Re: [backstage] Can we have a developer mailing list?

2007-08-16 Thread Matthew Cashmore
 
 Forums?... Forums???
 
 Please let this be a typo, don't move to forums, they're horrid and
 yucky and smell and take far too much time to wade through the dross to
 get to anything of interest and people will start tagging each of their
 posts with bl00dy great big images of their PC systems stats or
 some-such nonsensical avatar-like monstrous carbuncle.. Yuck!
 
 Please, stick with mailing lists.

It's okay Sean... Take a breath :-) You'll still be able to interact with
the lists via email and even better via RSS feeds.
 
 
 We don't want to spread the list topics too far but yes one mailing
 list is becoming troublesome with the diversity of discussions.
 
 Agreed, a specifically developer focused list one would be spiffing.
 
We've got a new list called backstage-developer which will be heading your
way very soon (as soon as I can kick majordomo into playing ball).
 
matthew

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Re: [backstage] Can we have a developer mailing list?

2007-07-30 Thread James Cridland
On 7/29/07, Adam Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there any chance of a separate developer list for discussion of APIs,
 services, Geek events, etc.

 The BBC with the encouragement from Ian  Matthew are providing some
 great sources of information for doing mashups and organising some great
 events like Hackday, but this mailing list is just becoming a BBC
 Bashing list.


Good plan!

Might I recommend (having run many a mailing list in my time) that we, the
users of this list, do not accept wildly off-topic conversation and mail
people, off list, to enforce this?

//j


RE: [backstage] Can we have a developer mailing list?

2007-07-30 Thread Barry Carlyon
I think we should get the developer mailing list, and a forum as someone
else suggested as sometimes it can be easy to lose ones place in each thread
running concurrently.

Maybe we should take the mailing list archive and convert it into such a
forum? So that when someone replies it gets added to the thread, or someone
replies to the forum thread the mailing list sends it out also?

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Subject: Re: [backstage] Can we have a developer mailing list?

James,

I would prefer 2 lists as the junk one gives one an insight into  
broader concerns.
it also provides a buffer between newbies and developers, else

cheers

Jonathan Chetwynd
Accessibility Consultant on Learning Disabilities and the Internet

29 Crimsworth Road
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On 30 Jul 2007, at 10:36, James Cridland wrote:

On 7/29/07, Adam Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any  
chance of a separate developer list for discussion of APIs,
services, Geek events, etc.

The BBC with the encouragement from Ian  Matthew are providing some
great sources of information for doing mashups and organising some great
events like Hackday, but this mailing list is just becoming a BBC
Bashing list.

Good plan!

Might I recommend (having run many a mailing list in my time) that  
we, the users of this list, do not accept wildly off-topic  
conversation and mail people, off list, to enforce this?

//j

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Re: [backstage] Can we have a developer mailing list?

2007-07-30 Thread Mr I Forrester

James Cridland wrote:
On 7/29/07, *Adam Leach* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Is there any chance of a separate developer list for discussion of
APIs,
services, Geek events, etc.

The BBC with the encouragement from Ian  Matthew are providing some
great sources of information for doing mashups and organising some
great
events like Hackday, but this mailing list is just becoming a BBC
Bashing list.

 
Good plan!
 
Might I recommend (having run many a mailing list in my time) that we, 
the users of this list, do not accept wildly off-topic conversation 
and mail people, off list, to enforce this?
 
//j

So I know we talked about this before.

One of the site changes will be multiple forums. We don't want to spread 
the list topics too far but yes one mailing list is becoming troublesome 
with the diversity of discussions.


Were happy to accept slightly off topic discussions and we can live with 
a certain amount of constructive bashing. I know you all take part 
because deep down you all care about the BBC and just want to see it do 
the right things.


I know this isn't a conclusive answer but we're working on it.

Cheers

Ian
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RE: [backstage] Can we have a developer mailing list?

2007-07-30 Thread Jeremy Stone
 , but this mailing list is just becoming a BBC
 Bashing list.


From time to time there has been (mostly around iPlayer) some strong
criticism of how the BBC develops products. That's good.
When Tom L once kicked off this list, in his first post/introduction he
said that the Noise *is* the signal. So I'm happy to hear. In fact I'm
keen to hear how criticism of how we do stuff. 

If that includes the iplayer roadmap, the OSC, our use of Firefox,  time
expiry DRM then so be it. If that means having to talk about or explain
what we do ...again. Then that's what we're here for. 

I think James is right that we collectively should steer the list in the
right direction from time to time (good tips sir!) but as for BBC
Bashing. If its about how we develop our stuff then good. Happy to hear
it.

Now where was that explanation about the licencing of Fairplay again ;)

Thanks.
Jem

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