Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup strategy for rarely-connected clients

[gecon]

You could try make your wakeup schedule more dense and for this laptop
remove all blackout periods.

Like consider waking up every 15 minutes for the hours that the laptop is
most probable to appear.




On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 at 22:58, Kenneth Porter  wrote:

> My company has a laptop that spends most of its time on a shelf, not in
> use. So I'm constantly seeing a daily BackupPC alert in my email that
> the machine hasn't been backed up recently.
>
> How do others deal with this situation, with machines that are rarely
> connected to the LAN for backup?
>
> An additional problem is that the machine might only be connected for a
> short period, so the server might miss that window and fail to back it
> in the short period it's connected, as it's busy with other backups.
>
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup strategy for rarely-connected clients

[Kenneth Porter]

--On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 3:47 PM -0600 Les Mikesell 
 wrote:



I think the perfect world example would be if there was a client you
could run so the computer could inform the server when it's up, perhaps
via a REST interface.



Why can't the user log into the web interface and start the backup at
appropriate times?   And if the admin gets the email that it hasn't
been backed up, he can call the guy up and remind him...


Both sound good. Or a hybrid, a "Back me up!" button on the desktop that 
signals the server when the user is done doing whatever critical thing 
warranted turning the machine on and it's available for routine 
maintenance. Such a button could also do OS updates and shut down the 
machine when done. (Or restart if updates pending, so they won't hold up 
the user the next time the machine is needed for some critical task.)


I could also get them to leave the machine plugged into the network and set 
up a timed startup, if the BIOS has that feature. Or wake-on-LAN. (ISTR 
someone posting WOL scripts to the mailing list to wake a machine up before 
a backup.)





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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup strategy for rarely-connected clients

[Greg Harris]

Honestly, why back it up at all?  Nothing changed.  If it’s off the shelf for 
that short of time, it’s not got anything on it that’s not somewhere else.  
Now, the update argument is real.

Thanks,

Greg Harris

On Jan 31, 2023, at 4:47 PM, Les Mikesell 
mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 3:36 PM Richard Shaw 
mailto:hobbes1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

An additional problem is that the machine might only be connected for a
short period, so the server might miss that window and fail to back it
in the short period it's connected, as it's busy with other backups.


I think the perfect world example would be if there was a client you could run 
so the computer could inform the server when it's up, perhaps via a REST 
interface.


Why can't the user log into the web interface and start the backup at
appropriate times?   And if the admin gets the email that it hasn't
been backed up, he can call the guy up and remind him...

--
  Les Mikesell
lesmikes...@gmail.com


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup strategy for rarely-connected clients

[Les Mikesell]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 3:36 PM Richard Shaw  wrote:
>
>> An additional problem is that the machine might only be connected for a
>> short period, so the server might miss that window and fail to back it
>> in the short period it's connected, as it's busy with other backups.
>
>
> I think the perfect world example would be if there was a client you could 
> run so the computer could inform the server when it's up, perhaps via a REST 
> interface.
>

Why can't the user log into the web interface and start the backup at
appropriate times?   And if the admin gets the email that it hasn't
been backed up, he can call the guy up and remind him...

-- 
   Les Mikesell
 lesmikes...@gmail.com


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup strategy for rarely-connected clients

[Richard Shaw]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 2:58 PM Kenneth Porter 
wrote:

> My company has a laptop that spends most of its time on a shelf, not in
> use. So I'm constantly seeing a daily BackupPC alert in my email that
> the machine hasn't been backed up recently.
>
> How do others deal with this situation, with machines that are rarely
> connected to the LAN for backup?
>
> An additional problem is that the machine might only be connected for a
> short period, so the server might miss that window and fail to back it
> in the short period it's connected, as it's busy with other backups.
>

I think the perfect world example would be if there was a client you could
run so the computer could inform the server when it's up, perhaps via a
REST interface.

Anyone want to volunteer to write the client and interface? :)

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup strategy for rarely-connected clients

[Greg Harris]

It’s a canary. The day it’s not in your email is the day you start to sweat 
about Backuppc. 

Thanks,

Greg Harris

> On Jan 31, 2023, at 3:55 PM, Kenneth Porter  wrote:
> 
> My company has a laptop that spends most of its time on a shelf, not in use. 
> So I'm constantly seeing a daily BackupPC alert in my email that the machine 
> hasn't been backed up recently.
> 
> How do others deal with this situation, with machines that are rarely 
> connected to the LAN for backup?
> 
> An additional problem is that the machine might only be connected for a short 
> period, so the server might miss that window and fail to back it in the short 
> period it's connected, as it's busy with other backups.
> 
> 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup strategy for rarely-connected clients

[Robert Trevellyan]

Could it be someone's responsibility to fire the machine up at a specific
time on a specific day each week, for at least a couple of hours? The thing
is, a rarely-on machine presents other challenges, not least of which is
the difficulty of keeping the OS and apps updated. Making sure those things
are done would also provide an opportunity for backuppc to do its work.

Robert Trevellyan


On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 3:58 PM Kenneth Porter 
wrote:

> My company has a laptop that spends most of its time on a shelf, not in
> use. So I'm constantly seeing a daily BackupPC alert in my email that
> the machine hasn't been backed up recently.
>
> How do others deal with this situation, with machines that are rarely
> connected to the LAN for backup?
>
> An additional problem is that the machine might only be connected for a
> short period, so the server might miss that window and fail to back it
> in the short period it's connected, as it's busy with other backups.
>
>
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[BackupPC-users] Backup strategy for rarely-connected clients

[Kenneth Porter]

My company has a laptop that spends most of its time on a shelf, not in 
use. So I'm constantly seeing a daily BackupPC alert in my email that 
the machine hasn't been backed up recently.


How do others deal with this situation, with machines that are rarely 
connected to the LAN for backup?


An additional problem is that the machine might only be connected for a 
short period, so the server might miss that window and fail to back it 
in the short period it's connected, as it's busy with other backups.



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