Re: Cover crop/science
Hi Allan, I don't get the Michael Fields newsletter, so I'm not sure how they present themselves there. My experience of MFI has been with Walter Goldstein and several conversations about research afterwards. I thought him to be a scientist trying tofind a way for science to understand what is going on with Biodynamics... this is from their web page: (http://www.michaelfieldsaginst.org/biodynamics.htm): With nature as its teacher, biodynamics offers a new scientific perspective to agricultural production. It recognizes the vital importance of relationships - of nutrient to soil, soil to plant, plant to soil, plant to plant - in a systematic study that seeks balance and integration. Perry - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 6:49 AM Subject: Re: Cover crop Mike,Forgot to mention that Michael Fields Institute is devoted to Biodynamic research.http://www.michaelfieldsaginst.org/http://www.michaelfieldsaginst.org/That's funny. I don't remember seeing any mention of biodynamics in their recent mailings! -Allan
Re: Paramagnetic Rock Dust / Viticulture
Hi! Paul, Are you familiar with the newspaper Acres USA and the books they publish? Over time they have published several good articles on BD Viniculture. Check their web site acresusa.com ask for a free copy and the book catalogue. Gil Port Lincoln, South Australia Paul DeCampo wrote: Hello all, I am looking for a source of paramagnetic rock dust here in Otario, Canada. Any ideas? Also, can anyone recommend any books, web sites or other sources of information which address how biodynamics relates [relate?] to the growing of grapes, particularly for wine production ? Thanks in advance, Paul DeCampo Malivoire Wine Company Beamsville, Ontario
OT: FW: [globalnews] The Power Of Purification
Title: OT: FW: [globalnews] The Power Of Purification DIVINE BIRTH When our sattva nature is purified, when the mirror of understanding is cleansed of the dust of desire, the light of pure consciousness is reflected in it. When all seems lost, light from heaven breaks, enriching our human life more than words can tell. A sudden flash, an inward illumination we have and life is seen fresh and new. When the Divine birth takes place within us, the scales fall from our eyes, the bolts of the prison open. The Lord abides in the heart of every creature and when the veil of that secret sanctuary is withdrawn, we hear the Divine voice, receive the Divine light, act in the Divine power. The embodied human consciousness is uplifted into the unborn eternal. The incarnation of Krishna is not so much the conversion of Godhead into flesh as the taking up of manhood into God. S. RADHAKRISHNAN -- Be the change you want to see in the world. --Gandhi
OT: FW: [globalnews] Ridgeway on Bush War
Title: OT: FW: [globalnews] Ridgeway on Bush War A wonderful article from Jim Ridgeway, but I am not so sure that the war is inevitable because there are so many countries that oppose it. Astrologically, Bush is supposed to get everything he wants early in his term but he is expected to have increasing problems getting his agenda implemented as his term goes on, so I maintain the optimistic view that Bush will not necessarily prevail. The Russians, as Ridgeway points out, could easily veto any UN approval of war against Iraq, and there are other problems for the Bushies as well, as Ridgeway points out. Anyway the point is, meditate, pray, and get active in the antiwar movement. This is the decisive decade for all of us especially baby boomers who are coming into their power as their parents generation retires. Either we will find a way to retire weapons of mass destruction in the next few years, or we may well find ourselves in a global war that we cannot win and which will end human civilization. I take this threat VERY seriously, and I also believe we can overcome the forces of reaction. This is a LONG TERM effort. Plan your life to devote more and more of your time and energy to healing the planet over the next decade. After all the fate of the Earth DOES rest in our hands. Love and Light Curtis The Village Voice Nation Mondo Washington by James Ridgeway I Hear America Sinking Bush Pulls a Grieving Nation Into War September 11 - 17, 2002 Behind the memorial candles and commercial remembrances lies one of the most astute marketing campaigns in American political history. This week, as the nation marks the first anniversary of the 9-11 attacks, the Bush administration will twist voters' outpouring of raw emotion and patriotic fervor into a launching pad for the inevitable invasion of Iraq. In a September 12 speech to the United Nations, President Bush will further showcase his arguments for knocking off Saddam Hussein. Behind the scenes, his advisers have been torquing the arms of European leaders, who rightly have withheld approval. The White House is making a very bold gamble, one that has most of the world scared to death. Last week the U.S. stepped up its air attacks, sending 100 warplanes to bomb Iraq, which has been under intermittent siege since the end of Desert Storm in 1991. The Pentagon has continued to move ships, planes, and troops into the region. As for any congressional debate, it's as much for display as the deliberations of the UN, orchestrated to end in a non-binding resolution backing Bush. Bush can hope war will benefit the economy. But it could also hurt. News early this week that Saudi Arabia would deny U.S. companies access to its prized natural gas fields is only the first sign of what could well turn into an economic energy boycott against the U.S., driving up prices and torpedoing our markets. Time was, America appeared strong enough to command more respect. After World War II, the guiding myths of America had more resonance, the empire more pure clout. Now, suddenly, the whole thing seems to be coming apart, with the facts of our weakness outweighing any attempts at spin. No frenzy of patriotism can hide the cracks in the pillars of our society, at least not for long. Consider some of them: Military: September 11 represents a huge military and intelligence failure, symbolized by news that air traffic controllers knew a second plane had been hijacked and was potentially heading for the World Trade Center well before it crashed into the south tower. But our air defenses were nowhere. The BBC just last week aired an interview with the Northeast Defense Sector air commander saying that there were only four armed fighters patrolling the Atlantic coast of the U.S. that day. To bolster these fighters, the air force diverted other unarmed planes from training missions. Two of them tried to respond, but just couldn't get there in time. This from a Pentagon that has been insisting since the start of the Cold War it could respond to a Soviet attack within minutes. This from a military that won World War II. This from a military whose budget this fiscal year will be around $396.1 billion, a military that claims it can fight at least a two-front war. Our retaliatory assault in Afghanistan was no more successful. In attacking the Taliban, our target was Osama bin Laden and Supreme Leader Mullah Muhammad Omar. Bush said he wanted the Al Qaeda boss dead or alive. Neither man has been captured, although the military continues to push speculation that bin Laden died in its bombing of Tora Bora. And as Debka.com, the site with the inside scoop on Israeli intelligence, reported, the Taliban not only managed an orderly retreat but re-infiltrated Afghanistan to continue a guerrilla war. Last week, they nearly killed the American-sponsored president, Hamid Karzai. As for the intelligence failures leading up to 9-11, Congress has refused to initiate any serious investigation
Re: West Nile
Thanks for this on west nile, Rex. It has the stink of hysteria in order to create big contracts btwn chemical companies and government. More diversions to fill the pockets of poisoners. Peace, Jane Lynn Landes' article Nile Virus - A Manufactured Crisis has a different slant... What to do about West Nile? Don't do anything. It has the smell of a manufactured crisis.
Re: Advice for cold frames
Thanks all for your cold frame suggestions! LL, Jane
FW: [globalnews] Phone Number at White House: Call And Tell ThemNo to War
Title: FW: [globalnews] Phone Number at White House: Call And Tell Them No to War This from Jean Hudons visionaryactivism mailing list. I have not yet dialed the number. . . Curtis ... Sent: September 15, 2002 Subject: Tell the President (imposter) what you think about his war plans Hello Friends ... Here's a way to have your opinion heard on the issue of war with Iraq. Phone the White House at 202-456- between the hours of 9am to 5pm eastern time. A machine will detain you for only a moment and then a pleasant live operator will thank you for saying I oppose (or I approve of) the proposed war against Iraq. The president wants to know. Tell him. Time is running out. Then please forward this e-mail to at least five people right away. -- Be the change you want to see in the world. --Gandhi
Re: Cover crop/science
I thought him to be a scientist trying to find a way for science to understand what is going on with Biodynamics... this is from their web page: (http://www.michaelfieldsaginst.org/biodynamics.htmhttp://www.michaelfieldsaginst.org/biodynamics.htm): Someone bring me up to date. Last I saw of Walter's research, he was trying to 'disprove' the Thun calendar...
MINUTES
Hello everyone! Seems there was nothing there on the previous attachment I sent - still don't know if there was or not, but here it is again. Teresa _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com MM 05September02 t.doc Description: MS-Word document
ADMIN: Re: MINUTES
I already talked to Teresa about this message. It was sent in error. I thought I mention this so that those who are afraid the Waldorf is taking over biodynamics will not read too much into Teresa's notes. -Allan
Can someone meet me at Dulles Airport at 10:02PM on October 3?
I was too late to get the morning flight from Spokane to Dulles on October 3 before they upped the fare $136, so I booked the afternoon flight. Allan is picking up the West Coast people around 4PM only, so I need someone else whose schedule causes her or him to be near Dulles at 10:02 PM the night of October 3 to meet me on Northwest Flight 620. Is there such a person who could take me to the site of the Mid-Atlantic Conference? Please email ASAP as I have a 10:00PM Pacific Standard Time deadline when my reservation becomes final. I really don't want to have to book the morning flight at the increased fare if no one can pick me up. Does anyone know whether it's feasible to take a cab and how much it would cost? Thanks a bunch, Merla
Re: ADMIN: Re: MINUTES
sure had me curious, those notes , ahh what has this to do with biodynamics? :)sharon - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: ADMIN: Re: MINUTES I already talked to Teresa about this message. It was sent in error. I thought I mention this so that those who are afraid the Waldorf is taking over biodynamics will not read too much into Teresa's notes. -Allan
Re: Paramagnetic Rock Dust / Viticulture
Paul DeCampo writes: I am looking for a source of paramagnetic rock dust here in Otario, Canada. Any ideas? Also, can anyone recommend any books, web sites or other sources of information which address how biodynamics relates [relate?] to the growing of grapes, particularly for wine production ? Did you see my recent posts on organic + biodynamic viticulture? They summarize what you're looking for. The following links to BD-Now and Sanet web archives contain pages and pages of web- and print-based resources. Wine from Sky to Earth, biodynamic viticulture 14 September 2002 http://csf.colorado.edu/archive/2002/bdnow/msg04338.html Organic Biodynamic Viticulture resources, Part I 06 September 2002 http://csf.colorado.edu/archive/2002/bdnow/msg04168.html This is the big list... look through this and savor the depth of biodynamic viticulture Re: BD Viticulture Quotes wanted | Organic vineyarding 05 September 2002 http://csf.colorado.edu/archive/2002/bdnow/msg04160.html Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:14:59 -0500 To: Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: USDA-OIG request for information | Organic Grapes Viticulture http://lists.ifas.ufl.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0207L=sanet-mgF=S=P=22691 Now I will add the following notes. From my vantage point, the following 6-7 items compose the core literature of organic + biodynamic viticulture. The Core Literature of Organic + Biodynamic Viticulture, September 2002 snap shot: 1. 6th Int'l Congress on Organic Viticulture IFOAM http://www.soel.de/inhalte/publikationen/s_77.pdf 2. NY Organic Grape and Wine Production Symposium http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/hort/faculty/pool/organicvitwkshp/tabofcontents.html 3. Wine from Sky to Earth book http://csf.colorado.edu/archive/2002/bdnow/msg04338.html 4. IPM Field Handbook for Winegrowing in Napa County http://www.nswg.org/ipmmanual.htm 5. Vineyards in the Watershed: Sustainable Winegrowing in Napa County http://www.nswg.org/book2002.htm 6. Two sites below, focusing on field trails, disease control, biorational products, and plant extracts: a. English papers on Fruit-Viticulture at Geman agriculture website: Staatliche Lehr- und Versuchsanstalt für Wein- und Obstbau Weinsberg http://www.landwirtschaft-mlr.baden-wuerttemberg.de/la/lvwo/Veroeff/publications.htm b. 10th International Conference on Cultivation Technique and Phytopathological Problems in Organic Fruit-Growing and Viticulture February 4th -7th, 2002 at Weinsberg/Germany http://www.landwirtschaft-mlr.baden-wuerttemberg.de/la/lvwo/ecofruvit/start.htm 7. 7th International Congress on Organic Viticulture and Wine | IFOAM 2002 http://www.cog.ca/ifoam2002/owinec.htm The last item -- 7th International Congress on Organic Viticulture and Wine | IFOAM 2002 -- has not been published yet, but you can view the program and speakers. For rock dust, my web article lists Cairn Tech as a source in Ontario. Rock Dusts in Agriculture: Insights on Remineralization and Paramagnetism http://ncatark.uark.edu/~steved/paramagnetic.html Steve Goddard has demonstrated a home composting system based on a tumber, grass clippings, and rock dusts. His web article also lists Global Repair in Toronto as a source. He says the compost looks real good. I like this method as a backyard system that relies on fresh lawn clippings only, combined with rock dusts. It matches the resources of many home gardeners and it is based on an interesting process known to organic agriculture. Backyard Composting by Steve Goddard http://www.london-grove.pa.us/compost.htm Note: This web page will first roll over to an error page. Try it a second time, or play with the web address in your browser. It will load if you try again. In the following web collection, I provide some background ideas and resources on organo-mineral complexes and solubilization processes that occur when rock minerals are mixed with animal manures and composts. The same thing happens in the soil all the time, for example when green manures and fresh organic matter residues are added to the soil a population explosion takes place among micro-organisms; as they break down the organic matter they release organic acids as a byproduct; these organic acids help solubilize minerals that are normally tied up in parent rock material and amended rock mineral fertilizers, thus making the nutrients and minerals available for plant uptake, transport by microbes within the rhizosphere, or to become associated with the clay-humus complex. That is why rock phosphate run through a compost pile has bioavailable P equivalent to singer super phosphate. By mixing rock dusts with compost piles, such as mineralized compost first described by Ehrenfried Pfeiffer, you promote this natural process. Clay-Humus: The Seat of Soil Fertility A Treatise on the Vital Role of Clay-Humus Crumb Structure and Organo-Mineral Complexes in Soils
Re: Cover crop
In a message dated 9/18/02 11:43:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which too, last year both germinated and grew, I'm just not sure if the inoculant lived through the dry spell tho (dang it). Any one have any thoughts on that btw use 500 and bc..sstorch huh? If you are using bd, you do not need to buy inoculants for legumes since they are already in the remedies, that is what I mean...sstorch
Re: Cover crop
In a message dated 9/19/02 12:12:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 11:31 PM 9/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: Mike, You're on the Biodynamic list that Allan asked you to join earlier today via SANET... sstorch is referring to the stuff in the cow horns that Clarence was saying is obfuscation, alchemy, and smoke and mirrors. With all due respect, should you elect to cut off cow horns, stuff them with cow manure and herbs, bury them with the proper alignment of the cosmic forces, dance naked in the moonlight, wait the appropriate number of months, dig up the mixture, sell most for 9.00 a tablespoon to unsuspecting rubes, then mix the remaining tablespoon with umpteen gallons of water and spray the stuff over your acreage then please feel free to do so in lieu of any recognized, replicatable scientific process. who wrote this? you should introduce yourself, stuff yourself in a cowhorn [sans dung] and bury yourself for the winter...sstorch
Re: Cover crop
SStorch wrote. If you are using bd, you do not need to buy inoculants for legumes since they are already in the remedies, that is what I mean...sstorch This is a new one on me. I have never heard this claim before. I know that in Australia the inoculants for legumes do not occur naturally and I would doubt that BD preps would contain them. I'm happy to be wrong but I would like to be reassured that the statement is correct. David C
Re: Cover crop
If you are using bd, you do not need to buy inoculants for legumes since they are already in the remedies, that is what I mean...sstorch Of the many outlandish claims for the BD preps that have issued from your keyboard recently, Steve, this is the most off-base. Inoculants for legumes is probably an area we could all stand to pay more attention to and one that is receiving very little support by industry. (e.g. my seed store used to offer 'pea innoculant' and two different bean innoculants and a soy bean innoculant. Now they simply offer 'garden innoculant' and soy innoculant. I am told that there are at least DOZENS of 'exactly right' innoculants and that generalized innoculants (like those in the 'garden innoculant' are only partially effective.) If you're talking about BD500 being a soil innoculant like good compost tea, well, yes, fer sure. I understand that you have a SFI lab report on BD500. can you share it with us?
Re: Cover crop
- Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:46 PM Subject: Re: Cover crop If you are using bd, you do not need to buy inoculants for legumes since they are already in the remedies, that is what I mean...sstorch Of the many outlandish claims for the BD preps that have issued from your keyboard recently, Steve, this is the most off-base. Inoculants for legumes is probably an area we could all stand to pay more attention to and one that is receiving very little support by industry. (e.g. my seed store used to offer 'pea innoculant' and two different bean innoculants and a soy bean innoculant. Now they simply offer 'garden innoculant' and soy innoculant. I am told that there are at least DOZENS of 'exactly right' innoculants and that generalized innoculants (like those in the 'garden innoculant' are only partially effective.) Allan - You are correct - these bugs are species specific - the innoculant groups available in Australia run at least 33 different types - then there are strains within groups, developed for better survival etc Good innoculation of legumes is the secret to getting maximum atmospheric nitrogen fixation / buildup from these plants - without good nodulation to fix free N from the air all we are doing with legume green manures is recycling organic matter Nitrogen within the soil system. (OK I know there is also the possibility of Nitrogen fixation by azotobacters and other free living critters but now we are talking about a handful of operators who have developed their soil to the highest levels - most of us are many years from that) Used at a heavy rate your seed store garden innoculant is probably OK - its probably a mix of the most likely strains. The right one would be available make these guys order it in!! To me growing our own nitrogen is the first, easiest, and most basic step to take into any form of sustainable agriculture - Aussie farmers did this for decades but have been suckered into the buy nitrogen deal of late. If you're talking about BD500 being a soil innoculant like good compost tea, well, yes, fer sure. Maybe some local nodule forming critters could get into the 500 by accident or as contamination and it would be a good place for them to live but I think thats about the limit of it!! Cheers Lloyd Charles
