.wso2.com - http://thilinag.blogspot.com

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[AXIS2] MTOM problems

2007-03-27 Thread Betsy Frey
I have some MTOM sample code in which a client sends all files in its
transfer directory to a service.  The server sends the files back to the
client, which stores them in its received directory, and does a
byte-to-byte compare to make sure the files in the two directories match.

1.  Sometimes 1 extra byte is received.  This is a 255 (0xff).

2.  When I set the client option CACHE_ATTACHMENTS to true, a client-side
thread loops, appending bytes of 0xff to a .ATT file in the attachments
directory.

The problems occur in both 1.1.1 and in 1.2 RC1.  My guess is both problems
might have the same cause:  an incorrect cast of an int to a byte, and then
testing for -1 (eof); bytes have value 0 to 255, not -1.

Are these known problems?

Thanks,
Betsy





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RE: [AXIS2] MTOM performance

2007-03-23 Thread Betsy Frey
Thilina - thanks for this information.
Betsy

-Original Message-
From: Thilina Gunarathne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 2:18 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: [AXIS2] MTOM performance

I did a quick test against the snapshots and the results I got were in
the range of ~6.5 MB/s, which translates in to 375 to 400 MB/Min..

My environments is Ubuntu Linux 6.10
java version 1.5.0_10
file system: ext3
Apache Tomcat 5.5.20
FileCacheThreshold 4 bytes

The program I used was the SoapWithAttachments sample of Axis2.

Thanks,
Thilina

On 3/20/07, Betsy Frey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, Thilina.  The latest Axiom jars make a 3x difference. I'm now
 seeing about 10mb/minute.
 Are more optimizations planned?
 Betsy

 -Original Message-
 From: Thilina Gunarathne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 4:16 AM
 To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [AXIS2] MTOM performance

 Betsy,
   copying it.   I continue to see it grow by about 3.7mb/minute.
 I did some testing after the 1.0 release and the numbers I got were
 ~20 mb/min... MAy be something went wrong from 1.0 to 1.1...

 It would be really great if you can let us know the transfer rates you
 got when using the latest axiom jars [1]..

 ~Thilina

ttp://people.apache.org/repository/org.apache.ws.commons.axiom/jars/axio
 m-api-SNAPSHOT.jar

http://people.apache.org/repository/org.apache.ws.commons.axiom/jars/axi
 om-dom-SNAPSHOT.jar

http://people.apache.org/repository/org.apache.ws.commons.axiom/jars/axi
 om-impl-SNAPSHOT.jar


  On 3/19/07, Betsy Frey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Thanks, Rodirigo, but the problem is not my disks.
   I changed the code to generate bytes on the fly, instead of from a
   source file.  I changed the reference from localhost to 127.0.0.1.
 I am
   just looking at the file in the attachment directory; not moving
or
   copying it.   I continue to see it grow by about 3.7mb/minute.
   Separately, I have confirmed that the transfer is in binary in a
 MIME
   section; MTOM is enabled.
   So the question remains:  why is MTOM performance so sluggish, and
 is
   there anything to be done about it?
   Thanks.
   Betsy
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Rodrigo Ruiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:57 AM
   To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
   Subject: Re: [AXIS2] MTOM performance
  
   Several reasons :-)
  
   First, a file system copy can make use of low-level OS mechanisms
to
   speed up transfers, and even in some cases, delegate the job to
the
 disk
   manager chipset. You will never get these speeds with a web
service,
 as
   it will never have direct access to the client file system.
  
   Said this, if you think about what the client and server do,
leaving
   aside the overhead from XML transfer and processing, you will
notice
   that having the client and server on the same machine is not a
good
   testcase.
  
   On one side, the client must read the file from disk. If the
client
 is
   correctly configured and programmed, the client will send the file
   contents to the server at the same time it is reading it
 (concurrently),
   so to avoid putting the whole file in memory.
  
   On the other side, the server will write the incoming bytes to a
 file
   while it is receiving the client request. Finally, once the whole
 file
   is received in the server side, your service will usually move the
 file
   to its final destination. If you copy the file instead of moving
it,
 the
   service will perform even worse ;-)
  
   Now, if you join both sides, you will see the system must read and
 write
   the same file at different locations of the disk. This will make
 your
   test waste a lot of time just in disk head seeks.
  
   I would propose you to make sure that you follow these guides:
  
   * Make sure reads and writes are, at least, from/to different
 (physical)
   disks. If you have only one disk per machine, but you have several
   machines, try to put client and server in different hosts. Take
into
   account that a fast ethernet bandwidth is far better than 3.7MB
per
   minute ;-)
  
   * If you want to do some tests for only one of the sides, another
   approach could be to create mockups for the file readers and
 writers.
   For example, if you use a DataHandler in the client side, you can
   implement a fake DataSource that generates random bytes on the
fly,
   instead of reading them from a file. Such a DataSource will allow
 you to
   test your server side performance without the client interfering
in
 your
   disk accesses.
  
   * Always use the localhost address (127.0.0.1) to contact the
 server. In
   many environments you will get different (and worse) results if
you
 use
   the machine public IP address.
  
   * Make sure you do your best to move the file in the server side
 to
   its final location instead of copying it. The performance is
totally
   different.
  
   Hope this helps you,
   Rodrigo Ruiz

RE: [AXIS2] MTOM performance

2007-03-20 Thread Betsy Frey
Thanks, Thilina.  The latest Axiom jars make a 3x difference. I'm now
seeing about 10mb/minute.  
Are more optimizations planned?
Betsy

-Original Message-
From: Thilina Gunarathne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 4:16 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: [AXIS2] MTOM performance

Betsy,
  copying it.   I continue to see it grow by about 3.7mb/minute.
I did some testing after the 1.0 release and the numbers I got were
~20 mb/min... MAy be something went wrong from 1.0 to 1.1...

It would be really great if you can let us know the transfer rates you
got when using the latest axiom jars [1]..

~Thilina
ttp://people.apache.org/repository/org.apache.ws.commons.axiom/jars/axio
m-api-SNAPSHOT.jar
http://people.apache.org/repository/org.apache.ws.commons.axiom/jars/axi
om-dom-SNAPSHOT.jar
http://people.apache.org/repository/org.apache.ws.commons.axiom/jars/axi
om-impl-SNAPSHOT.jar


 On 3/19/07, Betsy Frey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks, Rodirigo, but the problem is not my disks.
  I changed the code to generate bytes on the fly, instead of from a
  source file.  I changed the reference from localhost to 127.0.0.1.
I am
  just looking at the file in the attachment directory; not moving or
  copying it.   I continue to see it grow by about 3.7mb/minute.
  Separately, I have confirmed that the transfer is in binary in a
MIME
  section; MTOM is enabled.
  So the question remains:  why is MTOM performance so sluggish, and
is
  there anything to be done about it?
  Thanks.
  Betsy
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rodrigo Ruiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:57 AM
  To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
  Subject: Re: [AXIS2] MTOM performance
 
  Several reasons :-)
 
  First, a file system copy can make use of low-level OS mechanisms to
  speed up transfers, and even in some cases, delegate the job to the
disk
  manager chipset. You will never get these speeds with a web service,
as
  it will never have direct access to the client file system.
 
  Said this, if you think about what the client and server do, leaving
  aside the overhead from XML transfer and processing, you will notice
  that having the client and server on the same machine is not a good
  testcase.
 
  On one side, the client must read the file from disk. If the client
is
  correctly configured and programmed, the client will send the file
  contents to the server at the same time it is reading it
(concurrently),
  so to avoid putting the whole file in memory.
 
  On the other side, the server will write the incoming bytes to a
file
  while it is receiving the client request. Finally, once the whole
file
  is received in the server side, your service will usually move the
file
  to its final destination. If you copy the file instead of moving it,
the
  service will perform even worse ;-)
 
  Now, if you join both sides, you will see the system must read and
write
  the same file at different locations of the disk. This will make
your
  test waste a lot of time just in disk head seeks.
 
  I would propose you to make sure that you follow these guides:
 
  * Make sure reads and writes are, at least, from/to different
(physical)
  disks. If you have only one disk per machine, but you have several
  machines, try to put client and server in different hosts. Take into
  account that a fast ethernet bandwidth is far better than 3.7MB per
  minute ;-)
 
  * If you want to do some tests for only one of the sides, another
  approach could be to create mockups for the file readers and
writers.
  For example, if you use a DataHandler in the client side, you can
  implement a fake DataSource that generates random bytes on the fly,
  instead of reading them from a file. Such a DataSource will allow
you to
  test your server side performance without the client interfering in
your
  disk accesses.
 
  * Always use the localhost address (127.0.0.1) to contact the
server. In
  many environments you will get different (and worse) results if you
use
  the machine public IP address.
 
  * Make sure you do your best to move the file in the server side
to
  its final location instead of copying it. The performance is totally
  different.
 
  Hope this helps you,
  Rodrigo Ruiz
 
  Betsy Frey wrote:
   I've just made some measurements, transferring files using MTOM in
  Axis2
   on tomcat.  My client and servlet are on the same machine.
  Attachments
   are cached.  For files of 1mb or more, the transfer rate,
   client-to-servlet, is about 3.7mb per minute.  In contrast, a file
   system copy transfers at about 2.5gb per minute:  675 times faster
  than
   Axis2.
   Why is MTOM performance is so sluggish?
   Thanks for any assistance,
   Betsy
  
  
  
  
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[AXIS2] MTOM performance

2007-03-19 Thread Betsy Frey
I've just made some measurements, transferring files using MTOM in Axis2
on tomcat.  My client and servlet are on the same machine.  Attachments
are cached.  For files of 1mb or more, the transfer rate,
client-to-servlet, is about 3.7mb per minute.  In contrast, a file
system copy transfers at about 2.5gb per minute:  675 times faster than
Axis2.
Why is MTOM performance is so sluggish?
Thanks for any assistance,
Betsy



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RE: [AXIS2] MTOM performance

2007-03-19 Thread Betsy Frey
Thanks, Rodirigo, but the problem is not my disks.
I changed the code to generate bytes on the fly, instead of from a
source file.  I changed the reference from localhost to 127.0.0.1.  I am
just looking at the file in the attachment directory; not moving or
copying it.   I continue to see it grow by about 3.7mb/minute.
Separately, I have confirmed that the transfer is in binary in a MIME
section; MTOM is enabled.
So the question remains:  why is MTOM performance so sluggish, and is
there anything to be done about it?
Thanks.
Betsy

-Original Message-
From: Rodrigo Ruiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:57 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: [AXIS2] MTOM performance

Several reasons :-)

First, a file system copy can make use of low-level OS mechanisms to
speed up transfers, and even in some cases, delegate the job to the disk
manager chipset. You will never get these speeds with a web service, as
it will never have direct access to the client file system.

Said this, if you think about what the client and server do, leaving
aside the overhead from XML transfer and processing, you will notice
that having the client and server on the same machine is not a good
testcase.

On one side, the client must read the file from disk. If the client is
correctly configured and programmed, the client will send the file
contents to the server at the same time it is reading it (concurrently),
so to avoid putting the whole file in memory.

On the other side, the server will write the incoming bytes to a file
while it is receiving the client request. Finally, once the whole file
is received in the server side, your service will usually move the file
to its final destination. If you copy the file instead of moving it, the
service will perform even worse ;-)

Now, if you join both sides, you will see the system must read and write
the same file at different locations of the disk. This will make your
test waste a lot of time just in disk head seeks.

I would propose you to make sure that you follow these guides:

* Make sure reads and writes are, at least, from/to different (physical)
disks. If you have only one disk per machine, but you have several
machines, try to put client and server in different hosts. Take into
account that a fast ethernet bandwidth is far better than 3.7MB per
minute ;-)

* If you want to do some tests for only one of the sides, another
approach could be to create mockups for the file readers and writers.
For example, if you use a DataHandler in the client side, you can
implement a fake DataSource that generates random bytes on the fly,
instead of reading them from a file. Such a DataSource will allow you to
test your server side performance without the client interfering in your
disk accesses.

* Always use the localhost address (127.0.0.1) to contact the server. In
many environments you will get different (and worse) results if you use
the machine public IP address.

* Make sure you do your best to move the file in the server side to
its final location instead of copying it. The performance is totally
different.

Hope this helps you,
Rodrigo Ruiz

Betsy Frey wrote:
 I've just made some measurements, transferring files using MTOM in
Axis2
 on tomcat.  My client and servlet are on the same machine.
Attachments
 are cached.  For files of 1mb or more, the transfer rate,
 client-to-servlet, is about 3.7mb per minute.  In contrast, a file
 system copy transfers at about 2.5gb per minute:  675 times faster
than
 Axis2.
 Why is MTOM performance is so sluggish?
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RE: service request location

2007-03-19 Thread Betsy Frey
In Axis 1.4, you can use code like this:

boolean isClientLocal = true;

MessageContext msgContext =
MessageContext.getCurrentContext();

String remoteIP =
msgContext.getStrProp(org.apache.axis.Constants.MC_REMOTE_ADDR); 

if (!remoteIP.equals(127.0.0.1))

{

InetAddress serverAddress =
InetAddress.getLocalHost();

remoteAddress = InetAddress.getByName(remoteIP);

 

// See if the caller's IP address matches that of
the server.

if (!serverAddress.equals(remoteAddress))

isClientLocal = false;

}

 

 



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Subject: service request location

 

Is there a way to find out where a client is making a request from, ie:
localhost or somewhere else?

 

 

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RE: WS debugging in Eclipse

2006-12-07 Thread Betsy Frey
To use eclipse to debug a tomcat servlet:
1. Be sure that tomcat is started with the below.  One way to do that is to 
edit tomcat/bin/catalina.bat, where JAVA_OPTS is defined.
-Xdebug -Xnoagent  -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,server=y,address=8000,suspend=n
2. Set a breakpoint in the servlet code.  Note that servlet timeouts may start 
to occur when you debug, so you want the breakpoint close to the code being 
debugged.
3. Start the eclipse debugger.  Open Run | Debug...  Select the section for 
remote java application.  Select the project.  Connection type is socket.  
Set host and address (8000 in the above case).
4. Run the test that invokes the server.  The breakpoint should show up in the 
Eclipse debugger.

Betsy

From: VF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 12:24 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: RE: WS debugging in Eclipse

Hi Rajith,
Im using tcp monitor,but sometimes I need to step into code. Now I make it 
so,that i construct skeleton class direct and run my web service as local 
application. But sometimes I need to debbug it on Tomcat as it would run in 
bussiness with all settings. 

 Regards Vladi


From: Rajith Attapattu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:36 PM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: WS debugging in Eclipse

Vladi,

Another more easy option would be for you to deploy your services on axis2  and 
then remote debug using eclipse.
You can also use tcpmon http://ws.apache.org/commons/tcpmon/ to check the SOAP 
messages that are exchanged between the service and the client.

Regards,

Rajith
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Hi all,
Is it possible to debug web services in Eclipse?


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[Axis2] SAX or DOM

2006-10-07 Thread Betsy Frey
In Axis2, is there a way for the server to start receiving a very long
request, before the entire request has been transmitted?  Similarly, is
there a way for the client to start receiving a very long response,
before the entire response has been transmitted?

Perhaps this comes down to asking whether SAX or DOM is used for XML
parsing in Axis2.

Thanks.

Betsy Frey
 

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RE: about Axis2's binary attachment

2006-09-29 Thread Betsy Frey
One does not have to use an ImageDataSource or FileDataSource.  You can code 
your own DataSource, implementing javax.activation.DataSource.  

When receiving MTOM data, one gets a DataHandler from the OMText element, and 
one can get the input stream from that:

  OMText data = (OMText) child.getFirstOMChild();
  DataHandler dh = (DataHandler) data.getDataHandler();
  InputStream istream = dh.getDataSource().getInputStream();

An intermediate file may still be created.  This is because, when transferring 
binary data using MTOM, there is the issue that a very large amount of data 
could cause an OutOfMemoryError, without storing it on disk as it is being 
received.  One controls this by these configuration settings:

  parameter name=cacheAttachments locked=falsetrue/parameter
  parameter name=attachmentDIR locked=falsetemp directory/parameter
  parameter name=sizeThreshold locked=false4000/parameter

Betsy

From: scott ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:53 PM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: about Axis2's binary attachment

Usually we will have an InputStream object. But I didn't make it work. I tried 
using a byte array as input. 
you can easily convert an InputStream to a byte array. After that, use 
ByteArrayDataSource.

    // Build OMText to hold binary data 
    byte[] binaryBytes = ...;
    ByteArrayDataSource dataSource = new 
ByteArrayDataSource(binaryBytes );
    DataHandler expectedDH = new DataHandler(dataSource);
    OMText textData = omFactory.createOMText(expectedDH, true);

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Hi, there,

I have a question about transferring binary attachment through Axis2. I want to 
transfer binary
attachment from server side to client side. My question is that if I can attach 
any kind of binary
data? from Axis2's api, I see there are only two datasource: file and image. 
theoritically, Axis2 
can transfer any kind of object because we can first serialize any object to 
disk, save it as a
file, and then construct file datasource to attach into soap as binary 
attachment. but it will not
be efficient. so my question is that if there is a way to attach the object 
(for example, 
CachedRowSet) to soap directly and return to client, instead of saving as file 
first. if it can,
could anyone give me a java snippet?

thank you very much!
Sam

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RE: Axis using more than 256MB for a 9MB file

2006-09-16 Thread Betsy Frey
Hi Thilina,

Are you using the Axis2 tip?  I ask because when I use MTOM in Axis2 v
1.0, with file caching on, transferring 1gb of data causes my tomcat
5.5.17 server to see: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:  Java heap space.  

Thanks,
Betsy



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To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: Axis using more than 256MB for a 9MB file

Try Axis2 with File Caching Switched On.. We have tested Axis2 with
files ~1GB without much hassel.

IIRC Axis1.x too has the file caching option..

~Thilina

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  Subject: Axis using more than 256MB for a 9MB file
 
  Hello:
 
  I have a web service deployed using Axis 1.4
 
  In that service, I have a method that accepts a
  String containing an XML document.
 
  When I try to upload a 9MB XML file into my service,
  Axis seems to be taking up a HUGE amount of memory.
 
  If I set the JVM to 256MB of heap, it runs out of
  memory and throws an OutOfMemoryException.
 
  If I set the JVM to 512MB of heap, I get the file
  just fine.
 
  The problem occurs *before* my web service method
  is even invoked.
 
  The service is running on Tomcat on Windows.
 
  Any ideas why Axis would consume so much memory?
 
  Thanks,
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RE: Axis using more than 256MB for a 9MB file

2006-09-16 Thread Betsy Frey
Hi Thilina,

I retract my question; sorry for the bother.  My note below was
incorrect; file caching was not on.

I did see a client timeout when transferring 1gb of data using MTOM in
Axis2 v 1.0, but I'm thinking that I need to configure a larger timeout
value.

Betsy



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Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:29 AM
To: 'axis-user@ws.apache.org'
Subject: RE: Axis using more than 256MB for a 9MB file

Hi Thilina,

Are you using the Axis2 tip?  I ask because when I use MTOM in Axis2 v
1.0, with file caching on, transferring 1gb of data causes my tomcat
5.5.17 server to see: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:  Java heap space.  

Thanks,
Betsy



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To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: Axis using more than 256MB for a 9MB file

Try Axis2 with File Caching Switched On.. We have tested Axis2 with
files ~1GB without much hassel.

IIRC Axis1.x too has the file caching option..

~Thilina

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  Subject: Axis using more than 256MB for a 9MB file
 
  Hello:
 
  I have a web service deployed using Axis 1.4
 
  In that service, I have a method that accepts a
  String containing an XML document.
 
  When I try to upload a 9MB XML file into my service,
  Axis seems to be taking up a HUGE amount of memory.
 
  If I set the JVM to 256MB of heap, it runs out of
  memory and throws an OutOfMemoryException.
 
  If I set the JVM to 512MB of heap, I get the file
  just fine.
 
  The problem occurs *before* my web service method
  is even invoked.
 
  The service is running on Tomcat on Windows.
 
  Any ideas why Axis would consume so much memory?
 
  Thanks,
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RE: Is SOAP appropriate for large data transmission

2006-06-22 Thread Betsy Frey
SOAP without an attachment is inappropriate for sending large amounts of binary 
data, because the XML requires it to be converted to Base64, which is 
inefficient.

With an attachment, SOAP over http has the overhead of the protocol, which is 
not as fast as ftp, for instance.

I have used DIME attachments in Axis 1.1.  They worked fine up to some limit, 
2gb or so as I recall; 2 ^ 31 or 32.

Betsy

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Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:51 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Is SOAP appropriate for large data transmission

Hi all,

I usually read in this forum that web services and SOAP are not 
appropriate for large data transmission, but I have never read about any 
good technical reasons behind these sentences.

Most of the issues I have seen in this matter are related to the SOAP 
stack implementation, rather than to SOAP itself:

- Progress bar for file download: You can split the download in smaller 
chunks and transmit them using several calls. It should be possible to 
modify the attachments implementation of SOAP and add the logic for 
asynchronous status notification, so it is technically possible to track 
the progress of attachments download/upload.

- SOAP XML overhead: In fact, the overhead of a SOAP envelope containing 
just a reference to the attachment part is more important for small 
attachments than for large ones. Just one or two kilobytes of XML are 
not too much when you are trying to transfer an 8GB stream.

- Partial/broken transmissions: Again, if the attachments implementation 
is able to track the progress of a download, it may be possible to 
resume it after a transmission error. We would just need to be able to 
specify the range we are interested in, just like with old plain HTML.


Could somebody shed some light on the reasons that make SOAP 
inappropriate for this task?

Regards,
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RE: Is SOAP appropriate for large data transmission

2006-06-22 Thread Betsy Frey
Hi German,

I have not tried sending attachments with Axis2.

Betsy


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From: German Sakaryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:43 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: Is SOAP appropriate for large data transmission

Hi,Betsey
have tried to send large files with axis2 ?

I get fast always broken pipe exception.

German Sakaryan
Betsy Frey schrieb:
 SOAP without an attachment is inappropriate for sending large amounts
of binary data, because the XML requires it to be converted to Base64,
which is inefficient.
 
 With an attachment, SOAP over http has the overhead of the protocol,
which is not as fast as ftp, for instance.
 
 I have used DIME attachments in Axis 1.1.  They worked fine up to some
limit, 2gb or so as I recall; 2 ^ 31 or 32.
 
 Betsy
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rodrigo Ruiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:51 AM
 To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
 Subject: Is SOAP appropriate for large data transmission
 
 Hi all,
 
 I usually read in this forum that web services and SOAP are not 
 appropriate for large data transmission, but I have never read about
any 
 good technical reasons behind these sentences.
 
 Most of the issues I have seen in this matter are related to the SOAP 
 stack implementation, rather than to SOAP itself:
 
 - Progress bar for file download: You can split the download in
smaller 
 chunks and transmit them using several calls. It should be possible to

 modify the attachments implementation of SOAP and add the logic for 
 asynchronous status notification, so it is technically possible to
track 
 the progress of attachments download/upload.
 
 - SOAP XML overhead: In fact, the overhead of a SOAP envelope
containing 
 just a reference to the attachment part is more important for small 
 attachments than for large ones. Just one or two kilobytes of XML are 
 not too much when you are trying to transfer an 8GB stream.
 
 - Partial/broken transmissions: Again, if the attachments
implementation 
 is able to track the progress of a download, it may be possible to 
 resume it after a transmission error. We would just need to be able to

 specify the range we are interested in, just like with old plain HTML.
 
 
 Could somebody shed some light on the reasons that make SOAP 
 inappropriate for this task?
 
 Regards,
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Axis2: can client read from open stream?

2006-06-21 Thread Betsy Frey








Is there a way in which Axis 2 will allow the client to
start receiving the response while the server is still adding children to the
SOAP response?



Thanks you.



Betsy Frey






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