Re: bbdb-notice-hook-pending

2014-04-29 Thread Sam Steingold
 * Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2014-04-28 20:36:29 -0500]:

 The more I think about it the more I am convinced that there is no
 reason bbdb-notice-mail-hook and bbdb-notice-record-hook should
 treat bbdb-change-hook specially (by suppressing calls of
 bbdb-change-hook).

does this imply that whenever I read a message from a known sender the
sender's record's timestamp will be updated?

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Re: bbdb-notice-hook-pending

2014-04-29 Thread Roland Winkler
On Tue Apr 29 2014 Sam Steingold wrote:
 does this imply that whenever I read a message from a known sender
 the sender's record's timestamp will be updated?

If you have set up one of the notice hooks to modify the record
whenever you read a message from a known sender, then yes, this will
update the timestamp.  I do not see a reason why modifying a record
via a notice hook should be treated differently form any other
modification of a record.

I you do not modify the record via the notice hook, the time stamp
will not be touched either.

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Re: bbdb-notice-hook-pending

2014-04-29 Thread Roland Winkler
On Tue Apr 29 2014 Aric Gregson wrote:
 What is the setting to shut this off? I continue to have odd errors with
 the bbdb file and would prefer it not be touched if not necessary.

What is your problem? - Here we are talking about situations where a
user has customized bbdb-notice-mail-hook and/or bbdb-notice-record-hook.
If for you these hooks are bound to nil (their default) the current
discussion should be irrelevant for you.

More generally, by default BBDB should never modify your bbdb-file
when reading mail.  If this happens to you nonetheless, this is
rather strange.

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Re: bbdb-notice-hook-pending

2014-04-29 Thread Aric Gregson
Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org writes:

 What is your problem? - Here we are talking about situations where a
 user has customized bbdb-notice-mail-hook and/or bbdb-notice-record-hook.
 If for you these hooks are bound to nil (their default) the current
 discussion should be irrelevant for you.

Perfect. Thanks.

 More generally, by default BBDB should never modify your bbdb-file
 when reading mail.

I sporadically get errors that certain records are presenting problems
and then they will go away. Just thought maybe that preventing writing
when not necessary would help. 

No intention to offend you. The fact is there is so little proper
documentation with version 3 that I thought seeking clarification would
be appropriate. Apologies.

aric

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Re: bbdb-notice-hook-pending

2014-04-29 Thread Roland Winkler
On Tue Apr 29 2014 Aric Gregson wrote:
 I sporadically get errors that certain records are presenting problems
 and then they will go away. Just thought maybe that preventing writing
 when not necessary would help. 

Whatever your problem is, it would be best if you could post here a
reproducible recipe for it.

 No intention to offend you. 

No worries.

 The fact is there is so little proper documentation with version 3
 that I thought seeking clarification would be appropriate.

...unfortunately a known problem

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Re: bbdb-notice-hook-pending

2014-04-29 Thread Aric Gregson
Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org writes:

 If you have set up one of the notice hooks to modify the record
 whenever you read a message from a known sender, then yes, this will
 update the timestamp.

What is the setting to shut this off? I continue to have odd errors with
the bbdb file and would prefer it not be touched if not necessary.

Thanks, Aric

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Problems Generating bbdb-loaddefs.el

2014-04-29 Thread Charles Philip Chan
Hello:

For the past little while I have been having problems generating
bbdb-loaddefs.el. The error that I have been getting is:

,
| emacs -batch -l autoload \
| --eval '(setq generated-autoload-file 
'/usr/src/third_party_trees/current/emacs/bbdb/lisp/bbdb-loaddefs.el')' \
| --eval '(setq make-backup-files nil)' \
| -f batch-update-autoloads .
| Invalid read syntax: #
| make[2]: *** [bbdb-loaddefs.el] Error 255
`

What could be the problem. My Emacs version is 24.4.50.1.

Thanks,
Charles

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