Re: v3: name matched against organization?!
* Sam Steingold f...@tah.bet [2011-12-27 13:27:12 -0500]: When visiting an article from foo b...@baz.com who is not in my db, I am offered to add name foo and address b...@baz.com to the record of First Last - foo, i.e., a person whose _organization_ is foo. I think this is wrong: matching the name foo against organization foo. this is because bbdb-hashtable hashes on organization too and bbdb-message-search does not check that the record bbdb-gethash returns actually has the right field. 1. why does bbdb-hashtable hash on organization? I don't think it should; organization is hardly unique. 2. bbdb-message-search should consider AKA in addition to bbdb-record-name 3. bbdb-message-search should check that (bbdb-gethash mail) actually returns records with matching mail (as opposed to, e.g., organization) and (bbdb-gethash name) actually returns records with matching name or AKA. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) X 11.0.11004000 http://thereligionofpeace.com http://jihadwatch.org http://honestreporting.com http://camera.org http://palestinefacts.org http://www.memritv.org (when (or despair hope) (cerror Accept life as is. Bad attitude.)) -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: v3: name matched against organization?!
On Wed Dec 28 2011 Leo wrote: On 2011-12-28 09:29 +0800, Sam Steingold wrote: (custom-set-variables '(bbdb-auto-notes-rules '((Web (.* www 0)) (X-Web (*\\(^*\\)* www 1)) (X-WWW-Homepage (*\\([^]*\\)* www 1)) (X-Url (*\\([^]*\\)* www 1)) (X-Url-From (*\\([^]*\\)* www 1)) (Organization (.* organization 0)) (Organisation (.* organization 0)) (X-Organisation (.* organization 0)) (X-Organization (.* organization 0) Just a note. This only modifies the notes subfield (as in bbdb-notes-label-list), not the standard organization field. Not quite! Leo, I modified the code following your request: In Sam's setting of bbdb-auto-notes-rules, the line (Organization (.* organization 0)) means that if the message has an Organization header, the value of that header is added to the organization field of the corresponding BBDB record (which, I assume is what Sam wants to do...) On 2011-12-27 09:29 +0800, Sam Steingold wrote: When visiting an article from foo b...@baz.com who is not in my db, I am offered to add name foo and address b...@baz.com to the record of First Last - foo, i.e., a person whose _organization_ is foo. I think this is wrong: matching the name foo against organization foo. ...Yet this does not yet explain Sam's problem: if the message of foo b...@baz.com had a header Organization: Woozle, his setting of bbdb-auto-notes-rules should add Woozle to Foo's BBDB record. Yet it should not operate on an existing record where the organization field had value 'Foo' (unless the value of the name field was 'Foo', too). Right now I am puzzled... In general, multiple records may share the same organization field. Which record is picked then? Roland -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: v3: name matched against organization?!
* Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2011-12-28 03:51:14 -0600]: On 2011-12-27 09:29 +0800, Sam Steingold wrote: When visiting an article from foo b...@baz.com who is not in my db, I am offered to add name foo and address b...@baz.com to the record of First Last - foo, i.e., a person whose _organization_ is foo. I think this is wrong: matching the name foo against organization foo. ...Yet this does not yet explain Sam's problem: if the message of foo b...@baz.com had a header Organization: Woozle, his setting of bbdb-auto-notes-rules should add Woozle to Foo's BBDB record. Yet it should not operate on an existing record where the organization field had value 'Foo' (unless the value of the name field was 'Foo', too). this is not what is happening to me. I see a message in a newsgroup From: foo b...@baz.com I do not have a record with name=foo or mail containing b...@baz.com. However I have a single bbdb record with organization=foo. The message is marked as coming from a known bbdb person and that person is the one with organization=foo. Right now I am puzzled... In general, multiple records may share the same organization field. Which record is picked then? I happen to have just one record with this specific organization. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) X 11.0.11004000 http://camera.org http://mideasttruth.com http://thereligionofpeace.com http://dhimmi.com http://www.PetitionOnline.com/tap12009/ http://truepeace.org Old Age Comes at a Bad Time. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: v3: name matched against organization?!
On 2011-12-28 02:27 +0800, Sam Steingold wrote: When visiting an article from foo b...@baz.com who is not in my db, I am offered to add name foo and address b...@baz.com to the record of First Last - foo, i.e., a person whose _organization_ is foo. I think this is wrong: matching the name foo against organization foo. How did that happen? BBDB does not seem to modify the organization field by default. It sets notes fields only. Leo -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: v3: name matched against organization?!
* Leo fqy@tznvy.pbz [2011-12-28 08:19:01 +0800]: On 2011-12-28 02:27 +0800, Sam Steingold wrote: When visiting an article from foo b...@baz.com who is not in my db, I am offered to add name foo and address b...@baz.com to the record of First Last - foo, i.e., a person whose _organization_ is foo. I think this is wrong: matching the name foo against organization foo. How did that happen? BBDB does not seem to modify the organization field by default. It sets notes fields only. (custom-set-variables '(bbdb-auto-notes-rules '((Web (.* www 0)) (X-Web (*\\(^*\\)* www 1)) (X-WWW-Homepage (*\\([^]*\\)* www 1)) (X-Url (*\\([^]*\\)* www 1)) (X-Url-From (*\\([^]*\\)* www 1)) (Organization (.* organization 0)) (Organisation (.* organization 0)) (X-Organisation (.* organization 0)) (X-Organization (.* organization 0) -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) X 11.0.11004000 http://honestreporting.com http://jihadwatch.org http://palestinefacts.org http://memri.org http://www.PetitionOnline.com/tap12009/ http://camera.org If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done? -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: v3: name matched against organization?!
On 2011-12-28 09:29 +0800, Sam Steingold wrote: (custom-set-variables '(bbdb-auto-notes-rules '((Web (.* www 0)) (X-Web (*\\(^*\\)* www 1)) (X-WWW-Homepage (*\\([^]*\\)* www 1)) (X-Url (*\\([^]*\\)* www 1)) (X-Url-From (*\\([^]*\\)* www 1)) (Organization (.* organization 0)) (Organisation (.* organization 0)) (X-Organisation (.* organization 0)) (X-Organization (.* organization 0) Just a note. This only modifies the notes subfield (as in bbdb-notes-label-list), not the standard organization field. Leo -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: v3: name matched against organization?!
* Leo fqy@tznvy.pbz [2011-12-28 10:56:36 +0800]: On 2011-12-28 09:29 +0800, Sam Steingold wrote: (custom-set-variables '(bbdb-auto-notes-rules '((Web (.* www 0)) (X-Web (*\\(^*\\)* www 1)) (X-WWW-Homepage (*\\([^]*\\)* www 1)) (X-Url (*\\([^]*\\)* www 1)) (X-Url-From (*\\([^]*\\)* www 1)) (Organization (.* organization 0)) (Organisation (.* organization 0)) (X-Organisation (.* organization 0)) (X-Organization (.* organization 0) Just a note. This only modifies the notes subfield (as in bbdb-notes-label-list), not the standard organization field. in v2 is did modify the company field. why the change? -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) X 11.0.11004000 http://ffii.org http://truepeace.org http://memri.org http://iris.org.il http://camera.org http://www.memritv.org Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy until you can find a rock. -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
