RE: notes field edition
On Thu Jan 2 2014 Vincent Belaïche wrote: The problem is some sort of inconsistency. When I did bbdb-create notes was proposed, so it looks like some default field If you customize the new variable bbdb-default-xfield, bbdb-create will use any xfield you like. --- this is all the more true that there is some bbdb-search-notes command. For the records: bbdb-search-notes has been for some time an obsolete alias for bbdb-search-xfields. The latter command does not provide a special treatments of the notes xfield. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
RE: notes field edition
By the way: happy new year 2014 and many thanks for BBDB v3. Vincent. From: vincent@hotmail.fr To: wink...@gnu.org CC: bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: notes field edition Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 14:57:53 +0100 The problem is some sort of inconsistency. When I did bbdb-create notes was proposed, so it looks like some default field --- this is all the more true that there is some bbdb-search-notes command. But then when I do bbdb-insert-field notes was not in the list of fields for completion. Now that I have created some record with notes, this is no longer the case (ie bbdb-insert-field proposes notes for completion, which masks the issue). Vincent. Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 21:52:50 -0600 From: wink...@gnu.org To: vincent@hotmail.fr CC: bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: notes field edition On Fri Dec 27 2013 Vincent Belaïche wrote: From this info node: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/bbdb.html#SEC33 I can read: --- ; (bbdb-edit-notes) A shortcut for editing the notes field. --- but there is no longer any bbdb-edit-notes function. When one create a new record notes is proposed for filling it I believe these things date back to old times when the notes field was the only field of its kind, that is, the user could not define new fields. - Even with BBDB 2 there was nothing special anymore about the notes field. Maybe a user prefers to put such things into a field foo? So I'd like to avoid such hard-coded solutions, this should be customizable. (Isn't this what all BBDB is about?) Now I am thinking about a user variable, which holds a cons pair, kind of similar to bbdb-mua-update-interactive-p. The car is the field to edit when the command is used without a prefix, and the cdr is the field to edit when called with a prefix. And if one of these is `all-fields' the user can enter the field to edit. I guess a similar thing should be done with the commands in bbdb-mua.el, which also contain hard-coded references to the notes field. but when you try to add notes afterwards there is no such field name prompting: neither the `;' shortcut is available, nor the bbdb-insert-field will propose `notes' like a field. The latter is not correct (at least for me): when bbdb-insert-field asks for the field to insert, this offers completion, and it includes all fields known in your BBDB session. So if at least one of your records has a notes field, `notes' is included in the list of completions provided by bbdb-insert-field. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
RE: notes field edition
It seems that for some reason my answers are blocked somewhere in the pipe... Vincent. Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 07:30:32 + Subject: Re: notes field edition From: ba...@cs.nuim.ie To: wink...@gnu.org CC: bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net; vincent@hotmail.fr On 27 Dec 2013 03:49, Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: I am sorry, I can only guess what you are talking about. In which context are you missing a binding of `;' to which command? Is there a solution you want to propose? I'd assume he means that, in pretty much any context in which bbdb is active, ';' should edit the notes field of the relevant entry. Currently this only happens in some contexts, e.g., in a list of messages in gnus (Summary mode defined in 'gnus-sum.el', or Article mode defined in 'gnus-art.el', ; runs the command bbdb-mua-edit-field-sender) but disconcertingly not in the bbdb window proper (BBDB mode, ; is undefined). -- Barak A. Pearlmutter ba...@cs.nuim.ie Hamilton Institute Dept Comp Sci, NUI Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland http://www.bcl.hamilton.ie/~barak/ -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
RE: notes field edition
On Fri Dec 27 2013 Vincent Belaïche wrote: From this info node: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/bbdb.html#SEC33 I can read: --- ; (bbdb-edit-notes) A shortcut for editing the notes field. --- but there is no longer any bbdb-edit-notes function. When one create a new record notes is proposed for filling it I believe these things date back to old times when the notes field was the only field of its kind, that is, the user could not define new fields. - Even with BBDB 2 there was nothing special anymore about the notes field. Maybe a user prefers to put such things into a field foo? So I'd like to avoid such hard-coded solutions, this should be customizable. (Isn't this what all BBDB is about?) Now I am thinking about a user variable, which holds a cons pair, kind of similar to bbdb-mua-update-interactive-p. The car is the field to edit when the command is used without a prefix, and the cdr is the field to edit when called with a prefix. And if one of these is `all-fields' the user can enter the field to edit. I guess a similar thing should be done with the commands in bbdb-mua.el, which also contain hard-coded references to the notes field. but when you try to add notes afterwards there is no such field name prompting: neither the `;' shortcut is available, nor the bbdb-insert-field will propose `notes' like a field. The latter is not correct (at least for me): when bbdb-insert-field asks for the field to insert, this offers completion, and it includes all fields known in your BBDB session. So if at least one of your records has a notes field, `notes' is included in the list of completions provided by bbdb-insert-field. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
RE: notes field edition
The context is being in the *BBDB* buffer in BBDB mode. From this info node: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/bbdb.html#SEC33 I can read: --- ; (bbdb-edit-notes) A shortcut for editing the notes field. --- but there is no longer any bbdb-edit-notes function. When one create a new record notes is proposed for filling it, but when you try to add notes afterwards there is no such field name prompting: neither the `;' shortcut is available, nor the bbdb-insert-field will propose `notes' like a field. Maybe there is a misunderstanding by me about what notes are. Vincent Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 07:30:32 + Subject: Re: notes field edition From: ba...@cs.nuim.ie To: wink...@gnu.org CC: bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net; vincent@hotmail.fr On 27 Dec 2013 03:49, Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: I am sorry, I can only guess what you are talking about. In which context are you missing a binding of `;' to which command? Is there a solution you want to propose? I'd assume he means that, in pretty much any context in which bbdb is active, ';' should edit the notes field of the relevant entry. Currently this only happens in some contexts, e.g., in a list of messages in gnus (Summary mode defined in 'gnus-sum.el', or Article mode defined in 'gnus-art.el', ; runs the command bbdb-mua-edit-field-sender) but disconcertingly not in the bbdb window proper (BBDB mode, ; is undefined). -- Barak A. Pearlmutter ba...@cs.nuim.ie Hamilton Institute Dept Comp Sci, NUI Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland http://www.bcl.hamilton.ie/~barak/ -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: notes field edition
On Thu Dec 26 2013 Vincent Belaïche wrote: It seems that the old keybinding `;' does not work any longer, and when using `i' to insert a field, `notes' is not part of the pre-defined fields. I am sorry, I can only guess what you are talking about. In which context are you missing a binding of `;' to which command? Is there a solution you want to propose? -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: notes field edition
On 27 Dec 2013 03:49, Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: I am sorry, I can only guess what you are talking about. In which context are you missing a binding of `;' to which command? Is there a solution you want to propose? I'd assume he means that, in pretty much any context in which bbdb is active, ';' should edit the notes field of the relevant entry. Currently this only happens in some contexts, e.g., in a list of messages in gnus (Summary mode defined in 'gnus-sum.el', or Article mode defined in 'gnus-art.el', ; runs the command bbdb-mua-edit-field-sender) but disconcertingly not in the bbdb window proper (BBDB mode, ; is undefined). -- Barak A. Pearlmutter ba...@cs.nuim.ie Hamilton Institute Dept Comp Sci, NUI Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland http://www.bcl.hamilton.ie/~barak/ -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
