[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Amant unique?
sans chanterelle, but can't think of any other piece that dispenses with the second course as well. The las piece in Reusner's Erfreuliche Lauten -Lust (1667) is a Courante sine quintâ, quartâ et tertiâ Quinta is the highest string, if I remenber it correctly, as in German Quintsait or so... So there you have a piece without the top 3 ch. best wishes Bernd To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Amant unique?
Hi Chris, in ms. Barbe La Grenoüillere de Gallot, p. 38, and Rossignol du V.Gautier, p. 63. I think I've seen others, too. I'll tell, when I find them again. Arto On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:05:11 -0800 (PST), Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, I've been playing through some pieces by Gallot lately and noticed that his famous L'Amant Malheuruex allemande intentionally does not use either of the top two courses. I know of lots of pieces sans chanterelle, but can't think of any other piece that dispenses with the second course as well. Has anyone else run across anything? Maybe even an anonymous piece? Chris Christopher Wilke Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Amant unique?
Bernd is correct. This piece is published in das Erbe Deutscher Musik, volume 2. It goes up to the 9th fret on 4th string for the high note and features a fingered 3 note chord with the highest note on the 6th string. Low-down sound. Dale - Original Message - From: Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de To: baroque Lutelist baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com Cc: lute list l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:47 AM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Amant unique? sans chanterelle, but can't think of any other piece that dispenses with the second course as well. The las piece in Reusner's Erfreuliche Lauten -Lust (1667) is a Courante sine quintâ, quartâ et tertiâ Quinta is the highest string, if I remenber it correctly, as in German Quintsait or so... So there you have a piece without the top 3 ch. best wishes Bernd To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3393 - Release Date: 01/20/11
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Amant unique?
Dear Chris, There are the following wonderful pieces without BOTH top strings in MS Saizenay (pp. 115-6): Allemande sans chanterelle ni seconde Courante sans chanterelle ni seconde There is also a lovely Chaconne sans chantrelle on p. 120 Oh yes, and L'Adieu by Gaultier, off the top of my head. It goes without saying that this repertoire works perfectly on a d-minor theorbo Best, Benjamin On 21 January 2011 18:14, wikla [1]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote: Hi Chris, in ms. Barbe La Grenoueillere de Gallot, p. 38, and Rossignol du V.Gautier, p. 63. I think I've seen others, too. I'll tell, when I find them again. Arto On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:05:11 -0800 (PST), Christopher Wilke [2]chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, I've been playing through some pieces by Gallot lately and noticed that his famous L'Amant Malheuruex allemande intentionally does not use either of the top two courses. I know of lots of pieces sans chanterelle, but can't think of any other piece that dispenses with the second course as well. Has anyone else run across anything? Maybe even an anonymous piece? Chris Christopher Wilke Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer [3]www.christopherwilke.com To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Dr Benjamin A. Narvey Institute of Musical Research School of Advanced Study University of London t +33 (0) 1 44 27 03 44 p/m +33 (0) 6 71 79 98 98 Site web/Website: [5]www.luthiste.com -- References 1. mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi 2. mailto:chriswi...@yahoo.com 3. http://www.christopherwilke.com/ 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. http://www.luthiste.com/
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Amant unique?
Bernd, Thanks for pointing it out. Quite right. I knew of the Reusner piece but had forgotten about it. More likely my brain just didn't make the association since R pulled a one-up to the double sans idea. Chris Christopher Wilke Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de wrote: From: Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Amant unique? To: baroque Lutelist baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com Cc: lute list l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 11:47 AM sans chanterelle, but can't think of any other piece that dispenses with the second course as well. The las piece in Reusner's Erfreuliche Lauten -Lust (1667) is a Courante sine quintâ, quartâ et tertiâ Quinta is the highest string, if I remenber it correctly, as in German Quintsait or so... So there you have a piece without the top 3 ch. best wishes Bernd To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: L'Amant unique?
Benjamin, --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Benjamin Narvey luthi...@gmail.com wrote: There are the following wonderful pieces without BOTH top strings in MS Saizenay (pp. 115-6): Allemande sans chanterelle ni seconde Courante sans chanterelle ni seconde Wow, right under my nose! I was playing the Gallot allemande from the Saizenay version(s) (it appears twice). It goes without saying that this repertoire works perfectly on a d-minor theorbo Undoubtedly the instrument for which these pieces were intended. ;-) Thanks, Chris Best, Benjamin On 21 January 2011 18:14, wikla [1]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote: Hi Chris, in ms. Barbe La Grenoueillere de Gallot, p. 38, and Rossignol du V.Gautier, p. 63. I think I've seen others, too. I'll tell, when I find them again. Arto On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:05:11 -0800 (PST), Christopher Wilke [2]chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, I've been playing through some pieces by Gallot lately and noticed that his famous L'Amant Malheuruex allemande intentionally does not use either of the top two courses. I know of lots of pieces sans chanterelle, but can't think of any other piece that dispenses with the second course as well. Has anyone else run across anything? Maybe even an anonymous piece? Chris Christopher Wilke Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer [3]www.christopherwilke.com To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Dr Benjamin A. Narvey Institute of Musical Research School of Advanced Study University of London t +33 (0) 1 44 27 03 44 p/m +33 (0) 6 71 79 98 98 Site web/Website: [5]www.luthiste.com -- References 1. mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi 2. mailto:chriswi...@yahoo.com 3. http://www.christopherwilke.com/ 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. http://www.luthiste.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
