Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06
Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org writes: Can you explain why you want to override your choice for bbdb-message-all-addresses in this function? when I try to edit a field when bbdb-message-all-addresses is t, the record being edited is the first record displayed, not the record of the sender. I gather you think that's wrong, even though it is what you requested. Apparently you want to set bbdb-message-all-addresses to nil, not t. Why did you set it to t? It defaults to nil, so you set it deliberately. -- -- Stephe -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06
* Stephen Leake fgrcura_yr...@fgrcur-yrnxr.bet [2012-07-08 03:49:02 -0400]: Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org writes: Can you explain why you want to override your choice for bbdb-message-all-addresses in this function? when I try to edit a field when bbdb-message-all-addresses is t, the record being edited is the first record displayed, not the record of the sender. I gather you think that's wrong, even though it is what you requested. Apparently you want to set bbdb-message-all-addresses to nil, not t. Why did you set it to t? It defaults to nil, so you set it deliberately. I want all the relevant records for a message displayed, but when I hit ;, I want to edit the record of the sender, not the first record displayed. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://openvotingconsortium.org http://dhimmi.com http://thereligionofpeace.com http://think-israel.org Feynman: 'Philosophy of science is as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds' -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06
Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org writes: (snip discussing bbdb-message-all-addresses) I want all the relevant records for a message displayed, I guess when bbdb pops up automatically for a message. but when I hit ;, I want to edit the record of the sender, not the first record displayed. Ok, that makes sense. ; is bound to 'bbdb-mua-edit-field-sender, so it does seem to be doing the wrong thing, by editing a record that is not the sender. However, when I hit ;, it does edit the sender, not the first record in the list. So apparently my code is different from yours. Similarly, when I hit : (bbdb-gnus-display-sender), it shows the correct record. I'm not familiar with git; how do I identify what revision of bbdb source I'm currently using? -- -- Stephe -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06
On Sat Jul 7 2012 Stephen Leake wrote: Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org writes: Could you please explain to me how to do this? Use ad-add-advice on bbdb-mua-edit-field; see the elisp manual for more info. That's one possibility. I mentioned another possibility previously: On Thu Mar 15 2012 Roland Winkler wrote: Actually, I went through quite some effort to break down the code in bbdb-mua.el into low-level stuff that I tried to implement as general and flexibel as possible, and the high-level commands that have rather small pieces of code. bbdb-mua-edit-field with a body of 11 lines is actually the biggest one. Of course, these high-level commands provided in bbdb-mua.el do not take advantage of everything that is implemented on the lower level, in particular if you combine them with all permutations of settings for user variables used by these commands. But hopefully the new setup of the code does make it easier to customize the high-level commands the way you want them to be without a need to fiddle with the trickier low-level functions. --- On Fri Jul 6 2012 Sam Steingold wrote: Your general design decisions broke well-documented behavior that has been around since v 1.50. Are you sure these decisions were well thought-through? Some time ago you wrote On Fri Dec 30 2011 Sam Steingold wrote: What did you do when you were using BBDB v2? hated it and did nothing about it, hoping that someone will fix it for me one day. I have nothing to add here. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06
* Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2012-07-07 04:44:10 -0500]: On Fri Jul 6 2012 Sam Steingold wrote: Your general design decisions broke well-documented behavior that has been around since v 1.50. Are you sure these decisions were well thought-through? Some time ago you wrote On Fri Dec 30 2011 Sam Steingold wrote: What did you do when you were using BBDB v2? hated it and did nothing about it, hoping that someone will fix it for me one day. I have nothing to add here. you fixed some things and broke others. this is not good. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://iris.org.il http://ffii.org http://think-israel.org http://memri.org http://dhimmi.com Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06
* Stephen Leake fgrcura_yr...@fgrcur-yrnxr.bet [2012-07-07 01:55:24 -0400]: Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org writes: * Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2012-07-06 12:06:27 -0500]: On Fri Jul 6 2012 Sam Steingold wrote: 2012-07-06 Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb-mua.el (bbdb-mua-edit-field): Edit THE record for THE sender, not all the relevant records. I do not want to fix the values of user variables in a hard-coded way. If you do not like a particular value in a particular context, elisp gives you various possibilities to customize things for your personal taste. Could you please explain to me how to do this? Use ad-add-advice on bbdb-mua-edit-field; see the elisp manual for more info. so, there is a user variable bbdb-message-all-addresses, which is now broken, see below. to make it work, I need to use advice. you cannot be serious here. if indeed this is how it is supposed to work these days, then the defcustom code installing the advice should be added. Can you explain why you want to override your choice for bbdb-message-all-addresses in this function? when I try to edit a field when bbdb-message-all-addresses is t, the record being edited is the first record displayed, not the record of the sender. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://thereligionofpeace.com http://jihadwatch.org http://iris.org.il http://think-israel.org Illiterate? Write today, for free help! -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06
2012-06-28 Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb-com.el (bbdb-complete-mail): Use `quit-window' instead of `bury-buffer' to get rid of *Completions*. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://iris.org.il http://openvotingconsortium.org http://truepeace.org http://www.memritv.org http://mideasttruth.com Before telling the Truth, make sure you know it. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06
* Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2012-07-06 12:06:27 -0500]: On Fri Jul 6 2012 Sam Steingold wrote: 2012-07-06 Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb-mua.el (bbdb-mua-edit-field): Edit THE record for THE sender, not all the relevant records. I do not want to fix the values of user variables in a hard-coded way. If you do not like a particular value in a particular context, elisp gives you various possibilities to customize things for your personal taste. Could you please explain to me how to do this? Please, be more considerate of such general design decisions. Your general design decisions broke well-documented behavior that has been around since v 1.50. Are you sure these decisions were well thought-through? -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) X 11.0.11103000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://pmw.org.il http://www.memritv.org http://mideasttruth.com http://dhimmi.com http://honestreporting.com Oh Lord, give me the source code of the Universe and a good debugger! -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06
2012-07-06 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb-com.el (bbdb-complete-mail): Use window-live-p. 2012-07-06 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb-mua.el (bbdb-mua-edit-field): Revert previous change. Do not use hard-coded bindings for user variables. BBDB is available at http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/bbdb/ To check it out, use git clone git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/bbdb.git -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06
Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org writes: * Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2012-07-06 12:06:27 -0500]: On Fri Jul 6 2012 Sam Steingold wrote: 2012-07-06 Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb-mua.el (bbdb-mua-edit-field): Edit THE record for THE sender, not all the relevant records. I do not want to fix the values of user variables in a hard-coded way. If you do not like a particular value in a particular context, elisp gives you various possibilities to customize things for your personal taste. Could you please explain to me how to do this? Use ad-add-advice on bbdb-mua-edit-field; see the elisp manual for more info. Can you explain why you want to override your choice for bbdb-message-all-addresses in this function? Please, be more considerate of such general design decisions. Your general design decisions broke well-documented behavior that has been around since v 1.50. Are you sure these decisions were well thought-through? I have not been using bbdb 3 long, but so far I very much like the redesign. -- -- Stephe -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
