Re: bbdb-notice-hook-pending
* Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2014-04-28 20:36:29 -0500]: The more I think about it the more I am convinced that there is no reason bbdb-notice-mail-hook and bbdb-notice-record-hook should treat bbdb-change-hook specially (by suppressing calls of bbdb-change-hook). does this imply that whenever I read a message from a known sender the sender's record's timestamp will be updated? -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.1265 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://americancensorship.org http://memri.org http://ffii.org http://truepeace.org http://dhimmi.com A snake who stung your enemy is not necessarily your friend. -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: bbdb-notice-hook-pending
On Tue Apr 29 2014 Sam Steingold wrote: does this imply that whenever I read a message from a known sender the sender's record's timestamp will be updated? If you have set up one of the notice hooks to modify the record whenever you read a message from a known sender, then yes, this will update the timestamp. I do not see a reason why modifying a record via a notice hook should be treated differently form any other modification of a record. I you do not modify the record via the notice hook, the time stamp will not be touched either. -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: bbdb-notice-hook-pending
On Tue Apr 29 2014 Aric Gregson wrote: What is the setting to shut this off? I continue to have odd errors with the bbdb file and would prefer it not be touched if not necessary. What is your problem? - Here we are talking about situations where a user has customized bbdb-notice-mail-hook and/or bbdb-notice-record-hook. If for you these hooks are bound to nil (their default) the current discussion should be irrelevant for you. More generally, by default BBDB should never modify your bbdb-file when reading mail. If this happens to you nonetheless, this is rather strange. -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: bbdb-notice-hook-pending
Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org writes: What is your problem? - Here we are talking about situations where a user has customized bbdb-notice-mail-hook and/or bbdb-notice-record-hook. If for you these hooks are bound to nil (their default) the current discussion should be irrelevant for you. Perfect. Thanks. More generally, by default BBDB should never modify your bbdb-file when reading mail. I sporadically get errors that certain records are presenting problems and then they will go away. Just thought maybe that preventing writing when not necessary would help. No intention to offend you. The fact is there is so little proper documentation with version 3 that I thought seeking clarification would be appropriate. Apologies. aric -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: bbdb-notice-hook-pending
On Tue Apr 29 2014 Aric Gregson wrote: I sporadically get errors that certain records are presenting problems and then they will go away. Just thought maybe that preventing writing when not necessary would help. Whatever your problem is, it would be best if you could post here a reproducible recipe for it. No intention to offend you. No worries. The fact is there is so little proper documentation with version 3 that I thought seeking clarification would be appropriate. ...unfortunately a known problem -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: bbdb-notice-hook-pending
Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org writes: If you have set up one of the notice hooks to modify the record whenever you read a message from a known sender, then yes, this will update the timestamp. What is the setting to shut this off? I continue to have odd errors with the bbdb file and would prefer it not be touched if not necessary. Thanks, Aric -- ~O /\_, ###-\ |_ (*) / (*) -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
bbdb-notice-hook-pending
On Mon Apr 28 2014 Roland Winkler wrote: For example, it's a left-over from BBDB 2 that inside calls of bbdb-notice-mail-hook and bbdb-notice-record-hook, bbdb-change-hook is not called. I do not know why this was set up that way. It appears random to me. The more I think about it the more I am convinced that there is no reason bbdb-notice-mail-hook and bbdb-notice-record-hook should treat bbdb-change-hook specially (by suppressing calls of bbdb-change-hook). So unless someone posts here a good reason for this, I am going to remove this (i.e., I'll remove the internal variable bbdb-notice-hook-pending which handles this special treatment). If someone really needs something of that kind, a simple and clean way to achieve this is to let-bind bbdb-change-hook to nil inside calls of bbdb-notice--mail-hook and bbdb-notice-record-hook. (This apporach even offers finer control than the current approach as one can temporarily remove individual elements in bbdb-change-hook.) -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/