Re: Vinegar

2002-06-18 Thread Tony Nelson-Smith




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Subject: Vinegar
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 08:48:09 -0700

The article pointed out an interesting point -- I doubt that glacial acetic
acid qualifies as organic for purposes of certification. 
==
Dave Robison

Dave - I appreciate that you are probably merely pointing out a legalistic 
difficulty, but I guess that acetic acid is acetic acid is acetic acid...
Ironically, any chemist would tell you that, of course, acetic acid is 
organic! Tony N-S.



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vinegar

2002-06-18 Thread Dave Robison

Tiny and Virgina--

Dave - I appreciate that you are probably merely pointing out a legalistic 
difficulty, but I guess that acetic acid is acetic acid is acetic acid...
Ironically, any chemist would tell you that, of course, acetic acid is 
organic!

Yes, I understand that acetic acid is the same. I was responding to the 
quoted article in which the authors described using various strengths and 
also stated that they used organic vinegar, ie) derived from foods. I 
question whether 20% organic vinegar is available -- I can only imagine 
glacial acetic acid would be that strong. But maybe there is a source


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Dave Robison




Fw: [wffr] Vinegar as weed killer

2002-06-18 Thread barrylia



Not entirely coincidental I suppose, but this just showed up 
locally.___Barry 
Lia \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Seattle WA 

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Subject: [wffr] Vinegar as weed killer
USDA research shows vinegar as promising weed killer 
USDA's Agricultural Research Service scientists have evidence that 
vinegar may be a potent inexpensive and environmentally safe weed killer for 
use by farmers. Researcher Jay Radhakrishnan and colleagues in Beltsville, 
MD, found five- and ten-percent concentrations killed weeds during their 
first two weeks of life, with older plants requiring higher concentrations. 
Spot spraying of cornfields with 20 percent vinegar killed 80 to 100 
percent of the weeds without harming the corn. Details: Don Comis 
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Hail

2002-06-18 Thread Merla Barberie

Tuesday, June 18, just before lunch, I stood at the gate to the veggie
garden and thought that I wanted to photograph it because it was the
best garden we have ever had.

At 1:00 PM a dark cloud with wind and lightning came over and we had
mothball size hail for a long time.  I can't say how long because Herb
and I spent the whole time putting seedling flats of basil and other
herbs into the cold frame.

The ground is an inch deep in mothballs of hail.  I walked in the
garden.  There are no leaves on the lettuce bed, but shreds of green in
the path.  Only plants with heavy leafage escaped being completely
destroyed.  We still have elecampagne and valerian, Brussels sprouts,
all irises and poppies that were still in bud.  The beautiful red
nasturtiums are gone.  The squash leaves are shredded.  What a mayhem!

Somehow, I'm smiling.  I just had a wonderful green salad for
lunch--lamb's quarter, red orach, Freckles and salad bowl lettuce,
spinach, sweet cicely, chickweed, green onion, arugula, red mustard with
extra virgin olive oil and red currant vinegar.  It's going to be awhile
before we can have that abundance again.  God let us know that material
things are ephemeral.  That's life.   All the market gardeners are going
to be short of marketable produce if it wasn't under cover.  I'll call
around now and see how much people were affected.

Wow!

Merla





Fw: preps

2002-06-18 Thread kentjamescarson




- Original Message - 
From: kentjamescarson 

To: Paul Keiser 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 2:50 PM
Subject: preps

hi 
folks you can send Heike Marie Eubanks$ 5.00 and she 
will send you the Oregon group' prep making booklet,. most helpful.!I 
asked Hugh Courtny why he didn' t write a book?I guess its in the 
works. It would make things easier rather than trying to find the right article 
in the right book or newsletter. It seemed to me, oregon, was a shining example 
of people working together . They sell preps at a reasonage cost to others 
outside the group. W e all need to be doing that in our own regions ,working 
togetther and getting materials as close to home as possible. The questin you 
asked paul" when do you bury the 500 horns"? around Michealmas(sept. 29 ) was 
what the Oregon group says ,and to dig it up ,as closeto Ascension 
day in May as you can. We've tryed to make 500 here a couple of 
timewith mixed results, that is why I'd like to try and work with 
others. We do have all the prep plants growing here now, and are looking 
into local buffalo if at all possible.Do you suscribe to bd now? I'm 
not sure where all those folks live, someare in Oregon 
,Austrailia,??perhaps someone in that group could prove helpful.. well, back to 
picking that mountain of berrys waiting for me, .. sorry Dylan and I couldn't 
get up to Michigan after visiting Harvey., It was too long of a journey for my 
hermit. I'm sending prep dandelion and yarrow to J.P.I.as well as 
Kimberton .. made our own 507 and hope to receive some preps in trade for the 
plant material. I'd like to go help make them if it were possible. I plan 
to do 504 and b.c. and 500 if possible this fall. we have a young man from 
Belize who has been working with biodynamics there , who has been helping out 
here. It is wonderful to find people to help. let me know if i can be of any 
help :)sharon, K.C.and Dylan