Re: Fwd: US made earthquake, you may shudder... (from Ferdy)
I second this. Not only can HAARP affect the earth's magnetic field as to cause one earthquake, but can alter the face of Earth so much so that it would be unrecognizable. Of course, at that time, no humans would be left to be able to do so. I have attached some information to this effect. Regards You don't really believe that they tell us the truth about what goes on in installations like this do you ?? Those boys are playing with things we can't even begin to imagine the power of !!! We are two generations along from the H bomb - I would think that a decent earthquake or two would be well within reach!! L Charles = @@@ Stacey Elin Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://zip.to/anaserene @@@ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ EARTH%20CHANGES%20A%20Spiritual%20Appr Description: EARTH%20CHANGES%20A%20Spiritual%20Appr
Re: Prep Questions!
Yeah, this is the kind of info that I need to know as well. Please post replies to the list. Thanks - Ron (in beautiful Nelson County, Va.) - Original Message - From: Robert Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BD Now! Listserve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:32 AM Subject: Prep Questions! Greetings, all. I just finished reviewing the various instructions posted on the list over the past year for spraying 500 and 501, preceded by a mix of 502-507. But I'm a bit confused - none of the instructions agree with one another. For ex., one gent says to spray 500 before sowing - then to wait to spray 501 until bloom. Another says to spray 500 one evening, follwed by 501 the next morning. Which is correct??? Also - I have 502-507 in separate vials, for insertion into a compost heap. But can I make a spray out of these, instead - and, if so, how do I do it? As far as sequence, do I apply the 502-507 mix, followed by the 500 and then the 501, with 508 sprayed last? And where does Horn Clay fit into the mix - between the 500 and 501, or after the 501? HELP Thanks much for you advice - -- Robert Farr (540) 668-7160 Check out http://www.thechileman.com for Hot Sauces, Salsas, Mustards More!
Re: Merla's Road Project Plan--Questions
- Original Message - From: Merla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BD Now [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Deidre Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:03 PM Subject: Merla's Road Project Plan--Questions Hi Merla Have you had a look at the dollar cost of your project yet? - you mention hydroseeding -does the cost of this come out of your grant money - this is an expensive operation and will use up your grant money very fast !! In Australia hydroseeding is only used to stabilise steep embankments and areas that have been bare cut in major roadbuilding projects, our local council (county) roadworks would not be able to afford this. Is this new idea of the allelopathic plants too drastic? Is there anyone who knows about rye, oats, barley and vetch ? I have this beautiful western wooded country road, but it has noxious weeds on it Tell us how bad the weed problem is - what grows where - are they all over or just growing in certain areas - and what is the soil like - is there a problem with low calcium / acid soil. How much ground cover is there in normal growing seasons?? so now we are going to hydroseed cereal rye, oats, barley, vetch mix to possibly dominate the situation and crowd out the weeds, but I don't know anything about these plants. Is this the right thing to do? Will I also get rid of the native grass that's there now? What happens when the cereal plants all get big and go to seed? I can't plow them under because I don't want to disturb the ground and bring up seeds lurking there. Do we cut them and make mulch or do we cut them and compost them with BC or compost tea? The oats and barley will go away, but the rye is supposed to reseed. Will there be enough minerals and microscopic babies in the soil to grow them at all if I use just the energy from the field spray, 500, 501, BC, 508 with a radionic device? Is the energy enough? Should I just sprinkle the rye in the worst places? We have been offered a straw shredding, blowing, mulching machine. How thick do we spread the straw? I can't even find straw that doesn't have chemicals on it because of the certified hay law. We have a custom reclamation mix waiting in the wings for fall--How will we plant this--in the stubble? Should I put more BC or compost tea on to compost the stubble? What is the best timeline for all this? Will we be moving too fast? Should we take a couple of years getting rid of the weeds and then seed the grass and native wildflowers? If I do that, will I get another cost-share grant next year or the year after? Try to keep your approach simple so that you can go forward rather than round in circles Cheers Lloyd Charles
Prep Questions!
At 12:02 PM 4/3/02 -0500, Robert wrote: Greetings, all. I just finished reviewing the various instructions posted on the list over the past year for spraying 500 and 501, preceded by a mix of 502-507. But I'm a bit confused - none of the instructions agree with one another. The value of this forum is the diversity of opinions. Of course, that richness is the source of confusion too, as there are different ideas. To start, you might review the traditional BD practices (eg. Thun's Gardening for Life). The idea is to spray 500/evening on the earth, 501/morning as the crops are maturing. 508 (equisitum) as needed for a fungus remedy. You might call these the earth spray and the cosmic spray. Thun adds BC as another earth prep. For ex., one gent says to spray 500 before sowing - then to wait to spray 501 until bloom. Another says to spray 500 one evening, follwed by 501 the next morning. Which is correct??? Sequential spraying is an idea that seems to have come from Hugh Courtney. The idea is to follow earth and cosmic sprays in sequence. It has a good feel to keep the forces balanced. But there may be exceptions. When you first work up the soil and it has no plant life, you might do just an earth spray. Or when plants need to mature, you might to just a cosmic spray. Depends on what's needed, which is why the observant practioner is so important to the whole process. Also - I have 502-507 in separate vials, for insertion into a compost heap. But can I make a spray out of these, instead - and, if so, how do I do it? Generally, put the compost preps in the pile, without the container. See any of the BD texts for specific instructions. Some suggest that you can get the same effect and be able to re-use the preps if you keep them in a vial. But that's not the traditional practice and it's hard to find the little vials again anyway. The valarian prep at least needs to be sprayed all over the whole pile. Sometimes the compost preps are used to treat seeds as a semi-traditional practice. Others have developed homeopathic versions of these preps and apply them to plants. But this is not the traditional practice and not all accept the new ideas. As far as sequence, do I apply the 502-507 mix, followed by the 500 and then the 501, with 508 sprayed last? 502-507 go into the compost pile, are not sprayed. 500 and 501 are sprayed on the earth or the air over the plants respectively. 508 is traditionally used only when you have a fungus problem. Altho others like to use 508 as part of the cosmic spray. And where does Horn Clay fit into the mix - between the 500 and 501, or after the 501? HELP That's one of the new ideas, used in conjunction with 500/501 to moderate forces. But it's use is not accepted by all. I am somewhat surprised that you did not receive instructions. Usually, whoever supplies the preps includes an instruction sheet. I suggest that you check with the Koepf text http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010114koepf/bda.html == Dave Robison
ATTRA: Organic Potting Mixes for Certified Production
BD-Now, Here's a significant piece in the ATTRA series on organic greenhouse production, of interest to farmers raising vegetables, herbs, and nursery stock; available now in PDF. Steve Diver ---BeginMessage--- New item on the ATTRA web page: Organic Potting Mixes for Certified Production HTML http://www.attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/potmix.html PDF http://www.attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/PDF/potmix.pdf A 20-page PDF Organic Potting Mixes for Certified Production is a revised and expanded publication from ATTRA, written by George Kuepper and Katherine Adam as part of the organic greenhouse series. Farmers and greenhouse growers who raise certified organic transplants and nursery stock for vegetable, herb, and fruit production need to use potting mix ingredients that meet organic standards. Since most commercial potting mixes contain synthetic fertilizers and wetting agents, many of them are allowed. Fortunately, a number of commercial organic potting mixes are available. The Further Resources section contains a list of 12 suppliers that sell either a complete organic potting mix or suitable ingredients. Still, many growers choose to blend their own. Thus, the bulk of this publication addresses suitable substrate media that can be used to to formulate an organically approved potting mix. It also addresses issues relating to NOP rules such as compost and manure; mad cow disease and use of bone meal; as well as health concerns with vermiculite and asbestos, etc. A few helpful resources are listed, as background reading on preparation of horticulturally-sound potting mixes, organic production guidelines for potting mixes, etc. Finally, the Appendix contains Recipes for Growing Media, a compilation of about 35 recipes, gleaned from the organic practitioner literature over a 12-year period, that can be used as a guide to mixing your own. === Appropriate Technology Transfer for Rural Areas (ATTRA) P.O. Box 3657 Fayetteville, AR 72702 800-346-9140 501-442-9842 Fax http://www.attra.ncat.org ATTRA is a project of NCAT - National Center for Appropriate Technology ---End Message---
Re: ATTRA: Organic Potting Mixes for Certified Production
Thanks for pulling this thing together (again), Steve. I haven't seen either version yet (?), but I'm wondering if you discuss the mystery of sourcing 'river sand' or other 'sharp' sands in this piece. (?) thanks -Allan
ADMIN: Re: Fwd: US made earthquake, you may shudder... (fromFerdy)
Friends: Absolutely no attachments to this list!! Thanks -Allan moderator
Re: Prep Questions!
Yeah, this is the kind of info that I need to know as well. Please post replies to the list. Thanks - Ron (in beautiful Nelson County, Va.) All responses on this list should go to the list. The intention of this list is to share our experiences and our point of view. Right or wrong, these experiences and awareness are of value. Anyone who posts a private reply is failing to participate fully in the spirit of this list (participation=health). I'd appreciate if everyone would recognize the inappropriateness of responding privately. New people, I encourage you to be suspicious of information about biodynamics that comes to you directly as a result of your questions without going through the 'peer review' of BD Now! Working Together for the Future, -Allan Balliett moderator, BD Now! PS Thanks for the effort you put into your posted response, Dave!!
Re: To contribute to testing
Can anyone tell me what is going on with the testing or what has happened to Bonnie? Thanks -Allan Balliett Hello bdnow folks, I am in the process of setting up a PayPal account. It will be a day or so before it is activated. I will send another note to you when I know more. It can accept funds from anyone with an email address and a bank account in the US. and also many other countries. BonnieYork
China on sandstorm alert
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/monitoring/media_reports/newsid_1193000/1193266.stm BBC News Online: World: Monitoring: Media reports Tuesday, 27 February, 2001, 20:11 GMT China on sandstorm alert The Gobi Desert is creeping south and China's heartlands are being swept by increasingly regular sandstorms. Worried by this pattern, the Chinese Government has spent a year working towards better long-range forecasts of sandstorms. Chinese TV will broadcast sandstorm forecasts every evening from next month. This is part of a new national campaign to raise public awareness of these environmental catastrophes. The forecasts also serve to help people plan for a couple of days of disruption and air scarcely fit to breathe. Sandstorms have become an increasingly regular feature of life in north China, and beyond. The Chinese media reported 13 sandstorms in the north last spring. Sandstorms spread south But just last week, sand particles from a northern China sandstorm reached as far south as Taiwan, Taipei's CNA news agency reported. China's new monitoring system will trace the earliest signs of sandstorms, thus making it possible to issue earlier warnings and predict the path of the storm. The system will use satellites, radar, sounding balloons and other meteorological technologies to form a real-time network expected to identify the areas sandstorms will sweep over, said Li Huang, deputy director of the China Meteorological Bureau. Probably not long from now, Beijingers will go outside and catch a camel Chinese ecologist Grasslands on the retreat The storms are a result of 20 years of desertification with the northern grasslands in retreat. The Gobi Desert is creeping southwards and the grasslands are being swallowed by sand. An article in the Chinese Academy of Sciences weekly Kexue Shibao last year reported the studies of a senior scientist and China Academy of Sciences Atmospheric Physics Institute researcher Fu Congbin. Desertification Fu said in the eastern region of Inner Mongolia, within the past 10 years, desertification has been enabling the Gobi Desert area to expand at a rate of 2.4% per year. In another article in Kexue Shibao, the decline of the grasslands is described with a poignant lyricism. Once there was fragrant grass everywhere, fresh flowers bloomed, and people riding on camels could see other people riding but could not see their camels. Now it looks as if the land were suffering from a disease of the scalp, with vegetation thinly scattered. Scientists paint a strange future for the Chinese capital if desertification is not tackled. Environmentalists have reported that in recent years the desert has arrived at the northern gateway to Beijing. At present, the nearest the desert comes to Beijing is 18km. Environmental protection experts have said that probably not long from now, Beijingers will go outside and catch a camel. BBC Monitoring, based in Caversham in southern England, selects and translates information from radio, television, press, news agencies and the Internet from 150 countries in more than 70 languages. -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Email.com http://www.email.com/?sr=signup
Re: Prep Questions!
Dave: Thanks much for your answers and suggestions. I did receive instructions - it's just that the instructions differed from the suggestions from the list! I agree with you Robert. I understand your confusion. I don't think that Dave mentioned that you need to get the forces down on your land before you use 500 or 501 or can expect results from 508. You get the forces down by spreading BD Compost. Since you don't have BD Compost, you're going to want to apply BC before you apply 500 (but, of course, some people stir them together.) You can also use a Podolinsky prepared 500 that comtains the compost preps. All these products are avail. from JPI -Allan
Re: Merla's Road Project Plan--Questions
Dear Merla, The hydroseeding sounds good. Really the grains pump carbon into the soil in exchange for nitrogen and can be very beneficial. As for your weeds--I haven't heard of most of these being troublesome. Tansy is a sacred, medicinal plant. Thistle is another good one. They might sometimes be troublesome, I guess. I don't know hawkweed and knapweed. But any plant out of place is a weed by definition. Let me have seeds of the worst weeds you know. Just send me the seeds, 1/4 cup or so. Best, Hugh Lloyd, It's good of you to venture out into this. We have far more money than I can think of things to do...$2200. The Weed Supervisor made a deal with someone in Priest River, another town in this county, who has a hydroseeder and he says they will come and hydroseed this road for free. Lloyd, no one on this road thinks the knapweed, tansy, hawkweed and thistle are a big problem. We have a goodly amount of these plants which grow easily in a brittle environment. Knapweed is 18-24tall, has a central tap root and makes lots and lots of seeds that have at least a 10-year viability in the soil. It has pretty pink/purple flowers that make good honey. It is allelopathic and will take over a pasture. That's why it's on the noxious weed list. Common tansy is tall with a 4 whorl of yellow buttonflowers and a woody root that you have to chop out if you let the plant go for awhile. The flowers are used in flower arranging. They have an acid smell and can be used to repel ants. I think they're poisonous to animals. Hawkweed has yellow and orange flowers and goes through its lifecycle three or four times in a summer getting more and more flowers on the stem with each cycle. It has very shallow roots that entwine with sod and it spreads by seed and by rhyzome each cycle. It's very pretty, but more invasive than even knapweed, but not poisonous. Thistle must be universal. It has a very deep root that can't be pulled after the first year. Few of the native broadleaf plants can compete with these strong invasive plants. They come to overgrazed, dry poor land. Our soil is glacial till--sandy with rocks. The seeds come in on vehicle tires starting at the head of the road and then spread up into the mountains. There is no chance to ever get rid of them, but the ag chemical industry finances the ag department at the universities and they declare a new noxious weed often. It's an unending cycle. The herbicide makes the soil worse and the weeds are perpetuated. If we were proactive about the soil and the environment and came at this problem from that perspective, we could keep them under control, maybe, but we react to the symptoms, not the problem. I love the road the way it is. I would just like to spray the preps and the peppers and mow and weed whack the seedheads every year and call it a day, but the Weed Board, who support the chemical industrial agriculture model, require eradication, whether it's a myth or not. Our roads are sprayed every third year and they think they haven't done their job if they don't spray. They allow individual families to declare their right-of-way NO SPRAY, but we are the first road every to ask for no spray on the whole road. It threatens their paradigm--their whole way of life. This state is heavily behind GWB. Herbicide and chemical fertilizer are part of a whole religio-political system. I wish I could back out of my Weed Committee post and get away from these people. It's anti-life and attracts people with anal personalities...just the opposite of mine. I feel that herbicide is ruining the earth. That's why I signed on to this. The EPA is overrun with former ag chemical lobbyists. We are in deep do-do! They mean to have this country their way, like Mao in China. Right now, I'm dreading the Weed meeting tomorow night. I'm riding a tiger. Steve Driver who is on this list is a Researcher/Writer for ATTRA (Appropriate Technology Transfer for Rural Areas) and has written a handout Principles of Sustainable Weed Management for Croplands and has also a wonderful handout on Biodynamics which explains a lot of things I didn't know. You can see them on pdf files on their website www.attra.ncat.org and order them. Thanks again for the support. Merla . Lloyd Charles wrote: - Original Message - From: Merla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BD Now [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Deidre Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:03 PM Subject: Merla's Road Project Plan--Questions Hi Merla Have you had a look at the dollar cost of your project yet? - you mention hydroseeding -does the cost of this come out of your grant money - this is an expensive operation and will use up your grant money very fast !! In Australia hydroseeding is only used to stabilise steep embankments and areas that have been bare cut in major roadbuilding projects, our local council (county) roadworks would not be able to afford
Re: OFF: Astrological portents
Hugh Below are the significant relationships and therefore dates to watch for. You might need to maximise your screen to get this properly. The asterix dates are the most sensitive ones. In May 26 Saturn and Pluto do their last opposition however Mars sits on Saturn from the 4th till the 8th May so this should kick this tension into gear from then onwards. Once the opposition is over on the 26th we have the Sun and Moon as a New Moon coming into spark it off around the 10th May. This is what happened on Sept 11. The opposition occurred in August and it was the Sun and Moons transits that set things in motion on Sept 11th. This then is the third pass for August and then Novembers Saturn oppose Plutos. The 3rd pass brings the outcome, the finale. So we certainly should expect round 3 to take place This can easily indicate another (final) assult on the Al Qeda, or Iraq, even Bin Ladens death??, seeing as though the Nov. event -round 2 - saw the US hammer Afghanistan and chase them out of there. It can also be a Arab relatiation point possibly. Palestine can be easily seen as the new touchstone of Arab / US conflict. Just watch the US stay away from Israel during May June. The Astro-Carto-Graphy of the Sat opp Plu (May 26) says West Africa, India/Pakistan, Solomen Islands and West coast USA are the hot spots Iraq has the New Moon on the 10th June all over its Republic chart and so could easily be the target then. Interestingly G W Bush has Pluto MC line thru Iraq. JFK had this line going thru Dallas. So ol GW could get his arse kicked if he tries to redo his dads game there. He could easily loose alot of domestic support due to Iraq. The red necks will love him but the rest of the country could easily abandon him over it. His 'axis of evil' statement has already bitten him rather severely. GW has Jupiter on his Sun at present and Uranus is coming to stir it up mid May, so he can easily be overly confident and overly adventurous from now on and thru June. (I appreciate he is not the USA and many other folk make the decisions) All very interesting, we can but wait and see how it unfolds Glen A May 2002 - Natal Chart NZT -12:00 Planet 1Planet 2DateTimeDegree of 1 Degree of 2 Mar Cnj Sat * (X) Tr-Tr May 4 2002 05:56 13°Ge53' D 13°Ge53' D Mar Opp Plu * (X) Tr-Tr May 8 2002 22:07 17°Ge01' D 17°Sg01' R Mar Cnj Nod (X) Tr-Tr May 10 2002 11:48 18°Ge04' D 18°Ge04' R Sat Opp Plu * (X) Tr-Tr May 26 2002 02:19 16°Ge36' D 16°Sg36' R Sat Cnj Nod (X) Tr-Tr Jun 5 2002 00:43 17°Ge53' D 17°Ge53' R Mon Opp Sun (X) Tr-Tr May 26 2002 11:51 05°Sg04' D 05°Ge04' D Sun Cnj Mer (X) Tr-Tr May 27 2002 07:10 05°Ge50' D 05°Ge50' R Mon Cnj Plu (X) Tr-Tr May 27 2002 07:28 16°Sg34' D 16°Sg34' R Mon Opp Sat (X) Tr-Tr May 27 2002 07:48 16°Sg45' D 16°Ge45' D Mon Opp Nod (X) Tr-Tr May 27 2002 09:40 17°Sg50' D 17°Ge50' D Mon Sqr Sun (X) Tr-Tr Jun 3 2002 00:04 12°Pi16' D 12°Ge16' D Mon Sqr Plu (X) Tr-Tr Jun 3 2002 08:21 16°Pi23' D 16°Sg23' R Mon Sqr Sat (X) Tr-Tr Jun 3 2002 10:57 17°Pi40' D 17°Ge40' D Mon Sqr Nod (X) Tr-Tr Jun 3 2002 11:23 17°Pi53' D 17°Ge53' R Ven Cnj Jup (X) Tr-Tr Jun 3 2002 23:11 17°Cn10' D 17°Cn10' D Sat Cnj Nod * (X) Tr-Tr Jun 5 2002 00:43 17°Ge53' D 17°Ge53' R Sun Opp Plu * (X) Tr-Tr Jun 7 2002 04:39 16°Ge16' D 16°Sg16' R Mar Opp Chi (X) Tr-Tr Jun 8 2002 17:25 07°Cn23' D 07°Cp23' R Sun Cnj Nod (X) Tr-Tr Jun 8 2002 20:29 17°Ge52' D 17°Ge52' D Sun Cnj Sat * (X) Tr-Tr Jun 9 2002 11:21 18°Ge27' D 18°Ge27' D Mon Opp Plu * (X) Tr-Tr Jun 10 2002 16:52 16°Ge11' D 16°Sg11' R Mon Cnj Nod (X) Tr-Tr Jun 10 2002 19:59 17°Ge52' D 17°Ge52' D Mon Cnj Sat * (X) Tr-Tr Jun 10 2002 21:25 18°Ge38' D 18°Ge38' D Mon Cnj Sun * (X) Tr-Tr Jun 10 2002 23:45 19°Ge54' D 19°Ge54' D Hugh Lovel wrote: Dear Glen, Would you mind writing further more about the BIG events in June? Best, Hugh Visit our website at: www.unionag.org -- Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books Diagrams See our web site http://get.to/garuda
