Re: [BackupPC-users] Lost config.pl file during full backup

2021-08-01 Thread Kenneth Porter
I highly recommend installing etckeeper. It puts all of /etc under 
revision control. I use CentOS which is based on yum/dnf/rpm and it will 
perform an auto-commit of changed files before updating. I disable that 
feature so that yum won't update until I manually commit any outstanding 
configuration changes, to make sure they get a proper change comment. 
etckeeper uses git by default but you can use another revision control 
system if you prefer. A minimal knowledge of git is handy for doing 
manual commits and inspecting your change history.


Your distribution should include an etckeeper package.

https://www.tecmint.com/manage-etc-with-version-control-using-etckeeper/




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Re: [BackupPC-users] Lost config.pl file during full backup

2021-08-01 Thread backuppc


Your warning is vague and completely unhelpful...

Assuming you are using a well-maintained distro and a supported
backuppc set of packages, it is extremely unlikely that running system
updates and backuppc simultaneously would cause any problems.

Since you didn't mention the distro or the maintainer of your backuppc
packages, let alone the versions of each or let alone which specific
updates were run and whether the problem is reproducible, your advice
is vague to the point of irrelevancy...


oetschi.ex...@bluewin.ch wrote at about 16:27:51 +0200 on Sunday, August 1, 
2021:
 > Hello backuppc,
 > This is a message to warn all users:
 > During a full backup of all my clients the backuppc task went crazy and I 
 > could read in the log file that backuppc wanted to start a backup every 
 > minute until I stopped the task. After that backuppc did not start anymore. 
 > After some days troubleshooting and an advice from google I checked all 
 > client config.pl for correct permissions. I saw that there was only a 
 > config.pl.old file with the creation date of that last full backup but there 
 > was no config.pl file anymore. I copied back the config.pl.old file to 
 > config.pl. and to my astonishment backuppc is running again. Somehow during 
 > that "fatal" full backup the system installed some updates. So it could be 
 > that system update and full backup don't like each other and do things they 
 > shouldn't. 
 > So backuppc users please do not make (full-) backups and system updates 
 > together. You could lose some time in investigating and not be able to use 
 > backuppc.
 > Kind regards
 > Chris Koenig
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Lost config.pl file during full backup

2021-08-01 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 9:30 AM oetschi.ex...@bluewin.ch
 wrote:
>
>
> So backuppc users please do not make (full-) backups and system updates 
> together. You could lose some time in investigating and not be able to use 
> backuppc.
>

This report might be more useful if you mentioned 'which' system you
are talking about.  I'd guess it was some linux distribution, but
their packaging and updates work differently.

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[BackupPC-users] Lost config.pl file during full backup

2021-08-01 Thread oetschi.ex...@bluewin.ch
Hello backuppc,
This is a message to warn all users:
During a full backup of all my clients the backuppc task went crazy and I could 
read in the log file that backuppc wanted to start a backup every minute until 
I stopped the task. After that backuppc did not start anymore. After some days 
troubleshooting and an advice from google I checked all client config.pl for 
correct permissions. I saw that there was only a config.pl.old file with the 
creation date of that last full backup but there was no config.pl file anymore. 
I copied back the config.pl.old file to config.pl. and to my astonishment 
backuppc is running again. Somehow during that "fatal" full backup the system 
installed some updates. So it could be that system update and full backup don't 
like each other and do things they shouldn't. 
So backuppc users please do not make (full-) backups and system updates 
together. You could lose some time in investigating and not be able to use 
backuppc.
Kind regards
Chris Koenig
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