Re: [backstage] The Sky at Night BBC1 vs BBC4 editions

2010-11-10 Thread Ben Weiner
On 10 Nov 2010, at 09:49, Geoff Hogg wrote:
 Or even have an iPlayer channel for programmes that haven't been
 broadcast at all?


+1

[tempted to undermine with a facile suggestion about a channel for programmes 
that do not exist, but I won't do that]

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Re: [backstage] The Sky at Night BBC1 vs BBC4 editions

2010-11-10 Thread Geoff Hogg
From another point of view.

Why not put on iPlayer HD versions of programmes that haven't been
broadcast in HD. Maybe even 1080p?

Or even have an iPlayer channel for programmes that haven't been
broadcast at all?

There does seem to be the issue that iPlayer can only be used to catch
up with broadcast TV, it doesn't need to be tied at all to it.

Providing The Sky At Night is recorded in HD, surely it could be put
on iPlayer as HD even though it hasn't been broadcast.

I had planned to buy a HD pvr, but since my Sony Bluray player can
connect up to the BBC iPlayer I can watch more than enough HD TV
without having to buy another more expensive box.


One request. It would be great if the iPlayer could remember my last
saved position in a feed, I keep having to fast forward to where I
stopped, but it is still early days. How much TV is recorded and
edited in HD. I assume there are limits due to all the capital
investment required.


Geoff


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RE: [backstage] The Sky at Night BBC1 vs BBC4 editions

2010-11-10 Thread Ant Miller
There is content in iPlayer that's never been broadcast or scheduled-
our RD videos for instance.  

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On 10 Nov 2010, at 09:49, Geoff Hogg wrote:
 Or even have an iPlayer channel for programmes that haven't been 
 broadcast at all?


+1

[tempted to undermine with a facile suggestion about a channel for
programmes that do not exist, but I won't do that]

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RE: [backstage] The Sky at Night BBC1 vs BBC4 editions

2010-11-10 Thread Ant Miller
Not really- we use the iplayer backend to provide the embeddable media
player to stick in Movable type.  The UI for the ingest makes clear that
this content is going into iPlayer, and various metadata elements are
assigned so that it is associated as a 'non-scheduled' element.

It's a bit strange tbh, and soetimes we wonder if it wouldn't be easier
to use vimeo or youtube, but the business processes around uploading to
those channels are far more complex and require more sign off, so out of
time constraints I stick with iPlayer embedded media player.  One of
these days I'll get around to wider publication.

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On 10 Nov 2010, at 10:42, Ant Miller wrote:

 There is content in iPlayer that's never been broadcast or scheduled- 
 our RD videos for instance.


And is easy to find?

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[backstage] The Sky at Night BBC1(HD) vs BBC4 editions - the saga

2010-11-10 Thread b...@bt
The Sky at Night is still SD but it's broadcast as upscaled HD on BBC1 HD. 
The quality is slightly better but it would be nice in proper HD.
I'm not too worried about Patrick's wrinkles (see Countryfile/Jay Hunt 
affair).
I just don't see the logic of having two versions of the same programme 
other than keeping an editor and subtitle creator busy - a sort of job 
creation scheme.



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Subject: Re: [backstage] The Sky at Night BBC1 vs BBC4 editions



From another point of view.

Why not put on iPlayer HD versions of programmes that haven't been
broadcast in HD. Maybe even 1080p?

Or even have an iPlayer channel for programmes that haven't been
broadcast at all?

There does seem to be the issue that iPlayer can only be used to catch
up with broadcast TV, it doesn't need to be tied at all to it.

Providing The Sky At Night is recorded in HD, surely it could be put
on iPlayer as HD even though it hasn't been broadcast.

I had planned to buy a HD pvr, but since my Sony Bluray player can
connect up to the BBC iPlayer I can watch more than enough HD TV
without having to buy another more expensive box.


One request. It would be great if the iPlayer could remember my last
saved position in a feed, I keep having to fast forward to where I
stopped, but it is still early days. How much TV is recorded and
edited in HD. I assume there are limits due to all the capital
investment required.


Geoff


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[backstage] George Wright / Twitter Chat / Head of Prototyping / Internet Week

2010-11-10 Thread Jeremy Stone
Sorry to spam list ! Hope this is relevant:

Thought list might be interested to know that tomorrow lunchtime; George 
Wright; the BBC's Head of Prototyping will be answering questions for an hour 
via Twitter about his teams' work building demos, services and prototypes for 
the BBC's Research and Development dept. This is part of a series of events for 
Internet Week Europe and the BBC that i've been helping out with: 
(http://www.internetweekeurope.com/ )

George and his team are of course, no strangers to this list but for a good 
round up of what their work entails then see their now lengthy collection of 
weeknotes : 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researchanddevelopment/prototyping-weeknotes/ or see 
George's bio on the RD site:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/about/george_wright.shtml

Subjects that might come up are up to you but i expect they could include: 
HTML5, P2P Next: http://www.p2p-next.org/ , Radio DNS, their work with 
Autumnwatch/2screen, and Twitter itself : 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researchanddevelopment/2010/07/zeitgeist-the-most-shared-bbc.shtml
 

To take part : then tag your queries #bbciweek or #iweu
BBC prototyping is @bbcprototyping
and George Wright is @georgie on Twitter.
I'm @jemstone
The chat starts at 1pm until 2pm...

thanks
Jem



RE: [backstage] George Wright / Twitter Chat / Head of Prototyping / Internet Week

2010-11-10 Thread Ant Miller
Cool!  Will tweet from @bbcrd.  we're keen for more followers there too!

Ant


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Subject: [backstage] George Wright / Twitter Chat / Head of Prototyping / 
Internet Week

Sorry to spam list ! Hope this is relevant:

Thought list might be interested to know that tomorrow lunchtime; George 
Wright; the BBC's Head of Prototyping will be answering questions for an hour 
via Twitter about his teams' work building demos, services and prototypes for 
the BBC's Research and Development dept. This is part of a series of events for 
Internet Week Europe and the BBC that i've been helping out with: 
(http://www.internetweekeurope.com/ )

George and his team are of course, no strangers to this list but for a good 
round up of what their work entails then see their now lengthy collection of 
weeknotes : 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researchanddevelopment/prototyping-weeknotes/ or see 
George's bio on the RD site:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/about/george_wright.shtml

Subjects that might come up are up to you but i expect they could include: 
HTML5, P2P Next: http://www.p2p-next.org/ , Radio DNS, their work with 
Autumnwatch/2screen, and Twitter itself : 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researchanddevelopment/2010/07/zeitgeist-the-most-shared-bbc.shtml
 

To take part : then tag your queries #bbciweek or #iweu
BBC prototyping is @bbcprototyping
and George Wright is @georgie on Twitter.
I'm @jemstone
The chat starts at 1pm until 2pm...

thanks
Jem


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