Re: %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries)
Steven Arntson writes: > Glyn Millington writes: > >> Steven Arntson writes: >> >>> My previous issues with BBDB suddenly not working are resolved, thanks >>> to this list! And I'm now persevering into the world of linking my BBDB >>> anniversaries fields with my org-agenda. >>> >>> I've got a diary.org file set up, which I added to my agenda files. I >>> added the following lines to diary.org: >>> >>> * Anniversaries >>> #+CATEGORY: Anniv >>> %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) >>> >>> However, when I try to bring up my org-agenda now (M-x org-agenda >>> a), the message I receive is: >>> >>> Bad sexp at line 13 in /home/steven/diary.org: (org-bbdb-anniversaries) >>> >>> Line #13 is the final line in the excerpt above. Does anyone know why >>> I'm getting this error? >> >> Ok - here's an even wilder guess than last time! >> >> I read this in org-bbdb.el >> >> , >> | ;; It also implements an interface (based on Ivar Rummelhoff's >> | ;; bbdb-anniv.el) for those org-mode users, who do not use the diary >> | ;; but who do want to include the anniversaries stored in the BBDB >> | ;; into the org-agenda. If you already include the `diary' into the >> | ;; agenda, you might want to prefer to include the anniversaries in >> | ;; the diary using bbdb-anniv.el. >> ` >> >> ie there are two possible ways of doing this depending on whether you >> use the emacs >> diary/calendar system or not. >> >> And I noticed that in the slice of your config you posted in your last >> query that you have a call to bbdb-anniv. >> >> And I wonder if the two ways clash if you use 'em together! Haven't got >> time or talent to probe this properly. >> >> You could try commenting out the bbdb-anniv stuff and see that works. >> >> You could try commenting out %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) and see if that >> works. I'm betting it will :-) >> >> atb >> >> Glyn >> >> >> > Glyn, > > You are batting 1000! That was exactly the problem. I commented out the > line from my diary.org file, and it now works perfectly. Splendid! > > It's an odd thing about emacs that I search around and encounter > different ideas, which I cobble together. Sometimes my still-developing > emacs literacy level is insufficient to perceive that I'm combining > different approaches. Part of me wishes the process were more > straightforward, but I've also learned a lot by futzing around that I > wouldn't have otherwise. I think it's a net gain. As a fellow futzer I can only agree! atb Glyn -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries)
Glyn Millington writes: > Steven Arntson writes: > >> My previous issues with BBDB suddenly not working are resolved, thanks >> to this list! And I'm now persevering into the world of linking my BBDB >> anniversaries fields with my org-agenda. >> >> I've got a diary.org file set up, which I added to my agenda files. I >> added the following lines to diary.org: >> >> * Anniversaries >> #+CATEGORY: Anniv >> %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) >> >> However, when I try to bring up my org-agenda now (M-x org-agenda >> a), the message I receive is: >> >> Bad sexp at line 13 in /home/steven/diary.org: (org-bbdb-anniversaries) >> >> Line #13 is the final line in the excerpt above. Does anyone know why >> I'm getting this error? > > Ok - here's an even wilder guess than last time! > > I read this in org-bbdb.el > > , > | ;; It also implements an interface (based on Ivar Rummelhoff's > | ;; bbdb-anniv.el) for those org-mode users, who do not use the diary > | ;; but who do want to include the anniversaries stored in the BBDB > | ;; into the org-agenda. If you already include the `diary' into the > | ;; agenda, you might want to prefer to include the anniversaries in > | ;; the diary using bbdb-anniv.el. > ` > > ie there are two possible ways of doing this depending on whether you > use the emacs > diary/calendar system or not. > > And I noticed that in the slice of your config you posted in your last > query that you have a call to bbdb-anniv. > > And I wonder if the two ways clash if you use 'em together! Haven't got > time or talent to probe this properly. > > You could try commenting out the bbdb-anniv stuff and see that works. > > You could try commenting out %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) and see if that > works. I'm betting it will :-) > > atb > > Glyn > > > Glyn, You are batting 1000! That was exactly the problem. I commented out the line from my diary.org file, and it now works perfectly. It's an odd thing about emacs that I search around and encounter different ideas, which I cobble together. Sometimes my still-developing emacs literacy level is insufficient to perceive that I'm combining different approaches. Part of me wishes the process were more straightforward, but I've also learned a lot by futzing around that I wouldn't have otherwise. I think it's a net gain. Thanks again, and I look forward to trying to stump you in the future ... ! -steven -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries)
Steven Arntson writes: > My previous issues with BBDB suddenly not working are resolved, thanks > to this list! And I'm now persevering into the world of linking my BBDB > anniversaries fields with my org-agenda. > > I've got a diary.org file set up, which I added to my agenda files. I > added the following lines to diary.org: > > * Anniversaries > #+CATEGORY: Anniv > %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) > > However, when I try to bring up my org-agenda now (M-x org-agenda a), the > message I receive is: > > Bad sexp at line 13 in /home/steven/diary.org: (org-bbdb-anniversaries) > > Line #13 is the final line in the excerpt above. Does anyone know why > I'm getting this error? Ok - here's an even wilder guess than last time! I read this in org-bbdb.el , | ;; It also implements an interface (based on Ivar Rummelhoff's | ;; bbdb-anniv.el) for those org-mode users, who do not use the diary | ;; but who do want to include the anniversaries stored in the BBDB | ;; into the org-agenda. If you already include the `diary' into the | ;; agenda, you might want to prefer to include the anniversaries in | ;; the diary using bbdb-anniv.el. ` ie there are two possible ways of doing this depending on whether you use the emacs diary/calendar system or not. And I noticed that in the slice of your config you posted in your last query that you have a call to bbdb-anniv. And I wonder if the two ways clash if you use 'em together! Haven't got time or talent to probe this properly. You could try commenting out the bbdb-anniv stuff and see that works. You could try commenting out %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) and see if that works. I'm betting it will :-) atb Glyn -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries)
Steven Arntson writes: > My previous issues with BBDB suddenly not working are resolved, thanks > to this list! And I'm now persevering into the world of linking my BBDB > anniversaries fields with my org-agenda. > > I've got a diary.org file set up, which I added to my agenda files. I > added the following lines to diary.org: > > * Anniversaries > > #+CATEGORY: Anniv > %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) > > However, when I try to bring up my org-agenda now (M-x org-agenda a), the > message I receive is: > > Bad sexp at line 13 in /home/steven/diary.org: (org-bbdb-anniversaries) > > Line #13 is the final line in the excerpt above. Does anyone know why > I'm getting this error? > > Thank you! > Steven Arntson There might be more than one way to address this, but what I do is give my BBDB contacts an "anniversary" field, like: anniversary: 1948-03-08 birthday Then in my Org setup: (setq org-agenda-include-diary t) And in my BBDB setup: (require 'bbdb-anniv) (add-hook 'diary-list-entries-hook 'bbdb-anniv-diary-entries) Am I missing anything? I think that's all the relevant stuff. I like this because the anniversaries are on the contacts themselves, where (I feel) they belong, and I don't need a diary.org file. They just show up in the agenda where they're supposed to. Hope that works! Eric -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
%%(org-bbdb-anniversaries)
My previous issues with BBDB suddenly not working are resolved, thanks to this list! And I'm now persevering into the world of linking my BBDB anniversaries fields with my org-agenda. I've got a diary.org file set up, which I added to my agenda files. I added the following lines to diary.org: * Anniversaries #+CATEGORY: Anniv %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) However, when I try to bring up my org-agenda now (M-x org-agenda a), the message I receive is: Bad sexp at line 13 in /home/steven/diary.org: (org-bbdb-anniversaries) Line #13 is the final line in the excerpt above. Does anyone know why I'm getting this error? Thank you! Steven Arntson -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: org-bbdb-anniversaries gives error 'bad sexp'
thanks, got it working now (with some fiddling). looks like `calendar-date-style' is not honored /at all/, if you don't use -MM-DD format (as stated in the org-bbdb.el header, admittedly), it just blows up in your face :) -- Philipp Haselwarter -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: org-bbdb-anniversaries gives error 'bad sexp'
Philipp Haselwarter writes: > On 2011-05-16 14:08 UT, Matt Lundin wrote: > > ML> I have anniversaries working in my own setup, so between the two > ML> sets of modifications, I should be able to provide a full set of > ML> fixes.More soon... > > Would you mind sharing the working bits of your setup? > I just tried %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) and got a > Bad sexp at line […] > > thanks for the effort! Certainly. These are the temporary workarounds I'm using to get org-bbdb to work with the new bbdb: --8<---cut here---start->8--- (defalias 'bbdb-company 'bbdb-search-organization) (defalias 'bbdb-name 'bbdb-search-name) (defun bbdb-record-getprop (record label) (and (eq label 'company) (setq label 'organization)) (if (memq label '(name degree organization address phone mail aka)) (funcall (intern (concat "bbdb-record-" (symbol-name label))) record) (bbdb-record-note record label))) (defadvice bbdb-split (around my-bbdb-split activate) (when (or (string= string "\n") (string= string "-")) (let ((sep string)) (setq string separator separator sep) ad-do-it))) --8<---cut here---end--->8--- Other work has prevented me from updating org-bbdb.el yet, but I will get to it as soon as I can. Best, Matt -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: org-bbdb-anniversaries gives error 'bad sexp'
Leo writes: > On 2011-05-16 00:58 +0800, Matt Lundin wrote: >> I'd be happy to take this on. AFAICT, there are three functions in >> org-bbdb that no longer exist in bbdb v3. > > If you want you can build on top of my version. The anniversaries is > still broken since I don't use BBDB-anniv.el. The rest works well for > the past few weeks. Thanks Leo! This is very helpful. I have anniversaries working in my own setup, so between the two sets of modifications, I should be able to provide a full set of fixes. More soon... Best, Matt -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: org-bbdb-anniversaries gives error 'bad sexp'
"Roland Winkler" writes: > On Sun May 15 2011 Matt Lundin wrote: >> I'd be happy to take this on. AFAICT, there are three functions in >> org-bbdb that no longer exist in bbdb v3. >> >> bbdb-name >> bbdb-company >> bbdb-record-getprop >> >> The first two can easily be defaliased to bbdb-search-organization and >> bbdb-search-name. (For a while, we should probably support bbdb v2 and >> v3 simultaneously.) > > Things might be a bit more subtle. The new organization field is > a list, not a single string. Thanks. That's good to know. AFAICT, bbdb-search-organization already accommodates for this fact. That is, if you give it a regexp, it will return all records matching the regexp in the organization field. Since org-bbdb calls bbdb-company with a string as an argument, wouldn't a defalias be sufficient for the time being? >> The other major change that breaks compatibility is the order of the >> parameters in bbdb-split. It has been reversed in the new bbdb: i.e., >> one used to call (bbdb-split string separator), whereas now one must >> call (bbdb-split separator string). Is there a compelling reason to >> change this order in the new bbdb? > > The change is not only with respect to the order of arguments that > could be reverted in BBDB v3. More importantly, I tried to get rid > of hard-coded separators. Most often the separator arg is now the > name of the field that is split. Then the actual separator is looked > up in bbdb-separator-alist. While I do not know yet a good strategy > for the upgrade of org-mode's BBDB interface, I'd find it > unfortunate if such a feature was lost in org-mode to preserve > backward compatibility. Thanks for the explanation. For the time being, I'll add a workaround to accommodate both versions. Best, Matt -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: org-bbdb-anniversaries gives error 'bad sexp'
On Sun May 15 2011 Matt Lundin wrote: > I'd be happy to take this on. AFAICT, there are three functions in > org-bbdb that no longer exist in bbdb v3. > > bbdb-name > bbdb-company > bbdb-record-getprop > > The first two can easily be defaliased to bbdb-search-organization and > bbdb-search-name. (For a while, we should probably support bbdb v2 and > v3 simultaneously.) Things might be a bit more subtle. The new organization field is a list, not a single string. > What is the new name of bbdb-record-getprop (the function that > retrieves the value of a given label in a record)? My best guess > is bbdb-record-note, but I want to confirm this. That's mostly true. bbdb-record-getprop also retrieved the company field. > The other major change that breaks compatibility is the order of the > parameters in bbdb-split. It has been reversed in the new bbdb: i.e., > one used to call (bbdb-split string separator), whereas now one must > call (bbdb-split separator string). Is there a compelling reason to > change this order in the new bbdb? The change is not only with respect to the order of arguments that could be reverted in BBDB v3. More importantly, I tried to get rid of hard-coded separators. Most often the separator arg is now the name of the field that is split. Then the actual separator is looked up in bbdb-separator-alist. While I do not know yet a good strategy for the upgrade of org-mode's BBDB interface, I'd find it unfortunate if such a feature was lost in org-mode to preserve backward compatibility. Roland -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: org-bbdb-anniversaries gives error 'bad sexp'
"Roland Winkler" writes: > On Sat May 14 2011 Johnny wrote: >> I have set up an org-agenda that includes anniversaries in the agenda >> view from the bbdb database, but this breaks with bbdb 3.02 giving the >> error 'bad sexp'. >> >> I set up the agenda file using (from org-mode 6.33x info section 10.3.1): >> >> * Anniversaries >> :PROPERTIES: >> :CATEGORY: Anniv >> :END >> %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) >> >> Any ideas? > > I need to say that I do not know how org-mode interfaces with BBDB. > I am CC'ing this email also to emacs-orgm...@gnu.org. > > If org-mode is set up to work with BBDB v2.x, (most likely) this > does not work with BBDB v3. Defining aliases for the old BBDB > functions in terms of the new ones would work only in a few cases. > Of course, this depends first of all on how org-mode is supposed to > work with BBDB. I'd be happy to take this on. AFAICT, there are three functions in org-bbdb that no longer exist in bbdb v3. bbdb-name bbdb-company bbdb-record-getprop The first two can easily be defaliased to bbdb-search-organization and bbdb-search-name. (For a while, we should probably support bbdb v2 and v3 simultaneously.) What is the new name of bbdb-record-getprop (the function that retrieves the value of a given label in a record)? My best guess is bbdb-record-note, but I want to confirm this. The other major change that breaks compatibility is the order of the parameters in bbdb-split. It has been reversed in the new bbdb: i.e., one used to call (bbdb-split string separator), whereas now one must call (bbdb-split separator string). Is there a compelling reason to change this order in the new bbdb? Best, Matt -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: org-bbdb-anniversaries gives error 'bad sexp'
On Sun May 15 2011 Roland Winkler wrote: > It would probably be good if the needs of org-mode could be > incorporated into the new BBDB before we declare that BBDB v3 has > reached a beta stage.) I forgot to say: It is an item on the todo list for BBDB v3 to provide a more complete list for how things have changed from BBDB v2 to v3. Roland -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: org-bbdb-anniversaries gives error 'bad sexp'
On Sat May 14 2011 Johnny wrote: > I have set up an org-agenda that includes anniversaries in the agenda > view from the bbdb database, but this breaks with bbdb 3.02 giving the > error 'bad sexp'. > > I set up the agenda file using (from org-mode 6.33x info section 10.3.1): > > * Anniversaries > :PROPERTIES: > :CATEGORY: Anniv > :END > %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) > > Any ideas? I need to say that I do not know how org-mode interfaces with BBDB. I am CC'ing this email also to emacs-orgm...@gnu.org. If org-mode is set up to work with BBDB v2.x, (most likely) this does not work with BBDB v3. Defining aliases for the old BBDB functions in terms of the new ones would work only in a few cases. Of course, this depends first of all on how org-mode is supposed to work with BBDB. Yet we are trying to make the new BBDB part of GNU Emacs. So it would be great if org-mode could be updated to provide (also) an interface for the new BBDB. While I'd like to declare soon that BBDB v3 has reached a beta stage, it was probably good if someone familiar with org-mode's interface to BBDB could take a look into this so that we could try to make sure that the new BBDB can work with org-mode as smoothly as possible. (Various add-ons for BBDB v2 had to go through some pain to work as intended by advicing BBDB functions and things like that. With BBDB v3 I tried to clean up and simplify these things; and various add-ons for BBDB v2 are already incorporated into v3 in one or the other way. It would probably be good if the needs of org-mode could be incorporated into the new BBDB before we declare that BBDB v3 has reached a beta stage.) Roland -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
org-bbdb-anniversaries gives error 'bad sexp'
I just went back to bbdb 3.02 after having lingered with bbdb 2.35 for a while. I have set up an org-agenda that includes anniversaries in the agenda view from the bbdb database, but this breaks with bbdb 3.02 giving the error 'bad sexp'. I set up the agenda file using (from org-mode 6.33x info section 10.3.1): * Anniversaries :PROPERTIES: :CATEGORY: Anniv :END %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) Any ideas? Thanks! -- Johnny -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
